Derekman
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November 06, 2014, 04:05:49 PM |
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Have lodged a serious comprehensive claim against them accusing them of all sorts of things and now awaiting a court date. in the mean time i reported them to the UK Insolvency agency who are looking into it. If they take up the case then they will squash everyone associated with them, the Official Receiver can dissolve the company and go after all the current and former directors up to seven years previous, as i understand it.
If i get a judgment for Civil fraud i am going straight next door to the police station and filing a complaint for criminal fraud too. We are not getting any money out of these guys and the only way to deal with them now is as harshly as possible.I will chase this till the entire family pay up or are ruined as several have been directors. Because they have given a false address to companies house they will be struck off from being directors for a long time and that is fraud in its self. Their family accounts could be seized. Of course the next action is to check if they have filed proper VAT returns with Customs and Excise. They make MI5 look like pussy cats! Virtually unlimited powers of seizure entry and arrest.
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Calhil
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November 06, 2014, 05:57:32 PM |
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Just a reminder, alpha technology is a limited company. That means if they already spend all the customer money, they might be required by law to cover only up to 500gbp in case of bankruptcy ;]
They still might have some funds left on their bank accounts or paypal. If you still didnt sue them better hurry up before all the money disappears completely.
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vesperwillow
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November 06, 2014, 06:29:36 PM |
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Here's their WHOIS before that gets changed as well: Domain Name: ALPHA-T.NET Registry Domain ID: Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.meshdigital.com Registrar URL: http://www.domainbox.comUpdated Date: 2013-12-26T00:00:00Z Creation Date: 2013-04-22T00:00:00Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-04-22T00:00:00Z Registrar: WEBFUSION LIMITED Registrar IANA ID: 1515 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.8779770099 Reseller: 123Reg/Webfusion Domain Status: ok Registry Registrant ID: Registrant Name: Mohammed Akram Registrant Organization: Alpha Technology Registrant Street: 66 dickenson road Registrant Street: Manchester Registrant City: Manchester Registrant State/Province: Greater Manchester Registrant Postal Code: M14 5HF Registrant Country: GB Registrant Phone: +44.1618718643 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: Registry Admin ID: Admin Name: Mohammed Akram Admin Organization: Alpha Technology Admin Street: 66 dickenson road Admin Street: Manchester Admin City: Manchester Admin State/Province: Greater Manchester Admin Postal Code: M14 5HF Admin Country: GB Admin Phone: +44.1618718643 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: Registry Tech ID: Tech Name: Mohammed Akram Tech Organization: Alpha Technology Tech Street: 66 dickenson road Tech Street: Manchester Tech City: Manchester Tech State/Province: Greater Manchester Tech Postal Code: M14 5HF Tech Country: GB Tech Phone: +44.1618718643 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: Name Server: brad.ns.cloudflare.com Name Server: coco.ns.cloudflare.com DNSSEC: unsigned URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/ |
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SimonBeCoinin
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November 06, 2014, 06:37:56 PM |
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Have lodged a serious comprehensive claim against them accusing them of all sorts of things and now awaiting a court date. in the mean time i reported them to the UK Insolvency agency who are looking into it. If they take up the case then they will squash everyone associated with them, the Official Receiver can dissolve the company and go after all the current and former directors up to seven years previous, as i understand it.
If i get a judgment for Civil fraud i am going straight next door to the police station and filing a complaint for criminal fraud too. We are not getting any money out of these guys and the only way to deal with them now is as harshly as possible.I will chase this till the entire family pay up or are ruined as several have been directors. Because they have given a false address to companies house they will be struck off from being directors for a long time and that is fraud in its self. Their family accounts could be seized. Of course the next action is to check if they have filed proper VAT returns with Customs and Excise. They make MI5 look like pussy cats! Virtually unlimited powers of seizure entry and arrest.
You can name former directors etc as part of suit. You paid X months ago, they were there then. Likely that tangent goes nowhere, but if it were me I'd be applying pressure everywhere I could anyhow. Last time I was involved in litigation I added the other guy's wife, kid, accountant, everyone. He'd made the mistake of putting them on his payroll and adding them as officers of the company. As soon as my lawyer found that out, they were named as defendants and served. Subpeona someone's wife and kid for a deposition and charge them with criminal conspiracy to commit fraud and that gets their fucking attention PDQ. Suddenly they get all infused with this sudden desire to find common ground. In this case that's dear old dad and the brothers at least. These assholes have been given every opportunity to deliver a product or refund people's money. What happens to them after this is their fault. |
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giboon29
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November 06, 2014, 07:28:03 PM |
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They refund me paypal deposit (never stated I want to cancel my order copy of email from AT :
Hello there,
Whilst you are past the refund period we have refunded you your full deposit as a gesture of goodwill. This refund has been issued to your PayPal.
Best Regards,
Alpha Technology Team
What a muppets
They cancel my order without paying me back rest of money 1256 pounds. You can run but You can.t hide. Law is a law. Some how I will get back money.
Maybe in india You can legaly steal money but not in UK.
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giboon29
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November 06, 2014, 07:38:00 PM |
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Does any one pay with bitcoins? PM please  |
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November 06, 2014, 08:30:54 PM |
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They refund me paypal deposit (never stated I want to cancel my order copy of email from AT :
Hello there,
Whilst you are past the refund period we have refunded you your full deposit as a gesture of goodwill. This refund has been issued to your PayPal.
Best Regards,
Alpha Technology Team
What a muppets
They cancel my order without paying me back rest of money 1256 pounds. You can run but You can.t hide. Law is a law. Some how I will get back money.
Maybe in india You can legaly steal money but not in UK.
When did you receive this refund? |
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phzi
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November 06, 2014, 11:30:40 PM |
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I am very sure that it was cleared up before - paypal clearly stated that they were not holding any funds of Alpha's. That was just another AT lie.
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superduh
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November 06, 2014, 11:53:59 PM |
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I am very sure that it was cleared up before - paypal clearly stated that they were not holding any funds of Alpha's. That was just another AT lie.
please show your sources. paypal wouldnt be able to actually "tell" anyone this. |
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phzi
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November 07, 2014, 02:52:20 AM |
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I am very sure that it was cleared up before - paypal clearly stated that they were not holding any funds of Alpha's. That was just another AT lie.
please show your sources. paypal wouldnt be able to actually "tell" anyone this. You can dig back thru this whole thread for the history of that conversation if you want. From what I recall, it was determined that under no circumstances would paypal have held funds from someone for the period of time alpha claimed. Either way tho, why you would possibly believe AT about having funds held up at paypal, when they have cleared lied continuously, is beyond me, heh... It was a pretty clear point the finger tactic when that coindesk article came out. |
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November 07, 2014, 02:57:27 AM |
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I am very sure that it was cleared up before - paypal clearly stated that they were not holding any funds of Alpha's. That was just another AT lie.
That's what I heard too. Paypal has none of it.  |
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superduh
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November 07, 2014, 07:11:51 AM |
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I am very sure that it was cleared up before - paypal clearly stated that they were not holding any funds of Alpha's. That was just another AT lie.
please show your sources. paypal wouldnt be able to actually "tell" anyone this. You can dig back thru this whole thread for the history of that conversation if you want. From what I recall, it was determined that under no circumstances would paypal have held funds from someone for the period of time alpha claimed. Either way tho, why you would possibly believe AT about having funds held up at paypal, when they have cleared lied continuously, is beyond me, heh... It was a pretty clear point the finger tactic when that coindesk article came out. since they are giving some people paypal refunds it's either coming back from the frozen funds or a bank account that has actual money in it! |
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November 07, 2014, 01:34:44 PM |
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I believe the paypal/frozen story was also corroborated by some users who said that PayPal had marked their account as fradulent and frozen, and was one of the reasons why they weren't immediately reversing matters. The CoinDesk article came after the fact.
Where's all the AT fan folk now?
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jrose120
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November 07, 2014, 04:35:54 PM |
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I can tell you from first hand experience that PayPal has an automated fraud alert system that freezes accounts that were either involved in or connected to some kind of activity that break their terms of service. With that said, I had done business with one of these fraudulent accounts through no fault of my own. PayPal automatically froze my account with a little under $2k USD in it for a total of 6 months. Then they invited me back like nothing ever happened and released my funds. Needless to say I'll never leave a penny in my PayPal account again. PayPal are crooks themselves, but there is a good chance they froze Alpha Sprouts money for some time, if not indefinitely.
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giboon29
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November 07, 2014, 05:25:38 PM |
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They refund me paypal deposit (never stated I want to cancel my order copy of email from AT :
Hello there,
Whilst you are past the refund period we have refunded you your full deposit as a gesture of goodwill. This refund has been issued to your PayPal.
Best Regards,
Alpha Technology Team
What a muppets
They cancel my order without paying me back rest of money 1256 pounds. You can run but You can.t hide. Law is a law. Some how I will get back money.
Maybe in india You can legaly steal money but not in UK.
When did you receive this refund? 3.11.2014 refunded deposit |
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vesperwillow
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November 07, 2014, 05:30:50 PM |
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That's back prior to PayPal freezing their funds.
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cisengineer
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November 07, 2014, 07:04:58 PM |
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Will BitPay help us at all since they were the bitcoin payment processor?
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g6miner
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November 07, 2014, 08:20:04 PM |
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Will BitPay help us at all since they were the bitcoin payment processor?
This is what BitPay says: "As a payment processor, BitPay has no recourse or involvement in the fulfillment of a transaction. For this same reason fully paid invoices require explicit merchant approval to be refunded." and "We have already received several complaints regarding this merchant. Our compliance team has already restricted the account activity and is trying to negotiate resolution of outstanding purchaser compliants with the merchant." They cant help you to get your money back, but if you need proof of payment e.g. for court then they can provide u with the url of your paid invoice. |
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★Bitin.io★ - Instant Exchange
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November 07, 2014, 11:56:50 PM |
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Will BitPay help us at all since they were the bitcoin payment processor?
Who knows, we might get an announcement if they do. |
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jrose120
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November 08, 2014, 05:18:36 AM |
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Since Alpha Sprouts Tech is silent I'm going to look into my magic eight ball for some answers.
It looks cloudy, hard to see, wait I think I see something, here it comes. Ah yes, the answer is "Ask again later".
I guess they are refunding everyone's 30% deposit because they don't plan to ever ship a product. If you paid via BTC you're SOL. The rest of the funds have been seized in one form or another and any refunds being sent are only going out because the funds are essentially frozen unless returned. If they actually built these mining rigs they are going to keep every last one of them for their own mining farm. They will mine with them until they are worthless and only then will they ever leave their possession. Since they kept 70% of everyone's money, excluding those who have gotten full refunds, they ended up with a free mining farm. Leave it to accountants to come up with a crazy SCHEME like this.
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