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521  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: YIFU IS AUCTIONNING? on: October 15, 2013, 06:44:23 PM
I don't know what is going on.  First it said I was unsuccessful.

Now it says my orders were successful.  However, it says the clearing price is 2.21  but I only bid 2.12 (actually I bid 2.199 but they made it 2.12).  

I don't know what this is all means.

you got fucked by yifu. it's a normal thing
522  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 15, 2013, 06:15:08 PM
it's blowing
523  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: the how much btc/fiat have you lost mining thread! end of 2013 edition on: October 15, 2013, 04:58:08 PM
i'm sure people have  some new numbers
524  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 14, 2013, 07:18:19 PM
wonder what will happen with nov offerings. i dont think anything that's been out so far will produce roi
525  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 13, 2013, 12:26:30 AM
i guess we should start seeing results... this week?
526  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Phoenix Technologies - Another ASIC pre-order scam? on: October 11, 2013, 11:15:58 PM
was on reddit- reported as scam - someone actually paid them
527  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 11, 2013, 09:56:34 PM
the next generations will follow as:

server grade 28nm bitcoin miners.   used for data centers.  That phase is already going on behind your backs.

the next phase after that is to go toward ~14nm bitcoin miners for data center usage.

I can tell you this...there are a few people making 28nm data center miners right now.

The only other way to be competitive is create a miner product that is reliable, cheap, easy to scale,  and cost efficient.  Hence bitfury 55nm chip.

Sorry that was not me.  I am referring to about 6 companies going 28nm for data center usage.   14nm will be the generation after that.


6 stealth companies developing their own chips or buying up equipment.
528  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 11, 2013, 07:24:57 PM
the next generations will follow as:

server grade 28nm bitcoin miners.   used for data centers.  That phase is already going on behind your backs.

the next phase after that is to go toward ~14nm bitcoin miners for data center usage.

I can tell you this...there are a few people making 28nm data center miners right now.

The only other way to be competitive is create a miner product that is reliable, cheap, easy to scale,  and cost efficient.  Hence bitfury 55nm chip.
didn't you bring up aladyain what have they been doing? know how much they've sold last month and if they are hashing? they'd have to be otherwise they just lose money
529  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 11, 2013, 05:03:06 PM
Swede you little faggot, are you even trying to contact Sam or did you disappear too?

why use homophobic phrases?
530  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 11, 2013, 03:57:53 PM
/you mean net income?

cause sales and revenue mean the same thing...... just a technicality

No they don't.

Sales would relate to website pre-orders only.
Revenue would be web sales + mining income + whatever else income might be coming in.



Yes, sales figures for the last quarter.  The above figures are revenue not sales.  Sales for August ~$330,000.

what you are trying to tell me is that SALES of hardware was more than the REVENUE earned from sales of hardware and mining?
correct, they are different since most company sell stuff to make money - regardless in the way he explained it it didn't make sense

sales can never be more than revenue. the other way around perhaps
531  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bye bye bitcoin on: October 11, 2013, 03:56:25 PM
i doubt he had any coins to begin with with that kind of attitutde
532  Economy / Auctions / Re: [WTS] 20 AsicMiner Direct Shares. on: October 11, 2013, 03:49:14 PM
are you doing bitfunders new ask price?
533  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: October 11, 2013, 02:51:51 PM
/you mean net income?

cause sales and revenue mean the same thing...... just a technicality
534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: AMD R9 290X? on: October 11, 2013, 01:04:37 AM
i think the thing to do for ALTCOIN mining would be to pick up the old cards being discontinued. or just leave the network as is
535  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 10, 2013, 08:20:47 PM
Jeez,  hold off for at least a few weeks.  Since you've ignored the very reason I stated earlier I don't tink you have people's best interests at hand
536  Economy / Securities / Re: so... anyone want to make a regulated US stock exchange? on: October 10, 2013, 12:49:03 AM
no
537  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Judge Sends Silk Road Suspect to New York on: October 09, 2013, 09:21:23 PM
it's really a fine line they are walking and such a gray area since not everything sold was illegal in all jurisdictions. everytime i read such statements it makes me confused. makes it seem like there are no countries anymore and just states of the US.
538  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Yifu so there is no deals for Batch 3 customers? on: October 09, 2013, 05:27:35 PM
Well it was a serious question.

At least ASICMiner gave previous buyers coupons.  So far there IS no special deal for previous Avalon customers.

The original price of B3 was based on a month-long ROI, and then was delivered months late thus only partial ROI can be achieved.

Yifu should run his calculator and see what scenario at least would allow B3 owners to be close to "break even" and then offer that deal.

Maybe a 60Ghash mini unit for 3BTC?  Anything helps!

Look I know Yifu reads these forums, and he has performed his magic before who knows maybe rectifying some wrongs will bring back the chi balance he needs   Wink

correct, yifu should be thinking of ways to compensate his old customers who are pissed off instead of trying to price out more of his units. douche move
539  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER Speculation Thread on: October 09, 2013, 04:24:31 PM
If no one is making any profit, how will anything get developed and brought to market? You are predicting the end of bitcoin mining, which I feel is unlikely. Folks will always find improved designs, improved processes, and will continue to profit for the foreseeable future.

500 TH is about to be up for sale in the short term, which will increase the dividends significantly for at least 8 weeks.

OK, I think I can open a course in this thread. Tuition can be sent to the following address: 15oEsWK3UjtnkrhvgKeDGTQuqdprMkfXya ,minimum 1BTC. I'm serious because this will save you a lot of BTC.

You guys should learn how the world works. You should learn physics before learning investing.
There is no such thing as making money. Making NO money or losing money is a common thing. Making money is a miracle. When someone is making money, that means others are losing money. In an ideal equilibrium world, no one is making any money and the world works just fine. You get the illusion that Y company is make X% profit simple because you are living in a fiat world. Fiat money is a inflation money. The total amount of money(the flow of money to be specific) increases each year, that's where the profit comes from. While BTC is a deflation money, making money is even harder in BTC world. The mining companies such as ASICMiner make a lot of "money" is a strange and rare phenomenon. This is possible simple because we are in the early stage of BTC development, lots of resources go to the money makers. But this will not last very long. It's going to end very soon. The dividend of ASICMiner will be very limited if it will not vanish at all.



there is also an "equilibrium" to how much share of the network a company would have. it would require "collusion" maybe not so much a secret one but one that kind of makes sense on it's own. this is an "arms" raise and there is no point in making chips/asics on an exponential basis. if they all agree to a certain market share it makes more sense then building out asics nonstop. that's the only way to win here as opposed to constantly deploying/selling
540  Economy / Speculation / Re: price about to go UP - reason all the overpriced asics on: October 09, 2013, 04:14:11 PM
Price is about to go down, due to bitfunder issue.

are you kidding me? bitfunder has very little to do with bitcoin prices and more to do with company (mostly mining) valuations.
i doubt if people sold shares for cheap on bitfunder that has any correlation with them "cashing out" of bitcoins

most of the time people sell for cheap is because they think the next person will sell for even less and they can buy more.

anyways, price has actually went up since yesterday.

edit: btct closed down and had 0 effect on price and it was much bigger volume than bitfunder
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