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981  Economy / Securities / Re: Is the 'Price' of ASICMINER shares rigged? on: August 08, 2013, 06:52:14 AM
interesting discussion.

swede- given the fact that you are the public face of a competitor and given your mild discussion so far I would recommend you scale back on this thread. competitors discussing each others valuations is bad form Wink
982  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013 on: August 08, 2013, 05:03:32 AM
the 200 million investment.. it exists!
983  Economy / Securities / Re: The SEC IS Investigating Bitcoin Securities Exchanges on: August 07, 2013, 10:47:45 PM
OP should be investigated to see if he is spreading rumors and lies in order to manipulate the market (it's illegal)
984  Economy / Securities / Re: Why are all the stocks going down? on: August 07, 2013, 10:33:22 PM
have you heard of the speculation forum?
985  Economy / Securities / Re: The SEC IS Investigating Bitcoin Securities Exchanges on: August 07, 2013, 08:21:57 PM
Even if he is a troll, it would be nice to a get a clear answer on:

- What could push the SEC to close the exchanges
- What can the exchanges do to conform to the regulations
- What happens if the SEC comes down on them, do we lose our bitcoins?

United State of the World?
SEC has jurisdiction in the US.
What has become of this world? why are people unable to understand that there are different rules, gov agencies, policies, procedures around the world
986  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Alydian Announces 5/10TH Systems w/ 65nm Chip on: August 07, 2013, 06:17:58 PM
confusing press release.
confusing "incubator" that offers no money or mentoring.
i should start such an incubator
987  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: August 07, 2013, 04:49:08 PM
wondering if Dave is supplying Coinlab's mining farm or if that's under an NDA
988  Economy / Securities / Re: [Smidge.Com A] - IPO on Bitfunder on: August 07, 2013, 03:26:43 PM
Btw, "beating the market" is just a sales pitch word used by everyone. If it were that simple than everyone would be beating the market.
989  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: August 07, 2013, 02:35:27 AM
given the changing landscape in the asic field - are you considering adjusting prices for october delivery? boards or full units etc

looks like prices go up, thats been the trend with every other company so far it seems : show your prototype, demand rises, price rises

I know that the second these begin shipping I would be locking in on any boards left - until then its as big a gamble as BFL

the biggest gamble at the moment is October delivery. why? because that's when avalon chips should be assembled, KnCs should be out, hashfast?, coineterra, labcoin, btcgarden, activemining, asicminer products who knows what else all hitting around that time. Q4 is completely unpredictable and guessing ROI is just impossible. it will not hit 100% ROI for most RETAIL customers. should be interesting though
990  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] IceDrill.ASIC IPO (500 Thash Mining Operation powered by HashFast) on: August 07, 2013, 01:28:48 AM
People better get in fast because these shares are a bargain compared to the other mining companies. We are going to see another IPO mania (like Labcoin and BTCGARDEN) as people sell off their other mining shares to get in on the action.

Everything is already selling off on btct

noone says people are rational. most of the "newbies" will wind up losing their money one way or another
991  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] IceDrill.ASIC IPO (500 Thash Mining Operation powered by HashFast) on: August 07, 2013, 01:05:48 AM
People better get in fast because these shares are a bargain compared to the other mining companies. We are going to see another IPO mania (like Labcoin and BTCGARDEN) as people sell off their other mining shares to get in on the action.

at 7 million USD compared to 1.5 million for Labcoin- this is a bargain how?
992  Economy / Auctions / Re: Auctioning 1 BFL ASIC Single IN HAND. 60 GH/s on: August 07, 2013, 01:04:23 AM
i dont want to trash your thread but there are avalons for sale at 80 BTC ...

Twice the size, worse watt/GB and less over locking potential. I'm sure he will get 80 BTC since they sell for 10k+ on eBay and a lot of people here just turn around and sell them there for a quick 25%

they go for 10k on ebay i assume since people on there don't know any better
993  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] IceDrill.ASIC IPO (500 Thash Mining Operation powered by HashFast) on: August 07, 2013, 12:53:41 AM
also, how much if ANY coins are the "shareholders/owners" putting up of their own money. or are they saying that their work/expertise is worth 40% management fee?

Yea need an answer on this one Smiley

see.. i think companies developing/running asics are worth more "management fees" as more difficult work is required (making the asics).
40% ownership if nothing is put up on their part (besides ordering and setting the facility up) is quite a big cut
994  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-08-06 - CNS - Shavers bitcoin Ponzi scheme cannot dodge securities fraud on: August 07, 2013, 12:51:33 AM
what a freaking douchebag that guy is. hopefully they set a good example out of him. scammers are BAD people and should not be around the general population (or have internet access)
995  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: August 07, 2013, 12:44:06 AM
given the changing landscape in the asic field - are you considering adjusting prices for october delivery? boards or full units etc
996  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] IceDrill.ASIC IPO (500 Thash Mining Operation powered by HashFast) on: August 07, 2013, 12:37:17 AM
also, how much if ANY coins are the "shareholders/owners" putting up of their own money. or are they saying that their work/expertise is worth 40% management fee?
997  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] IceDrill.ASIC IPO (500 Thash Mining Operation powered by HashFast) on: August 07, 2013, 12:35:53 AM
buyback clause of 1.2x is risky for investors... they can make a lot of coin (off the INITIAL investment of OTHERS) then just buy all the shares back at a small premium before announcing huge investments that they will only keep to themselves. this should be taken out- the forced buyback clause.
998  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Save $100 (Pay in Bitcoin) Virtual Currencies Conference - NYC -August 14th on: August 06, 2013, 09:20:50 PM
Will livestream or videos be posted?
999  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTCT.CO] [IPO] [FAQ]BTCGARDEN MINER---Eyes to the horizon on: August 06, 2013, 07:34:52 PM
command of chinese language seems more important than anything else at the moment -
1000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] SCRYPT HARD FORK BLOCK ON 256000 on: August 06, 2013, 05:29:31 PM
I'd say the only people really against this right now are ASIC owners. Sucks for them but 'securing the blockchain' is really just fancy speak for trying to hold a monopoly on hashing power and screw the little guy. A BTC fork to scrypt has been discussed for a while now and was even recommended by the guy who made the BTC hashcash algo. There is very good reason to do this unless you WANT the future of BTC to be in the hands of ASICS.

In my opinion one of the major reasons litecoin and the alts have gained so much traction IS the ASIC problem BTC has now.

you guys are quite unintelligent if you guys can't figure out that ASICS for scrypt WILL come out.
if you guys do understand that than you guys are borderline morons.
go enjoy your altcoins (litecoin is more or less fine)

alt coins have gained NO traction they are 99.5% speculation and nothing more than that
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