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321  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: December 09, 2012, 09:57:48 PM
Back on topic

Friedcat, have you guys decided how to go onward with the shareholding side of ASICMINER now that you have received a list from Nefario. Relisting somewhere perhaps?
322  Economy / Securities / Re: NASTY MINING on: December 09, 2012, 02:38:34 PM
I can say that I have already sold some of my NASTY seats and have the BTC safely in my wallet

Nice & smooth without any hassle !

+10000
323  Economy / Securities / Re: NASTY MINING on: December 09, 2012, 01:47:22 PM
I keep getting a warning on the security certificate of the https.... on .bit as well as the I.P. address
324  Economy / Securities / Re: NASTY MINING on: December 09, 2012, 12:50:42 AM
That is some heavy dilution. Who holds those additional 17.000 smtg seats?

I am in control of those seats.  They will not be receiving any donations until ASICs are up and running, so you shouldn't notice any dilution different from what was happening on GLBSE.

Thanks for the explanation! 
325  Economy / Securities / Re: NASTY MINING on: December 09, 2012, 12:36:50 AM
I do have a question about the share structure

I was under the impression that there were 25.000 shares issued, but less than 8.000 were actually sold

On the new website it says that there are 25.000 membership seats and that none are for sale, only existing memership seats can be sold by members. This means that there are now 25.000 shares (seats) sold.

So amy proceeds (donations) are divided by 25.000 instead of 8.000

That is some heavy dilution. Who holds those additional 17.000 smtg seats?

Brat
326  Economy / Securities / Re: NASTY MINING on: December 09, 2012, 12:32:27 AM
Is the 'Bitcoin address used from GLBSE' a withdrawal address used while GLBSE was active, or the recovery address provided to GLBSE after it went down?

I do not know. Only 1 address is on the GLBSE list. Maybe OgNasty knows. But it does not matter. After your account is activated you set the address you want to use.

I entered my recovery address and that worked
327  Economy / Securities / Re: NASTY MINING on: December 08, 2012, 11:23:55 PM
Done... Account Conversion is in progress  Smiley
328  Economy / Securities / Re: NASTY MINING on: December 08, 2012, 11:18:32 PM
I just received an email from nonnakip redirecting me to a website where I need to fill out my bitcoin address that I gave when GLBSE went down and the approximate number of shares I held when GLBSE went down.

Want to check again with OgNasty that he endorses this site https://83.169.18.186/glbse and that the data I provide in there will be safe.

I confirm that is nonnakip's site and I have trusted him with your data already.

Thanks for the quick answer !
329  Economy / Securities / Re: NASTY MINING on: December 08, 2012, 10:58:36 PM
I just received an email from nonnakip redirecting me to a website where I need to fill out my bitcoin address that I gave when GLBSE went down and the approximate number of shares I held when GLBSE went down.

Want to check again with OgNasty that he endorses this site https://83.169.18.186/glbse and that the data I provide in there will be safe.

Also, can I make the assumption that somehow this site will support the transfer of ownership or trading of NASTY shares ?

Thanks,

Brat
330  Economy / Securities / Re: NASTY MINING on: December 08, 2012, 08:18:47 PM
UPDATE:
I've provided forum user nonnakip with the list I received from GLBSE.  I have seen a cool website that I think NASTY MINING enthusiasts will enjoy using.  I'm sure plenty of discussion will follow nonnakip's coming announcement.

Ok I will bite...

Who is nonnakip?  He has next to no posting history, so I cant tell what projects he is or has been involved with
Why did you give him the list of NASTY shareholders, is he linked to NASTY in any way?
Where will nonnakip make his announcement? In this thread?

Brat
331  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin-Central, first exchange licensed to operate as a bank. This is HUGE on: December 06, 2012, 04:56:35 PM
Very quick service, opened an account 10 mins ago, sent my ID and already got verified !

That's the way I like it !
332  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: December 06, 2012, 10:33:03 AM
So why not we have the same level of transparency.

I think Friedcat keeps us well informed.... Avalon is basically stating the same as Friedcat did.... 30-50 days... it seems TSMC is moving a lot quicker with 1.2 Layers a day, but still ASICMINER should be mining well before any Avalon has been sent out, because we had a head start with production.

If the foundry keeps up 4 layers a week from now on, it means ASICMINEr should receive the chips just before Christmas, so we could theoretically (hopefully) have something online before the end of the year....hashing the first ASIC mined block ever
333  Economy / Securities / Re: [NASTY MINING] on: December 06, 2012, 09:47:22 AM
You could poste a pastebin with a hashed version of the list, as you also have all the btc addys

That way people can check whether they are on the list and keeps you from getting emails/pms/whatnots and from checkig it all

I'm not big on posting up private information, hashed or not.  I'm simply confirming whether or not people are on the list right now.

I guess I can wait a few days to see if I receive an email from you or not....
334  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: December 06, 2012, 09:46:02 AM
An update from the Avalon team with some remarks how ASICs are actually produced by TSMC and the likes

They have not much good to say about bASIC and BFL

This update is mainly to address the uncertainty that have been surrounding the ASIC scene recently due to the lackluster performance by our competitors. We will be walking you through our process of getting the ASIC fabricated. Unlike our competitors we are a in-house team and everyone is always on the same page.

Another update will address the actual status of our chips as we have obtained word from TSMC whom will offer us weekly updates on their website. All in all, see our arguments below regarding our competitors and wait for weekly updates directly from TSMC.

Anyhow, any of our numbers, estimates, and shipping date have not changed, just in case somebody got the wrong idea about this update.


First things first. the following Gallery is our contract with TSMC with pricing and other sensitive information removed. http://imgur.com/a/DnUNm


Some background information on ASIC production process, before tape out, 3 day before uploading GDS, we fill out a MT form with TSMC detailing the ASIC specific information so they may understand what we are doing. The gallery is here http://imgur.com/a/YOLez


to put simply, to create the physical ASIC goes something like this.

sign contract -> submit GDS for review -> mask making -> wafer making -> ship to packaging company -> packaging -> shipping.
Only then can the chips be in your hands or placed on PCB for finalization.

This whole process will take 30-50 days depending on the processor node technology used, mainly due to the increasing in layer number as you go down in processor size. for example, we have 29 layers, and since TSMC is one of the big companies in fabrication, each layer take 1.2 ( normal lot ) day per layer. in addition, accordingly to friedcat, their fab is producing 4 layers every week [odd, but I guess it is possible if fab is small].

This also means while you wait for the wafer(chips) fabrication you can not do anything else, it is usually around this time you make sure you have everything else ready.

a few things to note is,

1. while this wafer making process is going, you can't cancel it, or make adjustments, and if you wish to change anything, you will have to re-run this whole work flow all over again ( the large amount of the NRE upwards of 6 digits in USD is paid when you make the MASK). so anytime, BFL mention they are waiting for chips to come e.g. next week, but if they are still making adjustments, then this is physically impossible. In addition, fabrication company don't do chip packaging, if they are expecting the chips to arrive next week that means the production is already finished and they are probably in the chip packaging company (it is usually this time you find out if your chips work or not. which can also take some time since you'll have to test each of the chips for defects.)

2. the whole chip fabrication is very mathematically predictable based on the number of layers your ASIC has and the speed which the fabrication company can produce a layer. There is no such thing as a fabrication company giving a "fuzzy" date when it comes to when the chips will come from the assembly line. The only number that can vary is the shipping time from the fabrication company to the packaging company, but even that is no more than a few days of difference, depending on the shipping method.

3.a if bASIC made an MPW to start (which is the correct way to save money, but not time). the cost to get large amount of chips during this time is astronomical, however the average size is about 50. It is unheard of for somebody to only produce 2 chips to built a prototype and now no longer have any chips left over to build another prototype.

3.b. Even after testing MWP and everything is fine, it'll take the same amount of time to produce a new MASK ( cost and everything ) then make wafers, which will take another 30 - 50 days, which I suppose is consistent with bASIC's new mid-Jan shipping date, ( but this is optimistic estimate, the regular workflow is about 2 month)

3.c. what we think that happened is bASIC has licensed a SHA256 core, the IP company has already produced demo ASICs that utilizes this core, and did some math on how many core you can placed in the chip to obtain the 14GH/s estimated hashrate, while regular SHA256 and Bitcoin's blockchain hashing algorithm is not very different but it is not something you can compare via simulation without making an actual chip, and if they made an actual chip, even if it doesn't perform up to specifications you can still demonstrate it and be world first.

the conclusion is as follows.

1. If BFL really have chips coming, then they are not making any so-to-speak "clock buffer adjustments", either that or they don't have any chips coming and have not tape-out at all, it is also entirely possible that they have not make the MASK yet either. I guess we will find out on the week of the 11th, in this month hopefully.

2. we believe bASIC has no prototype, or have any chips. Also we at Avalon have also explored the possibility of licensing an IP core, but after some in-house comparison, none of the core on the market is superior to our own, thus we eliminated that option.

Questions, Comments are welcome.
335  Economy / Auctions / Re: [FREE] Contest For A Free Gemstone!!! on: December 06, 2012, 12:57:25 AM
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336  Economy / Securities / Re: [NASTY MINING] on: December 06, 2012, 12:23:01 AM
Could you give a chance for your investors to check if holdings match correct number of shares and BTC payment address?

PM me with your GLBSE email address you used (usernames weren't provided on the list) and I can check if you're on the list.  I will take my sweet time doing this.  Keep in mind there are 100+ accounts, so if you owned one share, please don't make me check...


Also what do you mean by "proceed with this list"? Are you going to implement a kind of a system that pays dividends, or are you going to list NASTY in certain exchange?

There will be an announcement in the next few days and you will receive an email with instructions.  


For the portion unaccounted for is that shares the owner didn't want to have information passed to you or legitimate missing/no response from share owner?

This is unknown.  All I received was an unencrypted list with no explanation.

You could poste a pastebin with a hashed version of the list, as you also have all the btc addys

That way people can check whether they are on the list and keeps you from getting emails/pms/whatnots and from checkig it all
337  Economy / Securities / Re: GLBSE is offline We will update our users on Saturday. on: December 05, 2012, 11:57:47 PM
I just received my asset holders list like five minutes ago.

So did NASTYmining, seems Nefario has been busy. Maybe he is snowed in and has got nothing else to do :-)
338  Economy / Securities / Re: [NASTY MINING] on: December 05, 2012, 11:36:56 PM
Very good news... Now we need some ASICs :-)
339  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: December 05, 2012, 11:35:31 PM
Gigavps received an updated list and Nastmining received the 1st version of its list with 98.15% of the shares accounted for

So it seems Nefario has been busy today  Grin
340  Economy / Gambling / Re: Block Chain Roulette -- Multi-player, real time, no-sign up BTC Roulette on: December 05, 2012, 07:49:50 PM
Woohoo I just won on black !

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Let it ride I guess... Oh no that's another game Wink
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