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1541  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How low will BTC go so I can buy more? How to gauge the bottom? on: September 19, 2017, 11:54:17 AM
Judging by the current state of the market, it is becoming hard to call the lower threshold mark although I predict it go down to around $3000. It all depends on traders' personal decisions and opinions to hold or to sell and as always, the panic sellers are the ones to be incurring loss having sold in the dip. Those who believe Bitcoin will rebound back from all the so called 'bubble' accusations are the ones holding onto their coins while those who are being pushed a step back by all the FUDs are the ones panic selling in the current situation.
And the whales who started the huge panic in the first place may decide to see a best point to start buying and before you know, price starts shooting up and you see a lot of people trying to fall in quickly to buy so as to make profits and then the bullish trend until it hits over $5k. That is how I foresee this whole thing will definitely unfold.
You better unfolded it I think whales are playing this game of pumping and dumping. Actually they have to make themselves strong so they make notorious effects in market, people get panic and sell, market is getting more bitcoins back and prices are low. They buy and then raise the price again. Don’t wait just buy now.

1542  Economy / Services / Re: Electroneum Signature Campaign. on: September 18, 2017, 04:52:28 PM
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1543  Economy / Services / Re: ★★ Signature Campaign for Narbonne ★★ Upto : 0.03 btc Per Week on: September 16, 2017, 05:49:06 AM
Hi Sir. I am a good poster, and  i post from different section.So sir.
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1544  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So Bitcoin is better than Gold? on: September 11, 2017, 05:26:16 PM
Bitcoin is far better than gold. Bitcoin has a high value, easy to transfer, easy to carry, secure in wallets with 2 way security. Whereas gold is not much valuable as bitcoin is. And gold needs physical space
You have rightly mentioned all the possible reasons which support your argument that “Bitcoin is better than gold”. I think the most basic reason of placing Bitcoin at a higher place than gold is the increase in the market price so much significantly. Moreover the profit which the investors are getting is far more than if they have invested in gold.
1545  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading sucks, I'll just hold my coins on: September 08, 2017, 04:47:29 PM
Yesterday I just lost 1.8k USD, maybe in USA or in West Europe that's doesn't much, but here in my shitty country that's a f* big amount of money. Here the minimum wage is ~ 300 USD / month. So that's like 6 month of work if I cut my bread and water and live on air. Half of my saving were other investments, but anyways... I'm feeling shitty right now. Oh, and I break my laptop. So yeah, that's another - 500 usd.

I though I can trade. Buy low, sell high. Sounds good, doesn't work.

Looking at the charts and candle sticks and watching old bitcoin values, and huge spikes (pump, I saw here how people uses the pump word, daaaamn...) I was... yeah, I can totally do that. I'll just buy when it's low, and sell it when it reaches the top. Well, I was wrong. You can't see the future, otherwise everyone would be a millionaire. That would be true if you would have a delorean from '85 with Emmett Brown and Marty Mcfly and you could f* travel in future and see the PUMPS!!!1

So anyone who will read this message (noobs like me) if you don't have any trading experience, don't do it. There are expert traders who know how this market works, when to buy and when to sell. Don't assume your skills by watching youtube videos and reading "daily indexes and predictions" of how the price will rise or go down by shitty sites. That's just dumb. You don't know what's gonna happen. Maybe a little bit of luck, or I don't know.

So yeah, from now on, I'll just leave the trading area for experts and I will invest in bitcoin by buying every 2 week or monthly and saving into my wallet. And one day (I hope so) the price will rise and I will buy for my self a delorean.

Cheers!
Yeah. If you're looking for dump and pump in trading, for me, it will be better to stick with sports betting. Sorry to hear that. Cheers!
Trading is not easy mate, the definition is a simple buy at low and sells at high. But what to buy and where to buy and how to buy and which time we need to buy and where to sell what time we need to sell and when the market is going up and when it will come down. Like this too many questions will occur. You know answers to all these questions you can start trading or else stick with just Bitcoin investment.
I utterly agree with you. Trading is not a piece of cake at all. We need to really be very keen and patient at the same time to learn every bit about trading only then we can sue trading to make decent profits otherwise it is best to keep holding your coins especially if they are bitcoins for long time to have some profit.
1546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: September 06, 2017, 07:36:25 PM
Clever gambler does it, plays with profit. While gamblers are greedy or with goal of having fun or has alot money, they will continue to play until felt satisfied. Though sometimes it ends in a bad lose, but that's gambler.
In my opinions playing with your profits is not an option at all. This is really a foolish act. The other way round is to get out of the house with the earned profits in your pockets so that you can have some fun with that. It must be used for needs or saved up besides for the next days.
1547  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Wallet without transaction fee on: September 05, 2017, 06:53:26 AM
Hi,

Can anyone suggest me best Bitcoin Wallet without transaction fee

Thanks
That’s just one of the impossible things in bitcoin transactions, there is no way you are going to make any transaction without paying transaction fee, that’s just not possible, because the miners don’t work for free, they work to earn their money
True, how can online wallet earn if they won't put any transaction fees. I think everything transacted online always has a transaction fees. it's how they earn.
You are right. If we want to avail a real service on internet, we must be willing to pay its dues also. We can't imagine anyone doing a task for us without charging for his labor. If I put myself at their place, I would do the same. This method exists from the time immemorial. This is how things work in this world.
1548  Economy / Economics / Re: Some things to consider before starting a business on: September 01, 2017, 01:22:54 PM
I think that trade is a job that requires a lot of factors, and it is tied to all the changes in the money market. For bitcoin and all altcoins, the value is always changing, we need to learn how to capture the moment accurately. In addition, we also need assertiveness to make timely decisions. Lastly, what you must have in order to be able to trade.
You are absolutely right. Doing Business is an art and not everyone is an artist. You need to have a very clear mind regarding what to do. Only then you can excel in your life. Before starting of any kind of Business, you need to learn and learn well about that. Only then you can succeed.


1549  Economy / Economics / Re: Tokens Vs. Equity on: September 01, 2017, 01:15:02 PM
The startups who are creating market places where they use their token for services, could in fact replace the means of investing in equity? The reason, while the business increases their customer base and profits, the token also increases in value. And with the token, you can liquidate anytime, unlike equity. The only value equity has now would be ownership. Unless you have a buyer who wants control of the company, I see it difficult to actually sell equity when the token is there. Let me know your thoughts. Cheers.

I agree with this line of reasoning when it comes to transfer of equity in the business but a deeper look also will mean equity could also be sold because the highest number of tokens represent the one who owns the control which is equity as well. So, if tokens are readily converted, so also my equity because if I want out, all I need to do is to sell all the tokens allocated to me and that's all l, while I still retain my job as probably COO or manager, I already lost ownership.
I will for sure second you. Tokens and equity are something proportional to each other. If someone owns the Tokens, he owns equity. But if he sells them out, he does not own equity any more.
1550  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: August 31, 2017, 05:59:02 PM
why so many people store their bitcoin in their wallet for a long time, whether the benefits will they get?

Come share your thoughts


Knowing that the bitcoins value have a high possibility to grow their price like what they always did. People, including me, are holding our bitcoins through our wallet hoping to gain more money through that investment. We are more persuade because of the teen who became a millionaire because of holding his bitcoins for a long time. Bitcoins value is way too different from before they are very expensive and very hard to get because it is the best ways of investment.
Yes that’s the benefits that people get from saving their Bitcoin for a longtime. But it will take you years to see the profits, so it depends on how much patience you can have. If you will be able to save the money you’re making from Bitcoin, leaving for some years and forgetting about it, there is no doubt you will make bigger profits as soon as price goes up.
But for me you do not need to wait for too long to make profit from your savings you can do trading to increase your income, if you just want to save i think much better to save huge amount of money to see the great income of your savings.
Yes you are right savings only produce good profits when they are huge in number. With small capital, you can’t expect grand returns. Trading is a professional job where definitely you can make more capital than just saving your bitcoins. Holding bitcoins needs a lot of time to make you go out of world.
1551  Economy / Economics / Re: When will more retailers accept Bitcoin on: August 30, 2017, 11:37:13 AM
I think that sellers are afraid to take bitcoin because of its not too stable price and many will not so risk not to stay at a loss. It will be like a lottery and will be sold only by very rich sellers or those who are not afraid of losing money.

Thats true, I am thinking the same way since the price of bitcoin are really volatile and retailers and afraid of loosing money and since not all people use bitcoin it will be hard for them to convert their btc. but i hope that a lot of shops around the world will finally adopt the system of bitcoin.
Yeah! One day every business will be accepting bitcoins. Right now basically people are not well aware of bitcoins. Even those who know about bitcoins are quite reluctant to use them; maybe they are afraid of getting scammed. Some even find it hard to operate bitcoins and wallets. The good thing is that already few online shopping sites have started accepting bitcoins. In short, one day whole world will be using bitcoins.
1552  Economy / Economics / Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022? on: August 27, 2017, 06:24:26 PM
It is said that bitcoin will destroy the fiat system but i believe that if this happens the world will change completly because banks and a lot of things will go out of market.

I don't believe on what you have said. Governments cannot just let the fiat system get rid easily. If that happens, it will cause a big uproar. Implementing new systems will be difficult. So I think there will be two systems at the same time: the system for currency and the system for digital currency. Bitcoin depends on the demands. So it depends if almost everyone know bitcoin.
It can havr more users by 2022 , many will get interested on it especially now that ICO advertising were almost seen the most used apps and websites. By then it can get more users. Now many counyries implementing it ,soon there are more additional.
There is nothing wrong in predicting that bitcoins will have so many users by 2020. With every passing minute, the number of users is increasing and by 2020 bitcoins will be among most used currencies. Bitcoins are already famous worldwide, so they won’t face serious hurdles to be known by maximum people in 2020
Bitcoin can be used by everyone in the world but this is still not that much easy. Because there will always be the persons that will always oppose bitcoin. And will always try to stop bitcoin from progressing. I must tell you that still people hate bitcoin even with the fact that bitcoin is very positive thing that can help people worldwide with so many good features. But also that is always my effort that peoples like it because the famously of bitcoin is depend on us.
1553  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin go to 5000$ after SegWit activation? on: August 27, 2017, 06:10:05 PM
Segwit activated today so what will happen to bitcoin price now? what u think will it goes to 5000$ very soon or just walk around 4000$ for more than a month? most people want it to be around 4K so they can buy cheap bitcoin.
The bitcoin is now heading for $5000 in this year. I know that the bitcoin will become more profitable. I wish that I have many bitcoins today for me to able to become rich.
But I am sure that day will become very soon that you have a lot of bitcoin because I know you trust the bitcoin and who's are believed in bitcoin they have earn a lot of bitcoin and but, it require struggle, yeah hard struggle without working this is impossible to have a lot of bitcoin, and more you are also talking about the bitcoin price it goes to hit 5000$ without any doubt in the year.
1554  Economy / Speculation / Re: should i buy or sell today on: August 27, 2017, 03:10:53 PM
Take this oppotunity to buy and to add some in your portfolio.
Many are awaiting for this chance to happen to buy in low and sell when its high.
So now, buy and hold your coins because when the dips happen soon it will be on its peak.
Be used to this dumps and trust bitcoin.
Alright you got me sir, I think your right it's time to buy and save bitcoin now in our wallet. Because we feels that bitcoin price was increase this coming month, also bitcoin now in the market had a good movement and it seems that crytocurrencies had a bright future. 

Buy more and more as still its affordable to buy bitcoins but it will become really hard as time will pass by and when price will go much higher it will be difficult to buy bitcoins even in a small installments so buy it now and save it for future as it can be your license to become rich in future when price will reach to the moon.
Yes you are right that time will be come very soon that it will be very difficult to buy bitcoin and no one can afford the bitcoin to buy bitcoin very easily because the bitcoin price will be very high so yes, this way we need to buy bitcoin now more and more save it for till when its price will goes to touch the moon so I hope those peoples save bitcoin they will get to it big profit.
1555  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 26, 2017, 09:03:03 PM
There isn’t any best way for steady income you should only find a method that works well for you, you shouldn’t only depend on one source of income, you should diversify your portfolio and with that I am sure you won’t regret your decision
Split your money to different source would be a good idea to do since you can manage your money better than put on one place. It's true to have multiple source could make you get the stable income yet it takes time to manage and then how to take and avoid the risk.
It is right that avoiding risks is very important and to work on your opinion one should be good at management. I also think the same thing that if you want good earning then you should divide your money or bitcoin whatever you have. And use them in different ways. It will give earning and will also keep the balance. So best way is to use your wealth in different ways.
1556  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I want to buy bitcoins on: August 25, 2017, 07:42:08 PM
buy a bitcoin for now then stock it in many year then you will got a big profit

Absolutely right, I am suppose to buy bitcoin last week but for other instances, i did not make it. As soon as i get my first payment from signature campaign, i will buy bitcoin to have a big profit.
well that is a great Idea, I think these days are pretty good for buying because right now prices are so low, I mean $4500 is nothing in front of bitcoin, you will see nearly $10000 the price of bitcoin in future and then you will realize my words, so buy as many as you can and best of luck, try not to be greedy, stay smart and think with knowledge not with emotions then you will get huge profit.
1557  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: August 25, 2017, 07:31:14 PM
Grow your bitcoins by joining some signature campaigns. Its an easy task and good way to make more profit on btc but you need to rank higher so that is what I'm trying to do.
yeah you are right signature campaign are the good way of earning bitcoin, the only thing these signature campaigns need is our time and little bit typing effort and in reward they would give us pretty much amount of bitcoin. Well best of luck for you, I hope soon you will rank up here and start earning bitcoin, just grow more knowledge about bitcoin and try to help other here in this forum.
1558  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What does it mean to invest in bitcoin? on: August 25, 2017, 07:25:31 PM
Invest in Bitcoins means. Buy and wait for it to rise. Because the Bitcoins' rise continues so much that it earns here like this .If you buy bitcoins when its price is $ 1000 and you're sell it into $ 2000 that means you earn $ 1000 easy. That's a good investment, but it's risky. Because it can fall long and you lose. But if it's a long time you'll keep it. You will probably earn a big deal here


the thing you must know about bitcoin as trader is that the falling of prices is not dangerous for your investment, for me falling of prices is an opportunity for you, it is not risk, bitcoin always rise after some small dumps because this fall is only risky for greedy peoples, the smart one take good advantage of fall and buy more coins for the future.
1559  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the moon!!! on: August 24, 2017, 05:09:31 PM
BTC will rise higher in the next coming year.
Be reay

I am buying more.
That's Good! You buy more bitcoin now that is really great decision for you, and i there is no doubt that your and your family future will be bright, and i think there are many people in the world who have no techniques to use it to make their future bright, so this way they need to join the bitcoin world and make their future bright.
1560  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC as a national currency? on: August 23, 2017, 08:55:10 PM
Currency cryptocurrency or bitcoin in my opinion will not be able to replace the state currency, because if bitcoin will take over the country's currency the government will certainly act immediately to stop bitcoin.
This decision pretty much depends on the public of that country. If people are quite fond of this currency and are ready to treat it as state currency, I don’t think so there would be nay problem in doing so. But what my experience and history says is that it could be used as secondary currency by any state.
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