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I'm wondering what you mean by "Doing poorly"?
Just curious because your message comes after the first rise in price of namecoins in a long time.
Nice list DannyM, though the only one I've seen in use is #1 on your list.
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In the beginning, god created hash, and it was good.
Pardon me but do you know where is the satoshi mecca ?
I'm ok with facing east every 10 minutes and mumbling SHA256 mumbo jumbo but i want somewhere to go where I can show off my tinfoil hat with deluded masses.
Yeah a black cube of solid ASIC power would work well. Hmm..
Praise The world He began almost 200,000 blocks ago, sorry to disturb you.
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Nice poem 8-)
don't forget:
TX tax
pool tax
bitinstant tax
mtgox tax
mixing tax
dwolla tax
mpoe registration tax
and of course
thumb tax
marza tax
deedossa tax
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Something else to add to these good ideas:
--> Some basic recognition of human psychology.
If we keep putting people in situations that we know people are likely to make war, we will continue to have war.
If we recognize these conditions and can keep in mind the strengths and weaknesses of human psyche, we will approach life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Doesn't matter how much free trade or AIs you have, if you give some kids some guns and tell them it's OK to shoot some people, guess what's gonna happen.
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You heard it first from a MMORPG site.
What's next, magic the gathering taking over world economy?
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Maybe they're sick of the vicious on-line arguments with apoplectic Israeli nationalists? And maybe the media makes it worse by suppressing these hideous crimes against humanity? Both. It really all boils down to one group of people who believe themselves to be the Master Race. Animals like you and I do not possess a fully human soul. Our souls are more like those of intelligent animals. That's why it's morally acceptable to predate us. Nah, nobody really believes that. If you are alive and able to talk or read a few basic symbols, you are too smart to really believe that 1) separate bloodlines exist (obviously they don't) or that 2) it would make any difference if they did (obviously it doesn't). However, if you are suffering from one of many very common mental illnesses commonly passed on to children via abuse, you might want to pretend that you believe such bullshit because it lets you 1) continue being unhappy and 2) work to make other people unhappy. |
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OK so maybe some roads will be built, but who will bring in millions of tons of salt to rust our wheelchairs and destroy our land? Who will encourage inefficient dead end infrastructure destined for oblivion? Who will systematically divide and cut off smaller and smaller pieces of our living ecosystem ensuring rapid isolation and die-offs for many land animals essential to our ecology?
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Nice work!! Very cool.
If you can do that so quickly I bet you could also check to see if various TX amounts obey Benford's law.
Ha, that was my next idea, too! That should be the easiest of all, except that certain things might need to be excluded (like fixed block rewards) -- does that make sense? Yeah you could take out the fixed rewards but by now that's a pretty small fraction of all outputs, so it might be only a slight bump above the Benford's distribution for 1st significant digit of 5. I guess you could make a histogram of first sig. fig. for all outputs, all inputs, miner fees, or maybe some other combination. The various hashes and nonces should give a normal distribution and not Benford's. Change transactions as well as mixing service transactions might also change the output distribution. |
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Nice work!! Very cool.
If you can do that so quickly I bet you could also check to see if various TX amounts obey Benford's law.
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@ Etlase2 Thanks for the simulating perspective, although I haven't had time to debate some of the points you raise on other posts, I have come to a conclusion I didn't consider before. My former understandings lead me to discount your idea of a new Bitcoin reward scheme. But I now consider it a possibility. How then could the two posts I quoted initially be accurate? How can the market find a real interest rate, or at least an acceptable one, when so much investment opportunity is hoarded rather than lent? According to this analysis, there would be economic recession. Since Bitcoin is currently such a small market, I think that implies a lack of any avenue for real growth.
This analysis claims that this would be the fault of economic policy or a problem with the market--"dramatic change in liquidity preference is more likely to be a consequence of an economywide intertemporal coordination failure than a cause of it." Does Bitcoin have an inherent intertemporal coordination failure?
I have arrived at the conclusion that the current Bitcoin reward scheme is flawed. For the reasons you have outlined and the paradox it has created that is hindering economic growth, that will perpetuate boom bust cycles until Bitcoin is the dominant medium of exchange (if it can become that). I have seen no evidence to convince me a perpetual inflating model is viable either. If the rate of coin production were to be changed it should look something like this:  I think the paradox of thrift would be counteracted to a large degree and be more equitable to all economic participants but still grant rewords to early adopters and benefits to productivity and encourage free market principles and the adoption of the new currency. This currency generation curve would be more analogues of Silver to Gold in relation to Bitcoin this model would also benefit Bitcoin users because it wouldn't penalise early adopters or disproportionately reword the innovators. (It would also accommodate defector from Bitcoin - with every crash should that prediction be accurate) other than (debated) technical improvements I find the Bitcoin idea still revolutionary. I await turning my miners loose on your Gausscoin. |
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Ridiculous. Walletbit?
I thought gambling sites were always the best targets for would-be DDOS extortion thugs.
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I second that "cool". Thanks! Can you give us some addresses which contain sequential digits of pi or e or sqrt 2? The addresses 1111111111111111111114oLvT2 and 1QLbz7JHiBTspS962RLKV8GndWFwi5j6Qr are pubkey hashes 0 and (2^160)-1 respectively. These are junk addresses right? No privkey possible? It might also be interesting to know how many coins are at such truly unreachable addresses. |
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The one show stopper for you, been mentioned already but again now for posterity:
Security. <===
Your idea is fantastic, but to implement it you need some way to securely identify unique humans, a nontrivial problem.
Until we have this down, we will be wasting our time.
That is of course an interesting problem to solve. It would require keeping a national database with biometric data (actually the EU kind of has one - most of the passports nowadays are biometric). Of course, hackers could pose a problem, but with sufficiently strong encryption and a transparent mechanism open for public auditing, I think it should be ok. Just think the bitcoin system, which is relatively immune to tampering attempts because of its open source structure. Yes, encryption and open system could help, but I don't see the solution. Until there is a secure implementation, there isn't one yet  This is indeed related to the bitcoin system. However, Proof-of-work, or one CPU one income, works because you can prove you did some hashing. However proving you are a human I have a feeling will be a trickier one and will wind up as a game of whack-a-mole as Gavin would say. The idea of a "national database" would of course have to be replaced by something public like a block chain data structure so to avoid regulatory capture phenomenon and the blatant security hole of letting some folks change the database at will. I have no idea how an "OP_ADD_HUMAN" transaction would be verified. It might need to wait for some kind of universally trusted AI to come along and welcome us all to the human polity IMHO other economic arguments for or against are rendered moot if there is no secure implementation with which to implement the system. |
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Do we not get owned by irregular fighters in pajamas? .. and extract sustenance from their lands. ... Is that what that's called when you throw money out of a helicopter? "Extracting sustenance" ? Or maybe that's the giant sucking sound of money leaving the hands of US citizens and dollar holders you are referring to? Last time I checked killing somebody with the worlds most expensive ammunition and leaving them in the dust didn't give much sustenance apart from sustaining your own mental illness. |
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Hello BTC community! I am a member of the German Pirate Party and am excited about their promotion of the idea of a Basic income guarantee. You can read about it here, among other places: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income_guaranteeThe idea is that: 1) People are producing more than they need, and with the further development of technology even less people will be needed to produce even more. Since less people will be working to produce, society as a whole would earn less, and therefore the population will not be able to afford to purchase all the goods being produced, eventually leading to bigger and bigger problems. 2) To overcome that, everyone is given a certain sum by the state every month that should provide for the basic amenities of life. Luxury goods will be available to those who can earn more money in the usual way, thus continuing to encourage private initiative. 3) Since the basic amenities will be covered, people will be free to pursue activities not directly related to their survival - like coding for Bitcoin  4) Financing for this whole venture would be obtained by taxes on products purchased and by abolition of unemployment subsidies (among other methods) Now, this is definitely a big state solution and I suppose that the multi-headed libertarian hydra on this forum will not like it, but I am ready to defend it Some more arguments already for your critique: the unemployment subsidies + underlying bureaucracy in Germany can be redistributed among the 80 million Germans at the rate of about 12.5k EUR per year. So 1000k EUR of basic income guarantee per month is realistic. This can be further expanded with several different approaches to taxation. So yeah, I'm curious to see what the community thinks about it. Thanks for reading, M The one show stopper for you, been mentioned already but again now for posterity: Security. <=== If you can find a way to make a verifiable and uncorruptible per-person payment scheme, please let us know. Until then this will sadly be a joke and thieves as well as your "state regulators" will find a way to get themselves the income of 1000 people by declaring themselves as 1000 individuals. Take a look at how hopelessly corrupt state voting systems are, and put some extra money on the line for individuals in addition to the usual theatrics and you will get some idea what would happen if you tried to implement such a system without getting some kind of basic security in order first. Some kind of biometrics will be necessary, but it's not obvious to me how exactly this can work. Sure I can add a hash of an iris scan to a database but what guarantees this is a hash of an iris scan and not a number I made up to collect some extra cash? "Honest regulators" is a reasonable answer if you happen to live in fairyland. Your idea is fantastic, but to implement it you need some way to securely identify unique humans, a nontrivial problem. Until we have this down, we will be wasting our time. good luck!!!!! |
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If the Bitcoin client generates the keys, is the only way to get those keys is through and export function?
The beauty I saw in the bitcoinaddress.org paper wallet approach is you never had to load the private keys into memory (simply print them). Thus eliminating any chance of key loggers capturing that data. Is there a way to do something similar in a BC client?
Think so. I've never worried about that, since I keep all my machines both windows and linux regularly scanned. You really don't have much to worry about on a fresh install of Ubuntu. How you expect it to get infected? You'd only risk comes from keyloggers if you happily installed a wallet on an already infected drive, which quiet frankly is your fault for not making sure it's clean first. Just some light reading I think might be relevant here for the paranoid: http://www.toucan-system.com/research/blackhat2012_brossard_hardware_backdooring.pdf |
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But don't you know that there is not enough room for everyone to have a personal (even communal) orchard?
Or that there is not enough game in the woods to feed humanity for one week?
Or that people started settling in cities where there are no orchards thousands of years ago?
Or that there would be no computers or internet if everyone lived only off their land?
And the part that produces all these nice technology for you is driven by cities with workers.
And the socio economic environment in cities is completely different from 'living off the land' and people can realy be dependant on someone providing work or even welfare.
Show me your sources for these claims that there is not enough land for every community to have land to farm and raise livestock (with a communal orchard). You are speaking about personal choice and personal responsibility. Go take a look at available land. Its plentiful.Good land is pretty scarse. It would barely be enough to give everyone a place to grow their own food, so no space for any other development. According to wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arable_land) there is about 48,836,976 kmē of land where you can grow food on. That means that there is 48836976 kmē / 7000000000 people which comes down to 0.007 kmē per person. That is a patch of about 83 by 83 meters per person. That's barely enough to support that and it's getting less. So if you know a way for everyone to live off of 83 by 83 meters then please enlight us. And i bet your own yard is bigger than this. Also, if everyone would have to live off the land then there would be noone to create the technology you use right now. Or did you think that newton or einstein farmed their own food? Or that the guys at intel go out sowing their crops in the afternoon? So it seems you are a bit misguided as to the real situation in the world and just blabber away from your priviledged position... Don't forget that we are working as hard as we can to continue desertification and minimize that arable land area. Go Monsanto! |
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I didn't come here looking for an "actual law" written down by your favorite authority figure to be the be-all and end-all. If that's the way you want to go, you are 100% right.
The law in question (right of law enforcement officers to stop drivers and obligations of citizens to stop) enjoys near unanimous support in just about every civilized society. If we want to start talking about well-connected men in funny hats, it's better to make examples out of laws that are actually harmful and have a sizable dissent in tow (such as marijuana laws, or laws meant to "protect" air travelers, or election campaign/finance/districting laws, or, drumroll, banking laws). Thanks for your replies Casascius. Ah, civilized society, nice word. After all if you can't kill innocent women and children by calling them terrorists or claiming they ran away, You can't call yourself a civilized country can you? You seem quite good at examining security from a variety of different use-case perspectives. Can't you imagine some problems with this "right of law enforcement officers to stop drivers" law ? |
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Yeah the person being pursued initiates the pursuit!! That shit makes a lot of sense, provided you have grown up on a steady stream of police-state sanctioned entertainment and a healthy dose of your daily do-no-think-for-yourself cereal.
Um, no, police really do have a legal authority to pull people over based on actual law and not fiction. And citizens have a likewise real legal obligation to stop. I know this is the bitcoin forums and all, and we discuss electronic money that is largely out of reach of the law, and there's a large consensus that law and governments are overreaching as a rule, but I think you're confusing this with a forum where people believe there should be no laws or law enforcement of any kind. Hmm would you like a glass of we-love-jackbooted-authoritarianism to go with that? I was hoping to discuss ideas, reason, justice, mathematics.. that kind of stuff. I didn't come here looking for an "actual law" written down by your favorite authority figure to be the be-all and end-all. If that's the way you want to go, you are 100% right. There are legal obligations and yes, legally many can kill us with impunity and often initiate costly and violent vehicular pursuit for little or no gain. But hey it's the law so everything's in order. That guy with the injuries, those pedestrians and motorists with injuries, this big bill I'm giving you to pay for it: all legal. His fault, because some well connected guy in a funny hat wrote it down. |
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The real travesty was that evil government probably had to confiscate somebody else's property and redistribute it to a medical professional in order to save you from a problem you unnecessarily caused yourself. Thank your lucky stars that whoever actually performed the procedure looked past your own stupidity and probably gave his reasonable best efforts to leave you in the best possible condition, when he could have just as easily cut off your leg and tell you it was infected and necessary to save your life and that that run was your last, at which point no one would still ever question whether he "did his job".
I am all for exposing police corruption and checks and balances and all, but the authority for the police to chase you down and take you by force after you put your fellow citizens in danger by "initiating" a pursuit serves a legitimate public interest and is likely supported by an overwhelming majority of the population in your area. This was a story of the police just doing their job. Save the corruption whistle for when the police actually violate the rights of citizens who are at least claiming to be innocent.
Yeah the person being pursued initiates the pursuit!! That shit makes a lot of sense, provided you have grown up on a steady stream of police-state sanctioned entertainment and a healthy dose of your daily do-no-think-for-yourself cereal. "Your honor, he started it. He was moving away from me and taunted my with his tongue out. I had no choice but to endanger the populace and initiate violence at huge cost to citizens and taxpayers. It looked good on TV though from the helicopter eh? ". "Yes Officer, it did. I see your gang uniform is in good condition and you are in good standing with the local cocaine import association. I also cannot stand that any of our citizens would continue to go about their business even when they see or don't see one of you armed gang members telling them to do otherwise for any or no reason. Clearly all violence against him for considering to go about his business is justified" |
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