Like it sucks having to spend 20 bucks every month just for a prepaid phone with no ties to my real name or info.

I tried some "free" numbers in the past and coinflips stupid AI can apparently detect that and blocks it for some dumb reason. they're not gonna get penalized for not blocking numbers like that. I doubt they would if they didn't detect it. idk... but surely there has got to be some free or even just cheap numbers that will work for this.

or if anyone has any ideas for cheaper sms phones. like I used tracfone. it's only 20 bucks for a tons of minutes and sms n so on but it literally expires for some reason. so it means I have to buy more even tho I'm only using it one time.

being anonymous is so super expensive!

Okay so wait... non kyc bitcoin is the best to have. You dont HAVE to justify it. You got it before KYC was a thing! So unless your nation or situation states you can't have more than a certain amount of assets then yeah. If you're in the USA you can sell at long term cap gain tax rate whenever you want to, OR even better, not pay taxes on selling by simply getting a loan and having your btc at collateral. You could buy a rental place or something pay it off and keep both and wait to sell when btc goes to a million one day idk. That one will link your name to your bitcoin but you dont trigger a taxable event in the USA afaik?

The ATMs are gonna RIP you sideways man. Unless you live in an area where they're more reasonable but the ones that you can sell btc for cash cut your legs off. Lets say btc is 100k, they will say okay we'll buy btc and give you cash but you're gonna sell btc for 60k to us. so you might as well pay cap gain taxes at that point.


Also, I wouldn't talk about laundering anything if I were you. At least use code words or something. if you live in the USA, and maybe a few other nations, the IRS/glow boys probably read these forums.

You're not laundering btc, you're cleaning it or legitimizing it or something. Dont criminalize yourself. and yeah ik you prob dont have any info connected to your account here but still. dont talk like that, only saying it to you any anyone else reading this because I support your game plan so I'm just saying.

SPACE YOURSELF OUT! Don't put 1k in each time. Do like 250 or 500 in your case.


But yes I saw the title and I feel the same exact way! I'm prob gonna try picking up some today, but I'm only gonna do like maybe 25 to 50% of my btc buying funds in case it goes even lower at some point I'll keep trying to buy the dip.

Hopefully (and I dont think so) we arent seeing the end of a dead cat bounce.

Thank you guys very much. This is pretty much what I thought but just making sure!

One option. Buy bitcoin on any exchange KYC or not. Send the bought bitcoin to the Incognito wallet app, if it's not huge ammounts, or even if it is, convert to monero, send monero to an anonymous exchange.

Safepal has an anonymous binance international that still allows you to withdraw up to 2 btc a day. You can use the binance app part of the safepal wallet to conver monero back to btc.

And it's all cheaper than using a bitcoin mixer or other methods which are like 15 dollars or more per mix or transaction. this method costs pennies to mix on incognito, and that's probably all you need to do, but the monero transaction is just to be on the safe side and have a multi anon layer of protection.

Like Binance international for example.

If you know a bitcoin address sent we'll say 200 dollars in btc to a bitcoin exchange address. can you see what happens to it after? Like if it gets exchanged to other coins or even just sent to another wallet?

I know the exchanges can, but can individuals like you or I?

USDT has that too??? WTF!???!

Maybe I should call it safe and trade out of cardano soon especially since I'm up on gains, I'd hate to miss out tho. I think ADA is gonna go to 3 maybe as high as 5 dollars.

Is DAI stable coin better?

14:11 of this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag3vnsdqH0o&ab_channel=CoinBureau

If you have your cardano in say exodus or safepal or whatever wallet. How can Cardano lock you out of your wallet? They dont have the keys? Or do they?

Okay thanks for the suggestions.

ADA, VET, SOL, ATOM are the ones I'm trying to do. And maybe others one day. Too bad you cant stake bitcoin.

I guess there is no way to know what info exodus or other software wallets keep on you?

Idk if right section but my idea is since the IRS doesn't tax credit, what if there was a way to trade in "credit" instead? You know how you get cash back from credit, or even just positive credit statement balances? What if you could tap out gains in crypto in the form of credit so it doesn't get taxed?

Sorry I'm kind of a noob or maybe just not the brightest in terms of knowing legalese so someone can, please politely, explain how that would probably not work, and maybe how it could if something were changed?

It's not fair that people in the US can't trade alt coins without a cap gain tax taking literally nearly half of every single trade you do.

Obviously some buy bitcoin anonymously and ... we'll just say end up not worrying about cap gain taxes.

but it's crazy the average person who doesn't want to "bReAk tHe LaW" will get punished if they get one thing wrong on something. like imagine making thousands of trades, and those trades are not even that profitile, but the IRS wants nearly half of each trade, and you haven't even cashed out yet.

It's even more funny when about half of the millennials/gen z I know don't even know you have to pay cap gains taxes. So far none of them have ever gotten audited by the IRS or chased down or anything. I don't think they really care to go after people who aren't earning much. In fact, I have seen contradictory stuff. Like one website said you don't have to worry about cap gain taxes if you make less than a certain amount, 10k or 15k? a year or something. idk. SO maybe that's why the IRS doesn't go after them. Idk. I myself don't even know the laws.....

Like a btc whale wallet address that has been the most successful at buying bitcoin right before pumps and selling right before dumps? Surely there are some out there that one could track to predict prices?

Oh hell for that matter, does anyone know some famous addresses? Like famous successful youtubers btc addresses are? Although they're probably trading on exchanges. Surely there are people just buying/selling from their actual address right?

I've tried analyzing graphs, learning stuff, and I'm successful maybe half the time. It's about a coin toss. For example. I think we've had a recent spike up.... from what I know, we should have a correction, but we're already going through a small one, as to how far down. no idea. but I'm guessing it might go back up after this. No idea how much. I just know, bunch of green candles, the more of them, the higher chance of correction down. Similar with red and the inverse, more red, more chance of seeing a green.

But apparently, there are some master predicters who are right most of the time and they've been doing this since the early days of bitcoin. Seeing what they're gonna do is prob a good indication of what's about to come.

many of them anonymous, so it doesn't need to be a "famous youtuber" or anyone special. just any good big wallets that have? Idk.

I know of Atomic wallet, any other trustworthy ones? And especially ones that use Tor to activate like the electrum wallet. Apparently IP addresses can be tracked not using Tor with the wallet?

So are there any trustworthy ones that have popular alt coin support and allow staking that use tor to connect?

I'm probably asking for too much.

Where do you find cheap stainless steel plates? I cant find any where I live and online is all ridiculous prices.

ANY place I could try to buy using a cheque?

I tried paypal, but they don't accept personal single party checks which is my dilemma.

Thanks for the suggestions! I assume trust wallet doesn't do KYC? And does it have higher return rates?

Like exodus or... ?

Like is there a list? Exodus allows staking ADA, VET, SOL, DAI, and others but not Eth.

Thanks for the replies, a great diverse range of opinions were given here.

Yeah. Maybe I dont need to own one bitcoin. I think I just hear so much about these people with so many multiple whole bitcoins I feel like it's been the "norm" for most people. All these youtubers and so many other people on the internet, they're prob already less than 1% of bitcoin holders so I've probably thought whole coiners were more of a norm which was depressing as it would take at least a couple years for me, even if I had literally no bills and could save 100% of my income to dump into bitcoin to be able to buy one entire one.

So, I need to get back to just re-finding peace in my situation and stop thinking about it so much. Maybe all my sacrifice will pay off one day.

I know a guy whos boss literally mined hundreds of bitcoin back in the day. I just kick myself for not looking into it more. I just didn't know the price fluctuated. I feel so dumb thinking it was just "pegged" at a certain price and didn't move much. So I was like okay... I didn't really see the point, especially since back then they said it's only good for buying stuff on the silk road. Uhg. Well I know now and that's what matters.


And yeah thanks everyone for snapping me back to some degree. I should keep just DCA-ing into bitcoin mostly. Altcoins with any extra during dips. Just sticking to the ones listed. Maybe one of the alt coins will pump and I can convert it to helping me get to bitcoin, maybe not. Idk.

All I know is no matter what happens I'll never sell my bitcoin and I'll prob just look at it as a generational thing.

I only started like late last year. I heard of bitcoin years prior but I didn't know it went up over time so I just thought "crypto currency" was internet money. Like, the dollar, it doens't really go up or down that much. (ik it kinda actually does but u get the point)

I feel so agro that I didn't get in way sooner. god... I feel like I'm buying the top. I'm just hoping in another few years it will go up and I'll not have thrown away my hard time/labor. I think it's going no where but up long term, but for how much higher idk. It turned into my "hedge against inflation" to a pipe dream of not being in poverty. That would be nice. not counting on that happening in my life time. I think my only goal is gonna be have a kid or two, and hope I did enough in saving/investing so that they wont have to grow up in poverty like I did.

One day but not any time soon. Trust me.

I will take maybeeee a decade or so before MAYBEEeeE maybe, something like Eth or ADA takes over.

Just watching how many hundreds it's going up each day. I really appreciated this dip. I legit dumped everything I had into it. I was actually hoping for a bear market to buy more at cheaper prices. I still am not sure we're not gonna hover around this long dip/mini bear market longer idk.

But just thinking about how if it is the bear market for the supercycle.

With bitcoin going up in price. To eventually own just 1 bitcoin. I've been buying periodically over time... I'm no where close. If bitcoin reaches 100k or higher, it will be more than double the time, then, if it keeps going higher. lets say goes to 200k, then bear market back down to 100k. well unless I get a job that pays decent.. it seems impossible. I already spend literally everything I have leftover, aside from rent, utilities, food, etc. you know. Like. My main source of entertainment is just crypto news videos.

That's why I've came to the conclusion that I have to risk it and invest more heavily into alt coins. In the hopes doge pumps again. next time if it gets to just 50 cents I'll sell half and convert to bitcoin maybe. same with the others. I mostly am just holding ADA, KSM, XMR, VET. If they can pump up at higher percentages, maybe, I can keep up with the average investor maybe.

Maybe I wont care if bitcoin keeps going up. Maybe one day just 0.02 btc or maybe 0.04 if I can put more in before the percentage of dollars to btc becomes so far off everything is negligible. maybe one day it wont matter if you cant own an entire coin. maybe 1mbt will be like what 1 whole bitcoin is today, or even just 1 satoshi will equal 1 dollar and I'll be a millionaire in that way. Or maybe my kids will be idk.