I hear it's good but how much better is it for companies to invest in using it? I know there are some using it already I believe. How long have they been operating and if they have a good record of reliability what is stopping more major western companies from using it? I hear it's mostly eastern companies in China. How much would a company save using Vechain over standard logistics tracking?

I knew most of that but thanks didn't know about Binance USD and some of the others. Though it doesn't say if they're ERC-20 or not. I assume BUSD is powered by the Binance token though so that should be cheaper to send than the ERC-20 tokens. I'll have to look up if PAX and TUSD are ERC-20 tokens as it doesn't say in the website there.


I didn't know all ERC20 tokens cost the same to move, also didn't know that they were all ERC20 tokens in the first place but thank you guys for the info.

Sorry I'm so noobish at this stuff. One day I aspire to be pros like you guys!

Thanks. I looked on those two websites, as well as have already researched a lot on them. I could probably write a 2 page essay on stable coins but I can't for the life of me find the exact transfer fees among them.

Lots of stuff about "withdrawing" fees and even trading fees but not much on sending from one crypto wallet to another. Like miner or gas fees.

Is there a site that legit just talks about the purely sending/transfer fees for each crypto?

I made a thread called

"Which stable coin is the cheapest + fastest for sending?
Between USDT, USDC, and DAI"

And it got deleted. I asked a mod and he said he didn't delete it but maybe it violated the first rule of the website about "No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. "

So.... if that's the case sorry. Maybe this is such an obvious answer. Me being a noob I honestly dont know other than in terms of sending, XLM, Tron and XRP are much cheaper than Bit and Eth.

But if the thread was in fact a violation of rule 1 because it's just something everyone should know. Is there a website that teaches all of the basics of all of the different cryptos and their fees? I looked online and didn't find much other than stuff about the fees on bitcoin vs Eth vs others but it didn't talk about stable coins. So if there is like a wikipedia or website for all the cryptos I'll refer to that before asking on here.

Could be they're afraid of the IRS and taxes... o_o

I know a girl who literally bought doge for the sole reason of "aww cute doggy!"


I shit you not. If she kept some, she's doing pretty well right now.

The cuteness of it might get people into the crypto space so regardless if you think it's a shit coin or not, it's a good thing if it gets people in and using it.

I think it was on track to until Eth 2.0 started to actually come out "allegedly" now people are jumping on that.

If Eth development stayed stagnant, yeah I think ADA would have eventually taken over but Eth is breaking out.

ADA still has hope with the Africa project. If they get that in the bag, they might be doing their own thing in Africa. But so long as Eth actually successfully implements Eth 2.0 it's not going to be killed by ADA. ADA is a bit more risky considering if the Africa project fails, they're going to suffer from that. I dont see any issue with the project itself, rather, the governments in Africa changing their mind.

Waltonchain looks dead, is it over for Waltonchain or do you think it will one day rival Vechain again?

What happened? I read something about Vechain was chosen over Waltonchain for supply chain management. Is there a flaw in Waltonchain or is Vechain just a lot better and more efficient?

Yeah. So I've been trying it and well I'm mostly just using it as if it's a bitcoin mixer. The fees are very low. I'm not keeping anything on it, but I am using it to receive bitcoin not associated with me.


It takes...... FFOOORRRREEEEVVVVVEEEERRRR to mask it and stuff. Like. Holy crap.

I think I figured one out. For anyone else who might have the same questions. It's called "the incognito" wallet. the fees to swap coins for XMR seem pretty low.

This is one of probably many different ways.

^ Some wallets like the Exodus wallet have their own fees for "swaping" coins. Exodus is pretty high. swap 100 usd worth of something pay between 10 and 15 dollars.

Maybe 20 years from now when we have mass inflation

Maybe 10 bucks but lets talk about that when, or if.... it reaches a dollar first.

It seems promising. It makes your coins private and you can swap for other coins with low fees it seems. I havent used it yet but seems promising.

VeChain is gonna be one of those "shit" coins that one day rivals or surpasses Ethereum.

The Exodus wallet for example, has a simple "swap" feature that you can swap stuff for XMR. But the fees are high. Are there any other wallets that have this function? It of course only works if you have a VPN turned on to set you outside of the USA. There are exchanges, but it's a cluster to set up accounts, and I dont want to risk getting locked out if they suspect I have a VPN on and am actually from the USA. So are there any specifically wallets that have this function other than Exodus, but also, are a lot cheaper in fees?

Hmm so I'm guessing they're def keeping a record on what phone numbers are used.

Best way is with a burner phone.

I hear everyone talking about how it's going to be alt coin season when bitcoin season is over. But how? Whenever bitcoin falls, for some whack reason alt coins follow suit. Even those coins whos projects have nothing to do with bitcoin like Vechain.

I really feel like we've hit the market cycle top earlier than expected tbh

Yeah I mean like which has the most tokens supported? Like Exodus has a bunch. Trezor for example I hear doesn't support XLM. Which ones support swapping Monaro for example?

Not in the US. It's not a super simple process of obtaining monero. Easy once you know what you're doing but you have to go through some steps. so unless that changes