Sigh. So tired of being punished for giving a company my money to build their company and holding forever only to find out I could have quadrupled my holdings for even less had I just waited.
I had just bought some shares a few hours before it crashed -_- |
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must not have bought that great of miners if thats all he mined for you guys' dividends.
Dividends was from cam tips. Since he claimed he purchased miners, he should put further information up. The 20 BTC is probably pulling their hair out |
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Wow, what happens with the share? is very very low.
BTC price went up, so of course the price of the shares went down. Whats worrisome is its relative USD / BTC value also went down, used to be ~6 cents, now ~4 cents. Edit: Further looking at it, its lost ~25% of its value within the past 3-4 hours. Some whales crashed the price, check out the orderbook. |
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Well I hv tried to get the price I paid. And thanks for your advice. I will wait as the market develops. You can't buy that many shares on havelock without pushing price up. Similarly you say I can't sell without pushing price down.
I guess 2 months is not so long to double your money on the mining shares, and hv a fair income each week. As far as I can see I am best to wait until the dividend doubles like on the other cyrptx mine, and then as the price of the units go up I will then sell. I was looking for a quick sell without fucking the market price or myself. I hv explained the situation fully and I am happy to wait.
Cryptx have proved themselves with their other mine and I wanted mining income each week without the hassle of trying to become a miner. After mtgox i am very jumpy some days leaving masses of coin anywhere and I overlooked the fact I may hv to hold the units for 2 months. Thats all. I am decent at currency trading and wanted a break with residual income.
If you say what you say. Cool matey, I will wait until the mine develops fully. Cryptx are not idiots or scammers as far as i can see.
Thanks,
TSD
How did you get 244 BTC? And yes... Selling pushes the price down, especially in a quantity that large. You shouldn't assume the price will go back to what you paid for it. If you think the price will go up, you keep them, if you think the price will go down, you sell, regardless if that means your taking a loss. Better to take a small loss than a big loss. If 244 coins is all you have, its also best to not keep all your eggs in the same basket. Mining contracts / shares are notoriously tricky, lots of risk for little gain IMO. After you eventually cash out, I would suggest keeping your btc invested in a site such as Just-Dice, and would purchase a few RENT / CBTC shares and maybe a little bit of mining from PBMining. Cryptostocks are not very safe investments especially with large sums. Hope it goes well for you |
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Dividend received ($.09, woo!) Hope you enjoyed the 5 beers my 20 bucks got you, as for the guy that lost 20 BTC, dont know if hes feeling the same way  |
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Havelock seems pretty good for an alternative, yes? I havent really tried it out but i'm really surprised I don't have money there but do have money on CS, wish RETURN and other legit projects could somehow move there.
If people made another funding platform like CS it could definitly be improved with some very basic things:
- Require project owners have a password that is 16 characters w/ one uppercase, one number, one symbol
- Require certain changes to projects to have a waiting period, like 24 hours to create new shares.
- maybe allow shareholders to issue stoptrade order if like 1/2 request it (i.e. project owner gets on forum here and says account has been hacked, bunch of shareholders found proof of fraud) and stoptrade would freeze owners withdrawals.
Havelock is nice, but they have higher costs on the share issuers, which is the only thing going for cryptostocks is that little business's are able to sell shares. Litecoininvest is also good but its in LTC, fee is only 10 LTC to list and the people running it are competent (have talked quite a bit with them). To bad their volume sucks :S |
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You should make it very clear that this is a preorder, "Mining will begin in July end (approx.)", preorders are almost always backtracked. Would the buyer receive compensation if mining does not begin before the end of July?
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Messaged user asking his price days ago and still no response. Lame.
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Quick Bump here, just to show that BitcoinBourse is a SCAM operation :S
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With facts of ? This accusations come from a groupe of guys have nothing in his life to do and accuse other people for jealousy nothing else! All this people are members of bitcoin-assets irc chat, all we know bitcoin assets irc chat is the chat from havelock investments! So who is scammed by bitcoin bourse? Who ? Because we have no Order book till now? are you scammed for that issue? Or anything else missing? User 1 want have this, user 2 want have this, and user 3 want have this, can i request also on your websites new features? and if you not do immediately can i call you scam as the site is not working as i want? Who is scammed i ask real? @fluffyponny ? Mr Riccardo Spaghni? running the openrigs scam : http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/2591c7/hello_members_of_the_cryptocurrency_community/and try to get a IPO launched : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=595754.0for his famous website : https://vertpay.com/or @pankkake ? Mr Romain Bignon ? who offers here in forums pro. Headfucking services to people who like to destroy competitors? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.0;allor @davout Mr. David Francois famous Bitcointalk Moderator, best friend of Mr. Karpeles and working for the other french Bitcoin company Paymium ( 2 french companies working in Bitcoin : Paymium and us Bitcoin SARL ) Member of famous Bitcoin association in France! : http://associationbitcoin.com/Owners of famous Bitcoin-central the European exchange already hacked and stolen thousands of Bitcoins : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321572.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186609.0etc etc etc. or @forensick Mr. Martin Belobrand? ex partner of Bitcoin Bourse, wants to run BitcoinBurza.com in Czech and Slovak, pay 1000 € in the beginning and think we give him full system. Than he want back his 1000 € when we dispute about he is not able to do more than speak! When bitcoin bourse gets first funds from IPO i send Mr @forensick 10 BTC ( i can provide blockchain transaction ) so i guess this is more than enough and sorry man the 1000 € you want on top you will never get from principle this way, you are a Lawyer or you guess you are so than go the way the law is for here and don't menace my anymore i have saved also all our communication and your threat against me! So is he scammed by bitcoin bourse or me ? no he is only a sad ex partner of our company and search revenge!!! or at last @jurov also partner of @forensick in slovakia and friend of the other guys from http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ owner of http://coinbr.com Your online MPEx broker listed all at bitcoin-asset.com Summary: 4 Guys working on competitor companies 1 guy sadly our ex partner search revenge Anything else  Nobody is scammed by me or bitcoin bourse! This forum and davouts power as moderator is used in a very simple reason to shut us down and give us negative face to the public!!! But the people know now your history about, who cares your words now?, i am not and i not will in future respond anymore to this shit! If anyone have eggs you can visit me on my office and talk face to face this accusations, but no one have, you accuse people of scams but you are inside of the class house! There is no scam on my site sorry and never will be! In real world guys you face many problems in a court, but i not want lost the time and the money to sue Forum or chat Trolls like you, It is not worth for! If you want be better than me, work to compete! don't troll me anymore! i know i am the pain in your ass but that's life poor guys! Markus This was my last post! Bye Bitcointalk Troll & Scammer Forum WOW! What a professional business! They receive criticism so there answer is to simply dust off the accusations as trolls and scammers, "This was my last post! Bye Bitcointalk Troll & Scammer Forum", and to ignore responding / listening. Every business faces criticisms, even the largest companies in the world. The way you are dealing with it, makes you sound like a 5 year old. The fact that you changed prices on your customers overnight without any warning, that your fee's are higher than ANYONE on the market, AND that you don't even have basic necessities in an exchange such as an orderbook, all shows proof that you are not responsible enough to run a single business, not to mention the EIGHT you are trying to run. Anyone that puts money with them is asking to lose it. |
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Yes you may be right in saying that. But if you put large orders on the market the price will shoot up. The issue with the unit price at moment is lots of people sold at a loss, which I don't understand, without much demand as most already bought in like me . If you look at PETA mine, the units more than doubled in value after 2 or 3 months. And the dividend will increase to double what it is now.
Thanks for the feedback much appreciated, but I can't take a loss on it. I just need money at the moment which I ended up storing in the mine due to thinking bitstamp could get hacked. Its basically due to mtgox I thought it would be safer locking funds in the mine. I did not 100% think it through as I now will hv to wait months to be able to sell the units and use the BTC funds. If mtgox did not steal all my BTC then I would be happy to stay in the mine getting an income each week without having to do anything.
Your wisdom and suggestions are very much welcome. Thankyou.
TSD
Are you flat out stupid? No one cares if you take a loss on it, why would they take a guaranteed loss by purchasing from you? They can buy it cheaper on havelock, much more conveniently and quickly than having to get in touch with you and than pay a premium on top of it. You should never invest more than you can afford to lose. The fact that you claimed to have invested 234.85 BTC (~$153,000) shows the current issue with BTC shares. People that have no clue how to invest their money are throwing huge sums around, just because its in BTC and not USD. Units Outstanding 29438 Last Price ฿0.02699977 The fact that you own ~20% of this entire offering, will make selling these shares impossible without crashing the price. If you want to sell, fill all the buy orders above .024 and than set a sell wall at .024, might even need to discount further. |
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I am from the US
I dont have any non collectible gold right now, so I wouldn't be able to offer you closer to spot prices :/
I do have quite a bit of silver I will let go near spot, 1oz rounds / bars + 90% junk silver.
Im not interested in building an online store, too time / resource consuming for what I want to do. Not in a big rush to sell.
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Are we talking about investing in BitcoinBourse its self, or shares on BitcoinBourse?
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Buying it actually doesn't seem to terrible at its current price. Havelock is retaining 100BTC in funds they raised, yet their current price has a market cap of 33BTC. If Havelock distributes the funds back to shareholders (As it should: This is clearly a scam listing) would 3x investment. Havelock said earlier on this thread they don't plan on releasing the funds to MS.
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Can't say Im terribly surprised. Put $20 into this, figured would be nice to help an ex homeless guy start up. I was assuming the 20BTC was you just trying to increase the value of the shares so you could sell them for more. To whoever invested that, please look into what you are investing in. This guy has had a mega history of gambling, investing large sums into him would not (and clearly shown here) not a good decision to make. If you can't stop when your up you need to get some help. Maybe ask Just-Dice if they will ban your IP (Yes you can always go somewhere else and be able to access the site, but a lot of gambling related issues is more based on urges).
Hopefully you will stick to your word, as someone just lost $12,000 entrusted with you.
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Mpex exchange fruad
They fake trade volumes, no way they are doing 700btc a day in trade.
I don't know if I can agree with this, as my MPEX trades (around the 5-15 BTC mark) have immediately shown up in the order book and have been relayed by the IRC bot. Regardless, proving false trade volumes is exceedingly difficult, if this thread continues it should be outright and blatant fraud, not a list of "people who were mean to me". The site's own shares are nearly its entire volume. What a sham. |
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Il bid 0.00000001 BTC  |
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