Your government wants to identify you via one of the numbers, eg social security...

Germany serves as a hub for fedex aswell as dhl.

Even miners flying fedex to the US pass through Germany, so nothing to worry about.

I would guesstimate those are non-transferable, but please wait for spondoolies official comment.

That is why I repeated the post from spondoolies, which stated that August batch units will be shipped in August, more precisely before the 29th.

Your groupbuy order should therefore ship today or tomorrow (or was already shipped yesterday, though chances are that you would know about that).

This has been previously stated by sp-tech and asking the same question(s) every day doesn´t relly get you anywhere.

Spondoolies is shipping units every day, backlog will be cleared as per their promises.

Orders should ship before Friday.

This is essentially what every hardware manufacturer does, spondoolies treats their customers quite fairly (and I know no better company in regards to this).

You cannot make spondoolies responsible for the way bitcoin mining (and the whole bitcoin ecosystem by extension) works.


If you are so angry about this, I would have liked to see your forum comments had you gone with BFL, or companies that didn´t deliver on their promises at all.

Because there is no corpus, so it is technically the smallest backbone.

Spondoolies miners seem very well-engineered and reliability is certainly important when speaking of longevity.

Economy of scale aswell as the huge importance of geographical position of your mining facility (as it relates to electricity prices)
will hopefully help the next deployment of spondoolies next gen equipment and customers to see even better ROI numbers in the not to distant future,
but for now the sp30 and sp31 seems like a very solid solution.

A very small backbone like an atlas (C1) then.

It remains to be seen whether spondoolies will be able to increase volume as (likely) planned (chip sales might add a good chunk to that).

Nobody can give a good prediction on this, as the parameters to calculate it are largely unknown.

A typical lifetime for a miner has been around 1 year , which is mainly due to high historical efficiency increases.

Current generation Spondoolies miners could proove to be a reliable backbone of the blockchain for over 1 year, if difficulty growth decreases as expected and / or bitcoin value increases.

It is also likely that August batch machines will be profitable.

Okay, I wasn´t up to date on the alleged units.

My question would be, why would you do such a big investment if you aren´t absolutely sure there are factors which will help you ROI faster?

I can understand such a big investment if you are sitting in a warehouse with 400kW available electricity and rates of 2,5-5 ct/kWh....

But certainly not without even a hosting solution figured out, just saying.


That being said, the general consensus seems to be that average difficulty increases will slow down (and have already slowed down in the last months).
Bitfury approaches their internal cost very soon, and most other hardware is less power-efficient.

@ wissam

If you are so disappointed, why don´t you go for the refund?

Complaining on the forum how you think there will be perpetual difficulty rise and other factors not within direct control of spondoolies will certainly not help your position.

I agree that long-term pre-orders are risky and generally don´t turn out too well.


Spondoolies produces a quality product though, and there is such a high demand that people want to pay for their product in advance.

It seems like some groupbuy units were shipped today (and some were put into hosting aswell).

I got my first email regarding compensation today, so that is starting aswell.

My guess is that all groupbuy units should ship until Thursday, and will therefore be with their respective owners soon.

yes, black and green (the black where 3 blacks are next to each other).

That the unit is ready for hosting.

When did mining become all about ROI in less than 3 months?

Mining rewards have become less and ROI periods therefore longer in the last year.

We alse saw / see a slow down in average difficulty increase, exactly what you would expect when rewards get thinner.


The notion that mining will forever be the most profitable investment on the planet is utterly flawed.

It will eventually level out to something like electricity used + small incentive to keep mining.
How big this incentive will turn out to be depends on the mining community as a whole.

The statos quo still has some very nice ROI periods and therefore profits to be made.

Shipping time from spondoolies to the US is typically 2 days, you will receive the miner on the second day after shipment.

It should therefore be safe to say that pure shipping time shouldn´t be more than 2-3 days, unless you live at the proverbial end of the world.

Silicon area is always more expensive on a smaller process, but a much higher GH/area can be reached, therefore effectively making it cheaper.

You might have misunderstood. The only thing I referred to is he who pays first, gets units first (which is a fair system in my opinion).

The statement "exactly that happens" only referred to what was stated before the comma in that particular sentence, not the previous post.

They previously sold some 1.25TH miners.

I will not hold it against you as your account is still quite new (and I guess you are already punished enough by dealing with BFL)

Anyone who does a quick forum search should immediatly be put off buying BFL products.