I've edited the OP to make it a bit more general and cover all service related spam, which includes pools.
If a new coin is released, and I create a pool for it, am I allowed to post just one time to inform miners that a pool has been setup? eg: "pool is up at: pool url here" Or is that classified as advertising spam? That's got to be okay. If that's considered "advertising spam" then this rule is beyond ridiculous. Well, a mod just deleted this post: "BigBangCoin added to http://bbc.minerpools.com - Dev, please add it to the OP. Thank you." How in the world can this be considered spam and get deleted but we can still have Carsen creating scam coins every week and nothing happens? |
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Listing available pools in the OP is fine.
I really don't understand why people grumble about this... Pool Operators can contact the coin dev and ask to include a link to their pool in the OP. Problem Solved! No, the problem is not solved. Dev's are not online 24/7. Not all devs are responsive. This allows the dev to only accept their favorite pools and accept payoffs. This does not spread the hash. This does not allow miners to mine until/if the dev updates the OP. Not even close to a solution...more like a de-lution. True, a lot of devs take too long to add a pool if they ever do anyway, this could only lead to centralization. The best solution would be to simply allow pool ops to be able to post at least ONCE. |
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POW phase is over, thank you for mining with us!
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pools ops were drowning the forum in spam.  I agree, many were posting sometimes two times per page, and it was very obnoxious and it does need to stop. But not letting them post ONCE in the thread that they are going to support a coin, or being allow to post updates when they are needed is not what is needed to curb the spam. I agree, pools need to be allowed to post at least ONCE to announce the pool's services. And TROLLS are definitely spamming the forums, they need to be banned too. |
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It is important to get on an exchange but since we've had a rocky start we want to make sure that everything is technically sound before doing so. If everything is not right things are much trickier when an exchange is involved and we would hate for investors or an exchange to lose money. Now that everything is going well we are focusing on getting the block explorer and rich list up and I will be responding to the PMs now that I have a little more time.
We're almost 3/4 of the way through PoW and with the last wallet update we added more PoW blocks to compensate for the PoS blocks that had entered so the money supply didn't end up short of our target. More updates to come soon.
dev , i lost all the coins mined before , how to fix that ? thats kinda a big amount to me  What pool were you mining on and when did you mine them? When the fork occurred HashHarder had both the longest chain and a very high majority of the hashrate so that was the chain that was chosen. Well, minerpools was on the wrong chain when the fork happened, and as I posted before, not even syncing to the main chain worked, too many people lost coins, all blocks are orphans. I can launch the pool again in about 20 mins.
EDIT: Pool's back up, all previous blocks were orphaned but it's now on the correct chain. |
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I see good and bad points from this.
The good mainly being that it might help to get rid of a lot of the "fly by night" pools that don't really offer much and/or are scams. Plus it stops some pools from over spamming threads.
The bad..
It's really going to centralize the altcoin sector much more than it already is. Smaller pools, like ourselves, struggle to get many workers as it is, and I'm guessing it's going to be much, much less from this point forwards. We HAVE to keep reminding users in threads that our pool is there, and the features we offer, or we simply don't get noticed. For example, our pool charges 0.75% for fees, which is one of the lowest around.. but in most OPs you won't see that detail - only in our ad where we list our main advantages.
What I can see happening is basically the hashrate on the few big pools, Dedicated, Suprnova, Suchpool etc, is going to increase and all the other pools are going to get fewer and fewer workers.
Why not make it so each pool can post once in each thread with their ad.. any more than once and it's spam. I don't see the problem with allowing one "ad" each. It's still not ideal for smaller pools like us but it's a bit of a compromise at least.
+1 This would be a whole lot better. |
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Hi everyone, As many of you know, pool advertising in Ann threads is banned, however, we do not know how much is it actually banned, and that's one of the reasons I'm starting this thread. Pools provide a service for both miners and coin devs, we host and provide user feedback and support most of the times, some pool ops such as ocminer have even helped developing new hashing modules. By completely banning pool anns in threads you will affect a lot of people, this is our job, hosting and managing mining pools. However it's understandable from the mods point of view that they don't want Spam on the forums, therefore here's what I propose: - Pool ops should be allowed to post once in a thread to announce a pool setup for a specific coin
- Pools should not be allowed to post several times the same info over and over again.
- Pools should not post anns with large fonts in colors and graphics, let's keep it simple and clean for everyone.
i think that by appending those small rules we can both reduce the spam on forums but without affecting so many people that would be affected by this ban. Just my 2c. |
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Seeing flound1129 coming to post here stating that he finds this new rule ridiculous I'm starting to think that it might be the most controversial rule addition bitcointalk ever had. I'm not sure if this was a univeral decision, but I can't see a way that all members of the staff would agree to this. In fact, I personally had never seen a single person complaining about updates posted by pools. They were a really small chunk of what is beeing marked as spam. And in fact, pools are a public service. Operators rely on a (usually never more than 2%) fee to maintain them. Many of them are putting out incredible efforts and deliver amazing results for the miners. It's going to be the first time I'm coming out as a rule, but I agree with flound1129. This decision not only is ridiculous, but bans the kind of posts that were some of the most usefull among the spam. Who is going to get harmed by a single update if it's in the right section? Even if it's advertising, updates about pools adding coins are really useful if you're a miner. I'm sure most of us will know what I'm talking about. If you've ever mined you know why you need to be there as early as possible. Throw your hash to a pool before the big guns arrive. etc. etc.
This new rule is bad because not only it's going to make a mine's life harder, but it's also going to favor the older and bigger pools. This way making distributed mining for smaller coins harder. Oh and please, tell me how much spam is this rule saving us from? I understand this rule sounds somewhat reasonable, but some of those updates were actually usefull! I'm saying that there's no reason for this rule to exist, I know you'll disagree. But beeing so strict about this is not giving more to this community rather than what it takes away from it.
You do realize that any advertise that they do, they are doing it for free here? You can't really complain if there are some restrictions since it is still free. Some forums do no allow any advertising whatsoever. You do realize that pools not only provide a service for low fees for all the miners but that this is also our main job and some of us have families and all? I understand and it makes complete sense to stop the SPAM on forums, however, pool should be allowed to announce our pools at least once, this allows miners to know which pools are available and they can decide to go to. Devs never add a pool on time, they usually take so long (and most miners don't even look at the OP in full) that pools in general will get a huge loss because of this new rule. It's not advertising nor spam when a pool announces on a thread, at least not on the first post, if anything should be forbidden is several posts with large fonts and graphics, but not a simple single announcement on a thread. This is something that needs to be given proper thought and planning, pools are a very important part of crypto and should not be attacked like this. |
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Hi everyone, I'd like to announce that http://ekita.minerpools.com is back up after a large scale DDOS attack, full DDOs implementation is now enabled and we'd love for our miners to return. |
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Front side down?
DDOS attack, I've just enabled full cloudflare DDOS protection on the site to help with these constant attacks. Try and refresh, it's back up. |
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I just received an email from minerpools. They've switched the subdomain because of the hacking attempts: And I can verify that it is working at http://lxci.minerpools.com Ok that is working. They could have posted here and let everyone know. Hi Mate, I didn't post anything because Mods have forbidden "pool advertising" and any pool OP could get banned for posting updates: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0 |
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So if a pool owner posts his pool in a thread... he will get banned??  How about limiting that post too 1 in each announcement thread? Im really sorry I have too say this... But this is NOT the priority you should be looking at right now with all those scamcoins around these days.. People lose money everyday over scams... But instead of helping the community, by setting stricter rules for coin announcements on here... you worry about poolowners who advertise their pools... I really cant understand this... Sorry +1 Pool ops need to be allowed to post at least ONCE on a thread, if it's more than one post then treat it as Spam and punish it, but doing this you're only affecting our jobs. Please reconsider this decision. |
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As a pool op I still think this is bullshit for the reasons I mentioned in previous posts.
Sending a PM to the dev/announcer is a crap shoot. Maybe he'll add it to the OP, maybe he won't. The only thing guaranteed is that he won't do it fast. This gives the devs control over what pools are "blessed" enough to be advertised, and us operators who put in the effort to setup a pool might get screwed by not being listed in the OP. I see a thread where everyone is complaining that all the pools are down, so I bust balls and get one setup - and have to wait on the dev to announce it in the OP? Maybe never even announce it at all? Bullshit.
This also opens the door for shady launches where one pool gets 100% of the hashrate, this will of course end up being the pool of the dev's choosing, since being the first one to post "We are up and running" in the thread will no longer be allowed. So, if I stay up until silly o'clock in the morning to make the launch and be first pool available it might just be for nothing, if the dev decides not to pay attention to his PM's, or decides he likes a different pool better and announces them first. Bullshit.
During launch, shit happens fast - pool ops need to be able to post status updates and advertise that their pool is working. Devs already have enough to do and should not have to babysit PM's and continue updating the OP for pool updates, and miners shouldn't have to keep checking back on page 1 to get those updates either.
Banning *ALL* advertisements because of a few spammers is cutting off your nose to spite your face. Don't ban the entire practice of advertising pools - do your job: moderate, and ban those abusing the forum. If it's a problem (and I agree it is) then try something else, for example:
- Ban the users blatantly and constantly spamming their pools (they are easy to find)
- Limit pool advertisements to 5 lines of 12pt text or less and one 80x80 px image
- Require pool operators to pay a modest annual fee ($20 or so?) allowing them to advertise
- Any combination of the above
Yes - you heard me - I am willing to pay for the right to advertise. I'm sure others are as well.
+1 I agree with you 100%. This is our job, and sending PMs to coin devs is useless most of the times. |
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Mod: Can we announce when the pool is up and running with the source?, this allows miners to know which pool to choose from at launch.
Also, can we answer miner's questions that usually come up in the thread directed to each of us?
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We are currently assessing the situation and will be in contact with the pool owners to resolve this issue and release an updated wallet.
It appears as though Hash Harder has the most hash and the longest chain, so that will be the chain that is chosen going forward.
We will have an update for all of you shortly.
Ok dev, please let us know when you have a solution, right now the wallet's not syncing no matter what. |
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FORK:
hashharder and minerpool are finding same blocks
minerpool seems to be alone on a fork
There are several on that fork, it has a 4gh hashrate. I've reloaded the daemon and am trying to sync to the main fork which is hasharder's (they've got 6gh of 7gh nethash so that's the main fork now) i can't sync my wallet too  Mine neither, and it's on a 1gps connection... |
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