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Dayz,
I am a pro lender, expert lender, whatever you want to call me. I will lend you all of my BTC for no collateral and really trust you will give it back, just like everybody else on the forum.
Moral of the story: quit trying with all the alt accounts. You use the same phrases in each post and you are fooling nobody.
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It's a seller's market when it comes to Bitcoin. If you want to buy BTC, you should come with cash, not Mickey Mouse payment methods like PayPal, Runescape gold, Freelancer, or whatever. Cash is king.
I can get cash but how to give to someoneelse? 
The only negative trust I have is from a better then though piece of shit his name is QuickSeller I never traded with him ignore his comments! Quickseller is obviously a scammer for leaving false feedback. Quickseller (as far as I'm concerned) is one of the furthest members you can get from a scammer. They're one of the most trusted members on the forum, so I doubt they're a scammer leaving false feedback. I'd remove that signature before you embarrass yourself. |
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As this is for bitcoins will Paypal refund you? You are on a similar thread that I started.
I'm pretty certain they will because of the whole seller protection violation garbage, I also suspect John20 may be the same person as this guy, what email did you send John20's payment to? |
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How much BTC do you need: 0.04 BTC Reason of taking loan: Gambling for fun  Your address: 19X4DfZG75TbN4TtmMTbdS1UwuH3PG6LgT Time of repayment: 3 days Collateral yes/no: No Sorry, I can't help you (in this moment). Try to ask someone else... Slightly off topic, but I must ask Redsn0w... Are you still making jailbreaks? I used to jailbreak my iPod Touch and iPhone with your tool  You are wrong, it's not my tool. Oh, I always thought it was made by Redsn0w, because it's called Redsn0w? |
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Slightly off topic, but I must ask Redsn0w... Are you still making jailbreaks? I used to jailbreak my iPod Touch and iPhone with your tool |
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Prices changed, Normal rates are equal to secondstrade. With bonus they are up to 20% higher.
I'm not sure what everyone else thinks after the raises, but those are now some pretty good rates. I would join myself now, but I'm already with secondstrade which provides the same rates  I may change in the future if I feel like it or if the payments from secondstrade go off schedule. Edit: They also underpaid me and I'm still awaiting a response after I notified them a few days ago - I may change after the next payment from them. |
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Why didn't you search his email address before sending money to him? Googling that email, comes back with this as a first result. This is what that person's trust ratings looks like: Reference Comments
Quickseller 86: -0 / +18 2015-05-18 0.00000000 Reference Newbie giving large discounts for PayPal my cash cards and refusing escrow (you need to send first of course).
I would avoid trading with this person without escrow. Tomatocage 211: -0 / +26 2015-05-09 0.00000000 PayPal Mycash scammer. I'll remove this once a pic of the receipt is posted proving these cards were paid for in cash. That's a good tip, I'll search emails in future trades like you said, the first result is a scam accusation against him. Cheers  |
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Who in their right mind would be willing to sell you large amounts of bitcoin over a long period of time? You have basically zero trading history and the chances of a chargeback is simply too high.
You should consider withdrawing to your bank account and then buying with circle.com
No one asked you? I just need it till my virwox is no longer limited to 3,000 within the 30 days there are tons of people offering Bitcoin. I have a verified business account and it has been there for years. I can provide proof of my trasnactions with Virwox and I can provide proof I have 11 BTC in/out in my wallet. This forum is full of scammers I would have to agree with you here though. Anyone who needs Paypal and has BTC would in my opinion. I have a Digital Point account from 2009 which is much more respectable than this scammer city here and it has no negative feedback. I would not take from anyone and all you Bitcoin peeps seem to think Paypal is the devil. I would be happy to use Escrow and send as friends and family to people that are Full Member and above. I have been on this forum and never scammed anyone. He actually has a very decent point. Trading so much money over PayPal so often, with a chargeback window of 180 days, you could do these deals for those 180 days an then charge back every single one of them. That's thousands of dollars you would be running with, that may not work as PayPal might see something sketchy, but you'd be able to get a tonne of it back. |
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In the future (if not already) people might just start selling accounts with A-C ratings on BTCJam and scamming people?
Anyone thought of this?
i think this is already reality, because there are many scammers even among those with a+ rating, you can't trust btcjam at all, better to lend money here and use their account as a collateral, which is the best and faster collateral you can ever get Is there a step by step tutorial in how to do this correctly without screwing up? I have some BTC that I want to start growing and I don't know how before gambling in the altcoin market, loaning seems like the only way to go, but im scared to get scammed, specially if you can't even trust A+ guys in BTCJam. For loaning, my main rule is just have decent collateral, at the moment anyway. Saying that, I've only had 1 loan request which I turned down, so I think it may be a slower process than I thought. |
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I hope you understand the reason why he wants you to cancel the case. That is, once you cancel it, it can no longer be disputed again. What was the address you sent to?
I know, I put that in the case and in the private messages to him, but he still relentlessly wants me to cancel, lol. The PayPal address was: ellenloyar@gmail.comHe also operates this website: http://btcearnerz.tk/ |
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Still awaiting BTC so I'm definitely not getting it. Also, I put 0.021 BTC in the post, it was actually 0.21 BTC ($60). PayPal case is still open with him still requesting I close the case, which isn't happening.
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I had already done a successful deal with him so was a bit surprised this time. Will try a paypal claim.
I'm sure I read a sticky on the lending board about this. They'll do a couple of small trades to build the trust, and then run without paying. That is quite given and applies everywhere. Even in your government it does happen. And I know someone who just build trust and look into trading paypal to bitcoin. Is that aimed at me CEG? |
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A bit critical reply there. How do you manage to do small trades? Exchange fees are far too high. I took a risk and lost. That happens in life. I ran my own business for 17 years and took risks,a lot more than a few dollars worth of bitcoin. I managed to retire at 54 so I must have made some correct adult descisions. For me this is a hobby at night but that does not mean I want to be scammed. I am still looking for trusted members to deal with me.
The normal rules of daily life do not apply to coin. It is absolutely nothing like running a normal business in a normal society on a normal day. There, sure, people "take risks," like using their last line of credit to open a coffee shop in a busy metro area. But coin isn't anything like the normal "risk-taking" that happens in normal, civilized society. I shouldn't need to elaborate. I agree, it's common sense, I was referring to a source. If everybody knew it, there wouldn't need to be a sticky, so some people are clearly just getting into BTC and are still learning about it. No need to act like that about it, I seriously worry for your social skills.
My social inadequacies aside, we need to stop the song and dance stuck on replay here. I don't know why the mods think the current situation is acceptable. There needs to be one central thread for this same old shit that keeps happening, titled: "Post here if you have no rep whatsoever and yet still expect to do a trade with paypal/dwolla/PM/okpay and any other reversible payment methods," with the first post specifically stating that the individual should not expect anyone to trade with them. Merge all future "$28013981023 paypal for your 0.05btc I won't scam pinky promise" threads with that one. Done. The board just got 95% cleaner and I can then SEE all the threads that are actually trying to start serious trades. Well I've been trading fine with PP. Yes, I could chargeback as I type this, but I don't plan to (which means nothing to you, Im the only one that can believe that). Currently, the loaning board is flooded with newbies asking for no collateral loans, so I have to agree that we do need to cut the crap with all the scammers at the moment. How we go about that though, is the debatable. |
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I had already done a successful deal with him so was a bit surprised this time. Will try a paypal claim.
I'm sure I read a sticky on the lending board about this. They'll do a couple of small trades to build the trust, and then run without paying. You don't need to read a sticky. It's common fucking sense. Seriously, how do some of you guys get by in life? I really hope this board is just like 80% children and you all aren't actually making adult decisions on a daily basis. If so, I seriously worry for your well-being and for the well-being of those you are responsible for. Please try to educate yourselves on how to think critically. It will pay dividends 1000x greater than any amount you could ever make off coin in 100 years. I agree, it's common sense, I was referring to a source. If everybody knew it, there wouldn't need to be a sticky, so some people are clearly just getting into BTC and are still learning about it. No need to act like that about it, I seriously worry for your social skills. |
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I had already done a successful deal with him so was a bit surprised this time. Will try a paypal claim.
I'm sure I read a sticky on the lending board about this. They'll do a couple of small trades to build the trust, and then run without paying. |
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Bumping...
Hi Op, today is august 2nd. Time to come back and repay your debt.
I have an awkward feeling OP isn't coming back. |
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Post updated with some new guidelines, the request template is now in a code window and the terms for Escrow are now included in the post. This also serves as a bump |
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My first payment from the campaign, cheers |
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Flaw? Please learn how thing work before enabling these bottom feeding scammers again. There is no flaw.
There is a flaw. Everyone he tries to scam can claim their money back, providing they're not stupid. everyone can claim, but there is no guarantee that paypal accept your claim. There is not a 100% chance PayPal will give the money back, but it's pretty high I think? I'm pretty sure PayPal doesn't allow seller protection for cryptocurrency and that's why it's such a huge risk for the recipient. |
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Would I be accepted? I've been given negative feedback as warning I could scam people, but not because I actually have scammed someone?
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