Thanks for the replies. Do people still scam if they give decent collateral? I was planning on asking for collateral with every trade anyway, I think it would push away most scammers, but not all of them... I need some BTC first to be honest, I lost it all a while ago and have only just got back into it. Trying to trade, but my member status and ability to trust complete strangers is holding me back a little
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If there is a chance of you being scammed then you will surly be scammed. Only ever loan Bitcoin if you can get a trusted 3rd party to hold collateral at 110%-120% of the value of the loan, which will at least cover you when they default. I doubt it is very profitable in all honesty.
Ah okay, thanks. But what really is collateral? If someone says they'll give a domain name for example, how do I know that really is worth more than the loan?
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Hi, So something I've been thinking about is lending Bitcoin. For me to conduct trades over Bitcoin Talk, I usually ask the other party pays first (which usually means the trades fall through). - Is it actually profitable?
- Will I get scammed to death?
Cheers.
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Name: Fishbones78 Post count: 38 Rank: Jr. Member Bitcoin address: 12ni588gxUPvbMuZVcZZDDFZqkEa6xTg96
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I am indeed looking at his sent feedback, sorry CEG. I would be willing to use a trusted Escrow, thanks for the explanation. However, I don't see how an Escrow would stop me charging the sellerback through PayPal in a week or so, it would only protect me, not the seller?
Pretty much; essentially, only you as the buyer would end up being protected in this case, not the seller (since Bitcoin is not reversible, and Paypal is) - the escrow will ensure both BTC and Paypal payments are transferred to the other party, but there is basically nothing he can do to protect against chargebacks. I see, thanks for the explanation! I've applied for a trade on a well trusted members post, CEG traded with them a couple of hours ago himself
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Hi, If you're still selling, I would like to make a small trade for $5 USD (I'd have to send £3.21, I'm in the UK) for some Bitcoin. PM me if you're interested please
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I tried to contact him for the exchange and he said that my trust ratings are 'risky'. @op - You consider sending paypal first as risky? It is risky ON MY END because bitcoin is irreversible. With everaja's warning, TRADE with EXTREME CAUTION. I agree this is risky for the seller, but your trust doesn't seem to be 100% positive. I recently lost all of my Bitcoin (tell me about it) and left it behind for a little while, hence my inactivity and password reset. I would be willing to trade through Escrow, but I have no idea how :/ Hmm, maybe I'm missing something, but CEG5952's trust rating seems to be quite positive - not default trust positive, but positive nonetheless. He has no negative feedback on his account that I can see; maybe you are confusing his "sent feedback" with the feedback he received? At any rate, if you do find someone willing to take the risk of trading BTC for Paypal, and you do want to deal with that someone, be sure to contact an escrow (contact one of the users featured in the following thread, for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0). They will guide you through the process (and it should be fairly simple and straightforward: the seller sends the BTC to the escrow; you send the Paypal payment to the seller; escrow sends you the BTC). I am indeed looking at his sent feedback, sorry CEG. I would be willing to use a trusted Escrow, thanks for the explanation. However, I don't see how an Escrow would stop me charging the sellerback through PayPal in a week or so, it would only protect me, not the seller?
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I really fear that this account is bought or Hacked one !! May or may not be !! but it is highly recommend to you to change the Trading medium from Paypal to other , Something that i can see on your Profile : "Trust summary for Fishbones78 This user's password was reset recently."
I tried to contact him for the exchange and he said that my trust ratings are 'risky'. @op - You consider sending paypal first as risky? It is risky ON MY END because bitcoin is irreversible. With everaja's warning, TRADE with EXTREME CAUTION. I agree this is risky for the seller, but your trust doesn't seem to be 100% positive. I recently lost all of my Bitcoin (tell me about it) and left it behind for a little while, hence my inactivity and password reset. I would be willing to trade through Escrow, but I have no idea how :/
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Hi, I would like to buy $5 of BTC through PayPal. I fully understand why PayPal is such a huge deterrent for sellers, but it is my only option right now. I could pay through Escrow, but I have no idea how to use it and how to conduct BTC trades through it so it would be a bit of a grey area and may lead to the transaction taking longer than usual, which i'm not really looking for. The even more scam-like part you ask? I would like the BTC before I send payment regardless of reputation, I recently read a post about a few people getting scammed on here due to a well trusted account getting into the wrong hands (it was sold). If you're remotely interested, let me know how much you offer for my $5 in this thread Cheers.
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Fishbones78 Cheers
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Hi, Selling Mount & Blade: Warband with Napoleonic Wars DLC. Currently listed on the steam store at £23 (0.12 BTC) I ask 0.08 BTC for the game and DLC. The price is negotiable. I ask payment first (I have SOME trust feedback, but not lots), unless the buyer is a VERY senior member with VERY good trust feedback, but payment first is pretty much required. Proof I have the game and DLC is in the attached image, you can see i have the same steam username as my forum name. Drop a reply if you're interested and I will PM you . Image: https://unsee.cc/rizomade/
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Hi, I was wondering, is a MultiBit created wallet compatible with Bitcoin-QT? What are the dangers of having a "lite" wallet like MultiBit? I'm thinking of getting myself a secure wallet for me to deposit into (a savings wallet) but I would rather it be in MultiBit than Bitcoin-QT. This is because if I plug it in once a year to withdraw (the savings wallet) I don't want to have to download the whole blockchain...
Thanks
Multibit is opensource and only downloads about 1-30 MB depending on the number of transactions you ve done. Multibit isn't more risky than the QT when it's about losing your coins. And reinitializing the blockchain in Multibit, in case of key-import takes also "ages" because the client has to go through the whole chain if no start-point is definied. remember, the biggest risk to lose bitcoins is the person infront of the computer. If you want to use bitcoin as a longterm investment i d recommend you to transfer the coins to a cold wallet and hide the private-key (printed & digital[offline]) at a secure place. If you want to keep them on your computer make sure he s clean. Antivirus, Firewall & Co. will help you minimizing the risk to lose coins. Don't install/run unverified software. Try compiling your own wallets. Don't use download-URL's from forums/advertising and other 3rd party websites. Always be sceptical and check everything multiple times. cheers, bitsta Thanks for the tips, I'll create a new wallet on a rarely used computer of mine (old windows XP thing, formatted it a couple of weeks back and has been used for around 10 minutes since) and then move it over to a freshly formatted USB stick and optical disk. Then I'll stick the private key to the disc and drive
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I wouldn't recommend to store / transfer a wallet through the internet. But if you want to have a online backup, then please don't use Google Drive or Dropbox, better use Spideroak or your own cloud. Always encrypt it, maybe create a TC container with a strong password (alternatively Winrar). Good luck Thanks
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Hi, Good question, I told you it was a little sketchy I have 0.0009. I was wondering what he would want back - if I can't currently afford it I'm obviously not going to accept the loan. If I can't be trusted that's fine, I was just testing the water... You are new to this forum, people would scam someone for even less than a dollar. Anything of value that you do not have access to until you have repaid me can be collateral. There are exceptions to be made but these are only for established members, who have a track record. Since you do not have one, I would require collateral. Also please read threads when you reply, it clearly states the information I need to make a discussion. For example you do not explain when you will pay back your loan, nor do you propose an interest rate. Please read the thread, and reply accordingly, especially when you do increase in your activity on this forum, people will look back at your past posts in order to make decisions, it would look best if you have quality posts. If you can think of something you do have to offer as collateral I might reconsider. Sure, thanks anyway. I was just seeing if you would allow it although I see where you're coming from.
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Hi, Good question, I told you it was a little sketchy I have 0.0009. I was wondering what he would want back - if I can't currently afford it I'm obviously not going to accept the loan. If I can't be trusted that's fine, I was just testing the water...
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Hi, Sounds silly but are you willing to give a loan of 0.00025BTC? I can't give collateral as I'm just starting out in the BTC world. Completely understand if you're not up for it as it does sound a little fishy Thanks
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Hi, I was wondering, is a MultiBit created wallet compatible with Bitcoin-QT? What are the dangers of having a "lite" wallet like MultiBit? I'm thinking of getting myself a secure wallet for me to deposit into (a savings wallet) but I would rather it be in MultiBit than Bitcoin-QT. This is because if I plug it in once a year to withdraw (the savings wallet) I don't want to have to download the whole blockchain...
Thanks
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Kinda struggling to get off of my feet with Bitcoin (I don't buy it, I waste hours of my life using Bitvisitor etc.)
A measly 0.00092019 BTC.
Not exactly dangerous to share that kind of balance...
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Hi, Thank you for all of the replies, I have had the wallet encrypted and sent to me. The wallet was my "spending" wallet and so it never has anything too valuable inside anyway (I have a savings wallet that is in "cold storage" (if that's the correct term)). Thanks guys
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What encryption is concerned: it depends. The wallet will be only as secure as the encryption you used to encrypt it beforehand. If you don't encrypt it at all, there's no safety whatsoever. People using a truly random one-time-pad may be completely safe. Oh, important: Never let a computer on the Internet that is able to decrypt the wallet (has the key to decrypt the wallet), since if that computer is compromised your wallet has to be considered compromised, as well.
Hi, Thanks for the tip, I currently store my wallet on a flash drive that I carry around with me. I'll have a try at your idea when I get my wallet back. Thanks
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