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861  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Circle be doing any prime time Television Ad? Here's why they must on: October 02, 2014, 11:25:54 AM

With all due respect, what planet are you living on that Television commercials are "old" to you?  Are you serious?  Do you know why they cost so much?   Because they reach tens of millions of people, all at the same time, and they are effective.  

Bitcoin has been nothing but "social media and memes" for the last 5 years and look where we are today with consumer adoption.   ZILCH.  

Nobody knows a damn thing about it *because* its just all of us circle jerking on YouTube and Discussion Forums.

The real advertisers advertise on television.  Anyone who thinks advertising on youtube is more effective than a prime time television ad ... well ... holy crap how out of touch can you get?

-B-

I understand you point, but there are a growing number of people that just don't watch TV anymore.  Well.... not traditional TV.  They might have Apple TV or Netflix.  

I am kind of an outlier because of my position, but I stopped watching TV years ago.  I think there are not many of us, but we are growing.  

But yes, definitely TV is still the best medium for advertisement.  I think that might change in 10-20 years
Unless you are advertising on something that is highly anticipated and will primarily be watched live, advertising on TV is not a good investment anymore. There are too many services that allow you to record TV shows and skip commercials, either systematically or manually.

I think the circle will likely want to use word of mouth as much as they can to grow their user base as they have delayed their launch to the public to increase anticipation of their services

redbull stratos was a live event that lasted hours of promotion and millions of viewers. the result was only a 3% growth of cans of redbull sold.. proof that TV is not as powerful as the 1990's.

TV only works on the weak minded people like old grannies on the shopping channel and children on mtv.

with that said coinbase is not advertising on shopping channels or normal prime TV channels. instead they know bitcoin is in the phase one innovation and investment stage, so right now they are talking to places like Bloomberg magazine.

right now promotions should be aimed at merchants and investment, not everyday joe bloggs who will just get pissy that they cant use bitcoin at 7-11 or walmart or amazon.. much like the latest influx of noobs are doing right now in the last 6 months.

bitcoin is not ready for the mad rush of noob average joes. they will all end up disappointed as they dont realise bitcoin is still in the innovation stage


I get everyone's point on here, and I think you're all sort of right one way or another.
Ads cost a lot, and maybe the world is not ready yet, alright.
But would it hurt to come up with some ideas for Pr stunts? Many Pr stunts are praticallly free, so no need to appoint a fund manager. No risk at all. Come on, I'm sure you guys can think of a few random ideas?
862  Other / Off-topic / Re: Am I the only girl on here? : ( on: October 02, 2014, 11:13:44 AM
That's great, they should join this forum! : )
863  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Circle be doing any prime time Television Ad? Here's why they must on: October 01, 2014, 10:52:04 PM
you didn't read my post properly you moron

Your social skills are embarrassing.

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Do you even know what a Pr stunt is?

No.  Im a moron remember?

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What I meant is TV commercials are NOT THE ONLY WAY ANYMORE.

And?  This thread is about crowd funding a TV commercial.  Everybody already knows "there are other ways".  

Do you even know what crowd funding is?

If you want to make a Circle PR stunt thread, be my guest.  

I promise I wont go into it and hijack it by babbling about every irrelevant exception I can think of, just so I can feel smart.

-B-

It was just a term of endearment u silly hedgehog
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864  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are your HOBBIES? on: October 01, 2014, 07:21:44 PM
Mooing at people. Moooooooooo!


hahahaha. thanks for cheering me up x
865  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Circle be doing any prime time Television Ad? Here's why they must on: October 01, 2014, 07:18:01 PM

With all due respect, what planet are you living on that Television commercials are "old" to you?  Are you serious?  Do you know why they cost so much?   Because they reach tens of millions of people, all at the same time, and they are effective.  

Bitcoin has been nothing but "social media and memes" for the last 5 years and look where we are today with consumer adoption.   ZILCH.  

Nobody knows a damn thing about it *because* its just all of us circle jerking on YouTube and Discussion Forums.

The real advertisers advertise on television.  Anyone who thinks advertising on youtube is more effective than a prime time television ad ... well ... holy crap how out of touch can you get?

-B-

I understand you point, but there are a growing number of people that just don't watch TV anymore.  Well.... not traditional TV.  They might have Apple TV or Netflix.  

I am kind of an outlier because of my position, but I stopped watching TV years ago.  I think there are not many of us, but we are growing.  

But yes, definitely TV is still the best medium for advertisement.  I think that might change in 10-20 years

@Bittburger. I agree with your point, you didn't read my post properly you moron Smiley What I meant is TV commercials are NOT THE ONLY WAY ANYMORE. There are cheaper ways like, I was thinking about Pr stunts, making it into the news or something big time, with very little cost. Do you even know what a Pr stunt is? All we need is a great idea and we're good to go.
Pls read my post again, I already said I wasn't expecting youtube "viral gimmiks", flash mobs or kitten memes.

@Jabo38 you're right, lots of ppl dont watch tv anymore. But Tv is still the best way to reach a wide audience. However, ads... they cost a lot of money, which we don't have. I say we come up with a Pr stunt, am I the only person on here who's aware of what Pr stunts can do? Is anyone else on here experienced Pr-wise? Guyssss, have a little faith, Pr stunts are the way forward. Thanks to the internet and networking we can organize something for no money, we just need everyone to come up with some cool random ideas, come on guys.
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866  Other / Off-topic / Re: Am I the only girl on here? : ( on: October 01, 2014, 06:54:56 PM
I was at a meetup yesterday and a girl was there Smiley
I think day by day involvement of girls are increasing. What do you think?
I don't really know because I only know of one girl who uses Bitcoin at all Tongue Then again, I only know like 10 guys who use it.

Well, I'm a girl so make it two : )
867  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Circle be doing any prime time Television Ad? Here's why they must on: October 01, 2014, 12:26:24 AM

Great post.  Whoever originally wrote this [on reddit named BitttBurger] must be a genius among men!!

All joking aside, thanks for reposting this.  When I start seeing Bitcoin commercials I am going to jump up from my couch and cheer.

Because that's when shit gets real.

-B-

Bitcoin commercials on television, where the hell are we, the 50's???
There are plenty of ways to raise awareness! PR stunts are way cheaper than prime time tv ads. and WAY more fun, and fresh, and young, and new and everything. Not gonna suggest a flash mob or some video of a kitten dressed like a btc to go viral on youtube but come on, creativity guys, come on!!! can't we come up with something epic!? whos with me?
868  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly labs on: October 01, 2014, 12:21:32 AM


If you payed with a credit card try a chargeback.


thanks but bah, bought it from someone on ebay (months and months ago)
869  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Circle be doing any prime time Television Ad? Here's why they must on: September 30, 2014, 10:52:57 PM
Smiley
870  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Circle be doing any prime time Television Ad? Here's why they must on: September 30, 2014, 10:02:11 PM

That's the whole point of publicity, making things attractive and desirable. i.e. a debit card is just a piece of plastic, but throw some adverts with hot girls in a hot tub in paris and suddenly average joe wants to apply for one.Throw a couple of cute meerkats in there and I want one too.

all you care about is people buying coin. you dont care about the bitcoin infrustructure, usage, features of bitcoin... you just want a price spike..

seriously your mindset is still in the pump and dump and run back to fiat land with a bank account full of bank notes, i do not believe one bit that you truly understand bitcoin and its benefits vs fiat

lol, I totally understand btc and its benefits. I think a spike would be nice but I'm way more excited about the blockchain concept itself. And that's why we need to spread the word about it, its genious.
871  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Circle be doing any prime time Television Ad? Here's why they must on: September 30, 2014, 07:53:44 PM

....more work needs to be done to make bitcoin practical for average joe to buy rent/groceries(real lifestyle )
PLEASE will people stop thinking that advertising is needed for user adoption purely for a price rise, and think more about bitcoin adoption due to usability and desire to actually want bitcoin.

Average joes use western union all the time. Fact. We don't have to wait for piggly wiggles to come on board. Come on. And please stop being so against advertising. we need PR! Urgent! I promise you it will make a difference.
Advert for coca cola = instant desire to actually want coca cola...

You were saying..??


The thing is bitcoin is not attractive to the "average joe". We need to make it attractive!

That's the whole point of publicity, making things attractive and desirable. i.e. a debit card is just a piece of plastic, but throw some adverts with hot girls in a hot tub in paris and suddenly average joe wants to apply for one.Throw a couple of cute meerkats in there and I want one too.
872  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Bikini Contest [BITKINI CONTEST] on: September 30, 2014, 07:49:29 PM
Oh god, is that you? LOL.
I think donations are a great idea in general, for everything and anything, not just for naked girls, like, that guy wore a bikini (if its him) and that deserves some kudos, dont you think?
I think the future of music and art could be linked to donations too. A way to show appreciation through donations.
Donating to girls in a bikini doesnt make any sense, just google bikini pics and you get tons of pics to look at.
873  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Circle be doing any prime time Television Ad? Here's why they must on: September 30, 2014, 07:16:42 PM

....more work needs to be done to make bitcoin practical for average joe to buy rent/groceries(real lifestyle )
PLEASE will people stop thinking that advertising is needed for user adoption purely for a price rise, and think more about bitcoin adoption due to usability and desire to actually want bitcoin.

Average joes use western union all the time. Fact. We don't have to wait for piggly wiggles to come on board. Come on. And please stop being so against advertising. we need PR! Urgent! I promise you it will make a difference.
Advert for coca cola = instant desire to actually want coca cola...

You were saying..??
874  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Bikini Contest [BITKINI CONTEST] on: September 30, 2014, 07:06:04 PM
Yea, I had the same idea, with the same name for a site, where they post for bitcoin. Similar to what was on reddit a while ago. Put a QR code on the bikini and people donate if they like it.

To proof if it's really them, people on the site, can ask for a specific pose, as proof.

A perfect opportunity to make some extra money, and you do not have to go nude or semi-nude. Have a age restriction, if you really want to protect under age people from doing this, but they pose on other platforms in any way, so nobody will be able to stop anyone from posting clothed pictures. Site moderators just delete any underage looking pictures, before they are posted on the site.

Have a competition for men too, to make things fair to both sexes.  Grin Grin

I think this was frowned on, when it was on reddit though.. but I think that was nude pictures.

Lol, there are loads of bikini pics of me online already anyone can see for free, why would anyone pay to see the same thing?
875  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Bikini Contest [BITKINI CONTEST] on: September 30, 2014, 01:58:05 PM
Haha I thought bitkini sounded like a cute idea... i'd wear swim top with bitcoins :-)

Have you learned nothing? If we wear bitcoin bikini tops everyone will assume we are bitwhores. If you're not a bitwhore, don't wear that. However, if you are a bitwhore, you can totally wear that, my apologies. Oh and make sure you upload your naked pics to reddit!
876  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin PR effort on: September 30, 2014, 12:32:56 AM

How about PR stunts to raise awareness? It's the easiest way. Why don't we try to come up with some ideas for this?

PR stunts are fame for 5 minutes..

take the PR stunt of redbull.. redbull stratos.. (skydive from space)

then look at redbulls growth of business since then..

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A total of 5.387 billion cans of Red Bull were sold worldwide in 2013, representing an increase of 3.1% against an already very successful 2012.

=3.1% increase.

without any PR at all bitcoins market cap moves more than 3% a week as it is.


It DOES make a difference. Sales increase do not equal AWARENESS. Plus, we don't need sales for btc, we need awareness, I'm a PR expert, I know what I'm talking about, trust me. Would you consider skydiving from space in a bitcoin logo suit? I would chip in for that : )
877  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin PR effort on: September 29, 2014, 08:46:02 PM

How about PR stunts to raise awareness? It's the easiest way. Why don't we try to come up with some ideas for this?
878  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly labs on: September 29, 2014, 08:37:41 PM
i think the doors are locked and their bank accounts are frozen, so no deliveries, no refunds until a court verdict is given. then id probably expect that you would need to verify your order with a trustee.

the chances of them being allowed to continue as they were and left to simply fix the issues themselves is long passed. they were warned months ago to start shipping on time or refund customers a few months ago (meaning they should have sent goods out or refunded customers within the first month of the warning.

so dont expect anything arriving at your door or bank account this week

Thanks! I know not to expect anything this week but I was wondering roughly when..? Would they get in touch with me or do I have to chase someone? a trustee? how does that even work? 
Thanks again for the info, I'll keep checking on here!
879  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Bikini Contest [BITKINI CONTEST] on: September 29, 2014, 08:30:37 PM
This is an important factor that not all the BTC using people are tech people...so if we want to involve every types of people.... We need this sort of innovative ideas....

Innovative ideas is the only way forward, PR is so important, it can mark the beginning and/or the end of pretty much everything. I wiish there were more girls on here, we are really good at PR and coming up with innovative promoting ideas, Pr stunts, etc etc.
880  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly labs on: September 29, 2014, 08:24:55 PM
I saw today news here http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoin about butterfly labs, 2 days ago also so keep looking here

Thanks Velkro, I read that link all the time, I was mainly wondering if some of you are in the same situation? x
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