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121  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 09:41:24 PM

From a technical perspective you know a lot more than they do or probably ever will. Why don't you just run your own farm, buy some Spondoolies or whatever, and control your own fate? You actually have the technical expertise to do it, unlike these jokers. I bet you could probably actually wire an IP camera on the farm too (wow, that would be a first).

Well I made the calculations about buying some SP30's and it was really not very profitable to have them hosted in a data center and I really don't have the space or power requirements to do this at home. So the only next alternative was cloud hosting. And I got that from GAW with buying a war machine and later converting it to hashlets.

Unlike many of the hashtalkers, you are not someone who is only capable of "clicking amps" once a day to maximize your returns. You can actually do it.

I just don't understand the reason why people who are smart and competent are buying into this. Hell, I bet you could start your own coin too and it might actually have a new feature or two and not just be a total hype machine. You apparently can at least read the c++ wallet source code which is by far more than most on HT.

Yes i really could do this but making a coin is easy. The difficult part is making a coin that is successful. And that is exactly what GAW is trying to do. The implementation of their plans are not very good but at least they try to do something different and new.

Most coins that come on the market have no backing no community nothing they really start from nothing and most of them fail because everybody tries to pump and dump it.

Agree to disagree.

But I will say I think you are pretty much a stand-up guy and I appreciate your fair and thoughtful responses. You are welcome here anytime. I myself like to see both sides of the coin, lol. If for any reason you think we are wrong, be sure to let us know why. We always need someone to keep us honest too.
122  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 09:29:54 PM
Just sayin'

Oh jesus, don't do that. That reminds of redacted and his #JustSaying crap. lol.
123  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 09:23:50 PM
why are you betting so hard on these guys?

I don't know because the idea of a complete platform appeals to me. Because this is the first cloud staking platform?
I mined a block of BTC in 2010 and promptly forgot about it until it spiked in november 2013 I have invested these in numerous stuff and never got any good return from it. I bought a hosted war machine from GAW for $6999 in BTC and when the price dropped the next day I complained and got a partial refund for that. Then came the hashlets and the return was good. it went downhill from there because of diff changes and BTC price tanking. I already had a break even and reinvested everything again. I really don't care If I get any return from this but I like the idea of cloud staking and the direction that GAW is going.

You sound like a knowledgable IT guy to me. Can't you tell these guys barely know what the fuck they're doing and I'm not talking about any of the "failed promise" antics, I'm just talking purely from a technical perspective: they are absolutely incompetent.

I mean, what did you really think of that pathetic Paybase release?

Zencloud first.
They made bad choices about the platform From what I can see this is based on nodejs. Now I did some developement in nodejs and could see immediately that the single thread stuff would cause large problems with performance unless very strong measures where taken like running multiple instances and very big load balancing. Second bad choise was the DB backend I suspect from all the errors and mistakes they are using nosql instead of a proper transactional DB. nosql and relations are a big nono it takes too much programing to maintain referential integrity. I think they finally changed the DB backend a few months ago and since then it has been stable. But it is still nodejs.

Paybase is supposedly developed by an outside company they choose PHP as a frontend so I expect them to use something more stable and more robust as a backend mysql or postgresql. Paybase is by no means complete or what it should have been it feels like something thrown together at the last minute. (Indie developers?)

They are really young in development and implementation but they are learning fast. And they are trying to do good for their customers even though they make a lot of mistakes.

From a technical perspective you know a lot more than they do or probably ever will. Why don't you just run your own farm, buy some Spondoolies or whatever, and control your own fate? You actually have the technical expertise to do it, unlike these jokers. I bet you could probably actually wire an IP camera on the farm too (wow, that would be a first).

Unlike many of the hashtalkers, you are not someone who is only capable of "clicking amps" once a day to maximize your returns. You can actually do it.

I just don't understand the reason why people who are smart and competent are buying into this. Hell, I bet you could start your own coin too and it might actually have a new feature or two and not just be a total hype machine. You apparently can at least read the c++ wallet source code which is by far more than most on HT.
124  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 08:44:04 PM
The only thing I see is the infighting in the community whether it is directed at GAW or any other crypto company. This really does show the world that crypto is far from ready to be mainstream. Once the infighting stops then people will start to pay attention and this is not because it was directed to GAW. The publications on that website with all the numerous articles about crypto stand out and have some good information but it is completely diminished with the infighting that some of those articles do and the GAW article is not the only one.

You're making it sound like there is no "infighting" in the "mainstream". There is criticism and sharp opinions everywhere, as there should be. Making every site publish only company press releases wouldn't make the problems go away, unless you would like to argue that there are no problems with GAW. Face it, the CEO was caught lying and pumping and scrubbing, so getting some flack on the interwebs is not entirely unexpected. We're not in October anymore when all those pesky "proof of mining" questions could have been labeled as trolls making unreasonable demands to an innovative company. There are far more serious questions now.

How about this one? Better?

http://www.coindesk.com/gaw-miners-paycoin-disappearing-20-floor/


Yes I read it and he really believed he could deliver the $20 floor. And from what I see he intends to keep that promise. How he intends to do this is still unclear. But this could be an indication. https://hashtalk.org/topic/28364/

Daffy, why are you betting so hard on these guys? You sound like a knowledgable IT guy to me. Can't you tell these guys barely know what the fuck they're doing and I'm not talking about any of the "failed promise" antics, I'm just talking purely from a technical perspective: they are absolutely incompetent.

I mean, what did you really think of that pathetic Paybase release?
125  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 08:01:00 PM

Seriously? regardless of where the articles was posted on CT the article is clearly labeled an opinion piece.

Concerning Garza, TNABC and Bitcoin Media: ‘Down with Everything Associated with Anyone’ (Op-Ed)

Opinion or news does it really matter it is still a call to arms and an invitation to riot. And people keep wondering why the crypto industry is failing. No established company is eager to step in that hornest nest.

If people expressing opinions bothers you so much perhaps you should just keep your Daffy ass at HT and not read things outside of anything that is approved by the cult that you belong to. Problem solved.

It's okay. Honest ponzis like crypto double are willing to step up where Gaw is failing.
126  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 07:56:10 AM
It is like watching a live circus, one guy finally "gets it" and wants out, they swamp him with you will agree using a credit card is the easiest way for a new person to get into crypto ... a fee is something you should expect for something to be easier  whatever  etc. Holy Shit.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28399/gawminers-has-become-gaw-bank

Biggest joke of all is right on the front of paybase.com itself:

Quote
Money has changed.

Credit cards haven’t. PayBase saves you money by letting you bypass
costly credit networks by sending and receiving money directly

Yes, and we finally get to watch the circus uninterrupted cause it seems they have finally given up the idea that they can control the forums like Soviet Russia. Them nuking rootdude out of the game gives us the fireworks finally as they clash!
127  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 07:31:48 AM
So what's this I hear about paybase charging a hidden 10% fee on credit card purchases?

lmfao...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28400/paybase-cc-purchase-vanished/29
128  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 03:44:25 AM


129  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 02:43:38 AM

It's like a dream that never dies
Paycoin spreads its wings and flies
I mean spreads its volva and writhes
It's like a cancer spread on toast
Tastes so good then you're a ghost

Never have I seen a friend
as true as Homero in the end
He will make us rich one day
cock to anus we will stay
Hashtalking on our merry way



130  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 02:30:05 AM
So was that it? A pump up to $4 Huh

im honestly not sure why i stay here. i guess im just bored and want to see homero or somebody jailed. LOL
I'm here for the obvious market manipulation and fraud lol. Plus it's fun to see tens of thousands of dollars go into a useless coin that people pump based on the CEO posting a "repurchase at $20 program" thread and then delete is instantly.

I am here for free hookers and coke.
131  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 02:22:28 AM
Price is rising on cryptsy. It's at .0137 now.

132  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 02:17:00 AM
This showed up, and then was deleted too quickly for anyone to read it:



GAW has posted a new topic: $20 repurchase program!

Lots of excitement:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28364/20-repurchase-program/

Going up on the exchanges!

Little do they know that the "$20 repurchase program" is that GAW takes away your XPY on paybase, then gives you the option of repurchasing it at $20 to prove your faith.


He doesn't say what they are purchasing. It might be those worthless primes for $20 each lol.
133  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 02:12:28 AM
Credit card purchasing works now! $300 limit?
Yay. Just what everyone needed, another option to buy shitcoin! Cheesy And probably all their credit card data stolen...

The faithful are buying like it's crack...
https://hashtalk.org/topic/28354/pay-by-credit-card-now-live/2

Someone on that thread posted they were using Stripe as their processor.

Check this out: https://stripe.com/us/prohibited-businesses

Quote
The following categories of businesses and business practices are prohibited from using the Stripe Service (“Prohibited Businesses”). Most Prohibited Business categories are imposed by Card Network rules or the requirements of our banking providers or processors. The types of businesses listed in the right column are representative, but not exhaustive. If you are uncertain as to whether your business is a Prohibited Business, or have questions about how these requirements apply to you, please contact us.

By registering for Stripe, you are confirming that you will not use the Service to accept payments in connection with the following businesses, business activities or business practices.

Financial and professional services

Investment & credit services: Securities brokers; mortgage consulting or debt reduction services; credit counseling or repair; real estate opportunities; lending instruments

Money and legal services: Money transmitters, check cashing, wire transfers, money orders; currency exchanges or dealers; bail bonds; collections agencies; law firms collecting funds for any purpose other than to pay fees owed to the firm for services provided by the firm (e.g., firms cannot use Stripe to hold client funds, collection or settlement amounts, disputed funds, etc.)

Virtual currency or stored value:   Virtual currency that can be monetized, resold, or converted to physical or digital products and services or otherwise exit the virtual world (e.g., Bitcoin); sale of stored value or credits maintained, accepted and issued by anyone other than the seller

So what kind of bullshit are they using to get around the prohibited business rule?

We will have to see. Apparently the credit card transactions haven't actually gone through yet. More decepticon?
134  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 02:08:11 AM
What blows my mind is how fkin happy these people are that now they can use a cc to buy a coin that they can't do anything with.

I mean just go read one of those threads and see how elated they are. Absolutely amazing.

I guess I need to get in the scamming business? It seems there are idiots all over the world willing to throw money at you for months on end for no apparent rhyme or reason. Huh

Well guys, it turns out there may be a catch. It's GAW so you always have to watch out for those.

You can buy with your credit card, but it appears no one has actually got their XPY yet. The transaction is stuck at 'pending' for all of those who ordered for like over an hour or however long since the feature has been online.

So yeah another perfect paybase feature release. Nice testing there guys!

If you look towards the second half of this thread, you will see all the people starting to complain
https://hashtalk.org/topic/28354/pay-by-credit-card-now-live/118
135  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 01:29:27 AM
Good way to get BTC via CC
Just dump that shit xpy.
Hackers are already buying and dumping with stolen CC data as we speak I'm sure. It's a 0 sum game though, what they buy they'll just dump for BTC.

Yeah someone already said this will replace Circle for them. What this is gonna do is put downward pressure on the price of XPY as they dump. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
136  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 08, 2015, 01:15:49 AM
Credit card purchasing works now! $300 limit?
Yay. Just what everyone needed, another option to buy shitcoin! Cheesy And probably all their credit card data stolen...

The faithful are buying like it's crack...
https://hashtalk.org/topic/28354/pay-by-credit-card-now-live/2
137  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 07, 2015, 11:42:12 PM


The Hash King
138  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 07, 2015, 09:39:14 PM
Paragraph after paragraph of nothingness... to ultimately end up with this:

Quote
In the end, however, we know that the marketplace controls the price of the coin . . . but when enough people come together, and when that scenario seems very much achievable, the $20 valuation is quite fair.


The underlined part is their really poor attempt at an excuse.  And it's not true if they have funds to support a coin buy-back.

The bolded part is just more nonsense to say that they will not honor a floor that they specifically said they would.


All of the blog post is just a big dance around the issue.  They didn't provide any technical reasons why they couldn't support a floor,

https://blog.paybase.com/paycoin-and-the-20-base-an-overview/

official term: gobbledygook
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibberish
139  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 07, 2015, 09:25:55 PM
Has this been posted already??

http://www.coindesk.com/gaw-miners-paycoin-disappearing-20-floor/

Great article.

Out of all the users on this thread, Dekay gets a link, lmfao.
140  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 07, 2015, 08:33:39 PM
just checked i am still banned,looks like @daffy is selling off his account bit by bit via Pms my friend just bought loads of stakers and primes of him,rats deserting a sinking ship

If you knew anything about how zencloud functions you would know it is impossible to sell an account bit by bit because there is no way to transfer hashlets or for that matter stakers to other accounts. And the staker market is not open yet so where do you get your information from? Your source is very suspect.

Daffy, you are gonna get banned for talking to us. Watch out. We are dangerous apparently.
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