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281  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 30, 2014, 07:53:05 AM
Soooo looks like I was right about the launch being a failure?

If the site isn't up somewhere where some insider users are testing it heavily as we speak (which means the connections to the exchange should already be online) I just don't see it happening any time soon. You can rarely just turn these things online and have them just start working out of the box. I wouldn't be surprised if we wake up tomorrow and they are still working on it.
282  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 30, 2014, 05:40:13 AM
Found this on reddit http://postimg.org/image/pdz3nu74v/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2qrz67/i_was_the_owner_of_hashieco_until_josh_garza/

Not sure if its a photoshop job.... but its great either way

Edit: think its a photoshop, can't find it on the SEC site, going to go post it on HT for fun
Edit2: crap the bannned my burner account someone post it on HT to see who comes unglued

Soon GAW will be made responsible for every cloud mining failure, DDOS and hack. Can't log in to bitcointalk? It was bought by Josh Garza! LOL

After purchasing coinswap and shapeshift, I heard Josh has turned his omnipotent "Eye of Sauron" towards another bastion of bitcoin. He is currently negotiating for bitcointalk as we speak. As soon as the XPY has been transferred he is going to delete this thread with prejudice. If that doesn't calm things, he will bring lizard over to ban-hammer the hobbits on here (aka, us). If that still doesn't work he will just set the domain to redirect over to hashtalk and it will be done. The board is set, the pieces are moving. We come to it at last, the great battle of our time.

283  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 30, 2014, 04:37:53 AM
Having this Paybase connected to every exchange is just begging for technical problems. It's almost as though gaw purposely wanted to built a fragile system that would be crashing constantly.
284  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 30, 2014, 03:20:35 AM

*But the hashlets will only be available for $ or BTC. We already know that Josh would never let people "throw away their XPY" on such a foolish thing as investing in something that will supposedly make more XPY....

Yep, crazy, how they can get away with fooling people this way.Additionally, they may say that you can only use paysave on coins purchase newly for 20usd ... not existing paycoin2s....

If they do this , they are attacking the fungibility of the coin.

Wasn't it hinted a while ago that the floor might be funded by "retail" sales of XPY at $20? Could have been just someone's speculation though, I can't find it now. But it would fit into the whole scheme rather well I think. You can dump or spend as many coins as you want for $20 each as long as someone is buying them for $20.

Still doesn't explain where the 10% discount would come from. Amazon referrals don't pay anywhere near that and their margins are not high enough for GAW to be able to undercut by sourcing from other suppliers.

I speculated that a while ago. I think others did as well.

Yeah I don't see how they are offering 10% off amazon prices. Their prices are already amazing usually. Will be interested to see that.
285  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 11:53:47 PM



Yes, of course. I get your perspective. But if one believes otherwise, it doesn't mean that their morals and ethics don't line up with yours in the end. Far from it.

If this were the case you would be more vocal with their behavior. Do you or do you not believe they were fractional reserve mining in the past?

I believe they are doing what they can to bring a crypto to the masses. If they were a scam, IMO, they would have cashed and ran already. Why keep the charade and the lies and the possibility of going to jail? It would seem to be riskier by the day to continue this way if it was a 100% scam, no?

Some may believe this is a flat out scam, but I personally believe that in Homero's mind, he's just running an aggressive startup. In his head there are no rules, so he's pulling out every trick in the book. Only after this whole thing unfolds and either stabilizes or collapses will we be able to judge just where paycoin falls on the scam-o-meter. Based on his actions and promises, things are not looking good right now clearly. He can't even deliver on his promises of a stable XPY, merchants on board, or even the release of Paybase at this point. Why should we be confident in the future based his prior actions and promises?
286  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 10:28:10 PM
The cultists are getting scared... Freaking out about every little price movement in the coin...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/26402/xpy-price-is-crashing-on-bittrex/40

So every "cultist" in that thread agreed with the OP?  Hmmm....  hyperbole much?

Since when does "cultists" = "every cultist"? Obviously there are enough of them to start a thread about it and discuss it. And of course some are so in deep on this scheme that they will never admit any fears and always try to put out any fires that start. We know who those users are.

Actually, cultists imply "more than one". Was there more than a single person that agreed with the OP in that thread?  So wouldn't your post more accurately read "a cultist is getting scared... Freaking out about every little price movement in the coin..."?

There are more than one. You can take a poll on there if you want.

It's part of a bigger idea though my friend. The cultists are rebelling because they can't buy cashtakers for XPY. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but apparently they are cashing out their XPY at less than the $20 floor so they can buy the last of cashtakers. How this works out mathematically and financially I have no idea (I don't think it does but then I don't know how to think like a cultist) but it looks like the horde has spoken..

https://hashtalk.org/topic/26407/lots-of-xpy-moving-around/13

287  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 10:13:46 PM
The cultists are getting scared... Freaking out about every little price movement in the coin...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/26402/xpy-price-is-crashing-on-bittrex/40

So every "cultist" in that thread agreed with the OP?  Hmmm....  hyperbole much?

Since when does "cultists" = "every cultist"? Obviously there are enough of them to start a thread about it and discuss it. And of course some are so in deep on this scheme that they will never admit any fears and always try to put out any fires that start. We know who those users are.
288  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 09:59:39 PM
The cultists are getting scared... Freaking out about every little price movement in the coin...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/26402/xpy-price-is-crashing-on-bittrex/40
289  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 09:43:08 PM
Who would trust a casino that will not honor their own poker chips? The level of imbecility displayed by these GAW believers is truly startling.

You just gave me a great gaw-inspired business plan...

Start a new coin, let's call it betcoin. Premine the shit out of it. All 1 billion of the coins. Good start.

Next launch or buy an exchange. It's the exclusive exchange for exchanging betcoin. Carefully control price and volume.

Then launch online casino that only accepts betcoin. Give huge deals like 100%-300% betcoin bonus on deposit (you own the whole ecosystem so you can do whatever the hell you want). Make sure this is a killer casino with splashy graphics and market the shit out of it. Offer better deals than anyone.

People who want to play will have to go to the exchange to buy. People who want to cash out have to go through the exchange as well. And you are in control of it all. You can carefully control volume and price and throw deals at customers if there's too much cashing out going on...

Keep this going for a few years.. All this time you are slowly selling off your 1 billion betcoins for as much as possible. All the money you make from your casino is just a bonus. Once you sell off all your coins, you sell the casino off too and retire in a Tuscany Villa or maybe an island retreat somewhere in the Bahamas (or maybe both).

Tell me why this doesn't work!? Lol
Good idea but ...
Already done:

breakout coin

http://www.coindesk.com/stakes-high-star-backed-bitcoin-gambling-site-crowdsale-stumbles/

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808648.0

Damn I hate when my idea for the scam has already been done. I bet that happens to Homero all the time.
290  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 09:32:55 PM
Who would trust a casino that will not honor their own poker chips? The level of imbecility displayed by these GAW believers is truly startling.

You just gave me a great gaw-inspired business plan...

Start a new coin, let's call it betcoin. Premine the shit out of it. All 1 billion of the coins. Good start.

Next launch or buy an exchange. It's the exclusive exchange for exchanging betcoin. Carefully control price and volume.

Then launch online casino that only accepts betcoin. Give huge deals like 100%-300% betcoin bonus on deposit (you own the whole ecosystem so you can do whatever the hell you want). Make sure this is a killer casino with splashy graphics and market the shit out of it. Offer better deals than anyone.

People who want to play will have to go to the exchange to buy. People who want to cash out have to go through the exchange as well. And you are in control of it all. You can carefully control volume and price and throw deals at customers if there's too much cashing out going on...

Keep this going for a few years.. All this time you are slowly selling off your 1 billion betcoins for as much as possible. All the money you make from your casino is just a bonus. Once you sell off all your coins, you sell the casino off too and retire in a Tuscany Villa or maybe an island retreat somewhere in the Bahamas (or maybe both).

Tell me why this doesn't work!? Lol
291  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 09:19:05 PM
Once people realize this the next dump will be much more severe
https://hashtalk.org/topic/26394/i-ve-been-feeling-like-a-milked-btc-cow-for-a-while-now/23

"Josh has said you can't pay for things in XPY until Paybase API is launched.

As a programmer myself that sounds like the work is done to allow us to purchase in XPY but it ties into elements of Paybase so it can't be launched until Paybase is launched.

So no you won't be able to buy in XPY."

I think its likely that josh will come through as a hero late tonight, launch Paybase, and magically have more of those rare and elusive hashstakers that keep selling out available to XPY. Withdrawing BTC/spending XPY for 20 usd with amazon is highly dubious at this stage outside a small group of hand selected candidates.

Seriously.

Does anyone actually know what a user (non premier) will actually be able to do on paybase day 1? Other then buy XPY for BTC for $20 and update your profile?
292  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 08:48:33 PM
Anyone have a fly swatter handy? There is this constant buzz, almost a whine around here which is really quite annoying.

I agree. The constant chatter of 15-year olds running around trying to archive things is slightly amusing, albeit tiresome. Oh well, I guess if they have the energy, LOL. Maybe they can pump the BTC price up to $320 again. Those were the glory days after all...

This just in from Josh: we're pushing xpy to the moon! It needs to be higher than bitcoin so people can accept it, so please get as much money as you can and buy paycoin to make that happen! xpy 330 all the way!

lol

Lol man seems like u are coming over to the dark side a little bit my friend...
293  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 08:47:43 PM
Even loyal cultists can only take so much....

https://hashtalk.org/topic/26394/i-ve-been-feeling-like-a-milked-btc-cow-for-a-while-now/2
294  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 06:47:42 PM
On bittrex price seems to be dropping. Where is paybase to save the day?
295  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 05:30:32 PM

P.S: GAW FINALLY took down the fake testimonials. Did the one person at GAW with a tiny bit of common sense return from Christmas vacation and realize that they were publicly announcing that GAW is a pack of stinking liars and decide to pull the page with the FAKE testimonials??

Holy shit, you're right. And it's archived. 100% fraud detected and legal proof available. READY THE LAWYERS.



Your so stupid its hilarious...

The testimonials came from people already using paysave. Holy crap you people are stupid. You talk on here as if it hasn't been functioning this entire time.

oh and that idiot that said "Ive seen this volume before, over 600 btc, over 1000 btc, then a week later back down"

"XPY/BTC   Paycoin XPY   1416 BTC   0.04419997   0.04498999 BTC   0.03650000 BTC"

You morons should shut your mouth! (and your keyboards)

Hey how come this is still sitting at $13-$14? Isn't it supposed to be at $20? What the hell are those bots doing? Natives no doubt getting restless...
296  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 06:36:40 AM
The fact is, something like 10% of the bitcoin network jumped over to mine it. I don't think they were expecting that, and I don't think any coin could support that much right away without any hiccups. (Have any other alts had that much power at launch and managed fine?)

No, dozens of other coins have experienced similar growth with no problems and many of them included new/experimental features unlike paycoin.

Source, please? Or at least specifics so I can look it up myself? I'm not particularly interested in looking up 200 coins right now to figure out which one you're talking about.

Pick any successful mineable coin and chances are they've experienced rapid growth at some point.

How many times do GAW things need to break because they are "too successful" before you realize it's all BS?

This has to be the ~10th time he's used that excuse.

Yeah, I understand gaw is worried that tomorrow the Internet might break Paybase because it can not handle such an incredible transaction volume. We will see. Hopefully the Internet can hold up.
297  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 05:20:35 AM
Wtf is this? Homero wants to charge for paybase and then if you don't sell your paycoins he may give you free access!? Only giving out 10000 free premier accounts...LMFAO.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/26271/paybase-beta-is-near

Only this scammer could concoct such a lame plan.


Oh and so this is the beta. So there was no beta before this. Wasn't it claimed there was a beta. I know nobody cares cause the lie count is off the charts at this point.

He's charging for Premier. The basic services are still free.

And there can be multiple betas for a product, I've seen that many times. You have a private beta then a public one.

This is the first of anyone mentioning this release is a beta though. I love how these things are always omitted. I have no problem risking all my money on a beta lol. Sure, this is only dealing with financial transactions. No biggie if something is lost or screwed up. LMFAO again. Huge failure for Gaw. Who the fuck is going to trust their investments on untested beta code? Oh wait, the cultists have no issue with this. Well good luck and don't cry when your hard earned paycoins or BTC starts disappearing on you.
298  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 05:10:05 AM
Wtf is this? Homero wants to charge for paybase and then if you don't sell your paycoins he may give you free access!? Only giving out 10000 free premier accounts...LMFAO.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/26271/paybase-beta-is-near

Only this scammer could concoct such a lame plan.


Oh and so this is the beta. So there was no beta before this. Wasn't it claimed there was a beta. I know nobody cares cause the lie count is off the charts at this point.
299  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 28, 2014, 04:36:35 AM
It's really looking like anyone with a paycoin hoping to get $20 on Monday is shit outta luck...


From Homero himself:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/26053/time-to-turn-on-the-bots/63

The question is how will everyone handle it? Will this precipitate a price crash of XPY on the exchanges once it really sinks in to all those investors who have been paid only hash points for the last few months? Or will Homero rise to hold back the flood that would surely be the demise of all of gaw-land?
300  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 27, 2014, 08:23:08 PM
brass balls of surrey bc yes sir up 1.5btc @primedice this morning now putting my money bak at btc-e.com

Don't waste that stash gambling man. At least go to agora and get some nice dope, maybe some e or the coke there is always a deal.
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