"Verification of all databases is in the final stages and we expect to be online later this week" I am voting it's all made up, sounds like he took a cue from LTCgear. Weren't withdrawals shut down at the end of last month also ?
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Thanks, i hadn't followed up there since the thread split. They didn't post this kind of info in hashtalk, did they? of course not Mr. Ganzas plan worked. lure them in with working services then bring the scam hammer down! my experience was similar, I had been in a couple of months with genesis to mine BTC and i bought some zens because it seemed like they were going to mine x11 (I say seemed cause I don't recall the exact announcement, does that count as one of those things that never happened ?) However, I did begin selling off the genesis hashlets once they announced the hashpoint (coupons!) instead actual bitcoin (mining hashpoints, what a joke). This is where I decided I was not interested in hashpoints or another alt-coin, at this point I didn't really think "scam" but it was clearly going a direction I was not interested in going. I found this thread after I had already begun moving out of GAW and it certainly reaffirmed my decisions, thanks to suchmoon and many others. I actually made a bit of bitcoin and did a little better than break even selling off. Those BTC are now in another place doing just fine.
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*Also, there is the "little detail" of Josh openly posting about exactly how he could sucker people into his sham cloudmining Ponzi scheme by luring them into making pre-orders of hardware and then conning customers into accepting (non-existent) "hashlets" instead. That is open and blatant premeditated fraud. The guy openly stated that he was a scumbag scammer, so all of these endless "what if he isn't a stinking, lying, scumbag, scammer" posts are completely irrelevant. All that is left to ponder is what the next step will be, how badly customers will get ripped off, and if he will get prosecuted.
this +1
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Wow, with BTC above 250, I guess Mr Ganza will be turning the miners back on since they are now profitable again ...exiting news! /s
Don't hold your breath. /s added to indicate sarcasm ... I can continue to breathe as there are no miners to turn back on....
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Wow, with BTC above 250, I guess Mr Ganza will be turning the miners back on since they are now profitable again ...exiting news!
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oh its a big bug surprise!
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Wow, the HJG the CEO of GAW just accused *me* on Twitter of gaming the XPY market to make money at other peoples expense? Un-fucking-real. Like my 20K XPY controlled the market? His super staking Prime nodes generate 30K XPY per day but I used my little bit of XPY purchased over several months to game the market?
OK - I admit it, I singlehandedly crashed the price from $20 down to a buck so I could lose my ass at the expense of others.. It didn't have anything to do with GAW or failure to deliver or space drones or anything like that. Am I powerful or what?
If it's any consolation - that's not HJG. "Object Permanence" is not in his 9th grade vocabulary. Comedy gold https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/571533229439778816"Object Permanence" is a bit like heisenberg lite or does the XPY make a sound when it hits the ground. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg
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Just going off statements made by Mr. Ganza. 6.5 Million coins in Prime controllers. Supposedly a round-1 financing round where it took a million dollars just to be invited. Over-subscribed was what the word was. At a dollar per coin and what, six investors, two million dollars each, a dollar per coin?, the numbers are already way past the 12 million pre-mine. So, two investors at 2 million each. a dollar per coin.
12 million - 6.5 million - 4 million = 1.5 million coins left over to be paid out to hashpoint miners.
OK - fine - $100 million CAF and even 1.5 million coins, or, Christ, call it 3.5 million coins or even your figure of 4.8 million coins at $20 - do the math. It's the "$100 million held out of the $335 million financing to be a CAF" that's bullshit. Well, other than all the other numbers. All the numbers that Mr. HJG has ever quoted are complete and utter bullshit.
How about 10,000 sign ups in zencloud per day? There aren't even 7500 active XPY wallet addresses in use. Where do you suppose all those sign-ups and buyers keep their XPY? How much XPY do you think is really out there in the wild when the top 100 addresses own like 90% of all the coins that exist?
Thanks for your insight and don't worry about vObh0n]6W aka ikeboy ... he's always like that.
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Wow! exiting news! first MasterCard and now a media outlet interview! oh, wait ...sorry. same empty bellowing, nothing to see. The emperor wears no clothes.
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Vlad,
" I only trade to pass the time [as I grow frustrated with IXC and CEX.io] and so I try to keep occupied and make some money but my real reason for being here is of much greater importance."
why are you here, what great importance ? XPY will continue to suck. you should be on Cryptsy buying what I just sold
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Guys get a life give this rubbish a rest your only going to make yourselves look stupid when paycoin goes to the moon!!! The big boys at your school will steal your lunch money for being stupid nerds
Meanwhile your investment is worth 1/10th of what you bought it for? ... 90% of it is in Josh Promises, though, and those are headed for the moon! neither NASA or ESA could get XPY to moon ...
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I never used the word dump. I sell off what is generated by the hashstakers (converted zen's) because I have zero confidence the coin has any real chance for success. The XPY I hold is tied up in the hashstakers or I would have sold that off already also. I have been converting most of it to DRK which has worked out well enough so far.
edit: I don't disclose holdings or know other folks details regarding their holdings
Selling or "converting" at whatever the market price, is by definition, dumping. No need to get offended - it's your right to dump if you have no faith in a coin. At least you have made a decision which most can't seem to make. I'm only asking for your numbers cause I'm trying to figure out how many miners XPY has and how many of those are potentially dumping. I'm trying to test my theory that Garza is not dumping here but buying but without any real world numbers it's difficult to do so. not offended, since "dumping is a colloquial term that refers to the act of offloading a stock with little regard for its price" you can have the win on the term since I do sell with little regard to price. I have no idea why you feel the need to pump xpy and derail this thread. I had no interest in XPY to begin with and it took a little time to sell my PNGs on zen market. The zen's I had leftover were converted to stakers and I sold XPY the moment I was able with no regrets and I continue to do so. 115 day left on the stakers and then I am outta here (that is if gaw/zen/paybase or whatever its called next week makes it that long) now, where is the fat lady ? I thought I heard a voice in the distance
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"I'm a bit confused who would be dumping after a near 95% drop in price."
Every few days I transfer my xpy from zencloud to cryptsy and sell at market price, please take all you want.
How much do you dump per day? How many miners/stakers are there like you right now? You don't hold any of your XPY just for speculation? Thanks! I never used the word dump. I sell off what is generated by the hashstakers (converted zen's) because I have zero confidence the coin has any real chance for success. The XPY I hold is tied up in the hashstakers or I would have sold that off already also. I have been converting most of it to DRK which has worked out well enough so far. edit: I don't disclose holdings or know other folks details regarding their holdings
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"I'm a bit confused who would be dumping after a near 95% drop in price."
Every few days I transfer my xpy from zencloud to cryptsy and sell at market price, please take all you want.
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This may be a case of homophones (sorta) Mr Ganza was caught lion again or Mr Ganza is in Belgium lying hunting
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exchange.btc.com news.btc.com shopping.btc.com and so on, subdomains are now "partnerships" lol, what a load of bullshit "major industry leaders" sounds like the same old tired "major retailers" i.e. Amazon bullshit.
how about this "partnership..." fuckingscamxpy.btc.com that's good SendMrGanzaCashforXPYpsHeAlsoTakes.btc.com
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exchange.btc.com news.btc.com shopping.btc.com and so on, subdomains are now "partnerships" lol, what a load of bullshit "major industry leaders" sounds like the same old tired "major retailers" i.e. Amazon bullshit.
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"supporters who are still massively there" that is part of the Mr Ganza's lie... there is no massive support
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