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Oh, no problem! Again, Deepbit has awesome rules so I wasn't really worried (and figured if there was a glitch that it would've been fixed soonish). If that was a regular pool though, well, that's different!
Glad to hear it was just a bug. Carry on mining or... pooling.
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Is it just me or did Deepbit have a huge wave of Invalid blocks just now? Was out for a business event and came home to see a row of invalids show up. We should still be getting credit though if I understand it so that's good. It looks like it's fine now, though. Not knocking Deepbit. I know others may prefer pools with fewer fees but Deepbit's been very stable for me long-term and is a great pool for my remote machines.  |
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Checking this now.
Possibly I launched one of backup loadbalancers with old cert. Wait a minute.
UPD: That loadbalancer is now removed from DNS list, should be fine in a few minutes.
Thanks. Logged out, logged in and no problem now. Just have to fix my machine connections tomorrow I suppose  |
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Anyone else getting certificate errors on Deepbit now? If I reload the pool's page, I'm getting that. A good chunk of the regular hasing seems to still be down atm.
My main system is still up but all my remote ones were having network issues. Then again I think the router over there died so not the pool's fault there.
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A little late to the party but...
A couple SC units... #4448 and #4522
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Pay Pal is now available on BFL's site for a payment method. I'm not sure when they put it up exactly but I'd guess a week or two by now. I just now last time I checked I didn't see it there.
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Thanks for the insight on that. I can understand not wanting to give false estimates until you can thoroughly test your products.
Sorry for any confusion I had added to my posts. I had just wanted to communicate the information along since people are curious about these devices and it would seem that (perhaps in the past) that BFL was hard to get ahold of.
I know the CSRs I've been emailing have been incredibly helpful and relatively prompt (one day or less) on their response time. Thank you for that!
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I would say there's almost no way a single Jalapeno will consume 30W. Your logic is pretty sound that you would expect MH/J for all three SC products to be about the same. If the Jalapeno consumed even 10W, it would imply that the single will consume around 100W, while the minirig would consume almost 3000W. I know that BFL has claimed that the SC is a heat resistant chip, but I would shudder to think of the noise/temperatures you would see in the existing Minirig case if they were dissipating 3000W.
Ah, fair enough. So aside from the challenge of providing one big rig with 3KW of power on it's own line that anyone outside of a business wouldn't have (and probably rightfully so given the cost), do you think that the Jalapeno would be using far less than even 10W? If it was 5 watts, that's put a big rig at roughly 1,500 watts which would sound perfect for the traditional 15A breaker here in the US, let alone elsewhere, if you leave a safety factor in place. |
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Remember single point of failure as a possibility
Had thought of that and granted for that (comparatively) expensive Tripplite long strip, you could buy 3 6-port adapters for about the same price overall. Just preference I suppose but was just putting ideas out there either way. |
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Good info, thanks.
Will the SC single need a PC? Or does it have a Raspberry Pi like the minirig?
The information I have from BFL indicates the SC Single will essentially be identical as the existing Single; that is, except for hashrate and power draw. Yes, it will need a host PC. And as far as I know, the current minirigs do NOT have a Pi in them; that was only a possibility during development. But all the information I've seen on the minirigs indicates that the Pi was not included in the final shipping product. You still need a PC for them. Yeah I had asked them about needing a host PC as well and the answer is indeed, yes. My worry was that aside from the wall wart / power adapter and hub clutter, was that if it'd be easier or safer to just run like a dozen Jalepenos off of a PC, to which they suggested use a hub. But then again if you're buying that amount of little guys, might as well just go with an SC Single (single rig, not mini computer rig aka the big guy). -------- Thanks - glad to help. Any more info I get from them I'll share here as I'm sure there are plenty of people who are curious before they buy anything as to what's up. At least the good news (I hope) is so that even if we're talking 30 watts or something for a Jalapeno, it's still a FRACTION of what we need to disperse heat-wise compared to GPUs! I believe I caught somewhere that the original BFL single units were 80 watts? Still darned good I'd think! Unless you're maxed on plugs near your PC, it sounds like power may not really be an issue. I asked them about the following hubs just in case if someone did want to run an unhealthy amount of little Jalapenos though... Here's a 7 port hub (keep in mind with it's own brick as well): http://www.amazon.com/Uspeed-Cable-Adapter-Backward-Compatible/dp/B006TT91TW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343867790&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+3+hub+7+portPlug liberators (not the false stuff on Amazon apparently): http://www.cableorganizer.com/power-strip-liberator/and last up would be a giant strip to give all those wall adapters room if necessary: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812120256-------- Again, just my thoughts looking at what someone would need. If someone buys a handful of these little guys, simply having enough outlet space could be a real challenge if the hubs and Jalapenos all have power bricks.  |
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Sorry if this is redundant but I've been going back and forth with BFL and have found the following:
1. The Jalapenos will have a wall adapter along with the USB cable. One port or two was not comfirmed yet but I'd imagine one. Whether USB 2 or 3 though, is something I'd have to ask.
2. It is fine to connect many Jalapenos through a USB hub.
3. For people looking to pay with Pay pal instead of Bitcoin or bank wires, it was said that it should be up on the site soon. There was no comment on their ability or inability to accept credit or debit cards.
4. October in general is still the slated release date. Not all orders will be shipped at once.
5. Products appear to have a 6 month warranty.
6. We can deduce the power draw of a Jalapeno (already discussed in this and other threads). I asked if a roughly 10x increase in draw was fair for a device (very roughly) producing 10x as much thoroughput - 300-400 watt range for a SC single rig. They could not reply just yet as their engineers have not given them the wattage information yet.
That's all I have for now folks. Hope this helps.
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"Only 130 GH"... yep a little jelly XD May the both of you have a lot of fun with your investments |
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Thanks for the clarification there.
I was joking to myself in thinking that hey, if you get a few Jalapens there wouldn't be any issue in just solo mining. Then again two factors at work there:
1. Everyone will be getting that kind of horsepower
2. Difficulty should adjust fast so we'd be back to submitting shares, just on a greater hashing scale.
Oh well. Investment capital that's needed is far less than our giant GPU setups. Faster payback and also a benenfit of cheaper devices to have more people mine so the idea itself spreads too. Fine by me!
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Ok so was thinking this over and wanted to spell it out in case I'm mistaken. It would appear that once these BFL SC Jalapenos hit that they'll become pretty much a necessity to stay in the game, right?
1. Network right now is at ~12TH/sec.
2. Average Joe can buy what was originally a pretty dedicated BTC setup of ~4GH/sec for barely $150.
3. If nearly everyone buys one unit, hashing power goes up by 10x so blocks are solved 10x faster.
4. Target Difficulty will still adjust after 2016 blocks but the first batch of blocks once ASIC is active should be solved very fast (comparatively).
5. Us still sitting on GPUs will have our shares and fractions of a pool % dwindled down to barely anything since we would then be making up even less of the total network hashing power. We'd still submit the same shares as before of course but a block may contain 20 million shares instead of 2.
6. ASIC becomes self-aware and... Ok kidding, haha. ASIC becomes the main hashing method.
Not saying I couldn't recoup the money invested as the machines are still plenty good for many things outside of Bitcoin. At the same time though, it'd be nice to make sure I'm understanding it right to where hey, all of the time and effort spent in mining "the traditional way" will become pretty worthless in the coming months, block-halving notwithstanding.
I'd imagine the difficulty may not jump as much because of many people leaving once these changes happen but still, a 10x jump in network hashing power is pretty big, let alone something like 20x.
...and then, most of you will start mining Litecoins with your now useless GPU's? Damn... I suppose either that or dedicate the power toward a distributed scientific project. |
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Ok so was thinking this over and wanted to spell it out in case I'm mistaken. It would appear that once these BFL SC Jalapenos hit that they'll become pretty much a necessity to stay in the game, right?
1. Network right now is at ~12TH/sec.
2. Average Joe can buy what was originally a pretty dedicated BTC setup of ~4GH/sec for barely $150.
3. If nearly everyone buys one unit, hashing power goes up by 10x so blocks are solved 10x faster.
4. Target Difficulty will still adjust after 2016 blocks but the first batch of blocks once ASIC is active should be solved very fast (comparatively).
5. Us still sitting on GPUs will have our shares and fractions of a pool % dwindled down to barely anything since we would then be making up even less of the total network hashing power. We'd still submit the same shares as before of course but a block may contain 20 million shares instead of 2.
6. ASIC becomes self-aware and... Ok kidding, haha. ASIC becomes the main hashing method.
Not saying I couldn't recoup the money invested as the machines are still plenty good for many things outside of Bitcoin. At the same time though, it'd be nice to make sure I'm understanding it right to where hey, all of the time and effort spent in mining "the traditional way" will become pretty worthless in the coming months, block-halving notwithstanding.
I'd imagine the difficulty may not jump as much because of many people leaving once these changes happen but still, a 10x jump in network hashing power is pretty big, let alone something like 20x.
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You can try, but you're unlikely to get an RMA from diamond. For sure I can tell you that if you registered it with them and put ebay as the vendor they will not honor the warranty. Ebay people who say warranty should get the scam label.
Also, diamond doesn't have any 5970's I heard they are offering a 6970, which is bullshit or making you pay for a 7970, which is also bullshit.
XFX gave me a 6990 which looked brand new for a 5970 I RMA'd with them.
I have a diamond RMA in process right now and will post in this section when i hear back.
Just had two of my cards finally be replaced after a month+ of downtime / failure. Diamond said they were both outright overheating and crashed their systems (after they slowly wouldn't mine for me anymore). Got two 6970s in return which, while may not be perfect, is better than 0 MH/s. Indeed I'd have to pay to step up to 7970s (which I wonder how much it would've been)... Yeah you really have to watch the VRMs on the 5970s. Even in a cool room they will still run ~20C or so hotter than whatever the hottest temp of the cores are. You might be able to push them to 130C but they'll quickly throttle back. While I've not personally replaced my thermal pads, I do have the cards running in a cool room finally. With the VRMs, the lower temp the better |
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Good to hear. They traded both of mine in so perhaps they got more in finally.
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If you're running the latest drivers, you should be able to show all the OC sliders in Afterburner for all cores on the card (just go to settings > one of the 4 cards in the dropdown). You can't change the fan speed for them all but you can still move the clock sliders.
Update on my end. Diamond told me they could trade me two 6970s for my cards dying. I'd have to pay extra to step up to 7970s. Oh well even if I lose some hashes, having a running system beats none at all.
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