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1521  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will be running in your mind if Bitcoin reaches $1000 again on: August 04, 2022, 08:00:42 PM
Some of us might fear it but as long as we trust Bitcoin and its capability, we will see dumps as an opportunity to buy.

No matter how bitcoin price dump, some people will still panic and won't want to buy because they will keep on saying the price will dump more, they want to buy the bottom, even if bitcoin dump to $1000 some people wont still buy and they will want it to dump more before they buy. Whenever the price start pumping back, they will still be expecting more dump which they might not see again, whenever the price is high they will start regretting why they didn't buy when the price was low. No matter how bitcoin dump, some people wont still buy.

those who continue not to buy despite the price crash certainly have no plans for future profits. it also has to do with the psychology of every trader, expecting the price to go down and down but never buying some coins, but when the bulls come many start buying at high prices. strategy is important to determine where you should buy and where you should exit.
1522  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will be running in your mind if Bitcoin reaches $1000 again on: August 04, 2022, 05:32:20 PM
In crypto anything is possible but I don't really think Bitcoin can dump to $1000, but incase if anything happens and bitcoin dump then I believe that's another opportunity for me to buy more bitcoin, I will invest all the money am having with me in bitcon and I will hold and see what will happen. We all know that if bitcoin dump other altcoins will also dump, so I know some people will want to invest in altcoins which I won't advise anybody to do, if bitcoin can dump to $1000, I believe most altcoins won't survive the market if you invest in altcoin at that moment, you are just gambling. If bitcoin dump to $1000 just buy bitcoin and HOLD.

that would be everyone's hope, down to $1000 and buying more with all the money we have. But is it possible for now? anything can happen in crypto, but to reach the price of $ 1000 of course requires an incredibly crazy process and FUD, this is the same as throwing bitcoins like they are not valuable anymore. don't get your hopes up too far, the current price alone in the $20,000 area is a pretty good price to invest and hold on to. Bitcoin price drop from ATH is around -70%, We just need to wait for new ATH again, hold it firmly.
1523  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: demo account for futures on: August 04, 2022, 04:52:39 PM
The demo account is just a trial account which means nothing. Demo accounts like those in binary options trading are just robots that are set to keep winning and if you switch to a real account everything will change. It's better to use a real account but use a little of your money to try scalping strategies with high leverage as you wish, it will be better because you can know how it works for real.

If you are a professional trader of course you don't need the demo account, but if you are a beginner and hope to win with high leverage I suggest using leverage wisely or just switch to spot trading, don't be too pushy.
1524  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is trading really worth it? on: August 04, 2022, 08:14:26 AM
If you don't have good knowledge about something, it will be foolish to take maximum risk. Now the market situation will be very bad. If you go to take more risk, then you are likely to lose everything.  What I think is that you can buy some coins now if you want with advice from good experienced people.  Or if you want, you can increase your thinking by looking at the market now.  You can use it later. It is not good to do anything suddenly.
When we don't know much about anything, I don't think it's wise to decide to take risks,
because as you said sooner or later it will make you lose everything so think carefully,
it's very important and hopefully they should realize how important it is to improve their thinking or knowledge

it is very unwise to take risks without seeing one's own abilities. If you continue to force it, you will not gain but the losses that will come. trading will be totally worth it if you know the trading knowledge even if it's just the basics. It is not recommended for those who are still beginners to trade, because it is the same as gambling without knowing any risks and limitations. Improving thinking and knowledge about trading will be very important and will be the main advice for newbies who keep coming.
1525  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Good idea how to make profit on: August 04, 2022, 06:02:42 AM
Instead of imagining paying $500,000 in grayscale for some information, spend your time learning the science of trading. A good idea to make a profit is to trade, no matter who is doing the manipulation, the most important thing is that you are prepared with the knowledge you have.
Instead of just bragging and daydreaming like you are doing right now. Wake up from your dream and do what you have to do, this is the real world.
1526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 04, 2022, 05:50:19 AM
The Italian League Serie A will start on August 13 and of course this will be a tense Serie A match. The inaugural matches that will be played are Sampdoria Vs Atalanta and AC Milan Vs Udinese.

this is also the first match for De Ketelaere at AC Milan, this 21-year-old young player is a player from Club Brugge who will be under contract with AC Milan until 2027. Let's wait for the inaugural match of the Serie A Pa League on August 13, 2022.

Italian League Match Schedule (Serie A)



The first week of Serie A doesn't seem so tough for big clubs. Milan meets Udinese, in this match, AC Milan should be can beat Udinese at least with 1-0. However, Milan also needs to be aware of every movement of Udinese players, considering that in some matches, Udinese are also able to provide resistance and some matches they only give 1 points for Milan.

Roma, Inter and Juventus as well, first week face mid and bottom team, I think 3 points is more easy for them.

udinese also cannot be underestimated because in several previous matches AC Milan was held to a draw by udinese.
this will be a head to head match between AC Milan vs Udinese.

The following is the history of Head To Head AC Milan Vs Udinese:

26.02.2022
AC Milan vs Udinese: 1-1

12.12.21
Udinese vs AC Milan: 1-1

04.03.21
AC Milan vs Udinese: 1-1

01.11.20
Udinese vs AC Milan: 1-2

19.01.20
AC Milan vs Udinese: 3- 2

3 draws and on August 13, 2022 this will prove how strong Udinese is, the possibility of winning is still there.
1527  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Advise in using hot wallet and altcoin investment. on: August 03, 2022, 07:48:03 PM

5. If you have control (keys) over your digital assets then its yours but if you don't, you're not safe


there are still many suggestions that can be used to stay safe. About having control for Lock over your digital assets, it is very necessary to do. You are the one who holds the key, then it is your asset and only you can fully control it.

If you use exchange storage you have no control whatsoever. It is best to hold your own keys by storing them in a hardware wallet. Storing on an exchange wallet will run the risk of losing it in the event of a hack because you have no control whatsoever.

The best option is to invest in Bitcoin and everyone recommends bitcoin. Do not invest in altcoins that are not necessarily well developed. Bitcoin is the best digital asset, even stablecoins cannot be trusted at this time because the possibility of a crash will occur like UST.
1528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to take profits? on: August 03, 2022, 07:01:24 PM
Actually this is very easy, if you are satisfied with these benefits, take all the profits and invest again to get other benefits. 300 Euros to 500 Euros of course you have got a profit of 200 Euros. You don't complicate things when they are actually easy.

Everyone has a different point of view on how to take advantage, of course you have to get these benefits and don't let them lose.

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1530  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: waiting to buy lower? on: August 03, 2022, 06:30:05 PM
It is really worthy to buy certain token which are lower in cost and when the coin become elevated in cost then should sell that coin. Buying at high price is not a good idea because you know that there is hurdle to get profit because of unstability in market price. I totally agree with buy low and sell high as their is an opportunity to win whenever the price elevated.

easy to say but hard to implement. Buy low sell High is just a word that will not change the results if it is not followed with any knowledge. Choosing a coin with a lower price also cannot be applied just like that. Don't get caught up in the price of a coin that you think is low, but will still experience a decline again.
It is important to know the market analysis so that you can read where the market is going.
to wait to buy lower must prepare sufficient capital as well as some capital reserves. Crypto market fluctuations will provide a lot of surprises for those who do not understand the crypto market.
1531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 03, 2022, 11:37:40 AM
The Italian League Serie A will start on August 13 and of course this will be a tense Serie A match. The inaugural matches that will be played are Sampdoria Vs Atalanta and AC Milan Vs Udinese.

this is also the first match for De Ketelaere at AC Milan, this 21-year-old young player is a player from Club Brugge who will be under contract with AC Milan until 2027. Let's wait for the inaugural match of the Serie A Pa League on August 13, 2022.

Italian League Match Schedule (Serie A)

1532  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Borrow fiat with your Bitcoin and never sell on: August 03, 2022, 02:23:44 AM
to replace the fiat system is currently not possible, Bitcoin still has pros and cons and price fluctuations will affect the level of risk of using bitcoin. Bitcoin and fiat today still go hand in hand, complement each other and do not replace each other. Borrowing money for long-term investments is not a problem as long as there is a return for the loan. Borrow according to what you need, banks value borrowers more than savers because borrowers will provide many advantages for the bank.
As long as we feel we can repay the money we borrowed, we can borrow money from the bank and return the loan money every month. But suppose we are going to use the money to start a business. In that case, we must carefully calculate the risks because a business cannot always provide a profit so we may have difficulty paying the loan. Maybe it would be better to try with the money you have first and keep trying to make a profit so that your capital money can be big and you don't have to borrow money from the bank.

if you still have personal money and can be used to trade why not. it's a better choice than having to borrow from the bank. Collecting profits little by little then the capital will be greater. But the most important of all is that trading skills must be really qualified. the average borrower of money in the bank is those who have good trading skills, so that returns will be faster and can be controlled. If you don't have skills, it's better to forget to borrow money at the bank.
1533  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Futures Trading is not for everyone on: August 02, 2022, 09:06:29 PM
Those who are completely newbies and don't understand crypto will trade Binary Options like Binomo, Quotex, Olymptrade etc and it carries a bigger risk. they just trade without having any understanding of how to get in and out, it's the same as gambling, just guessing the price will go down or up.
Futures trading can be done by everyone, but it is not suitable for everyone. There will be more losses than gains.
beginners are better off learning to trade in spot trading as everyone in this forum has said, but spot trading also has risks if you don't have analytical knowledge. Don't trade anything if you don't understand what you're trading.
1534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Terra Classic scam? on: August 02, 2022, 08:11:38 PM
~snip~This is why I believe that we shouldn't really be worried about this case, let the people who are investing into terra classic do invest in there. If they are right then they would make a lot of money and I would be happy for them, and if they lose money I would be sad but it is not my money they lost so I wouldn't care. All in all, this is a win-win for us anyway, it is not going to upset the people who didn't invest into it.

this is certainly a personal choice for everyone who wants to invest anywhere including in terra classic. But the effects of the terra collapse impact all terra-related investments. we really can't control anyone to invest, we just need to be careful on the investments we make ourselves and warn others when the investments we make will result in losses. Remember that terra classic is not a scam, terra classic is there to replace the crashed terra v1.
1535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Your ultimate choice? on: August 02, 2022, 07:29:43 PM
~snip~About the bull run and ath, I don't think it can happen this year but a lot are speculating that we can wait for a couple of years, preferably 2024 or 2025. In the mean, we can still add other coins like ethereum because not all coins are fully dependent on btc and I believe that eth will have an upcoming bull because of its incoming updates this year.

ATH can come at any time, but it certainly takes a process, we can only predict it. this year or next year ATH will definitely happen, the current bitcoin price is still very cheap and the right time if you want to enter and invest long term. Besides that about eth which you think does not depend on bitcoin, of course that is not entirely true. eth is still influenced by bitcoin and eth follows the direction of bitcoin, all depends on bitcoin. eth has indeed reached ATH in the $4800 price range and this is history, we will also look at other ATHs. just wait and be patient.
1536  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Gambling companies can get more users to deposit. on: August 02, 2022, 06:23:54 PM
Casino sites always look for the betterment, especially those who already established trust from the gamblers they will continue to update
their system for more gamblers to take advantage.

The gambling sites always need something new in order to keep attracting gamblers and their customers. There are so many new casinos coming each day and most of them are also good casino that offers deposit and other bonuses. In order to prevent people from switching the casinos in order to get free money / bonuses, it is important for the old trusted casinos to introduce plans which keep the interest of their customers alive.

In order to stand out among the promotions and marketing, casinos can think on offering deposit bonus with less wagering requirements. This is the best tactics to gain more deposits from the gamblers.

The unconditional deposit bonus and just registering will certainly attract gamblers who want to register. this is a marketing promotion targeting new users and for those who are already logged in will still get some bonuses on some achievements, this will certainly keep casino users from switching to other casinos.
In addition, to get many casino users, they usually use the promotion services of famous influencers or sexy-bodied influencers who will attract the interest of users. There are many other types of promotions currently being implemented.
1537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 02, 2022, 05:27:53 PM
In my opinion, Roma next season will be different from Roma last season, although  at that time Mourinho entered in the middle of the season but he was able to maximize his modest players at that time but unexpectedly won the Conference league title, seeing Roma maneuvers this season in the transfer market, of course Roma will be better next season and I think for the current striker position it is enough because apart from dybala and tammy, Roma also have some other good strikers at the moment.
I do not share your optimism, Roma in this transfer market has not received any significant increase with which it could reach a new level. I'm not even sure that Dybala will be able to somehow significantly strengthen Roma's attack, he is certainly not a bad forward, but he is not a leader who can lead a team or a forward who can score in every match. And hoping that Mourinho will be able to create a miracle is also not worth it, this requires large resources, this has already been discussed more than once.

although there has been no significant improvement, Mourinho as a coach is preparing players who will make Roma return to good performance. Don't just focus on Dybala, there are other players who are expected to strengthen Roma like Andrea Belotti who has been offered a salary of 2.8 million Euros accompanied by bonuses based on performance every season. And Wijnaldum who is eager to join Rome with a permanent purchase option of 30 million Euros.

AS Roma 2022/2023 Official Transfer

Transfer In
Nemanja Matic - Manchester United
Mile Svilar - Benfica
Zeki Celik - Lille
Paulo Dybala - Juventus

Transfer Out

Paul Lopez - sold
Cengiz Under - sold
Robin Olsen - sold
Davide Santon - released
Borja Mayoral - Loan Complete
Ainsley Maitland-Niles - Loan Complete
Sergio Olivieira - Loan Complete
Alessandro Florenzi - sold
Henrikh Mkhitaryan - released
Bryan Reynolds - Loan
1538  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Borrow fiat with your Bitcoin and never sell on: August 02, 2022, 08:17:25 AM
to replace the fiat system is currently not possible, Bitcoin still has pros and cons and price fluctuations will affect the level of risk of using bitcoin. Bitcoin and fiat today still go hand in hand, complement each other and do not replace each other. Borrowing money for long-term investments is not a problem as long as there is a return for the loan. Borrow according to what you need, banks value borrowers more than savers because borrowers will provide many advantages for the bank.
1539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Knowing Potential projects on: August 01, 2022, 03:28:26 PM
It's very hard to determine that. I just take care of project from the how many big parties backed it. I have feeling that when a project has a good start but it can also become a scam project at the middle of roadmap. It's very hard to know which thing that is very dominant to determine the potential of the project itself. I can assume that if you will be seeing so many potential projects but there will always be a few winners from tens or hundreds of potential projects in the market.

We could actually see hints if a project has a good potential from the beginning especially if they're showing a good road map, is being handled by a trusted team and they have active platforms where we could reach out to them and see updates regarding their project. Sometimes even if a project team is reputable, the project still tends to fail so we have to see the capability of their project and how it could all the market tests that it could face.

A good roadmap can't be the main reference, sometimes some scam projects take another project's roadmap and turn it into a convincing new roadmap. All can be manipulated well. The crucial thing is that the development team posted is of course all fake if it is a scammer's project. Detailed research needs to be done, scammers are now getting smarter to manipulate anything, so we also have to be smarter.
1540  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 01, 2022, 01:41:34 PM
Chelsea might be able to convince Barcelona to sign Frenkie de Jong but the deal would cost too much that's for sure. Frenkie de Jong doesn't have a special desire to leave the team at the moment so Chelsea will need to make an offer that can't be rejected by either the team or the player.
As far as i know chelsea is still having enough money to sign de jong if chelsea wants but the problem is laporta is still preferring to see de jong keep stay on barcelona rather than going to the new club. Laporta hopes dejong wanna accept salary cut from barcelona but in another side de jong didn't even like it. That was making the future of dejong in the barcelona is not clear enough. there was a very big chance for him to go to the another club.

So many battle happened between barcelona and chelsea. It seems like that kounde already joined barca as this already confirmed.


I think Man Utd is more likely to get De Jong than Chelsea, the signing fee might not be a problem for Chelsea, but Man Utd offer a much higher salary than what Chelsea could afford £450,000 per week. Other than that, De Jong should be already familiar with Teh Hag's strategy. The Champions League will be a small problem for Man Utd, but I suppose De Jong would get over it.

However, to realize de Jong playing at Manchester United seems increasingly difficult and Manchester United are looking for other alternatives for the transfer.
It is reported that Manchester United have a backup plan to bring in Fabian Ruiz from Napoli as a midfielder who will strengthen the Manchester United team. Ruiz is a quality midfielder with above average abilities so that he becomes a mainstay player in the Napoli national team.

Manchester United have contacted Fabian Ruiz's agent and expressed interest in the midfielder. Since the time against Ruiz is running out, Manchester United won't have to pay a lot of money and the midfielder can be redeemed for around 30 million euros this summer. Quite comparable to the quality
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