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1121  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Money but from where on: November 16, 2022, 06:18:35 PM
Indeed, the skills we have can bring in money, yes of course by working or something like that. No one will be able to bring in money by themselves by just sitting around doing nothing. Especially now is the era where all information can be found easily, including how to make money. Actually, if we don't see how much nominal we will receive for what we have done, then there is a lot of work that we can do. But the problem is now that most people look at the nominal amount of money before they do something, the smaller the nominal, they won't want to do it and choose not to work. I often see this in the environment around me where they do things that I think are detrimental to them.

If they have looked at the nominal first without prioritizing a good work ethic, of course, they will never get anything. Everyone starts small, from a relatively low income and continues to practice to get a more decent job.
Regarding skills, of course, we have to highlight the skills we have in order to get a suitable job and a pretty good income.
If our passion as traders and have good trading knowledge it will be very good. but the problem is that the initial capital needed is of course very much needed. Capital can be obtained from anywhere, collecting small income from work so that it can be used for trading. or make a bank loan (but this is riskier).
1122  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Future Trading Liquidated on: November 16, 2022, 05:35:25 PM
why don't you try spot trading and instead opt for futures trading?
We all know the risk of futures trading is very high. if you are liquidated in future trades it indicates that you are unprepared and do not understand future trades. you will only waste your money. the original plan wanted to make a lot of profit from future trades, but instead made big losses. Don't try future trading if you are not ready and don't have the basic knowledge of trading.
1123  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Warning]: Laplas, new clipboard malware on: November 15, 2022, 10:54:00 PM

Fortunately, with the use of gmail, most emails that are suspicious are moved to spam folder and sometimes they automatically delete it then tell you what email it is in a notification.
most of it will go straight to the spam folder, but there are several foreign emails that appear offering scam investments and giving bitcoin prizes which actually lead to phishing sites. this requires manual action to move it to the spam folder and delete or block the email sending the spam.

Regarding the malware, i wonder if it's both windows and android phones, same with IoS. Because most smartphone OS are invulnerable on such malware. But regardless, it should be taken seriously, either what device's OS the anyone is using.


Windows, Android and iOS are not immune, all have weaknesses, and scammers who make malware have also targeted what devices they want to attack. Usually, Windows users often become victims of some malware that will attack the system as described by the OP, namely Laplasp malware, new clipboard malware, and some malware that can infect files so they can be locked. Therefore, to avoid and prevent malware or viruses from infecting you, use an antivirus as initial protection so you don't get infected.
1124  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Reasons why the 95% of future traders lose all of their money on: November 15, 2022, 10:24:58 PM
There's a reason why a lot of successful traders use algorithms/bots/scripts to execute their trades — it's to take as much emotion as possible out of the picture.
I get a good point, you are correct on this. Basically, uncontrolled emotions can make traders lose money in the market, whether it's in futures or spot trading. Emotion management is a must have for every trader, but if they use tools like bots then it will be very helpful.

Watching market volatility during trading will allow anyone to lose control of their emotions, especially if the market is undergoing a sharp correction.

Bots only help to do work that humans cannot do for 24 hours, this will indeed reduce the emotional level in trading because execution has been replaced by bots according to the settings we did at the beginning.
But don't rely completely on bots, because that's not good either.
In addition to risk management, financial management also needs to be considered because not all money is used for trading, there will be some reserves to deal with unwanted events.
1125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: November 15, 2022, 07:18:53 PM
Maybe Ronaldo could have been right about not being played if the took the right path, he could have just whined about the situation constantly and he would have been right. But then leaving the field? Saying you wont come off the bench? Blaming the manager to media? Saying bad things about the owners? There is no return from this, he is gone. He will never play in United ever again and from here on out he just needs to try to focus on finding another team. Not really smart thing to do when you are still on that team, if he really wanted to say these things, he should have done it after he left the club.

Ronaldo may have been fed up with the treatment he received at United, even the staff and some players began to highlight Ronaldo and began to hate him, especially Erik Ten Hag who was reluctant to deal with Ronaldo anymore and hoped that Ronaldo would leave soon.
More on the bench made Ronaldo look bad and couldn't be productive. Ronaldo doesn't respect Erik ten hag because he doesn't respect him as a main player.

Cristiano Ronaldo is most likely to leave Manchester United in the January 2023 transfer market, after carrying out an attack on the Red Devils.
Cristiano Ronaldo openly admits that he was betrayed by Manchester United, the club he loves so much. If it's true that you move to the 2022 World Cup, where will Cristiano Ronaldo move to?
1126  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Make sure that you read the new Important Announcements topic by theymos on: November 15, 2022, 06:21:05 PM
~snip~, to me OP is just creating a repetition of what everyone is already aware of but nevertheless i think someone may be find it as a reminder.

Of course, this is a repetition of information and also a reminder. I didn't even notice that theymos embedding some pretty important up-to-date information related to recent events.
There's nothing wrong with the OP about a non-breaking loop, it's a reminder to those who don't focus on the main embed. and this thread also helps us all discuss what theymos explained because in the main thread the thread can only be seen and cannot comment.

Discussing the essence of the announcement, Theymos reminds us not to save our money or assets in online accounts that we cannot fully control. It is best to store it in a private wallet which of course only we have access to. Bankruptcy will occur if we keep all the money or assets in an online account and the account website disappears and goes bankrupt, then our money will also disappear.
1127  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Need Some Good Adivces on: November 15, 2022, 05:10:12 PM
~snip~ That is the one that we must avoid. Our forum is pack of information but sometimes they are scattered and not compiled in one thread.

There are also people who is just slow to comprehend things if they are only reading it but they think they can easily digest the information if they are only watching and listening to it. That is why many people prefer youtube tutorials.

I personally understand that a tutorial on youtube needs to be practiced directly, if only watching until the end it will be difficult to digest. But it's different when reading with text, everything I read is easy to understand because my imagination about the things described is clearly illustrated in my brain. Everyone has a different way of capturing and understanding things. there are several methods that can be done especially with videos.
and for a complete collection of information, this forum is the most complete place for blockchain and cryptocurrency knowledge, but it takes effort to find some suitable threads and read carefully to understand them.
1128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / SBF said: WHAT HAPPENED? on: November 15, 2022, 02:52:22 PM
SBF is a terrible parasite in the crypto ecosystem. He said What Happened as if he didn't care about what was happening right now. He looked relaxed and was probably drinking coffee and leaning back in his chair.

"[NOT LEGAL ADVICE.  NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE.  THIS IS ALL AS I REMEMBER IT, BUT MY MEMORY MIGHT BE FAULTY IN PARTS.]"

"I'll get to what happened.  But for now, let's talk about where we are today."


WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT


Investors lost $8 billion in response to only with words" WHAT (f*ck*ng) HAPPENED"

https://twitter.com/SBF_FTX/status/1591989554881658880

1129  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What are alternative no kyc exchanges since FTX is gone... on: November 14, 2022, 07:45:01 PM
~snip~If a place doesn't ask for your KYC that means they don't really care about the laws, and they just operate in a pirate way, which means if they are "hacked" like all the many that happened so far, there is absolutely nothing you can do, and all of that money is gone. Which is why it’s too dangerous.

it's such a tough choice to make. When we do KYC, our personal identity will be known and we are afraid that it will be misused, but when a hack occurs, the possibility to get assets back may go well because everything is recorded and has been protected by an official legal entity. but when there is no KYC and there is no legal entity that regulates it, when hacked or exchanges steal our assets, then there is nothing we can do, because they are indeed illegal and no legal entity can catch them. Of course, this will be a difficult thing to choose, depending on which is more important.
1130  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: In trading and Investment you need to know one thing on: November 14, 2022, 02:42:59 PM
Now If we look that way trading and Investment we know sure thing Are WHALES whales Are king in Investment markets and trading.
Not true. Whales are same with smaller trader and investors. The difference is they use their money and asset to affect the market the way they wanted it to be. You could say that they can manipulate some of the event or outcome based on the market movement. They just ride the news that splurge the community.

One thing is for sure they also make mistakes and given an opposite result and not all the time they can win it.

The pope manipulates any news well and they even have a special media that is used to spread some FUD san News that is deliberately made. The pope gains a lot from the manipulation. The whales will buy more bitcoins when the market has crashed enough, when they have bought they will start to manipulate the market again. Our psychology as small traders will also be played.
and as for some of the wrongs, the pope has committed, of course it could have happened. Because nothing will work perfectly, the crypto market cannot be completely controlled either. The Pope wants a lot of profit in every market movement.
1131  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Reminders to all Crypto Lovers on: November 14, 2022, 10:13:01 AM
Unfortunately, these days you don't even need to have anything like p2p to scam people. You could have a website that is looking "legit" but in reality, would be a ponzi scheme.

Most commonly, for many years people put their money into many exchanges, and exchanges didn't protect themselves carefully and got "hacked", we can't really know if they were hacked or they just stole our money but the result were the same.

This means that we saw a lot of money put their money as a whole, the "business" worked as intended for many years, but then one day suddenly they just stopped and took our money and left. That’s the scary part and it could happen and that type of scam is horrible.

Exchanges claiming to be hacked are just an excuse to take all the assets of their users. Just look at the several incidents that stated the exchange was hacked without any solution to restore the user's assets in total. and There are also cases of exchange founders who faked their deaths and made off with a lot of money so easily. Exchange is currently not safe anymore, many cases have occurred so users are also worried and don't want to put all their money in.

It's a profitable business for exchange founders. declared the exchange hacked, bankrupt and other things, and the case closed. it's so scary. This is the genius of a big scam, a big scam for which it is not clear whether the founder will be punished and compensated or not.
1132  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My reason to be in btc on: November 14, 2022, 07:55:50 AM
~snip~If you are the type that measures the success of bitcoin by its price, then you are wallowing in the wrong mindset, bitcoin project is successful, it doesn't matter what the price is, so please, do not measure the success of bitcoin by its value in USD, that value is just an added advantage.

The price of bitcoin is just a number that will give you an advantage because its value is more expensive. While the success of bitcoin can be measured by the growing adoption of bitcoin in several countries. Those who only say bitcoin is successful because of price certainly have the wrong mindset and if the bitcoin price crashes like it is today they will also say bitcoin has failed.
The bitcoin community, bitcoin users and developers develop and support bitcoin to remain the best and most decentralized digital asset.
1133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: investment in bitcoin should be short term or long term. on: November 14, 2022, 07:23:39 AM
i am a newbie in bitcoin, and i plan to buy bitcoin,, and will invest in bitcoin, and i want to ask everyone? if investing in bitcoin is it better short term or long term??? but in my opinion, long-term investment is better, but what do you think?

This depends and this kind of principle should be applied in all kinds of investments.

Be wary that investing into cryptocurrencies are risks that must be controlled and taken advantage off. Given that they are volatile in nature, you can either accumulate tons of profit short/long-term depending on the market price. But if there is one thing that must be taken into consideration, you should definitely consider short-term investment or as soon as you see your initial investment profit. If there is one thing that I learned from BTC, that is to never be greedy!

Risk is the most important thing to pay attention to. short-term or long term depending on how you can take advantage of every opportunity properly. Crypto has high volatility and this is its main risk, fast price fluctuations can be used for short-term trading and for the long term it may be possible to target a predetermined price. Greed is a trait that will be detrimental to any investment, as long as greed cannot be controlled, there will be no profit to be had.
1134  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Vs Cash which is more secure on: November 13, 2022, 07:03:49 PM
I agree with what you said, there is no need to compare them to see which one is better than the other. In case you are looking for an inflation-resistant asset store or an investment that can make profits, then bitcoin is a great option but for daily spending, paying bills, I think fiat is more perfect in this situation. It can be said that they are two completely different things so they cannot be compared on the scale. Fiat will never go away even if it's worse than bitcoin, it's true and we will never stop using it.

the two will never be able to compare which one is greater and which one is worse. both of them have advantages and disadvantages that will complete every transaction. Fiat and Bitcoin become payments that can coexist and complement each other; i. Bitcoin without Fiat will not work because most people still need Fiat whether it's Cash or Digital. and Fiat without Bitcoin will also yield nothing because profitable investment is in Bitcoin or crypto for most investors nowadays. for security issues, it also depends on the user. but Bitcoin is admittedly safer for storage because we have full control, fiat will still be affected by the government. but even so, all have their own risks and benefits.
1135  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Celsius, Terra, FTX Crash All Are Prove That Bitcoin Is The Only Trusted Crypto on: November 13, 2022, 06:24:08 PM
He ended up donating a millions of dollars to the political campaign of democrats in USA, millions of dollars which I suspect could have changed the situation of thousands of clients who now see their funds stuck in their account. Quite selfish of him, to be honest.

the millions of dollars he donated to political campaigns in the US let us know what the true character of the SBF is. However, when the FTX exchange collapsed Biden did nothing, it became clear that Biden didn't want to meddle in SBF matters and didn't want to get his hands dirty. SBF started to get into politics only used when the brand needed it. the rest have to work alone until they go bankrupt.


Not only Bitcoin, If you check the general state of the market these days, you can notice there has been a downhill trend since the news on the collapse of FTX were known, there are few exceptions. It is true Bitcoin lost some value because of this, but the worst part was given to those holding the FTT token, it is already beyond -90% in value only this week. Another reason to stay away from CEFI tokens altogether.

Of course, the most affected FTT tokens can no longer be saved. besides that FTT tokens belonging to FTX users are also held and cannot be taken, if they can withdraw it I am sure the price will be even worse than it is now.
1136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 13, 2022, 07:55:59 AM
both teams have the same match record this season. both have 27 points from 14 matches, 8 won, 3 draws, and 3 lost. it is very difficult to predict the victory of this match. both are in not-so-good form from the results of their last match. Freiburg is playing at home, they have the advantage mentally. but Union not be considered weak. they were pretty good at the start of the season and Freiburg should anticipate the Union front line.
I will look at the odds for Union, if it matches I will probably bet on Union.

This time Freiburg will be up against a Union Berlin side with a lot to highlight about them this season. Union Berlin has a strong defense led by a very impressive Danilho Doekhi and a player from Holland, Sheraldo Becker, who is able to defend the defense solidly. Union Berlin and Freiburg have the same points, so this match will determine who will stay in the top 3 of the standings and who will drop down the standings.

TEAM News
- Kimberly Ezekwem is out with a muscle problem, while Manuel Gulde and Jonathan Schmid are both struggling with muscle injuries.
- Roland Sallai put on a mask to play after surgery on his eye socket, while Daniel-Kofi Kyereh battled a cold.
- With matches getting packed and fast-paced, coach Urs Fischer will have to see how his team reacts to a draw in midweek.
  He will continue to play without goalkeeper Frederik Rønnow who is out with a muscle problem and Andras Schafer who is battling a foot problem.
- Rani Khedira was suspended after picking up five yellow cards.

1137  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Celsius, Terra, FTX Crash All Are Prove That Bitcoin Is The Only Trusted Crypto on: November 13, 2022, 05:30:51 AM

~snip~In the end, FTX disaster was the product of greed and bad management by the people on the top of the company.

The lesson to learn here, besides the strength of Bitcoin over altcoins, it is the fact that we should not get greedy and pursue high yields at the cost of the self-custody or control over our satoshis. Do not get tempted by the papers, solvency and liquidity and the name of the people behind the projects which promise you high percentages.

At first, FTX's management, including its CEO, looked humble and put the interests of the poor and those in need at the forefront, but in reality it was just a camouflage to cover up their rottenness. the people who were at the top of the company made a lot of profit and now because of their own greed, the business has finally collapsed.
People who promise high percentages certainly have ulterior motives, moreover FTX is also an Exchange with the cheapest fees and it uses its users' money which continues to be used for other businesses.
Incidents like this should make us realize that nothing is truly safe and really protects our assets. Our assets are our responsibility, nothing will be safe as long as there is no full control. This incident was the dumbest bitcoin crash, because bitcoin was only affected.
1138  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bearish fud main account Bitcoin on Twitter on: November 12, 2022, 10:51:50 PM
It's not main Bitcoin account, it just has the @Bitcoin username, that's all. We know that it changed hands a couple of times and current owner is unknown AFAIK. It used to support Bitcoin Cash instead of real Bitcoin. It offers paid adverts as well. I wouldn't care much about what they write honestly. If you want to follow important Bitcoin news this forum is enough. It's very hard to find any readable, informative posts in Twitter anyway.
experienced people probably won't be swayed by the ravings of unofficial Twitter accounts. but for those who are new to the crypto market. and those who trade small on the exchange. Of course, it can affect the psychology of new traders.
It doesn't matter if the Twitter account is official or not. sometimes people who are new to the crypto market just follow social media accounts that share posts related to crypto. it's ignorance, but that's what's happening right now.

Moreover, this account has 5.6 million followers which will indirectly make it easy for anyone to believe and make news from the Twitter account always valid information. it will indeed affect the psychology of new traders or investors. there are many more accounts like this that are related to crypto and accounts with quite a lot of followers are sometimes used to spread FUD or manipulate news that is not valid. Even an account with a check mark that is an official account can't necessarily be trusted. So it's better to always check again regarding the news being spread, don't just look at it from one media, but compare it from all media so that the news can be more valid.
1139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who are those people that you don't want them to know you are a gambler on: November 12, 2022, 03:06:19 PM
I don’t really hide from anyone, because in my inner circle I know mathematics better than anyone, and if the conversation comes about gambling, I will talk about it in the language of mathematics. Accordingly, I am not afraid of being attacked by someone.
But in general, of course, I try to keep any aspect of my life closed, since I am not a public person, and the less others know about me, the better. The personal must remain personal. Gambling belongs to this in my opinion.

it will be a camouflage that your explanation of gambling is compared with mathematical knowledge, so it looks more logical. For those of you who are not the public type of person, of course it will be easy to cover up that you are a gambler. But when we talk about gambling, currently gambling is done freely online, such as slot gambling games and several other games.
Knowing that someone was a gambler, their mindset would undoubtedly go in a negative direction, but that isn't exactly true right now. There are many types of gamblers today, those who are really serious and understand gambling can manage well, but those who gamble just because they want to win they end up becoming addicts and spending a lot of money.
1140  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I talked with very smart person he told me about crypto people need to know on: November 12, 2022, 02:19:48 PM
If you trust so much on Binance, then better get BNB coins, these are the coins developed by Binance. So if you have so much trust on Binance, then BNB will be a great option. I really don’t have knowledge where you can get the stocks of the company, but yes holding BNB might be a better option for you. Moreover rather than Binance or BNB, i will support holding BTC or ETH, as per my perspective these have better future then other things.

Maybe he is a true Binance fan and a big believer in Binance. Holding BNB was an option for him to continue supporting Binance. I don't know why he really believes in the exchange if you look at the current case. Even CZ was also the cause of the further collapse of FTX by failing to acquire FTX. This is a lesson for all of us that exchanges are no longer safe, don't keep all your money on the exchange. If an exchange has declared bankruptcy, what are we going to do? crypto is cruel when events like this happen.
The safest thing is to store in a private Wallet and only we can fully control it, and holding BTC and ETH is the best because the development is clear and without manipulatives from any internal party.
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