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521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: He Committed Suicide After Losing School fees, And That Of Friend To Betting.. on: June 08, 2023, 07:38:48 PM
This was not really a serious case that could have even taken him to serve life in prison, but he just decided to take the law into his own hands and committed suicide. What led to the suicide might be depression, which can really push someone to do the worst things. But the truth is that people who are now very good in gambling, have even had some of the worst experiences in the past too; some have even done things that took them to jail all because of gambling addiction, but they never committed suicide. To anyone reading, suicide is not the best way to end addiction; it can never create worthwhile scenes, just as the OP said. Some months ago, there was the case of a mother and son who also gambled off a huge amount of money that was not theirs; they were sentenced to prison to serve for some years.

This is even the reason why I always say that before one decides to do something, let them always think of the negative results that are very likely to occur and also how they can handle the negative results. If they have decided how to do so, let them go ahead with their decision. If it were me, perhaps I could just ask my parents to forgive me and assist me to repay my friend's school fee, then forget about assisting me in school again if they want. Just my opinion 🤞.

Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

This will apply when the child has assistance from parents or close people about the gambling they are doing.
It's very sad when you always read news like this, where a teenager commits suicide because he loses at gambling.
As in the case of suicide due to gambling described by Op, I also found the same case, namely a 19-year-old teenager who committed suicide by setting himself on fire as he left a gambling establishment. he loses at gambling and is visibly frustrated by dousing himself in gasoline and setting himself on fire.

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522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Apple Vision Pro and its Implication in Online Gambling on: June 08, 2023, 05:49:42 PM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic.

This is a stupidly overpriced product. But it may sell well due to Apple's branding. But I don't see any impact on the gambling industry unless someone wants to experience casino in metaverse. Usually seasoned gamblers will not want to experience this, rather they would like to focus on the game to make money.

For some newbie gamblers, who had never experienced casino, they might want to try this just to experience it. At the end of the day, entire metaverse concept is rubbish and it will eventually die down.

The Metaverse Casino is pretty interesting, but some of the Metaverse projects aren't just Apple Vision. Even before Apple Vision came out, there were a lot of cheaper VR products out there. Apple Vision is priced at $ 3500 and this is certainly quite expensive.
For those who want to experience the Metaverse presented by Apple, maybe price won't be a problem. But for some people spending that much money just for a device that is not very useful, they certainly won't do it. Of course there will be many similar devices that are cheaper.
523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 08, 2023, 05:04:56 PM
Snip.
Jose Mourinho has a clear vision and mission and even though Roma is not a wealthy team that has a lot of money, so far the Roma team has improved a lot after the last 2 seasons when coached by Jose Mourinho.
but now Mourinho has been rumored to move to another team, there is a team that is eyeing him, namely PSG, I really regret it if the coach leaves because it is very likely that Rome will fall back if left by Jose Mourinho.
Mourinho arrival was a blessing for Roma, he managed to make Roma able to compete in the European league in the last two seasons, one of which was successful in bringing home a trophy. It looks like Mourinho will stay in Rome next season, he has devised a plan to build a more solid Roma squad. Roma have prepared 8 million euros to recruit Mauro Icardi, Mourinho also asked El Shaarawy to stay in Rome.
Mourinho's magic will have an impact on Roma appearance, in his hands Roma are increasingly being counted on in the hunt for the top 4 positions. Next season there will be a new surprise from Mourinho if he succeeds in adding to Roma's strength in the transfer market.

Mourinho is a coach who really became a hero for AS Roma.
Jose Mourinho is also very loved by As Roma fans and vice versa. In the match against Spezia with a score of 2-1, Jose Mourinho made a celebration that made the fans look excited by going down to the field and greeting the fans after the game. Then he gave a gesture that he would stay at the Olimpico
Then he gave a gesture that he would stay at the Olimpico and would stay at AS Roma and negotiations on extending his contract which would be completed in June 2024.
524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I am only trying to stay safe by gambling less on: June 08, 2023, 03:52:49 PM
Both gambling and investing in bitcoins are risky but the difference is that if you lose gambling your funds will be gone immediately and your balance will be zero. But if you invest in Bitcoin, even if the price of Bitcoin goes down, you can hold it for a long time and at some point it will recover your losses and give you a profit. So investing in Bitcoin and gambling are not the same.  Investing in bitcoins will save you some money but gambling and losing will not save your money in any way. So if you can stay away from gambling it will be great for you but you can continue to invest in Bitcoin but in this case you must be patient and hold Bitcoin for long time.
Yeah, as long as you still hold and not sell your Bitcoin during dump season, you're not lose, but it's still an unrealized lose.

The @OP is promoting gambling site, it's hilarious if he need to stay away from gambling because he need to gamble, exploring and know about it as his campaign need to post in gambling section. If @OP want to stay away from gambling, he need to avoid anything related with gambling in the first place. But it doesn't mean gambling is bad, gambling is good if you have a good self control and money management.
It is okay if he promotes a gambling site because he has the choice to gamble or not. And if he chooses not to gamble, so much the better for him because he can save money for other things. But if he decides to use some of his money to gamble, that's fine too. At least he can have a gambling experience like the others, but he has to have self-control and everything else so he doesn't become addicted to gambling in the future. And it would be even better if he used his money to invest in bitcoin so he can get a chance to profit when the bull market arrives.

@OP seems a bit different indeed, promoting a gambling site but he doesn't gamble and doesn't want to do it. Indeed, this is only a choice of gambling or not. But if the Op chooses to leave gambling and invest in Bitcoin that is also a good choice. Crypto investment will be made in the long term and it will provide more value. But I myself would probably do some gambling using just a little money as entertainment. This will require self-control so that gambling is not addictive and costs a lot of money.
525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What if social media apps start launching their own cryptocurrency? on: June 08, 2023, 03:24:42 PM
Not only the SEC saw the potential problem of having their own crypto but people never see it as vital and necessary. We have thousands of cryptocurrencies existing already, so why not have their support on that project and carried them to grow rather than creating their own? The failure that happens to FB means a lot and it gives a lesson that it was not that easy for these social media to create without a convincing reason as people still don't give their support.
Supporting other cryptos doesn't seem to be an option for big social media like Twitter and Facebook. whether they want to get more profit or not, but follow-up about crypto on social media is nothing was really done. It's as if they stopped supporting crypto.
Now Twitter is owned by Elon musk and twitter will definitely support several crypto assets such as Bitcoin and DOGE which are elon musk's favorite crypto.
The potential for social media for crypto is still there, and the future of crypto still has a long way to go. there will be lots of changes that could happen.
526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What if social media apps start launching their own cryptocurrency? on: June 07, 2023, 08:19:17 PM
If popular apps like Facebook and Twitter make crypto currencies, they will be hit by government regulations because they already have their own stocks and are already traded on the exchange.


In fact, there are already several Altcoins that build decentralized social media platforms, such as Deso
You can check out some Altcoins that build social media platforms on Coinmarketcap

Government regulations are indeed strict and it will be discussed by the SEC. Facebook and Twitter already have shares and they have benefited from it and from various sponsors. There is no use for them as big social media to create their own tokens. Instead of wanting to create their own crypto ecosystem, it will add problems. Facebook almost did that with Meta, but a lot of people didn't support it and finally facebook dropped it.
527  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Understanding the Dynamics of growing in ranks in the forum on: June 07, 2023, 07:34:07 PM
It’s no longer surprising to me that newbies know about merit and are much interested in increasing their merit number because most claim to have been lurking around the forum before registering an account. If you have been reading a lot as you say, you should have found threads where this topic have been discussed.

The only way to get merits is to engage topics and make on-topic contributions to the discussion. Do not plagiarize and avoid making off-topic comments.

But there are also many beginners who eventually give up because they don't get any merit at all because their contributions are lacking and don't provide responses that are appropriate to the topics discussed.
To be able to get merit depends on how we contribute, if it is useful for the forum then it will be easy to do. and plagiarism is also found a lot and comes from newbies and in the end they will be ignored.
528  Economy / Services / Re: Roobet.com | Art Contest "Metaverse" | $5000 up for grabs! ~ Ends July 10th! on: June 07, 2023, 06:46:31 PM
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529  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 07, 2023, 09:18:14 AM
There are rumors that Messi will join Al Hilal, but his father wants to delay it for a year so that Messi can play for Barcelona for one more season. Will Messi go straight to Saudi Arabia? Or will he make a stopover in Barcelona first?

Messi tried to tell al hilal's delegation for that decision, but al hilal doesn't agree with it. The delegation from al hilal was telling him back now or never. Al hilal will be only offering very big amounts of contract for him this season. Not for the upcoming season.

However, the Saudi representatives told Messi their offer next year will be different from the €500-million-per year (£435m/$541m) deal currently on the table.

I hope that messi will not miss golden opportunity. Barcelona is a poor team. the club will not able to pay his salary. It's better for messi to join al hilal rather than back to the barcelona again.
Barcelona can't even raise 200 millions easily to fix its financial problem while all hilal has been offering more than it only for messi. It's stupid decision to miss it.

Several legendary players seem to be targeted by the Saudi Arabian League. But don't you see how CR7 is currently at Al Nassr who no longer has the prestige of being a world football star? In fact, a lot of bullying was directed at CR7, more and more haters because Cr7's performance was not optimal. Even Ronaldo himself is not comfortable in Saudi Arabia and wants to move from the country.
But somehow Messi's fate will be if he joins Al Hilal, will he get the same fate or not.
530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: He Committed Suicide After Losing School fees, And That Of Friend To Betting.. on: June 07, 2023, 08:45:34 AM
This is a big lesson for everyone. We must always remember we only use small money for gambling and we don't use the money for basic needs (ex: school fees). We are familiar with the words 'use money that we can afford to lose'. As long as we follow this rule, we won't experience severe losses like this case. And we also need to tell our family about our habits, including gambling activities. So, if there is something wrong with us, our family members can remind us and help us.
If someone can control himself in gambling, it won't be difficult to do. But the problem is when someone has played gambling too much, he can use more money because we know that playing gambling has many temptations and not many can resist being tempted.

Using the money we can afford is a sentence that we really have to remember and we shouldn't forget because that's what can make us really limit our gambling. And even though we can't control ourselves completely yet, we still have to try to control ourselves because we don't want to experience defeat and spend all the money we have.
There has been a lot of discussion about self-control and I even gave my own responses on self-control issues several times.
Maybe someone will become a responsible gambler and avoid unwanted things if they can have self-control, but to be honest I can't easily believe that a gambler can have self-control in every game session when gambling because they will get carried away so their thoughts will only 1 gamble and gamble.
Yes using money that can be received when it is lost is very important but in this case he is a teenager who is still in school where he can get some money from his parents so it is clear that it is difficult for him to be able to accept when the money used in gambling is lost .

Children who are still in school and have entered into gambling are no longer good and will have an impact on their education. It didn't matter where the money came from but the upbringing of his parents that made him into gambling. Gambling that ends up becoming an addict will result in extreme things such as suicide, even if it is done by students. Using their school money for gambling and losing, it would weigh heavily on the child's mind. the role of parents fails in educating children when something like that happens.
531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: would you play more on casino when your country plans to ban BTC? on: June 07, 2023, 08:09:43 AM
Fun fact in my country, the government ban gambling since long time ago but what is happening in the actual life? Many people in my country still do gambling almost every single day in online fiat casinos.
I don't really know the country that you are from, but most Islamic countries already ban gambling in their country, so citizens are not allowed to gamble, but people in the country are still gambling, the government can only ban gambling in the country, but citizens will always look for ways to gamble, the same thing applies to bitcoin trading, the government can only ban it, but citizens will look for ways to trade bitcoin.

the alternative way will be widely used. Even gambling has been banned from the start but using a VPN will overcome all that, even though using a free VPN is risky they still use it. Just like BTC if it is really banned and blocked then the same thing will be done. But for now, BTC may be prohibited as a legal tender but allowed as a trading tool.
532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 06, 2023, 11:54:33 PM
At least bringing Chelsea to a better position than now is considered good for Pochettino. But it is true that even in this case it is still possible but there is a lot of work waiting for him at the beginning of this season. The self-confidence and mentality of the players must be really improved because even though they are players who actually have extraordinary skills, but when their mentality is still the same as now, of course this will not be easy to navigate next season.
Apart from having to be able to improve mentally and hone the skills of Chelsea players for next season, Pochettino is also expected to be able to bring new tactics to the Chelsea team next season so that there will be an increase in team performance and also be able to reach a better position like this season. But the main target is to be in a better zone so that Chelsea can return to competing in other leagues such as the UCL or the Europa League.

Pochettino seems indeed to be overhauling the Chelsea squad for next season. Players like Pulisic seem likely to be dumped by Pochettino, but the 24-year-old is struggling to secure his place at Chelsea.
Pulisic has only played 10 games for Chelsea this season, While his only goal this season came in a 3-0 win over Wolves in October. Chelsea under coach Mauricio Pochettino will trim the Blues squad ahead of next season. Pulisic is one of the players linked with the plan.
533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: There are a lot of scams on Twitter, and illegal links steal your assets. on: June 05, 2023, 06:03:38 PM
Whom who have some sense, will never join airdrop imo. As airdrops are not trusted  to me anymore. Now everywhere are scammers. Waiting for innocent people With their trap. They are new comers who mostly joining airdrop to earn money from crypto industry but become victim of malware attack and lost thier capital rather then income. They should know that, nothing is free in this world right now.

Nothing wrong with airdrop as long as you can keep yourself in the safe zone by trynig to avoid any suspicious link. You can only participate in the airdrop that being created by legit company. that will give you guarantee if you will not be scammed. A company with very good reputation will not try to destroy their reputation. This will become the basic thing before try to participate in the airdrop. That have been many trusted companies regularly making airdrop.

Which in essence we have to do research before taking part in the airdrop. Many airdrops require connecting with their dApps and this can be dangerous if the airdrop turns out to be a trap. Many have fallen into a trap and in the end their assets have been taken over.
Airdrops from official companies will always be posted on their twitter and many people will start working on it. and lots of airdrops available right now, and some of them from new hype chains.
534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 05, 2023, 04:30:59 PM
The Newcastle team has been and continues to perform exceptionally well in this season's Premier League. But with no chance of securing the Premier League title this time around, Newcastle will be able to prepare remarkably for next season. Newcastle team will be stronger if they add some players to their squad.
The good thing for Newcastle and their fans is that they have achieved quite a lot this season without really spending too much, we all know they have the resources, and now that they have qualified for the CL, they can fully utilize it. I am pretty sure Newcastle would make very good signings this summer, good things are happening in the club, enough to attract really quality players. Having said that, next season will be tougher for them, they would be playing in four competitions, this is something they are not really used to, so they have to increase their squad depth in order to compete effectively.

Yep reportedly Newcastle will target several new players in the transfer window obviously they want to prove that they deserve to compete in the top 4 Premier League and even the Champions League, Eddie Howe wants to strengthen in the defense Kieran Tierney is one of their targets besides that the attacker is also a concern rumors Joao Félix may be on their target list it's just that this will not be easy because Atletico Madrid set a high price but yeh anything can happen because Newcastle has a considerable fund.

Rumors of Joao Felix seem to be growing, Atletico Madrid are reported to be lending Joao Felix to Newcastle United because they need players to face several competitions next season including the Champions League. However, Newcastle coach Eddie Howe said his club would not be offering big salaries to players that would make it difficult for them to sign the best players.
Meanwhile, the highest salary at Newcastle United is currently held by Kieran Trippier, Alexander Isak and Bruno Guimaraes, who each pocket 6.5 million pounds per season and that will be the maximum salary that Joao Felix will get if he is positively loaned out by Atletico. Madrid.
535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers understood the game on: June 05, 2023, 03:50:02 PM
That's right because we know the risks of gambling because we also feel the losses incurred will always be there in playing gambling. Emotions, obsession and also self-control are not spared by gambling players who always come to play even though they are experienced.
so I won't invite anyone to get involved even if the person is experienced, because I don't want to be blamed when the person feels uncomfortable or not used to using crypto. Unless they themselves come and want to know, and I can only explain as simply as possible according to existing knowledge, and that doesn't mean I recommend it.
Another question is whether the person or the gambler can accept all the risks? I do not think so.
people out there when they find out after we get a big win and ask to be given a way to gamble using crypto but they are only obsessed with your victory but when they get a loss they will get angry or worse chase the defeat and become an addict who ends up blaming you.
so that I myself also will not invite anyone to gamble in any type of crypto casino even though that person begs to tell me how to gamble using crypto.

After all, it wouldn't give any advantage to get someone to start gambling and risk their money just for the luck they haven't been able to get. Gambling or not is an individual choice. If they get too obsessed it will have a bad impact when they lose. Everyone really won't accept their defeat and blames more on someone who asked him to get involved in gambling. gamblers like that cannot understand the game and the risks that will occur.
536  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: June 05, 2023, 03:05:08 PM
That's why amount afford to lose is matter, people think when a celebrity lose $1 Million in gambling is really huge and he broke, it's wrong. $1 Million might just a peanut for them because it's only 0.1% of his monthly salary. While poor people see $1 Million is a life changing for them and they can live comfortable with that, maybe poor people only can afford less than $50 in a month for gambling.
back to the ability of each gambler and for me poor or rich, big budget or small budget is not the problem but regardless of the amount of budget for gambling, the most important thing is to be able to enjoy every betting session so that I can entertain myself and have fun without thinking about any benefits from gambling.
but unfortunately often this gambling budget is used as a benchmark for gamblers to get big wins or small wins from gambling. but it all depends on luck.

Forcing you to use a large budget will be a big risk, the loss will be in front of your eyes. it is no longer enjoying gambling, but really wants to try to get big profits, but will it be an advantage?
Of course it depends on everyone's luck. Gambling cannot be used as a place to make steady money, it will not be recommended by anyone.
must is the management of money used for gambling. Have to use a little money just to gamble, because it's only risking everyone's luck. never use the main money.
537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 04, 2023, 06:31:41 PM
In the Italian League today, the game between these two teams Napoli vs Sampdoria has started for some time. So far neither team has been able to score a goal. However, the players of both teams are trying hard to score.  So Napoli is now in the 1st position in the points table. And Sampdoria team is in the 20th position. In this match, Napoli team has more chances to win. I thought that Napoli might score 2 goals before halftime. But so far, Napoli has not scored any goals. what do you think. Napoli can score 2 goals in the next 2nd half?
Napoli definitely have the ability to score I think Napoli might score late in the second half of the game. Napoli don't really need to win this match. So Napoli is playing in this match in a dramatic way. Napoli is a team at the top of the Italian Premier League points table. And Sampdoria's position is at the bottom of the points table. It is not unusual for Napoli to score in the second half of the game
Even if Napoli don't win this match, they won't lose much.  But their reputation will suffer a bit here that despite being a top 1 team, they could not win match against a weaker 20th ranked team. Napoli got a penalty kick opportunity in 64' and took advantage of it to complete 1 goal.  And since there's still 14 minutes left in the game + some lost time, Napoli might score another goal in between. I think it is possible with Napoli

The match is not important for Napoli. But it would be a shame for Napoli to lose this match. Because Napoli is the title-winning team this season while Sampdoria is at the bottom of the table. Losing a home match against such a team is a real shame. However, Napoli players are performing well. From the beginning of the match, they continued to try to score. And right now Napoli are leading 2-0. The first goal was scored by Victor Osimhen and the second by Simeone. Possibly 2-0 so Napoli will win today.

2-0 is the final result of Napoli's victory, it is clear that the strengths of these two clubs are different. Napoli is at the top while Sampdoria is at the bottom. It's just an easy match for Napoli and Napoli added points so no one can overtake it at the top of the standings.
it can be seen from the 92% pass accuracy controlled by Napoli.


538  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: NEWBIES: A good way to start-up with crypto. on: June 04, 2023, 04:52:27 PM
~snip~Crypto trading takes time, effort, and experience to become a successful trader. Be patient, persistent, and committed to continuous learning and improvement. But to implement all these things, you need to study about the cryptos and acquire basic knowledge and technical skill by joining the relative forum and community support platforms.


from all the points you mention, about commitment and knowing basic knowledge is the beginning of it all. Because basic knowledge is an important start to know everything. Such as technical and fundamental analysis knowledge and what is crypto, investing and trading. Beginners shouldn't miss that because it will be the foundation of everything. A few years ago I did too, learned the basics and worked my way up to know how crypto works.
539  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: First time and how I got interested on it on: June 04, 2023, 04:17:41 PM
At least you're now here. It's common for others to take some time before finally deciding to start investing and learn about Bitcoin after being introduced to it. It's mostly because they are afraid of risking or they worry about being scammed but it's normal to be afraid since it involves money.

But you don't have to worry about the "opportunities you've missed" because even without you friend's help who introduced Bitcoin to you, you can still discover and learn things by researching or with the help of the forum. There are a lot of opportunities our here. Goodluck!

anything that involves money is sure to be worrying, especially for those who have never known about the new thing they are going to do. it is very natural when new people get into crypto and try to invest and learn about Bitcoin. Of course there are still many opportunities and now in my opinion is a good time to start entering, but before that do some analysis first. entering at any price on Bitcoin is profitable over the long term. Bitcoin journey is still quite long. and many new things will of course be found through this forum.
540  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: $90,000 all in bet on: June 04, 2023, 03:44:50 PM
I wonder how he felt after losing such a huge amount of money but surely he could have been in constant stress and frustration because big money was lost on the table. He's going to have a hard time recovering from previous losses but I think he'll keep trying and maybe he won't stop until he's managed to recover. Maybe he should take a break from betting for a few days and recover from the disappointment of losing it. But if he still decides to continue gambling, he can do so but must understand the risk of losing could happen again.
Disappointment is certain, even though he has more money but $90,000 is not a small amount for sure he will feel disappointed stressed and even worse will leave gambling for a long time.
I can't understand why someone like Op who has managed to double his fortune from $4k to $90,000 but still wants to double the risk again in a single bet ends up losing all the money.
Greed. That's the only reason. He wanted to earn more money than he already had, which was a lot of profit he could get.

He probably won't be able to get that amount again in one day as I'm sure it is due to his luck coming at the right time. But he can bet again with his remaining money and hopes to hit one big win. But I don't know because it also depends on analysis and luck. If he is lucky, he can win a lot of money. Otherwise, he would lose again.

A greedy person will never be satisfied, he will continue to think that it is lacking. want to get more profit without realizing that the risk will come and teach him the lesson that he will lose it all.
Hoping for one big win with one bet, it could make him filthy rich and could lose it all in a flash. And the analysis carried out will also have no effect if the opposing team has greater luck. Losing $90,000 for me would be unimaginable, I'd rather use my 10% to gamble and use the rest to build another business or trade crypto.
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