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1521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 06, 2016, 05:42:14 PM
1 LISK = 0.08712305 BTC
I PREDICT THIS PRICE BY CHRISTMAS  Grin
1522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 06, 2016, 05:37:22 PM
Wow Lisk just overtook ETH volume at 230 BTC.  Shocked
1523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 06, 2016, 05:34:28 PM
Shocked
Lisk already trading at $1.20
Team blue lambo represent
Lisk already trading at $1.44
Team white Lambo represent  Cheesy
1524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 06, 2016, 04:08:32 PM
So can we give Yobit a Bitcoin IOU if we set a buy order now?
1525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer on: April 06, 2016, 07:00:08 AM
So basically Elastic is a network where computational power can be used by other people such as researchers and scientists etc?

On the surface it will "feel" like mining: people invest computational resources and get Elastic Coins in exchange.
The central idea is, that scientists, researchers or anyone else who needs computational resources can "submit" his task to the network, pay a certain number of ELC, and have it calculated. Elastic basically provides a cryptographically secure method to make sure that the "scientist" gets his work done correctly and that the "miners" or "workers" (i call them this for now) get paid for the work they have done. All without a third party and all entirely secure.
Thanks for the quick info. Smiley
1526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ICOcountdown.com - See countdowns for crowdsales in real time on: April 06, 2016, 06:56:35 AM
I love your website for ICO dates. Finally a central place where people can check what's happening in the cryptocurrency space so we won't miss the train again.
1527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 06, 2016, 06:49:22 AM
how? the ico funds are in escrow... nobody can touch them until lisk mainnet launch...

Isn't it obvious ?

If Lisk launches on April 11, some people will pump n dump it on April 12 to buy Waves & receive their 1st day bonus of 20%from Waves:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1387944.0

By delaying Lisk launch to end of April, Waves has no chance at eating from Lisk Marketcap.

I'm pretty sure Waves won't raise more than $1M because of this.

Nice guess, but you forgot, that the ICO is still open in May ;-)

Indeed, but for many people it's all about the bonus, which they will miss.

This conspiracy is pure nonsense....who gives a fuck about those who need to pull out their investment in Lisk to participate in waves? who is so stupid to put all his BTC on 1 altcoin???
The big whales are still out there in the Waves and they are hungry...
That's exactly what I was saying a few pages back but some people thought it was stupid for some reason.  NEVER put all of your eggs in 1 basket. EVER. Always diversify.  Wink
1528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 06, 2016, 06:47:00 AM
how? the ico funds are in escrow... nobody can touch them until lisk mainnet launch...

Isn't it obvious ?

If Lisk launches on April 11, some people will pump n dump it on April 12 to buy Waves & receive their 1st day bonus of 20%from Waves:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1387944.0

By delaying Lisk launch to end of April, Waves has no chance at eating from Lisk Marketcap.

I'm pretty sure Waves won't raise more than $1M because of this.

For sure.
Yeah I was suspecting that too. Seeing that a lot of people including myself have Waves signatures and all. They want to halt the money that would flow out of Lisk and into Waves on the 12th. But they still can since it runs into may. They'll just miss that day 1 bonus if they don't have Bitcoin at the ready and need to sell Lisk to get some.
1529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer on: April 06, 2016, 05:35:23 AM
So basically Elastic is a network where computational power can be used by other people such as researchers and scientists etc?
1530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer on: April 06, 2016, 05:34:13 AM
Interesting.  Will be watching closely and maybe investing.  Smiley
1531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TBA] The Next Big Thing? #Edon #newTechnology! ICO Starting Soon on: April 06, 2016, 05:10:07 AM
Very interesting project that I just found today and read through the whole thread.  I want to invest in this and see where it goes.  Lisk, Waves, and now Edon.  Yes! I made 3 trains so far this year I'm so proud.  Cheesy  When is the ICO? And how much Edon would you get for 1 BTC and does the amount decrease when more investors show up?
1532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: April 06, 2016, 12:14:19 AM
How many Waves will I get for 1 BTC on Day 1?

Simple answer is not enough.
true but wish I had 11btc to invest sure to make your money back with ease is my guess

I think as Lisk is impossible to predict how many WAVES you will have until the end of the ICO.
I agree just like the Lisk ICO the amounts decrease the further you get into it.
1533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: April 05, 2016, 08:40:23 PM
How many Waves will I get for 1 BTC on Day 1?
1534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: April 05, 2016, 07:22:14 PM
Just came from Lisk thread and its insanity about the launch delay. I can't wait for the Waves ICO though. Definitely getting that Day 1 bonus. Cheesy
1535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 05, 2016, 07:17:37 PM
Its been delayed. Oh well. I guess 2 weeks won't hurt. I'll have some fun over at the Waves ICO on the 12th until then.  Grin
1536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: April 05, 2016, 08:25:24 AM
As an investor I'd feel scammed if I invested in Waves and here is why. On the just released blog message you wrote;

"What about blokchain tokens of our own? Do we want WAVES to be the value transfer token? NO: for that we have Bitcoin. Money transfer is the first killer app of blockchain technology. It won’t be the last, but still it will dominate blockchain tech for years to come. But one thing is obvious here, ONE (or a few) cryptocurrencies should be used as a currency, otherwise the network effect which is needed for something to be used as a currency will never be realised. We’ll be doing our bit to help Bitcoin become the first INTERnational currency (as opposed to NATIONAL currencies). It will be deeply integrated in our platform through a corresponding token, backed by Bitcoin multisig technology and a reputable Bitcoin exchange. It can’t be made fully decentralized for now, but we will integrate Bitcoin into a new ecosystem where it can be traded, in a decentralized way, against blockchain tokens — effectively creating a decentralized cryptocurrency exchange/crowfdfunding platform. Our killer feature is the ability to trade any token against another token on the blockchain (asset-to-asset). It opens up new dimensions for doing business on blockchains, effectively replicating traditional markets and making Bitcoin trading decentralized."

This implies that there will be absolutely nothing special or unique about Waves tokens, so why the hell should I invest in buying them? To me it just feels like investors got to put in a lot of money buying worthless Waves tokens so you guys can make an innovative platform. Seems to me it's not worth it to invest, like I mentioned in my previous posts, you got to give Waves tokens functionality. If you refuse to do so, it's like investing in air, it's nothing, it has no intrinsic value or purpose other than funding you guys... Undecided

No, that passage you just quoted does not imply that there will be nothing special about Waves tokens. Just to the contrary, indeed. That passage explains what makes Waves tokens special and unique. As you have quoted, and I suppose you have read the paragraph you quoted, "Our killer feature is the ability to trade any token against another token on the blockchain (asset-to-asset)."

So explain to me what can I do with Waves tokens on the platform that I can't do with bitcoin, dogecoin or shitcoin? Because the text seems to clearly imply that bitcoin will have special functionality and all other crypto currencies on the platform (including Waves tokens) are equal.?
You can't really do anything without WAVES tokens, since everything is run using them - all tx fees, all asset issuance and transfer, everything.
We will support other "money" crypto besides Bitcoin too ( DASH, Litecoin and Dogecoin seem to be a good choice now), but obviously Bitcoin transfers will dominate (at least in near future)
What can we do for Bitcoin - we enable decentralized trading against bitcoin. so it's like decentralized bittrex!

So I can't pay fees, issue assets or transfer assets with other crypto currencies or fiat tokens? Can you confirm this?
You can, but under the hood it always goes through the Waves token. You pay a fee in USD, at the same an order is sent to sell your USD and buy some Waves to pay the fee. USD is liquid so it goes through fast, and the fee is paid. If you try to pay with an illiquid asset you'll have to wait till it's sold

Hmmm now I am undecided again  Tongue .Let me rephrase it, if I don't own any Waves tokens and I am not planning on buying any Waves tokens ever, will I be able to pay fees, issue assets or transfer assets on the Waves platform? Or are you saying, if you pay a fee in say USD it automatically gets converted into Waves tokens? sorry if I sound like a broken record, but I need to be absolutely sure  Wink
Yeah I'm wondering too. These are things everyone needs to know in non technical terms to get a grasp of what its all about at the very basic level. That will instill confidence in investors.
1537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 05, 2016, 07:36:01 AM
I really wish I would have bought more during the ICO.  Cry

When Lisk reaches $10 in next few weeks, you'll be saying: "I really wish I would have bought more on April 11.  Cry"

The best time to buy Lisk was during the ICO. The second best time is April 11   Smiley


Yeah I wish I could have bought more too.  Cry  I'm predicting $10 by August. $15-20 by Christmas.  Wink
1538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 05, 2016, 04:54:33 AM
There's a great future for this project.
Active community.
Diligent developers.
I am glad to have been part of the ICO.

yup, better believe...$1.02 at launch.
I totally agree! If no one decides to sell under $1 at launch that price will be the FLOOR.  Cheesy
1539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: April 05, 2016, 02:56:02 AM

They have Bitcoin and Voxel (uphold created). If they wanted more profit, they would add ETH and other currencies in due time. Unknown if that's in their plans, so if WAVES can get the not even born atomic trade functionality working, might be a selling point. But right now it's just in the idea stage. How's WAVES going to get this ready , even as a test by summer, if it's dependent on another groups' work?


Gee, look at this..

http://themerkle.com/uphold-will-add-litecoin-and-ethereum-soon/


From my quick understanding after looking at uphold's website, it only act as a financial reserve in some curency and assets (such as gold).
Can you crowfund your project in a decentralized way using uphold and then trade the asset on a blockchain ?
If no then uphold and waves have a very different design.
If yes can you provide me with a link so I can check it out ? (real question)

Thanks
Exactly. Waves is more futuristic.
1540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: LISK price speculation on: April 05, 2016, 01:40:16 AM
What is a large amount in your opinion?

I'm selling at $1
This should be everyones floor for selling 1 Lisk. I personally won't sell a large amount under $10.
10,000-20,000 or more.
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