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381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: September 28, 2014, 05:06:49 PM
I think I'll start mining curecoin again Smiley

Awesome, welcome back! Smiley

Dev - Last Active:   August 25, 2014, 02:19:13 AM

coin dead?

Nope, Josh (Cygnus-XI) doesn't use BTCTalk anymore. He's still very active on IRC (Freenode #curecoin), and the project is still very alive.
382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set on: September 24, 2014, 12:43:37 PM
Is anyone else seeing things stuck on block 707?  No new block for an hour?

Block 752 here.
383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: September 21, 2014, 04:05:01 PM

4.) There will be a limited amount of coins that can be minted using certificate mining (however this will be stretched out over a very long period of time, and will be practical for encouraging computational research far into the future). If we implement a Proof-Of-Stake model, then we will see some form of interest, which will be rate-limited, but not limited to an actual final quantity. Hopefully that makes sense, let me know if you'd like me to clarify that one.


Thank you for your answers. I have some follow up questions regarding this point.

Why put a limit on the amount of coin to be minted using the certificate mining? I understand it will be stretch over a very long time but why have the limit in the first place? Why not  make it rate-limited somehow without a limited final quantity? Having it finite means that there will be a point in time in the future that would deem certificate mining unprofitable and people, being financially incentivized, will move from it to more profitable venues. Be it 10 days from now or 10 million years from now, that point in time will come and people will move away. Could you please elaborate more on the decisions to set a limit on coin mined with certificate mining and the thought process behind them ?

Thank you

Yeah, this part isn't actually set in stone, so if other people have input on this, don't be shy! Had a discussion with Cygnus and Cujo about this last night. Smiley

I'm thinking the best path might be a compromise between people wanting a set-limit system and an actual currency's behavior. Bitcoin and almost every other cryptocurrency has some finite limit to it's mintage, attractive to investors as it is scarce, similar to a commodity. On the other side, fiat currencies are designed in such a way that their mintage is based on a lot of factors including population, and tend to become less valuable over time, per unit. As a result, a compromise would be a very long mintage schedule with an extremely gradual decline, so the coin is still generated at a predictable rate, but is still limited in supply in a given period of time.
384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Curecoin 2.0 Questions on: September 19, 2014, 12:46:58 PM
Hi

I am working on a couple of projects that I would like to integrate Curecoin in as I believe in what it stands for. Having said that, I'm hesitant to work on incorporating it at the time being when knowing there is a complete rewriting of the source code coming in Curecoin 2.0 . The projects i'm implementing rely heavily on the RPC API calls and on multisig transactions.

I have the following questions:

1- will Curecoin 2.0 support multisig addresses and transactions ?

2- will Curecoin 2.0 support RPC calls like the current client does? Will it provide the current API calls and add new ones or should I wait until the client is released and work with a complete new set of API calls? I don't want to waste time and energy by implementing applications relying on an API that will be outdated and deprecated on the next release.

3- Aside from the folding/research computations for the proof of work, will curecoin 2.0 have another system to maintain the security of the network? Possibly Proof of Stake like Peercoin (a coin I believe in the ideals behind it like I do in Curecoin) http://peercoin.net/minting  ? or Proof Of Resources like which is a new concept that is quite interesting to be used by Safecoin, a coin still in development http://www.safecoin.io/ ? I read in the article http://curecoinfolding.com/progress-updates-p2p-networking/ that a Proof of Capacity is being considered but i couldn't find more information on the topic of Proof of Capacity. Could you please elaborate on what other means of securing the network aside from doing the research computations will be?

4- will there be a set limit on the amount of curecoins generated like in the case of Bitcoin or will it have an inflationary and deflationary aspects that will balance each other like in the case of Peercoin without a preset cap on curecoins?

5- I come to understand that for research to be added, the researchers will have to setup a centralized certificate issuing entity for validation. How could research that is completely decentralized be included in Curecoin with the proposed certificate model? An example of decentralized research computations that doesn't require a central authority is the search for prime numbers like in the case of Primecoin http://primecoin.io/ . How would such research be included in the curecoin model without a central authority issuing certificates? I could see great potential in merging primecoin with the Curecoin 2.0. You would probably get all the supporters of Primecoin migrate to Curecoin 2.0 if the same kind of computation could be used a form of research computation used for mining Curecoin 2.0.

Looking forward to hearing back from you


Hey Indigo, good questions!

1.) Yup, full support for multisig addresses/transactions will be available. The process behind it will likely have to change due to the signature scheme we are working on, so there may be multisig 'accounts,' in which the blockchain has a written record of all the addresses involved in a multisig account, and can apply appropriate verification rules to make it behave similar to multisig. This will also allow you to sign on additional parties to the account.

2.) Curecoin will have a new API, since so much under the hood is changing. While we don't currently have a RPC reference of any sort, we're rebuilding the structure of interfacing with the daemon from scratch, so while some RPC calls will be very similar in function, there will be far more complicated ones to account for additional features.

3.) The blockchain should be secure enough using only a certificate system, given that certain rate-limiting rules are integrated into every node. However, I'm not opposed to putting some kind of Proof of Stake or Proof of Capacity into the currency. If you would like to look at a current example of Proof-Of-Capacity, check out Burstcoin. Smiley

4.) There will be a limited amount of coins that can be minted using certificate mining (however this will be stretched out over a very long period of time, and will be practical for encouraging computational research far into the future). If we implement a Proof-Of-Stake model, then we will see some form of interest, which will be rate-limited, but not limited to an actual final quantity. Hopefully that makes sense, let me know if you'd like me to clarify that one.

5.) Unfortunately the design of a certificate system would require some authority to issue the certificates. For a very specific set of mathematical research, the solutions could be proven in the blockchain, however we don't plan to implement that feature, unless we can find a robust way to do so. Our logic essentially follows that *most* ground-breaking research requires fairly significant human intervention, from creating the workunits to be crunched for protein folding to developing climate predictions based on variables that scientists want to manipulate to best study their subject area. The few exceptions to such research are of course ones like Primecoin or Riecoin where the network looks for numbers that fit a given pattern that can be verified by the network. In order to do so, the Curecoin network would need a means of validating the work submitted, which, given the scope of potential research offered by deterministic work generation, doesn't seem terribly practical. That being said, if an extremely interesting research project which could behave in a decentralized manner was developed, the validation of that project could be added in a similar manner as adding an additional university to the network--and would require a client update.

385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: September 18, 2014, 02:29:12 PM
Any kind of ETA for CC 2.0?

I'd like to say it'll be fully released by February (full crossplatform GUI, crossplatform daemon, exchanges, cc1.0<->2.0 trade working, etc.), and we'll have public (no value) betas before that, but you know how software development goes. I also don't know how much time it'll take to get universities on-board and signing certificates, but if the community is fine with it, we could be the issuing authority until the universities are ready to switch over. I'm not a huge fan of that idea, but it's on the table.
386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: September 18, 2014, 12:09:30 AM
Congrats on position #7 in the F@H standing everyone!  In about 5 days and we will have the #6 spot as well!   Grin

Moving right along! Cheesy
387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: September 15, 2014, 07:55:28 PM
Took a break from coding curecoin core to do a bit of preliminary GUI mockups. This is what I came up with:



I would right-Align the numbers in the upper and lower section of the screen. Easier to read.



Ah good point, I'll fix that. Smiley


Hey guys, is this somehow related to you ? - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781352.0

Similar idea, however we are completely unaffiliated.
388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: September 15, 2014, 12:57:38 AM
Took a break from coding curecoin core to do a bit of preliminary GUI mockups. This is what I came up with:

389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient POC Mining | New multipools on: September 09, 2014, 12:24:49 AM
How long would 4TB take to plot on a last gen i7 mobile? Anyone know how many nonces/second and how long it would take? How could I calculate this?

Don't wanna waste my time.

You're probably looking at somewhere between 4 and 5 days, depending on how good of a mobile i7 you have.
390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient POC Mining | New multipools on: September 08, 2014, 08:32:28 PM
Is there any wiki/repository on plot speed vs cpu?

Not that I know of. Here's some basic performance metrics on Centos 6.5 with dcct's linux plotgen:
i5-2400: 3400 nonces/min
E5-2560v2: 7000 nonces/min
E5-2670v2: 7100 nonces/min
2xE5-2560v2: 13900 nonces/min
i7-3770k: 4300 nonces/min
FX-8350 @ 4.2GHz: 3500 nonces/min
391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: September 08, 2014, 07:06:32 PM
Hey guys, thanks for the interest in MintPal! I'm afraid Curecoin is too low-volume right now to float on MintPal unfortunately, and I doubt MintPal would be likely to re-add a coin that they already delisted due to low trading volume.

If enough people are interested, I'll reach out to MintPal, but I was personally planning to wait until the volume began to pick up a bit more, maybe closer to cc2.0 release, when we have some solid pieces of infrastructure proven working, and there is more community interest.

I didn't know CureCoin had been on MintPal before.  Oops!  I thought we was on the voting page for MintPal and then they discontinued the voting process but I was quite busy for a while and apparently missed it.  In any event, waiting for cc2.0 or sometime near it is fine with me.  Their new volume requirements are actually quite low now so delisting shouldn't be an issue in the future.

Yeah I hope CureCoin 2.0 brings in more interest.  It's a great cause and I thought a lot more people would be on-board and stay on-board.  That isn't to say team CureCoin hasn't been doing great.  I just thought a lot more GPU's would find there way here when they couldn't "mine" other coins profitably anymore.  Hopefully cc2.0's changes will bring in more people and keep them.  In the mean time I'll just keep accumulating cc1.0's.

Oh, we were never on Mintpal. Just don't want to get added and then delisted due to low volume. Smiley
392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient POC Mining | New multipools on: September 08, 2014, 03:46:42 AM
I have 4TB drives available to start generating plots immediately (which would take 2-3 days to complete) after which I could ship the drive. For other capacities, I would have to wait a few days for shipping to me first, so a 6TB drive would likely ship from me in about a week. The included shipping is UPS ground, though if you wanted the drive faster I can offer faster shipping for an additional fee.

What about renting?  Do you have plots ready to go for that?

For solo or pool mining, I would need to generate the plots for your own address, so unfortunately I can't pre-generate plots. However, I can deploy storage very quickly in the cloud.
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient POC Mining | New multipools on: September 08, 2014, 02:56:11 AM
For anyone interested in purchasing pre-plotted external hard drives, or renting cloud mining for USD/BTC/BURST:

http://www.vorksholkms.com/

How long will it take you to ship the drive?

I have 4TB drives available to start generating plots immediately (which would take 2-3 days to complete) after which I could ship the drive. For other capacities, I would have to wait a few days for shipping to me first, so a 6TB drive would likely ship from me in about a week. The included shipping is UPS ground, though if you wanted the drive faster I can offer faster shipping for an additional fee.
394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: September 08, 2014, 12:45:46 AM
Hey guys, thanks for the interest in MintPal! I'm afraid Curecoin is too low-volume right now to float on MintPal unfortunately, and I doubt MintPal would be likely to re-add a coin that they already delisted due to low trading volume.

If enough people are interested, I'll reach out to MintPal, but I was personally planning to wait until the volume began to pick up a bit more, maybe closer to cc2.0 release, when we have some solid pieces of infrastructure proven working, and there is more community interest.
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient POC Mining | New multipools on: September 07, 2014, 11:04:45 PM
For anyone interested in purchasing pre-plotted external hard drives, or renting cloud mining for USD/BTC/BURST:

http://www.vorksholkms.com/
396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient POC Mining | Update to 1.0.3 before block 6500 on: September 06, 2014, 06:36:33 PM
Is there a way I can generate plots on a cloud server? How and where?
Yeah, you can, but storage ain't cheap..

How and where please? I would like to look at it from top to bottom and do a cost benefit analysis.

You can check out OVH's dedicated storage servers, which you can grab 48TB for $489.00/mo. That's around $120/TB/year. Or if you wanna go biger, 216TB will be $1659.00/mo, or around $92/TB/year. Keep in mind you'll need to generate all the plots too, so you might want to vRack that with a powerful "Big-Data" server such as the HG (which could generate plots at a rate around 13900 nonces/min, as it has 2xE5-2650v2) or an Infrastructure server such as the EG-128 (which you can rent weekly for $100, and could generate around a rate of 7000 nonces/min) for a few weeks to generate all the plots, constantly moving them over the vRack connection.

Alternately, you could rent SYS servers such as their 24TB option for around $150 per month, or around $75/TB/year. Keep in mind that every TB of stated space is 0.9TB of space after formatting and creating the filesystem, so the 24TB server will give you 3.6TBx6=21.6TB after formatting and using "tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sdx." I also rent out burst mining power at a rate of 0.045BTC/TB for the first month (for an actual full Terabyte, or a Terabyte *after* formatting), and 0.0225BTC/TB each month afterwards. If you use SYS for the servers, you can still use OVH Enterprise Dedicated Boxes, and then download the plots over the internet. However, this connection will be limited to 500Mbps, and in actuality you're performance will waver between 300 and 400 if you are saturating multiple connections constantly.

Interestingly enough, Hetzner.de offers a 16TB dedicated server for 69 Eur including 19% VAT (so around $74/mo if you don't live in Germany, so you don't have to pay VAT). The processor in that box is capable of somewhere in the ballpark of 3600 nonces/minute more than likely, which would give you just over 1.18TB/day of plots. 16TB after formatting is 14.4TB-ish, so that would take the server around 14.4/1.18=12.2 days to create all the plots. Renting another dedicated server for plot generation seems impractical with Hetzner given the 200Mbps/connection, which may or may not also be the download speed.
397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient POC Mining | Update to 1.0.3 before block 6500 on: September 04, 2014, 10:45:40 PM
Would people be interested in a service where you can buy pre-plotted external hard drives with a one-click miner?

why not cloud mining, just rent couple TB, for any period of time

Already providing that (0.045BTC/TB for setup + one month, then 0.0225BTC/TB a month after), but some people would probably prefer to outright own the hardware if they're looking for long-term BURST mining.

cool, i have a nice idea to mix PoC with PoW
first we do read plot as PoC, then we are idle right?
then during that idle time, we are generating more plots on the fly using GPU, just like on GPU PoW mining
thats like adding extra GB over your plot without need any disk space at all
but i am not sure how much GB, GPU can generate per seconds

I believe someone did a preliminary test and got the equivalent of 35GB per 4-minute period, so effectively 35GB per block on a high-end GPU, which drew somewhere around 200+ W at the wall.
398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient POC Mining | Update to 1.0.3 before block 6500 on: September 04, 2014, 10:39:37 PM
Would people be interested in a service where you can buy pre-plotted external hard drives with a one-click miner?

why not cloud mining, just rent couple TB, for any period of time

Already providing that (0.045BTC/TB for setup + one month, then 0.0225BTC/TB a month after), but some people would probably prefer to outright own the hardware if they're looking for long-term BURST mining.
399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient POC Mining | Update to 1.0.3 before block 6500 on: September 04, 2014, 10:30:07 PM
Would people be interested in a service where you can buy pre-plotted external hard drives with a one-click miner?
400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient POC Mining | Update to 1.0.3 before block 6500 on: September 04, 2014, 10:13:30 PM
I will build a burst multipool.  I have already registered the domain name.  However, I am travelling for the day to BC (driving about 10 hours) but from the hotel tonight I will get at least a beta version of it up and running.

I need a couple things from the community though.
a) I'd like a commitment to give me at least 72 hours to get the pool up and running.  Like I said, I am travelling with work and I don't want to have to be in some stupid competition to get a half-done pool operational before some other lame pool operator.  I have a proven track record of producing working pools for other coins.  We can set my deadline as being saturday evening PST.

b) I need logos and images and stuff related to burst, as well as an official color scheme (if one exists) - if there are any graphics designers who have done any work with this coin, please pm me with what you have.


You got it.

Everyone please send me the funds for this multipool!

Unfortunately, I lost all of my personal coins =(

But I will still take care of this for the community.

Anyone want to sell me 1.5 million at 480? Send me a PM!

Sent my promised 25k to your address in sig from BURST-AAAA-AAWN-27RC-64PAA. Smiley
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