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1  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io - Anniversary promo - All players credited up to $500 in free bets! on: June 17, 2021, 03:26:05 PM
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2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][BKB] BetKing Bankroll Token - Tokens distributed to your account on: June 17, 2021, 03:25:41 PM
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3  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io - ICO - $4.7 million raised, last week to take part! on: June 17, 2021, 03:24:40 PM
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4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKing.io ICO - Bitcoin Gambling website - 581.4 BTC raised so far on: June 17, 2021, 03:24:15 PM
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5  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 13, 2020, 10:18:28 AM
I emailed you and never saw any of my initial investment of 1.5BTC/62626.94092BKB returned. How can you claim to have returned a lot of the originally invested funds?

I asked you to email me many times before with your username and you wouldn't do it as you were scared I would ban you for some weird reason. Look where that's got you now.
How am I meant to resolve anything with you if you won't work with me?

Email me. This forum isn't where I resolve these things. Since it's full of trolls and idiots and you are not willing to show me proof you are even an investor.



And how can I "claim"? There's proof on the forum. Work with me instead of fighting against it and you will have a much easier time.

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Email me. This forum isn't where I resolve these things.

I think this is quite the opposite. Isn't it ideal for you or your company to solve this on the forum? Then you show your willingness to solve things and you don't hide your own behind proven situations.
This is therefore an excellent opportunity to clean up your house and resolve unsolved cases for victims.



Actually unfortunately no it is not the place.

These claims started by JollyGood in 2018, before we had a hack, before we had ran out of ICO funds.
Since then I have posted in this very forum 100's of times defending and answering all questions and accusations and all that happened was him and his crew and the trolls just started twisting my words, burying my posts, ignoring anything I write, accuse anyone who said anything about getting a refund of being a sock puppet of mine or even an alt.

It's literally impossible to defend against because this shit hole forum allows for this even though it's clearly illegal what has happened to me here now. I'll deal with that in future.

What you have to ask yourself is where are all the hundreds of people I allegedly scammed for apparently millions of $?
Why are these people not posting? Where is the proof from actual investors that I stole funds? There are none. (one guy who got free tokens doesn't count and yes there might be the odd person who wasn't up to date on what was going on, but surely you would expect many people posting about huge losses like that no?

The fact is that almost all investors DO receive emails or chat with me on Telegram and know the plans for trying to refund. There's no need to post anything in this forum since the investors are not here.


 
6  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan on: November 13, 2020, 10:10:22 AM
Dean deleted this from his thread, but not quickly enough:


https://archive.is/NNOLZ  <== might be easier to read the email here

It wasn't meant to be "quick eough" retard.
It just didn't belong there.
I am emailing him.

Btw, post my reply to that email from the same thread Wink

Fucking idiots the lot of you

I archived the page here: https://archive.is/NNOLZ

So what you mean is again, you just ignore my replies?

Lets face it, even if I got enough BTC to refund everyone, signed a message with proof of ownership, paid all investors and they all showed proof that they received it (this is impossible but lets imagine).
You lot still would keep posting I'm a scammer. It doesn't matter what I do, even when all investors are made whole (which they will) you will still say me/bk is a scam and probably ignore all evidence and say the proof was from sock puppets or me multi accounting or some bs as you always do.

That's why I gave up after 2 years of answering all the questions people had because me words get twisted, my posts get ignored or deleted or buried. Then all you lot just post lies and nonsense.

You do all realise you are the ones who have hurt investors right? The site would have still been open and makig a return for investors if it wasn't for all you lot.

Now I need to start from negative and try to rebuild the site to refund them. Good job. Pretty stupid of you if you really claim to "care"

7  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan on: November 13, 2020, 09:58:25 AM
Dean deleted this from his thread, but not quickly enough:


https://archive.is/NNOLZ  <== might be easier to read the email here

It wasn't meant to be "quick eough" retard.
It just didn't belong there.
I am emailing him.

Btw, post my reply to that email from the same thread Wink

Fucking idiots the lot of you
8  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 13, 2020, 09:16:37 AM
I emailed you and never saw any of my initial investment of 1.5BTC/62626.94092BKB returned. How can you claim to have returned a lot of the originally invested funds?

I asked you to email me many times before with your username and you wouldn't do it as you were scared I would ban you for some weird reason. Look where that's got you now.
How am I meant to resolve anything with you if you won't work with me?

Email me. This forum isn't where I resolve these things. Since it's full of trolls and idiots and you are not willing to show me proof you are even an investor.



And how can I "claim"? There's proof on the forum. Work with me instead of fighting against it and you will have a much easier time.
9  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan on: November 10, 2020, 08:06:58 PM
Serial scammer Dean Nolan is deleting post after post including those that not even exposing his lies and are just asking questions about the past scams he committed using betking or how he intends to return investor funds from the bakroll theft that he carried out and the ICO funds theft that he carried out resulting in $millions being pocked by serial scammer Dean Nolan
 






I'm deleting posts of false accusations.

You are deleting posts of me answering peoples questions in your own "uncensored" thread  Grin
10  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 10, 2020, 07:23:22 PM
I won't make any money until that is done.

I don't think that is anything an actual scammer would be doing.
Would you accept a third party escrow to hold your bankroll? Otherwise, what is the guarantee that you wont run away with the fund again?

I was going to delete that with your stupid false accusation.

However you do have a good point.

I have spoke to investors about a 3rd party holding funds, or themselves or a multi sig setup with multiple investors holding the keys.

All 9 investors asked at the time voted for me to hold the funds.

However, I have been thinking of allowing investors to hold funds themselves potentially.

It would mean any proof of funds page for the bankroll would have to list multiple addresses and each investor would need to sign a message proving the funds were being used on BetKing.

The problem though is I now need to trust the investor to send funds when a player wins. They could basically freeroll me and other investors.

It also means needing to ask multiple people to send their % share of that players winnings which could be a lot of hassle if it was to get funds off > 10 people to pay one person.

I could do it where they have to deposit 10-20% of their investment to reduce the back and forth but it still has problems.

11  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 10, 2020, 06:51:35 PM
How will you compensate those old investors that still stock and forcefully holding your BKB tokens until now? Will you give them bonus just like an airdrop or some bonus to cover there investment loss since most of us are feeling left behind after the hack and your announcement of bankruptcy.

This is my honest question and I'm still hoping to receive your honest reply.

The way old investors will be compensated is as follows.

There will be a public bankroll that anyone can invest new money in to, btc, eth, ltc etc.
We already have some small investors who will invest this way.

The new bankroll investors will be charged commission on any profit, e.g. 25%.

So if players lost 10 BTC (over some period) that means investors would have a profit of 10 BTC.

The house would then charge 2.5 btc (25%) commission on this.

This 2.5 btc will be used to refund old investor losses.

Then each time there is more profit and more commission that commission will also be used for refunds.


Now there is a priority system here.

We will first be using the commission to refund the investors who lost funds they invested in the bankroll when we were hacked. (most of these people also had BKB)

The commission will be split proportionately, so if you had 10% of the lost bankroll funds you would get 10% of the commission.

Once the bankroll funds have been refunded fully we will do the same process but now for BKB token holders where the commission will essentially buy back old BKB.

The price will be $0.09128 per BKB. Meaning all token holders would be in profit after having all their tokens bought back.

Again this will be split proportionately between accounts with BKB on site. (either deposited from own wallet or imported from old account).

This will obviously take some time for everyone to be refunded in full, we're talking over $2mm in total.

We need to attract old players and new ones (mainly not on this forum considering the false claims of scams we have here).

There's a way for old investors or token holders to be paid back faster though.

If you had a bankroll loss or hold tokens and choose to invest in the new bankroll (new funds deposited) then commission you would be charged will go 100% to refunding you.

So for example. If 2 investors were to be charged 0.1 btc commission but one of them had > 0.1 btc worth of tokens or old losses, they would get to keep the 0.1 btc and the other 0.1 would be used to refund everyone else who can't invest in the bankroll.

I think this is the fairest way and gives incentive for investors to invest even a small amount if they can. But it is not required at all.


Hope that clears things up. That's a long post and so if still any confusion let me know



12  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 09, 2020, 11:21:56 PM
There's red warning on top of your thread stating that there's strongly beloved that you are a scammer.
I was wondering how are you going to win back the trust of the forum and your investors? It's good thing that you will give 100% of the profit to pay the previous investors.
But it looks like no one is interested on investing to your casino and for reference when are you planning to relaunch the Betking.io?

All the red flags were left by people who did not invest, who did not lose funds and who didn't even play on the old site.

I am not looking to gain back the trust of these people and this forum won't be where we focus on getting players.


EDIT: If you are incapable of reading the original post and then post nonsense claims of scam with no evidence or just waffle on to boost your signature campaign posts you will be deleted. There's already a hate thread (which cencors me funnily enough) that you can post your incoherent ramblings in.
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan on: November 09, 2020, 09:28:39 AM
I wasn't kicked out the CGF, I took if off the site because people in that group took your lies as truth and I thought fuck that.

Really?  It wasn't because you had to shut down the site after your bankroll (other peoples money) magically vanished?

No. I left well before the hack. (maybe even 10 months before)

See this is the problem with you idiots. You just hear what you want to hear, believe what you want to believe and then make the rest up with no concept of timing or facts. Bonus points for ignoring my responses or twisting my words.


How come it's all the same sad, pathetic losers that repeat the same shit and claims?

Where are the hundreds/thousands of people I stole the millions of $ from allegedly? Why are the not here posting?
Don't pull out loyce, that's just stupid. The guy got a few tokens in a bounty task (risked no money) and sold them at a loss when he didn't need to. He doesn't count (his tokens were worth ~ $600 max and he received more than he should have for the task anyway).

Where are all the people that lost real money that matters?

The only people who post shit or leave negative trust are people who never invested and never lost any money. Go through them. Read all my negative trust. 0 investors.

While at the same time, the people who did lose money, I am in regular contact with, have been refunding them money when I can and kept them up to date monthly with the situation and plans.

These are the same investors who are investing again in the new site when we open.

You know for a fact we will get players, it doesn't matter what all you trolls post or the colour of text next to my name on this forum Smiley
14  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan on: November 08, 2020, 10:24:21 PM
Dean's name/reputation is in tatters due to his child-like reactions to criticism and dodging important questions regarding where ICO funds went and providing *proof* that bankroll funds were actually hacked/stolen - something I still find extremely hard to believe.

It's worth mention that prior to him being hacked, things were on a massive downward spiral He made bizarre lies, like he had pirated bustabit's game (he didn't even try to hide it, so even the comments were character for character identical) and wouldn't pay the license fee (which was only 2 btc, iirc). He then had the audacity to blame me, even though I was supposedly his friend. All because I told him "well if no one notices, you can get away with it" (or something close to it). He then took it down for a couple days, and put it back and claimed he had just rewrote the whole thing (even though it was blindly obvious all he did was run it through a js minifier). After that he was kicked out of the Crypto-Gambling-Foundation.  And mean while he had locked the value of his ICO tokens to the price of bitcoin, and the *second* it moved against him, he just totally reneged. He was happy to make hundreds of thousands when it moved in his favor, but not take a dollar of loss the other way. And then as you note, he literally had zero volume after word spread .... and then opened up "bankroll investing" (even though raising money for the bankroll was part of the ICO plan) and then *poof* it got "hacked" lmao.

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Dean's only chance would be to transfer control of Betking to someone reputable and skilled, and work on the backend. He'll never run a successful dice site on his own again.
Hm? Betking name literally is of negative value. I can't imagine why any sane person would ever get involved with Dean, or play at a site he was involved in.

Absolutely amazing Smiley
Every single part of your post is a lie. How do you manage it? lol

I wasn't kicked out the CGF, I took if off the site because people in that group took your lies as truth and I thought fuck that. Everyone knows I even have affiliate partnership with them for the past 6 months so you are just plain wrong again.

JS minifier, same comments? I have the full source still of the rewrite I could release and show that it is different, but I might decide to use it again so I won't.

I didn't pay for the licence because I wasn't told I had to, you know this.

The tokens were never locked to the price of btc pmsl, the price was always in $ and when btc dropped to 3k the bkb price did not drop. Any investor could show you this. Even simple forum search could prove you wrong here.

Anyway, you can all say what you want. The point of my post was merely documentation to show that the site is going to open and will refund investor losses. I don't need players or investors from here. I will get players to the site regardless of what you all post and you know that.

 
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 08, 2020, 12:53:49 PM
I know this is a "what if"  question but what happens if the website got hacked again similar to what happened in 2019? how will you pay the new investors then? and what precautions are you going to take in order a hack never happened again on your website? I know questions are pretty generic but it is important. no offence but to be honest I would advise people to avoid your website with all of this uncertainty.

Very good question.

BetKing pre ICO was coded by myself.

After the ICO we hired a number of developers. When developing an update (for eos token support) a bug was introduced by one of the other developers that allowed people to gain access to their server seed and predict the bet results.

This was fixed, and the fix was shown to investors at the time, though it was too late by then.

This new version is again coded by myself only and there won't be any issue with this. No code from any other person will be on the site at all.

The investors who are funding this already know all this and that is why they are even investing at all.

There will obviously be more monitoring (automated and manual) and frequent auditing to make sure there are no other issues but that specific bug that caused the hack before will not be possible.
16  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 08, 2020, 12:05:03 PM
As stated in the original post, 100% of site profit will be used for refunds. I won't make s single sat until all investors are refunded in full

So what will be earned by your investors (those who invest in your public bankroll once you relaunch it) if all profit will be used for refunds? So in other words you are trying to get new investors with no chances to earn from what they invest till all past investors are refunded? Long term purpose is indeed good for the house but still there is no guarantee that you will make good profit to refund old investors especially due to your current reputation that will make gamblers worries to spend their money on your site. It makes your chance to get profit is low compared to other normal site with neutral reputation.

OK so it seems there's some confusion there.

The way the site works, as any public investment site, is player losses go to the bankroll investors THEN the site takes a commission as the site profit.
This commission is what will be used to refund old investor losses.

So new investors won't be screwed here. The site works as normal for them.
But instead of me taking the commission I will be refunding old losses with it.
So you should read then as "All My Profit"

Also keep in mind I am not even trying to get new investors. I have investors. This is just an option so that IF we do get new investment then we can cater to highrollers.


17  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan on: November 08, 2020, 10:22:33 AM
The serial scammer Dean Nolan is using his self-moderated thread to suppress views he disagrees with because they list the scams that he carried out using his betking website.

He has already deleted 4 posts from 4 users that had 5 merits:



WARNING: Investors and game players need to stay well away from serial scammer Dean Nolan otherwise they will end up having their crypto stolen



Haha I also do not think that. That would not be a smart choice if it. But it seems he is back with a new site again. Thanks for warning, Jollygood.

I can see you missed me Smiley

omg i cant believe this. this guy is totally heartless. after scamming people of millions of dollars, he is coming back to scam more. the annoying thing is that more idiots will fall for it

He has claimed recently that he will refund the loses of the people. I don't believe his single word because if he was right he would not have started a self - moderated thread. He is back in business to scam more money from people.  Sad

As I have always said that I would refund the losses, I have decided that 100% of the commission the new BetKing site makes will be used to first refund the old bankroll losses and then the ICO losses.

I won't make any money until that is done.

I don't think that is anything an actual scammer would be doing.


Actually it's just to delete posts form these clowns, there's still lots of warnings left from other users. Just not jollygood, loyce, richgang etc since they are just liars
18  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 08, 2020, 09:42:50 AM
It would have been better if you fully refunded all those who lost money before starting over again or those who aren't willing investors. Some gambling platforms like Betnomi managed to reversed the negative feedback about them and actually attracted a lot of players (from what I see) but your issue is way worse than them. Best of luck.

That is great of Betnomi but we are just not in the situation where that is possible right now. If I had Bitcoin to refund everyone I would.

I have managed to pay back around $100,000 in the past 6 months hence why the investors are willing to invest again.

But since I can't just refund all myself right now I think taking the approach as some other sites, like ethercrash recently did when they were hacked last week, is by paying back with commission is the best we can do right now.


For now you don't have the money to refund everyone who have lost their money. But what if you made a successful comeback, earn a good profits, what is your plan then? are you still going to pay back those who have lost?

Good luck though, we all know that gamblers here and investors doesn't forgot about how such a big ICO's back then lose everything including investors money, so the question of 'trust' is always there.

Thanks

As stated in the original post, 100% of site profit will be used for refunds. I won't make s single sat until all investors are refunded in full
19  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 07, 2020, 06:28:59 PM
It would have been better if you fully refunded all those who lost money before starting over again or those who aren't willing investors. Some gambling platforms like Betnomi managed to reversed the negative feedback about them and actually attracted a lot of players (from what I see) but your issue is way worse than them. Best of luck.

That is great of Betnomi but we are just not in the situation where that is possible right now. If I had Bitcoin to refund everyone I would.

I have managed to pay back around $100,000 in the past 6 months hence why the investors are willing to invest again.

But since I can't just refund all myself right now I think taking the approach as some other sites, like ethercrash recently did when they were hacked last week, is by paying back with commission is the best we can do right now.

20  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Relaunch on: November 07, 2020, 04:35:46 PM
Is there any assurance that there's a lot of player that will be playing on your website? Also you have previous accusations and problems with investors do you think the new investors would also think that this may happen to them also and in result they will not be going to invest to the bankroll.

Good points

First off, we are not needing or looking for new investors. It's just an option for people who want to use it. I already mentioned we will have a small group of investors who will put up a large enough bankroll to cover bets and pay winnings for almost all players, we just won't have limits attractive to highrollers.

It's also worth mentioning that the people who are investing, some are also people who lost in the old bankroll hack. So that should show you how they feel about the whole situation, how they have felt about the amounts I have refunded so far and how I am trying to handle it.

As said, all actual investors who were effected by the hack, I am in contact with and none of them are the people who have left red trust or posted accusations in the forum.

As for players. Well yes that will be difficult to gain everyone's trust too. However even just today old BetKing players have emailed me asking if I plan to re-open. I get emails like that now and again. So there are old players who look like they will return.
Remember too that very few people lost money, no players. There are less than 20 people left to refund from the bankroll hack.

So in summary, we are not looking to attract new investment, it's there just as an option in case people do want to and that can then allow bigger bets.
We also think enough old players will return to make it worth our time and also provide enough volume that sees investors refunded.
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