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621  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [600 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/PPS/DGM/Merged Mining/PayPal Payout/SMS/Yubikey/More on: July 23, 2012, 08:48:25 PM
Sorry to hear what occured Inaba, according to the logs (both mine and yours), I wasn't even mining at the time, my CM1's were not operational for a few days. So I doubt I got anything extra (mines all on auto payout) however I have upped my donation % anyway.

Btw that guy who knows he's got the gains of a bug, knows it was and just basically tells you to suck it up; he is permamently on my **** list. Won't deal with anyone like that.

btw your pool usually averages over 1000Gh/s, so you probably could update thread title.
622  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 23, 2012, 08:35:35 PM
I've been following this thread very closely as i'm interested in making a bulk order.

So far, it doesnt make any business sense now. If you think this as an investment, then its terrible. How many ppl have got these board worked at intended speed? and if you did, for how long? I'm not a technical person but spending a month of tinkering is not acceptable. Maybe we should now know why BFL had a long waiting for their production.

As a potential customer, may i know exactly why you sell the boards without a working bitstream?

I know it won't be easy to convience you otherwise of your view. How ever I will do my best to try.

Quick turn around, they are using the same chips and a similar design than what is already been done. However the made it a bit bigger, using 4 chips. Enterpoint are veterans in the market of making FPGA's, but relatively new to bitcoins, it was their first board. They made it from scratch quicker than any other manufactor, so I got to give them credit there. They had lots of people interested in seeing this as a development board, even if it meant us making the bitstream, so they went ahead with it.

A fully working bitstream was not the problem it should of been, it was a oops in the complication of combining 4 of these chips. It was a calculated risk and hasn't turned out that bad. If I had made orders with another manufacter, I know it would of cost me more, also I'd paid in advance for most of them (not all) and many of them I'd still be waiting for my product in hand. To me, I've come out better off for it. I don't like waiting 3+ months for an item, I certainly don't like waiting that long for an item I already bought. Enterpoint delivered what I expected.

Enterpoint (Yohan) and his team with the CM1, it allowed us to be mining on a development board, which we knew about in advance when we order at a lower than normal price. We saved money buying hardware and only paid when it was ready to ship.

As a programmer/developer this does not bother me, sure there are a few frustrating moments, that is part of being a programmer, you get little irratiable when debugging a problem. Many in this thread are also very technical people, that is the target whom jumped in early before a bitstream was fully ready. The FPGA market is filled with people just like me, so it does make business sense, it did work, he sold quiet a lot of them.

Average Joe, sure this might not be ideal for you, unless you prepared to start learning all what it takes to get a FPGA to work. It's not plug and play, anything more advance than a GUIminer is not, so it should come to no suprise that these won't be.
623  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bounty: a bitstream for better utilizing the Cairnsmore1 on: July 23, 2012, 02:31:26 PM
My 5 btc to this cause, is simple. I'd want the CM1 to be working to it's fullest potential quick as possible. While also ensuring if I'm paying this bounty, I'm keeping this an open source project. It would be more, but that is all I have in btc right now.

Aslong as a bitstream exist that is open source, uses all 4 cores and does within ~90% of what many of us expected the CM1 to do (800Mh/s) without any outside infulences. It doesn't bother me, if enterpoint makes use of, or even pays in this case Glasswalker.

I am part of the community that cares about results, the means of those results I am not too fussed by. It allows the community at large to make use of the bitstream, aswell as see the bitstream be improved in an open source way that has work so well with other projects so far.

Glasswalker will probably win the bounty, but whom ever it is, is soon to get a long of bitcoins, as their is a lot of interest in seeing these full operational that is for sure.

624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 22, 2012, 10:57:54 PM
I went from a Win7 (64) Llano APU laptop, that had a usb port for each CM1 I have.
- It was unstable and would be lucky to last 1-2 hours before com ports disappeared and it stopped mining.

I changed over to a Ubuntu 12.04 Open case Intel Atom, that had to use a 4 port hub (no seperate power) to operate them, due to low number of unused usb ports.
- It has been stable for 24 hours+ first attempt. It's still mining and has been no hassle since.

So the things that changed;
- I changed the OS (Win -> Linux), this obviously effected the system it worked it alot, aswell the drivers.
- I went from a Laptop to a more traditional PC board. It is a lot less powerful of a system, but for the first 12 hours was dedicated to just mining. Later it proved it didn't need to be dedicated, since it still worked fine multiple times to play films, music etc fine while also mining.
- Direct Usb cable to usb port to having a usb hub (this should of been a negative), but appears to had no effect. However their is only 2, maybe the effect would of been worse had I had more on this hub and it not having it's own power source.

For me, It worked moving to linux. For others it works to change their usb cables etc, that was all they needed to do.
Cgminer team has actually made a guide or two on this, if your unsure what or how to do it, check the software subforum.
625  Other / Off-topic / Re: my story, Thoughts on BFL on: July 22, 2012, 09:43:55 AM
Using all this hardware and software to mine bitcoins, is not easy or simple once you start moving away from GPU's and guiminer.
Sure It could be easier, but It also slows down progress as things change and need improving.
The key to remember, it's not impossible, others are doing it, so nothing is stopping you from doing it.
I do mean nothing, if you think their is something, it's you. You choose not to.

It is very rewarding, when you do these more difficult tasks and I don't mean in any finiancial way.
I find it great to look at it and just go, I did that. It works and it was damn hard to get working.

People are willing to help if you are polite and ask specific questions.
Their are also a fair amount of instructions and step-by-step guides for most of it out their.
It does sound very technical, but don't be afraid to ask questions. Google is a great asset also.

However their are many ways to make your mark in bitcoin, as has already been mentioned.
Keep learning it is possible for anyway, given enough time and patience to learn;
how to use Linux, how to compile a program and to command line start a program with specific prompts.
626  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 22, 2012, 07:52:06 AM
It was stable all night, lasted a good 8 hours. Something that is a good 4x longer than was ever acheived in windows.
I think it was Ubuntu that made the difference, I will do my best to answer any queries in this.
627  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 21, 2012, 11:06:17 PM
Good problem, I saw it over in the bounty thread first.

I've finally got my little Ubuntu atom computer running these now.
We'll see if windows was the cause of the stability issues or not.
It's only been 10-15 minutes so tomorrow morning will tell me weither it worked or not.
However it's was always going to end up here, so it's good to get it setup eventually.

Take ages to get it sorted, I only use this as my HTPC (via XBMC), so it only has a wireless mouse.
On-screen keyboards suck when you actually got a lot of typing to do.

Thanks to spiccioli, your earlier posts proved quiet useful in getting it working under linux.
628  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bounty: a bitstream for better utilizing the Cairnsmore1 on: July 21, 2012, 08:43:16 PM
Glad we got people like Glasswalker working on this.

Thank you!
629  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bounty: a bitstream for better utilizing the Cairnsmore1 on: July 20, 2012, 10:30:40 PM
I think you need to include a specific expiry date after Enterpoint releases a functioning bitstream.  I'm not too interested in paying out a bounty some months after a faster solution is released.

Or, possibly a complete open source publication of the solution including all the necessary files to build it from scratch and clear documentation of how to do so.  That I would be willing to fund at some value X before Enterpoint gets a solution, and perhaps X/2 after the solution is released.

This is a good idea, and I will post a substantial addition to the bounty once the terms are defined.

I agree with most of that.
Open source would have to be part of the deal, I'd gladly put some bitcoins towards that.
Don't care who makes it, could even be enterpoint themselves, might encourage them to speed up the process.
630  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I made 100BTC with Satoshi's dice. Is this normal? on: July 20, 2012, 10:26:48 PM
It's best to stop when you are ahead. The house always wins.

If you do win, you've beaten the odds, so get out before it gets a chance to win it back.
631  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 20, 2012, 10:17:12 PM

Think that might be a keypoint to stability issues, I have noticed a lot with the worst problems with stability use windows.
Guess I really need to get my arse into gear and get cgminer working on linux.

Lethos,

I've had boards running without interruption for at least 12 days using Win7 32 bit.  I would take a serious look at your hardware, and possibly swap it out.

A power flicker once required me to shut down and remount the entire system, but that should be obvious if you have any digital clocks.

Also I had one case where the USB chain dropped on the boards over night, but exactly the same thing happened to my Ztex system running completely independently in a different room.  I suspect stray EM interference in that case.  Do you happen to live in the flight path of an airport?

I am not anywhere near an airport. I am however near a cell phone tower it's just 200-300 yards away.
I swear If I'm just moved house (last week) right next to a place that is making it impossible for my new hardware to work reliably I'll be pissed.
I haven't had the time to work on getting it working in linux yet, had a major development project sitting on me past few weeks.

Hey, I'd just be happy to get this working reliably, I'm far more familar with Windows than I am Linux (apart from Centos). I'm not that familar with Ubuntu and Debian which are far more prefered for personal computer Linux OS.
Most of my experience with Linux is with servers, running it for high load game servers, not using Linux as a personal computer, so It's a slightly different aspect of linux for me to learn.
632  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 20, 2012, 01:17:34 PM
Thanks, zefir.
Now it is much more clear.

One more question:

Quote
The Cairnsmore1 has been planned as a dual Icarus board, but for the known design mistake the second FPGA of each pair is deactivated for the original bitstream. Therefore running CM1 in Icarus mode gives you two times half the processing power - or just one Icarus equivalent.

The only CM1 operating modes I found are Test mode and Icarus.

Is there any workaround to make CM1 use the full power? Some 3rd party bitstream or not documented DIP switches position or else?
Or maybe the Controller 1.4 would fix that?

Thanks
From the info I collected so far, it seems that right now we are restricted to these two. User Glasswalker was the one trying to 'fix' the original Icarus bitstream to handle the swapped RX/TX lines, but he run into problems getting it stable and had to reduce the clock => that is the shipping_test.bit one. The twin_test.bit seems to be ngzhang's original one that does well with only one FPGA per pair enabled.

Many of us are trying to get EldenTyrell's TriCoreMining working on CM1, to my knowledge nobody was successful so far. You might want to watch the related thread.

Other than that I read somewhere that Glasswalker is still working on some CM1 bitstream, but is right now busy and stressed after he got hacked and robbed 12k+$.

I discussed once with Yohan and he told me that everyone who is able and willing to work on a bitstream can get all required information. Anyone Huh

I'm glad multiple people are trying to get a bitstream together. It's not easy and I am also one of them, how ever I'm still in the learning stages of figuring the hardware itself. Until I do, and know what I'm working with it makes it harder to software design for it.

I can certain see some potential ways to improve the bitstream, but I do have my concerns that if I can't get it to work stable like others can, I could be adding too many variables and won't know what to blame if I add another (my own bitstream). So If I move my running of the CM1's over to linux, If it solves my issues of stability, then I'll be happy to start building a bitstream.
Stability is key, It's no fun seeing it only up for 1-2 hours, I can't watch it like a hawk, else I'd get no work done.
633  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 20, 2012, 01:11:34 PM
Can you share how you managed to get it stable for that long, since many are not yet.
What settings and that do you use in CGminer?

Hi Lethos,

nothing fancy, I just start cgminer telling it what ttyUSB?? port (I'm on linux) to use, I'm not using the icarus-timing option.


spiccioli

Think that might be a keypoint to stability issues, I have noticed a lot with the worst problems with stability use windows.
Guess I really need to get my arse into gear and get cgminer working on linux.

Lethos,

I think there are problems with usb drivers on windows, Yohan found out that inserting a usb key sometimes makes one or more boards to disappear.

In my case, though, the stuck FPGA does not hash anymore, its A: value hasn't been changing for two days now, but there are no signs that the usb connections is gone, since the other FPGA on the same boards is still hashing nicely.

So either the controlling FPGA "lost" that single FPGA or bitstream inside that FPGA locked up for some reason.

Anyway, you can look here for a 32 bit cgminer 2.4.3 compiled for linux with just icarus support available (this is the one I'm using), you need to trust my build though.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78239.msg993287;topicseen#msg993287

spiccioli


I will actually give it a go. Thanks.
634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 20, 2012, 09:26:45 AM
Can you share how you managed to get it stable for that long, since many are not yet.
What settings and that do you use in CGminer?

Hi Lethos,

nothing fancy, I just start cgminer telling it what ttyUSB?? port (I'm on linux) to use, I'm not using the icarus-timing option.


spiccioli

Think that might be a keypoint to stability issues, I have noticed a lot with the worst problems with stability use windows.
Guess I really need to get my arse into gear and get cgminer working on linux.
635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 19, 2012, 12:57:40 PM
Can you share how you managed to get it stable for that long, since many are not yet.
What settings and that do you use in CGminer?
636  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 18, 2012, 07:01:22 PM
This propably isnt the correct place to ask this, but im almost certain that asking anywhere else would result in 2 pages of questions, trolling, etc about how I use cgminer. So here goes:

How do I add a backup pool to this .bat im running to start my boards:

Code:
 cgminer -o http://pool.com -u me -p pass --disable-gpu -S noauto -S \\.\COM22 -S \\.\COM23 -S \\.\COM26 -S \\.\COM27 -S \\.\COM30 -S \\.\COM31 -S \\.\COM34 -S \\.\COM35 


?

Personally I've always prefered to use the conf file for this stuff.
However page 1 (front page) of the CGminer thread, does give an example of how to do multiple pools.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.0

Multiple pool, dedicated miner:
Code:
cgminer -o http://pool1:port -u pool1username -p pool1password -o http://pool2:port -u pool2usernmae -p pool2password
637  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Class action Litigation vs. Bitcoinica Consultancy LTD & Intersango LTD on: July 18, 2012, 12:34:47 PM
Who owns Bitcoinica LP  Huh

Im confused since no one seems to be taking ownership of it.

Do you think any involved want to be left holding this hot potato?
No, of course not. Everyone is trying to run, if they they can, before that hot potato is thrown in their direction.

From what genjix said, I think he means the original team, own it right now, but they all quit or was fired...
638  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 17, 2012, 10:28:49 PM
Array FPGA pin constraints are now available for bitstream developers and customers on http://www.enterpoint.co.uk/cairnsmore/cairnsmore1_support_materials.html.

Thanks Yohan. This helps move my code forward quiet a bit.
639  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Motherboard advice on: July 17, 2012, 06:02:06 PM
An upgrade to the motherboard, usually helps to just replace the exact same socket and general spec. This avoids any unnecessary cost upgrading other parts. However after a bit of research in the US market, it's not very cost effective to buy these older motherboards. Most are used, or still very expensive for the spec you'd need to replace it with. Newer motherboards are more cost effective.

So buy new and replace the motherboard, cpu and ram, does look like it could be cheaper. I'm not overly familar with the best places to buy in the US, so I'll leave that to someone else.

640  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Motherboard advice on: July 17, 2012, 04:54:28 PM
Im new to bitcoins and have decided to throw a small amount of money into it just to play around with. I have plans on building a new computer soon and plan on turning my old one into a mine rig. Currently I have a DFI Lanparty CFX3200 with an Athlon 4800+ X2, HD4850 and 2GB ram. The motherboard has 2 PCIe 16x slots and 2 1x slots.  I get about 90mhs now with the 4850 and ordered 3 5850's from ebay to add to it. I also ordered a 1050watt PSU with 8 PCIe connectors.

Now, I have had an issue with this system before in that it sometimes will not turn on and I never could figure out why... After pulling out hard drives, cdroms, etc to install the video cards I ran into this issue again and it wont boot... What would be a cheap motherboard to replace this one with? I wanted to have a 1ghs system for $600 or so...

Would it be better to find a socket 939 board to use the existing cpu/ram or buy something lower powered?

So you need a motherboard which uses a 939 socket, not a AM2 socket? I get confused by all the similar named processors, that use different sockets. If it's an 939, they came out 7 years ago, might be a little tricky to still get them, since it was quickly replaced by AM2 socket.

When looking around at a place I use that stores literally anything here in the England (and does much of europe), there is a real shortage of good stuff using the 939 socket. There is one or two, however the best one still only has the one PCI-E x16 and one PCI-E x1 slot, so not an ideal candidate.

Also what country do you live in and budget would you like to work with, so we can suggest reasonable websites to look at for you.
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