COINGEN.. HAHAHA Thanks for making my morning, what a flop.
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today aye?
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1KtJn967r3NdwgvHsnethXsesGmzBXjqhD if you like scams send BTC there and you will get absolutely 100% of nothing in return which is about all you Doge fans are looking at down the road. all the alts are a scam ... but then so is all of wallst  it is all religion ... got have faith |
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I might be interested, But wheres your collateral? Do you have anything to put up?
I would like to do paypal. If I recall correctly peer-to-peer is free? But if not then I rather not give ebay 8%+ to act as escrow. Other than that I willing to consider some lesser known alt-crypto. e.g. catcoin, goldcoin, earthcoin (penny coins) I rather avoid LTC. Why were you inactive for a long time?
I've been active but not posting. My general philosophy is best to be thought a fool, rather than make tons of comments that prove one is certainly a fool. I have been more active in reddit >> /user/bitcoinnational |
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Well, with your word alone you probably won't get a loan, esp since you are only taking the loan to increase the amount you can borrow in the future. That's a classic scam around here. I am not suggesting word alone loan ... but I am indeed making a public pledge ... so that I will be openly credit worthy.
You just need to put up collateral that can easily be sold for the loan amount should you default.
Collateral that can put up? define that pls. (I know what the word is, just not sure what eCollateral might be) |
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So you want to borrow just a bit now, slowly increasing the amount people lend to you?
If I am able, meaning I have earned the right by credibility. Then I am considering going to 1 BTC sized promissary notes. Right now I want to prove I am credit worthy. I am seeking to establish that I am accountable on a public ledger. |
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just kidding
But I would like to be able to borrow
0.100 BTC for 24hr (pay 0.102 BTC)
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0.010 BTC for 24hr (pay 0.0102 BTC)
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0.001 BTC for 24hr (pay 0.00102 BTC)
My word is my bond. I have been here since 2012.
I want to establish and prove my trustworthyness.
Seeking seasoned lenders. Looking for longterm partnership.
Please advise on collateral or other need qualifications.
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Grand Unified Monetary Theory? That would be the essence of money:
Money is information. That's all it is. Who owes what to whom.
ARISTOT-cratic MONEY - Durability - metal or info store Value over time, data integretity over time
- Portability - REGISTRY transport, ONLINE transfer
- Divisibility - fractional base unit
- Protection against market failure - there is nosuch thing, trust/faith/belief that market is True & Fair & Transparent
- Intrinsic Value - there is nosuch thing, value is set at market spot discovery
- Protection against loss- cross investments/hedge
- Protection against theft - crypto encoded
- Ease of exchange (liquidity) - market goods /money changers /security options
The 21 million Bitcoins can currently be divided into 2.1 quadrillion Satoshis, and theoretically near-infinitely. 1==$11 2==$1.10 - 2,1xx,,xxx,xxx centBitcoins
3==$0.11 - 21,xxx,xxx,xxx microBitcoins
4==$0.01 ... 3 microBitcoins per EARTHLING 5==$0.001 ... 30 microBitcoins per EARTHLING 6==$0.0001 ... 300 microBitcoins per EARTHLING - 21,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx 100,000mB/BTC
7==$0.000.01 ... 3000 microBitcoins per EARTHLING - 21x,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx million/BTC
8==$0.000.001 ... 30000 microBitcoins per EARTHLING - 2,1xx,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx 10million/BTC
9==$0.000.000.1 ... 300,000 Satoshis?? per EARTHLING ... translation ... 3000.00 mean balance // 100.00 per day $FLOW Protection against counterfeit - As a 128-bit ECDSA key pair, a Bitcoin key is nearly impossible to counterfeit; and this protection can be extended if this ever changes.
Protection against accounting failure - The Bitcoin network is the largest supercomputer in existence, and would require either 51% control of this network, or extensive, coordinated internet failure to break.
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Tibanne Co. Ltd. (Japan) Cerulean Tower 15F, Sakuragaoka-cho 26-1, Shibuya-ku, Tokyo REP. Mr. Mark Karpeles, CEO CAP. ¥500k = $70k Company OverviewJan-August 2012 // Y2012 2/3 The Market (USD) - share 87/100thsMt.Gox 87.8421%BTC-E 4.1547% BitStamp 2.2082% BitFloor 2.0856% CampBx 1.7230% CryptoXchange 0.8080% BTCex 0.6248% Intersango 0.4885% BTC Tree 0.0208% Vircurex 0.0142% BitMarket 0.0113% Bitcoin-24 0.0080% Bitme 0.0058% ICBIT 0.0051% Bitcoincharts.com - Data collected on August 5th 2012 -- Registered Users 192,270Past 30 Days* 15,391 8%Past week* 3,418 1.7% Past 24 hrs* 373 0.2% -- -- Server Data :: main, aux, plus Data Servers located in Europe (1x) and Japan (1x)Main Server - 64-Core (4 x 8 Core CPU + Hyper-threading) - 96 GB of RAM - 600 GB SAS Raid 1 - Networking : 2Gbps (two separate gigabit uplinks bonded) Main Server Backup - 64-Core (4 x 8 Core CPU + Hyper-threading) - 96 GB of RAM - 600 GB SAS Raid 1 - Networking : 2Gbps (two separate gigabit uplinks bonded) Data Backup - Dedicated Backup Servers located in Europe (1x) and Japan (1x) - From 10 to 12TB worth of Back-up Space per server mounted in Raid 1 or Raid 5 - 4096Bit encryption (PGP) Monthly Cost ~ $5,000.00 USD -- Deposit Volume - Last 30 DaysUSD $3,100,000 EUR €590,000 GBP £329,000 AUD $100,000 PLN zł389,000 -- Withdrawal Volume - Last 30 DaysUSD $2,600,000 EUR €430,000 GBP £65,000 AUD $30,000 PLN zł205,000 -- Withdrawal Volume - Last 7 Days~$500k per week ~ 50K BTC per week === Transferred Volume - Jan 2012 to Aug 2012USD $38,708,468 EUR €3,170,381 GBP £1,806,938 Data collected on August 30th 2012 including all Wire Deposits and Withdrawals.=== -- Trade Volume - Jan 2012 to Aug 2012USD $105,638,305 EUR €3,570,381 GBP £2,016,032 ~ $120,xxx,xxx -- estimated==Revenue==$1.200 Million ==Cost =====$0.160 Million ($5k servers + $15k office/employees) x 8 months ==Profit =====$1.040 Million claimedRevenue & Operational Costs USD Revenue Jan 12 to Aug 12 $380,450 Revenue & Operational Costs BTC Revenue Jan 12 to Aug 12 58,400BTC ($700k) Monthly Operational Costs ~ ¥3,500,000 ($44k) ==Profit =====$0.740 Million SOURCE :: https://mtgox.com/img/pdf/20120831/Transparency_august.pdfSOURCE :: http://www.tokyo-cci.or.jp/english/ibo/2353440.htm |
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mtgox makes 1% of the monthly volume, the volume at least 1M BTC per month, at least 10k BTC per month /COSTS/ 2 employees + server
satoshidice makes about 2k-3k BTC per month
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http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-stockexchange-shareholders-on-welfare/Intro Duct- The GLBSE was first launched by its founder James McCarthy in May 2011.
- The GLBSE was closed by James McCarthy in October 2012.
- Nefario is public figure "founder" thus subject to legal action
- therefore
- all is his unless AML, ID documents, are submitted in order to claim re.im·burse.ment
Ownershipsh1 = anon - Amir Taaki aka genjix sh2 = anon - Dave Hollis aka noagendamarket on irc, bitcoin.me on forum. sh3 = anon - ?? Matthew Holt aka matth3w ?? sh4 = anon - ?? Pidgeons ?? sh5 = anon - (proxy via theymos) = Andrew Reistad aka bitdragon. sh6 = theymos :: TREASURER sh7 = Nefario :: CEO sh8 = chrisrico sh9 = da2ce796 sh10 = ColdHardMetal :: CHAIRMAN Bonded Capitalization :: Risk?? 250 BTC/share X 10 shares = 2500 BTC ?? Liablesv.2 GLBSE 2.0 PPT, Goat debacles *100,000 BTC/m* Nefario Shutdown v1 Ubitex by Nathaniel Theis "IPO gathered over 1100 BTC (worth an average of about $10000 at the time)" Peter Lambert LIF Fund debacles ~30 scams taking in between a few hundred and a few thousand BTC each *MPOE-PR current - funds1400 BTC - treasury funds held by T 8000 BTC - operations funds held by N Motions1. Close operations thus freeze all GLBSE traded stocks thus invalidate fuduciary Trust & Prestige of the GLBSE parent (Bitcoin Global) 2. Nefario resign/remove as CEOJustificationNefario, “my problem actually is: 1) AML, 2) tax, 3) regulations, in that order.”As for legal threats, Nefario was also confident. “If they say in the UK ‘You can’t run this thing anymore’,” he claimed, “that’s OK. We’ll just move somewhere else. We’re not using a bank account for this and the funds are sitting on a USB key so it’s easy to exploit differences in jurisdictions. We might want to move somewhere like Singapore or Hong Kong, for example.” September 16 London Bitcoin conference--- sh1 = Amir Taaki aka genjix. Check out his wiki. sh2 = Dave Hollis aka noagendamarket on irc, bitcoin.me on forum. sh3 = Matthew Holt aka matth3w, of “I may sound like I’m doing poor/bad business…but for the second time I have managed to increase profits before production has even began” fame ... (bitcoin.me disagrees)sh4 = Pidgeons ... (bitcoin.me^Goat disagrees)sh5 = (proxy via theymos) = Andrew Reistad aka bitdragon. Nefario = former PR for intersango = James McCarthy theymos = http://www.reddit.com/user/theymos = Theymos (A GLBSE owner) has censored [Goat] (Goat's Signature) chrisrico da2ce796 ColdHardMetal Matthew Holt is not a shareholder that I know of. Neither is Pidgeons.
[16:55:20] nefario I don’t think there is any problem selling it onward [16:55:26] shareholder1 genjix is good aat leaking stuff lol [16:55:37] shareholder1  Also sh1 is an asset issuer from Australia [17:10:45] shareholder1 this is gonna ruin a lot of people because as an asset issuer I cant afford to shut down
[17:29:34] shareholder1 It kinda fucks me over because my asset relies on other assets to function
[18:09:33] shareholder1 Its the same with the Australian crime commission
[/quote] October 5th, 2012[16:21:32] ColdHardMetal "I’m calling this meeting to order at 9:22 PM GMT" [16:22:19] theymos present - 1400 BTC of treasury funds [16:22:21] nefario present - CEO [16:22:22] shareholder1 present [16:22:18] shareholder2 present [16:22:23] shareholder3 present [16:22:26] shareholder4 present [16:22:19] chrisrico present [16:22:33] da2ce796 present [16:22:40] ColdHardMetal present - [17:15:19] shareholder1 how is nefario going to run a legit bitcoin business when he has a fucking scammer tag
- [17:23:26] nefario closing down GLBSE, and ending it as an entity as it currently stands in a clean fashion, and then creating a legal entity removes pretty much all the risk for us
- [17:28:09] nefario theymos, you are a nasty piece of work
[17:28:29] nefario I won’t be giving the server, domain, db or anything to anyone else
[17:28:39] nefario I am shutting down GLBSE - [17:34:03] nefario 1) AML
[17:34:06] nefario 2) Tax
[17:34:09] nefario 3) Regulations
[17:34:11] nefario in that order
[17:34:21] ColdHardMetal I think a clean shutdown is our only real option. - [17:35:33] nefario for AML
[17:35:35] nefario so
[17:36:07] nefario we need gov. issued photo ID, a pic of the user with their GLBSE ID, and proof of address
[17:36:12] nefario gox style proof of address
[17:36:13] nefario so
[17:36:16] nefario utility bill
[17:36:25] nefario maybe a tax reciept - [17:38:13] shareholder4 he’s telling it;s something worse than FSA
[17:38:22] nefario I didn’t say that
[17:38:23] nefario but
[17:38:28] nefario I’m not denying it either - [17:41:20] shareholder2 good thing theymos has the treasury then
[17:41:35] nefario I don’t think it’s a good thing
[17:42:10] nefario the idea that I’ve given 15K USD worth of something to an anonymous person “to hold” looks really fucking bad for me - [17:47:15] ColdHardMetal how do you plan to finance this new company?
[17:47:23] shareholder1 ^^^^
[17:47:37] ColdHardMetal can’t go to the public.
[17:47:53] shareholder3_ crowdfunding?
[17:47:28] nefario good question
[17:47:58] nefario meeting with lawyer on wed to cover these details - [17:49:07] da2ce796 Lets neatly pack up GLBSE.
[17:49:24] nefario I put forward the motion that we bring GLBSE and bitcoin global to an end - [17:49:27] shareholder4 nefario: for the records, you arent going to hand over GLBSE even if a majority of shareholders is against shutting down right?
[17:49:27] shareholder3_ i truly think that if we reveal the plans to make it legit, this will turn around support in the community (at least the bright side of it) and new investments would flow if needed
[17:49:48] nefario shareholder3_: good idea
[17:49:50] nefario another good idea
[17:49:51] nefario we need
[17:49:55] nefario a real PR person
[17:49:58] nefario who is not me
[17:50:01] nefario with another account
[17:50:02] shareholder1 yes
[17:50:15] shareholder4 i hear MPOE-PR is good
[17:50:20] shareholder1 bahaha
[17:50:21] da2ce796 lol
[17:50:22] ColdHardMetal the finest
[17:50:50] shareholder2 MPOE-PR will be very happy to communicate that GLBSE is winding down
[17:51:14] shareholder3_ i know a few people in the community that could help on PR. i could ask once we have asolid plan to come back - [17:51:38] nefario ColdHardMetal: I didn’t get to talk to you about what the lawyer recommended on Goat
- [17:54:29] shareholder1 I sick of the fucking scams on glbse and if this makes it better Im all for it
[17:54:41] shareholder3_ ^^^ - [17:56:20] da2ce796 as in, mpex will stop being our compittion.
[17:56:26] shareholder1 mpex will be classified as money launderers and terrorists
[17:56:26] shareholder2 really? satoshidice and bitvps look pretty legit to me
[17:56:30] shareholder2 bitvps even hosts GLBSE
[17:57:39] nefario shareholder2: bitvps hosts GLBSE images - [18:09:10] nefario chrisrico: not everyone here is anonymous
[18:09:43] chrisrico nefario: did you choose to become non-anonymous? or did we or the rest of the community force you?
[18:09:59] chrisrico maybe you could own up to your own fucking decisions?
[18:10:00] shareholder2 actually, he probably betrayed us regardless \85
[18:10:04] shareholder1 they can drag you off the street and question you in secret and you cant tell anyone
[18:10:16] nefario me giving up my identity to the community was the cost to make GLBSE the success it has become
[18:10:41] shareholder3_ which ^^^i think derserves some credit
[18:10:47] shareholder3_ nefario is holding his ass in the air for us
[18:10:51] chrisrico which he has then destroyed over the course of two weeks
[18:11:11] chrisrico he did so of his own volition, now he wants to fuck us over so that he is protected
[18:11:18] shareholder2 GLBSE success? lol
[18:12:39] nefario I also worked my ass off
[18:12:41] chrisrico Bitcoin is a pretty big success right now and Satoshi never revealed his identity
[18:13:00] chrisrico nefario: I don’t deny that. however, you did so with the help of OUR funding
[18:13:07] chrisrico it’s not like you did it for free
[18:13:16] nefario AND MY FUNDING
[18:13:34] chrisrico but at least 75% OUR funding
[18:13:41] ColdHardMetal 83% actually - [18:15:39] shareholder4 by the way, who’s gonna gete those unclaimed bitcoins?
[18:15:46] chrisrico what happens to the bitcoins of the individuals that don’t agree to offer their identities?
[18:15:55] nefario they don’t get it
[18:16:01] chrisrico what happens to it?
[18:16:05] shareholder1 but who gets it ?
[18:16:05] nefario I don’t know
[18:16:06] chrisrico you keep it?
[18:16:09] nefario HAHA
[18:16:10] nefario me
[18:16:11] nefario lol
[18:16:11] ColdHardMetal we stick it in a public address and it sits there forever.
[18:16:23] chrisrico that includes shareholder funds?
[18:16:26] da2ce796 ColdHardMetal: yep
[18:16:34] nefario I’ll ask the lawyer what we do with the funds that are not claimed
[18:16:42] shareholder3_ is good for them and creates some good PR
[18:16:43] shareholder1 it has to sit in a public address forever
[18:17:00] shareholder1 no forced donation
[18:17:04] shareholder1 thats unethical
[18:17:05] shareholder3_ ok
- [18:17:36] shareholder1 are you paying the lawyer from company funds ?
[18:17:37] nefario in which case
[18:17:43] nefario ja
[18:17:53] nefario it’s a business cost
[18:17:57] chrisrico what bullshit
[18:20:19] shareholder2 OUR money was used for a shitty lawyer who told you to close down GLBSE and devalue our shares to 0?!
- [18:18:50] nefario chrisrico: I’m responsible for GLBSE, if you wan’t to come along and put your name down and say you ran everything then go ahead
[18:19:15] chrisrico you could choose to turn over all passwords and funds, and remove yourself from the operation
[18:19:33] nefario I’d be held responsible for everything up to now
[18:19:57] chrisrico you’re screwing us to cover your own ass, at least own up to it
[18:20:02] shareholder4 nefario: you’ll get immunity if you shut it down now?
- [18:20:41] nefario shut down and start up with a clean slate
[18:20:52] chrisrico then send me back my 250 BTC right now - [18:21:51] shareholder2 GLBSE under illegal operation had a monthly deficit of over 600 or 800BTC because it paid for a lawyer
[18:21:56] chrisrico da2ce796: not for the purpose of dissolving the company and holding funds hostage
[18:21:57] shareholder2 how do you imagine it will work out legally - [18:27:46] nefario I’ve not spent any funds on the lawyer yet
[18:28:46] chrisrico are you paying him with company funds for both roles?
[18:28:59] nefario chrisrico: I’m not being represented personally by a lawyer
[18:29:09] nefario for GLBSE only
[18:29:19] chrisrico [16:36] nefario but the one who is representing me has said that I shouldn’t say much
[18:35:41] shareholder2 ok, then where are the lawyer expenses in the income statement?
[18:35:57] nefario the lawyer has not been paid yet
[18:50:43] nefario since GLBSE is not a legal entity
[18:50:45] shareholder2 i thought nefario = glbse?
[18:50:47] shareholder3_ ^^^^ nefario?
[18:50:49] nefario I am representing GLBSE
[18:50:49] nefario I am representing GLBSE
- [18:37:12] nefario I have ALL THE OTHER DEPOSITOR MONEY
- [18:42:42] ColdHardMetal 57.85% for. My vote doesn’t matter. Motion carries.
[18:42:51] shareholder2 that’s funny
[18:43:09] shareholder2 nefario who wouldn’t observe the result of a motion concerning him forces theymos to do so
[18:43:12] shareholder2 oh well
[18:43:17] chrisrico what happened with the vote to remove nefario as CEO?
[18:43:24] chrisrico out of curiousity
[18:43:24] shareholder1 didnt pass
[18:43:24] ColdHardMetal didn;t pass - [18:43:54] nefario ColdHardMetal: give theymos a BTC address for him to send you the remaining GLBSE user funds he holds
- [18:45:15] nefario buckworthsolicitors.co.uk/
[18:45:32] chrisrico and, the lawyer who is handling this, what is their name?
[18:45:51] chrisrico to whom should I ask to speak regarding this matter?
[18:45:53] nefario michael buckworth - [18:59:59] shareholder3_ what were those big news nefario?
[19:00:09] nefario BitPay
[19:00:18] shareholder3_ tell us more
[19:00:20] shareholder2 what about them?
[19:00:36] nefario wanted to IPO when we sorted out legal shit out
[19:01:05] shareholder2 so bitpay killed GLBSE by having you trying to legalize it
[19:18:39] ColdHardMetal can I get a motion to adjourn? [19:18:51] da2ce796 I motion that we adjourn [19:18:55] chrisrico no, nefario is [19:18:56] nefario I propose we adjourn [19:18:56] shareholder1 aye [19:19:03] chrisrico he has given us NO evidence that he is in legal distress [19:19:07] nefario I second that motion -- [19:19:16] ColdHardMetal ok, all in favor? [19:19:26] da2ce796 aye [19:19:27] nefario aye [19:19:29] chrisrico aye [19:19:30] ColdHardMetal aye [19:19:25] shareholder4 aye [19:19:35] shareholder2 yes [19:19:41] ColdHardMetal motioon carries. [19:20:01] ColdHardMetal meeting adjourned at 1:20 am GMT October 6th, 2012 [19:19:41] shareholder2 chrisrico: remember the pirate pass throughs on GLBSE and the SEC investigation [19:19:56] chrisrico shareholder2: and? [/list] Outside Comments theymos > "Nefario stole GLBSE from the BitcoinGlobal shareholders and refuses to obey our motions. We don't have anything to do with his actions now." OCT 12 http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/118tii/global_bitcoin_stock_exchange_shuts_down_for_good/c6km16jNefario > “keep in mind that GLBSE is linked to me and my identity, I’ve used my credit cards to pay for the domains, servers and other items. If I passed control of it to anyone else(especially an anonymous person), and it continued to operate, knowingly breaking laws and attracting attention then I would be found liable.” http://bitcoinmagazine.net/global-bitcoin-stock-exchange-shuts-down-for-good/
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recapAll TYGRR assets have been moved off GLBSE (delisted)
Goat has been given all the information he needs to be able to continue doing TYGRR's business and continue his relationship with his asset holders without GLBSE.
He has a list of codes which shows what code has how much of the asset.
If you had any TYGRR assets you will see the claim code in your portfolio.
Contact Goat with the claim code, and he will known how many of the asset you have, and you will be able to continue your relationship with him.
Nefario.
All that random junk is some sort of "code"?
I guess I will have to have a stock exchange made that knows how to understand it. I hope you will be willing to work with them and explain your "system" ?
My obligation was with GLBSE. What happens if I pay back 50% and then GLBSE relists my assets like nothing happened? Then I'm really screwed as I owe them all again..
What about GLBSE's Nefario's obligation, theyhe acts as the middle man, an asset issuer can't even get any data about who holds the asset. Apparently GLBSENefario gets to fuck the issuers, then fuck the shareholders all while sitting in the middle with no liability, here's your secret code list, everything is all roses now. If GLBSENefario is going to act like this, then theyhe need to get out from the middle of the shareholder-asset issuer relationship. The asset issuer needs to know the usernames, withdraw addresses, number of shares owned of the shareholders. Otherwise GLBSENefario DOES HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE SHAREHOLDERS AND THE ISSUERS. One that is greater then, oh well weI quit, here's your secret code list.
You're very much mistaken.
Goat has been give a list of accounts with their balance, all an asset holder needs do is go to goat and give him their code.
We nolonger have any obligation to goat.
Goat, we refuse to do business with you anymore.
You are a liability.
We've provided you with a way to continue your commitment to TYGRR.* holders that doesn't involve us.
I disagree. Your secret code is not a stock exchange. There is no place for me to send the BTC. Your chickenshit method puts the burden on each and every shareholder to be proactive because the service that you provide has been removed, YOU FAILED IN YOUR OBLIGATION. You should also give the asset issuer contact information for all of the shareholders too, so they can contact them when the exchange just quits in the middle of operations. What a fucking joke.
your beef with Goat is also screwing your users who own any Tyggr's assets without any concern for these people.
Nefario and Goat, please tell us why you won't submit to paid, legally binding mediation through a neutral third party such as http://judge.me? I would be open to something like this however the asset holders need to take part, even a larger part than I take. What people forget is that they do not have to accept the code from Nefario. They should just tell Nefario it is not valid and ask for something else or perhaps even a refund. Nefario as the broker sold an asset. He then converted it into a unusable code. Nefario is the one here who took action, not the asset holders or myself. This is kind of creepy.
I agree. Don't get me wrong, this move is long overdue. I'm worried about the precedent it sets though. What precedent? 1. How about it is okay to delist assets as you please ... leads to 2. Ignore the board and shut down GLBSE without notice ... talk about foreshadowing. GLBSE == gameover
you prophet, no? I really think there should be some kind of contract between GLBSE and the asset issuers that is more than a TOS that can be changed at anytime.
BINGO but but but Goat, we refuse to do business with you anymore.
You are a liability.
We've provided you with a way to continue your commitment to TYGRR.* holders that doesn't involve us.
Good luck in your future endeavours.
Goat runs a "mining company" that doesn't mine, bonds that he can't back with BTC income, & an arbitrage company that as far as I can tell doesn't actually trade... He deserved to be delisted. I just worry about the way it happened and how it will effect shareholders.
okay so burn him BUT announce delisting pending ... Goat stocks will be dumped on the market but still 'trade-able' ... plus Goat could have time to state buy back options or other plans for his stock holders. In fact ... But thats not fair to me and other asset holders! We agree,it's not fair to holders of this asset, to other issers [sic], asset holders and GLBSE itself. Delisting is a last measure when trying to deal with problematic asset issuers who are actively trying to damage GLBSE. We have a responsibility to all asset issuers and asset holders on GLBSE, if any one person is doing something that puts everyone else at risk, including GLBSE operators then they have to leave. This is a market we all share, for it to work we must all play nice.
Nefario, I think we're entitled to an explanation of why we weren't given any prior notice. I think you know there is a problem with your action, gathering from the fact that you only respond to trolls here and prefer to answer us users through a notice on GLBSE. why was my balance/info given away to goat ? I hold some shares in tygrr , now i am being forced to contact goat to get my dividends (i dont talk to goat)
maybe give goat 3 months to close and delist his assets
Did the shareholders not buy GLBSE 24/7 trade-able shares, as opposed to private equity. As they say the writing was now on the wall ... I am done with GLBSE.
Am currently selling all shares, will be moving my BTC out, and not trading there ever again.
This is unprofessional and ridiculous.
Wow. Thanks to Nefario's behavior, I'm leaving GLBSE. Thanks to MPOE-PR's behavior, I'm never touching MPEX. And cryptostocks lists nothing worth investing in. 
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Bitcoin is Money.
And the inner circles of the Bitcoin community is in The Business of Money. A very serious business.
In any business Trust is the most important factor. This scoundrel burnt all his creditabilty to prove what? Thou shall not Trust anyone?
The Bitcoin community has demostrated great integrity and ablility to enforce the social code of Trust.
This liar was dealt with immediate justice. This is a victory that underscores the integrity of the Bitcoin community to maintain principles.
Thank you M.N. Wright and the league of Scammers for your lessons.
The Lesson / The Law :: If you enter into a pledge by oath of public promise ... you will honor it.
That is the bedrock of this network of Trust.
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The system is virtual and the american government has signalized that they want to remove this system before naive and gullible users become too involved. For such a system to work, it needs a 'rich' sponsor.
I assume by "gullible users" they mean "people who have realised how we screw them with centrally-issued fiat". the american government has signalized ... Who signaled and what did they signal? |
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