It's quite nice idea, but can you make it working for Datacoin? I think that, it's only working for a tokens released on ripple network, and you can't have cross atomic swaps chains, with it (besides probably you wouldn't do it anyway, because datacoin doesn't have malleability fix).
Or you could try to issue a token, which could be reedemed for Datacoin? But how would you enforced to make it reedemed for DTC? With your own stash of Datacoins? Because nobody would support for now, and it would be only up to people if they would accept these tokens or not.
So your thought is mainly to create a token, which 'could' be reedemed for real DTC, and it would trade to XRP? Like a credit based security? Without any other ideas, or without exchanges, it's the only way for now.
Yes, I want to issue a token. Do you have a Ripple address? |
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Thanks bugreporterr and MarcusDE. I put the topic on xrpchat.com (Under Problem Solving).
My ripple address is rngnE9TXY5FguLPrtKncZx4jYRRhaR1Zhd. I understand a "trust line" has to be placed on it before I can issue Datacoin to other users.
See if you can put a "trust line" on that address and also send me your ripple addresses so that I can put trust lines on them.
I remember that I created Freicoin (FRC) in the old Ripple Trade wallet. Not sure how to do it in this new Gatehub wallet.
Anybody who has experiences with "Issueances" and gateways in Ripple please speak up.
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Thank you Chicago. My bad. Nobody has ever sent me Datacoin so I assumed that 3000 confirmations were needed for ordinary transactions. So it turns out that normal transactions can already be spent after 6 confirmations. Then no change in the coin is needed.
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Is the network working at all? how many nodes are available? Was not there a dangerous blockchain fork?
Hi WGD, We've been tracking 20 or better nodes for the last several months. The coinbase maturity is 3000 and I haven't witnessed any wipeouts due to reorganization. Best Regards, -Chicago I say we need to drastically reduce the number of confirmations needed. All the coins are trying to increase transaction capacity and Datacoin is chugging along at 3000 confirmations. I understand that it was probably to stop censorship via 51% attacks, but that is not our immediate concern. We need adoption, and that means network speed. So I am seriously proposing that we drop the number of confirmations needed to 6. We all think that the disappearance of the developer killed the coin. But if there had been wider adoption other developers would have stepped forward sooner. |
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I was going to write and post a short progress report but “partner support mode” has been engaged, so ... later.
Not unreasonably, I've been asked if I would care to elaborate on the meaning of “partner support mode” ... Ngaio has a LTMC, fibromyalgia. In direct consequence my primary role is now to support her, engaged at the drop of a hat (literally). Which is why I insistently style myself as a “contributor” and not a “dev”. My own LTMC is CAD, l survived an infarct over a decade ago. You know the old Queen track, “Waiting for the hammer to fall”? A favourite of mine. Cheers Graham Sorry to hear that. You need to drink regular glasses of red wine. The Mediterranean diet and all that.... My uncle had a heart attack a few years ago, and he is basically being kept alive by raw garlic and liberal amounts of red wine. Cleans out the arteries. |
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PROPOSAL TO CREATE A DATACOIN GATEWAY ON RIPPLE A Ripple Gateway is like an exchange, and we need NO PERMISSION, but does need some IT skills which should be available in the Datacoin community. We can set up trading pairs for XRP/DTC, DTC/BTC, DTC/ETH etc. Ripple seems to help you. They have something like a support centre for gateways. This would expose Datacoin to the thousands of users of the Ripple GateHub wallet. I think this should be doable. Dash recently did the same thing: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/pre-proposal-create-the-first-dash-gateway-on-ripple.14721/It is very easy to create a GateHub wallet - go to www.gatehub.net. I have a fixed IP address (154.66.207.206). I understand I have to set up a rippled server. Anybody else have experience with this? |
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Datacoin (DTCN) is now listed on C-CEX voting page. C-CEX says they will change the symbol to DTC. Go cast your vote with your Bitcoin. https://c-cex.com/?id=vote |
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Ok, I'll try thanks (even tho I have GTX 780 hope it will work).
Yeah now when we are again on the 'wave of crypto' (just like 2013/14), we see that exchanges are more and more greedy, but it also true that they have more and more volume. Even nova has now over 1 milion unique hits a month. That's huge, for such a small exchange. And they are having now over 1 milion $ of BTC daily vol (mostly on scam coins like ATCC or BCC), but still that's huge.
I'm even glad that we at Slimcoin at least have nova (also angry, that we didnt hurry up on listing on other exchanges, like cryptopia or even try bittrex), because now it's almost closed door, for a community driven coins.
Exchanges charge large fees, and they know we don't have choice, because other exchanges arent well known or have 0 vol. Nova is low-vol exchange, but it has increasingly have more and more userbase, same with cryptopia. Bittrex or polo won't take normally coins like ours, even if we provide that we have unique features and other exchanges working, have 0 vol to trade with (even if they have nice interface and security options).
Chinese and indian exchanges are some way to go around, but they also have listing fees (high fees), abd they will likely to take more ICOs now, because it's "popular", than old coins. Also, I don't trust so much these exchanges - we were delisted from chinese one of them, even tho we still had network working, and they took up all coins with them and buried it down lol.
So for now you dont have much option than to trade through forum? Make exchange for yourself (it's managable to create one) or wait dor DEX and decentralized exchanges?
Nova seems to be the cheapest, with just 1BTC for a listing. If we could get just one listing then we could convert some DTC, as Marcus says. Some of the people on this thread have hundreds of thousands of Datacoin. There is even a wallet with 11 MILLION DTC. I did enhanced verification for Bittrex (passport, photos, the whole works). Same with Bter. Then I asked Bittrex, Bter and C-CEX to restore our listing. Lets hold thumbs for them and BTCPOP. |
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OK, finally C-CEX accepted Datacoin for voting but it is not yet appearing on the voting list. I suppose it will follow in a day or two. The initial problem was that another coin (DivotyCoin) created in 2017 had chosen the same symbol (DTC). So I submitted Datacoin as DTCN. I don't think this DivotyCoin will get anywhere, so hopefully if we get into C-CEX first we can reclaim the symbol. If I remember correctly, we were listed on C-CEX in the early days but we lost the listing when our developer disappeared. I will follow up to see if it is possible to reclaim the old listing.
I did register on Nova, and there are no other coins with the same name or symbol. But they demand 0.16BTC just for getting onto the voting list. The community will have to cough up that money. For now I think we have to watch what happens on BTCPOP. If we are successful there we can swop the Datacoins we mined to pay for the listings on other exchanges. The first to target would be C-CEX, Nova and Cryptopia. All you need with these exchanges is money.
Thank you very much for the suggestions so far. Please keep them coming - I am especially interested in Chinese and Indian exchanges.
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C-cex and free votes (but you must have more people on community to upvotes it).
C-CEX requires the community to vote with Bitcoin: Rules: You can vote for adding coin to our exchange here by depositing BTC to it's address. We are adding 1 winner coin each 14 days. All BTC votes are taking into account after 1 confirmation and rechecked at the moment of voting round finish. BTC sent to voting address are non-refundable. Coin dev must provide block explorer, website or forum thread with wallet links including source code link (github preferrable). Please, make sure coin is compatible with our existing interfaces. Currently the highest vote is for Krypstal at 3.001BTC. So to add Datacoin we will have to vote at least 3.002BTC. I tried to suggest Datacoin for voting but it does not seem to be on the list. |
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It looks like the environment at BTCPOP Exchange ( https://btcpop.co) is favourable for the listing of new coins. If anybody has had any experience with this site please share it. Good find ... (I think) The side-channel analysis is quite favourable. I'm comfortable with the non-nonsense stance - a Marshall Islands reg, no pretentiously misleading bogus T&C's. Reading between the lines, the most prolific blogger seems to be the manager. Maturity is evidenced in the writing style and approach. Capability is evidenced by the content, I find myself professionally interested in the (albeit under-powered) attempt to use textual analysis to beef up the p2p loan risk assessment. I shall register, see how we get on. Cheers Graham Thanks Graham. Much appreciated. I also get quite a good impression about the operator (Casimir). Seems like quite a hard-nosed guy. I suppose you have to be hard-nosed if you are in the loans business. |
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Can't you get on nova/cryptopia ? Just not yobit, this scam exchange is so bad.
I cannot register on Nova. For the last 3 days or so registration has been disabled. Registration on Cryptopia will effectively cost 2-3 Bitcoin. We need to buy 1 200 000 of their "DOTS". I want to see if we can get a free registration before we go for that kind of money. Once we are registered I will go for a modest media campaign on Cryptocoinnews, Cointelegraph, The Merkle etc. Hopefully that will attract more exchanges to us, rather than we having to pursue them. |
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It looks like the environment at BTCPOP Exchange ( https://btcpop.co) is favourable for the listing of new coins. I posted on the Coin Suggestions page. https://btcpop.co/forum/viewthread.php?id=1618The moderator seems quite active, so please add your voice on the thread in favor of Datacoin. Also answer any questions or gripes they may have. If anybody has had any experience with this site please share it. Thank you. |
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Answer from Poloniex: Poloniex < support@poloniex.freshdesk.com> Aug 27 (8 days ago) Dear ------------------, In order to have a coin considered for listing the coin developer will have to complete their Poloniex account profile fully and have it verified before we can consider the listing. Sincerely, Poloniex Support Team |
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If porting Datacoin's unique storage feature as a new script opcode into a plain Core clone becomes an understood process - - then perhaps we're left with just two more pieces.
I wasn't planning to take that route. The Datacoin approach is reasonably straightforward, uses an extra field in the CTransaction object, no impact on the opcode/scripting at all (afaict). Or have I missed something critical? I'd imagine the experiments would start by taking 0.8 Bitcoin/Litecoin and doing a big-bang with the additional script.
Even better, gatra's Riecoin is a primes-as-proof-of-work clone of straight Bitcoin 0.8.3, not a hint of “ppcoin” anywhere in the sources and a very useful set of version branches.
remotes/origin/0.10.2
remotes/origin/0.6.2
remotes/origin/0.6.3
remotes/origin/0.7.2
remotes/origin/0.8.1
remotes/origin/0.8.3
remotes/origin/0.8.4
remotes/origin/0.8.5
remotes/origin/0.8.6
remotes/origin/0.8.6-ric
remotes/origin/0.9.1
remotes/origin/0.9.2
remotes/origin/HEAD -> origin/0.10.2
remotes/origin/blockheaders
remotes/origin/freenode-verf
remotes/origin/master
remotes/origin/master-ric
So, I was able to upgrade foo1inge (via Primecoin) to 0.8.4 and 0.8.5 and then pull up to 0.8.6, at which point I was able to shimmy over to 0.8.6-ric, pick up the (albeit Riecoin-specific) primes-as-PoW architecture, then take a long running jump and grab to Datacoin 0.9.1. Which is where I am atm, cross-referencing against a Minkiz Foundry 0.9 Bitcoin Core template (to identify common change points). At this point, the refactoring of foo1inge Datacoin-specific code is still significantly incoherent with respect to the 0.9.1 base, so the next step is a cross-comparison of Datacoin vs its original cloneparent at the point of cloning - to more precisely delineate the original footprint of the Datacoin-specific changes and use that as reference for the final refactoring of the Datacoin code so that it is coherent w.r.t to an 0.9.1 codebase. It should only be a standing jump to 0.10 from there, iirc. And the only remaining Prime/PPcoin code will be limited to that which is required by the Datacoin-specific PoW routines, i.e. not a lot. Cheers Graham Graham you are amazing. |
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The other issue with upgrading is Segwit. I understand it will make easy cross chain exchange with other Segwit coins like Bitcoin and Litecoin.
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