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381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who can make a more CPU-friendly altcoin! on: May 15, 2013, 03:59:23 PM
I was thinking more of a pool that could block ip blocks...ie only one miner from said block, the others have to wait in a queue.....

This is a good idea, but breaks down with people who have dynamic IPs that change regularly.
Still the same concept -- try to force unique values in the mining process to stop botnets.
382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who can make a more CPU-friendly altcoin! on: May 15, 2013, 03:48:41 PM
As for cloud computing.. I can't see that as a strong argument.
Someone who has the resources can go out and but 100 GPUs, FPGA's or ASIC's and put them online... we face that problem now.

I like that it's resistant to GPU/FPGA and ASICS (I own GPUs and FPGAs -- and I still like the concept).
However, I see how GPU/FPGA/ASIC mining kind of solves the botnet issue... or, slows it down to a degree.

I see how the botnet issue is a wrinkle in the fabric of CPU only coins.
I can definitely see how someone 'could' solve this issue in the client -- but as soon as someone creates a pool for it, it's all over. 

Perhaps a client/pool that 'forces' a unique password for each miner... and impose password changing rules.
That could potentially shut down a botnet from mining  (solo or pool).



383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who can make a more CPU-friendly altcoin! on: May 15, 2013, 03:34:20 PM
My point exactly... you 'might' be able to mine it with a GPU... but doing so would be a complete waste of time.  Mining any other chain would always be more profitable that GPU mining YAC.

With that being said -- that kind of sets YAC aside into a unique category.
CPU only -- with proof if stake.

IMHO -- that really is a great combination.
384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who can make a more CPU-friendly altcoin! on: May 15, 2013, 03:25:15 PM
I like Yacoin only because --- it's CPU only at the moment.
I also like the the Proof of Stake integrated into the coin (oh yeah, it's a NVC fork).

What scares me with this coin is 'what if' someone modifies a GPU miner to use scrypt-jane.

Which leads me to the next question -- is that even likely.  
I am sure anything can be done... but can GPUs even run scrpyt-jane efficiently, or is it a waste of time.

That answer will define where YAC is likely to head in the future.
385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ஜ۩۞۩ஜஜ۩۞۩ஜ Elacoin = Failed ஜ۩۞۩ஜஜ۩۞۩ஜ OFFICAL TOPIC IS LOCKED = BIG FAILED on: May 15, 2013, 01:57:55 AM
I got locked out of the 1,700 coins I mined on the original Linux client.
The windoze client doesn't even recognize those coins.

The windoze block chain reports a different (larger) count than the Linux block chain... so my coins are lost.

For all the bickering and fighting... only 2 things came out of it for me.

1) I lost all the coins I worked so hard to mine since last night.
2) I cannot trust Milkshake OR Hazard with any coin launches (sorry).

Back to regular business.
386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Released | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 01:48:50 PM
only people that can mine it is linux users, no client for windows

It's not like Linux user received a 'Linux Binary' with the distribution of the code.
We had to actually compile the code to get a working binary.

You could follow the directions in the doc directory and -- make a 'windoze' binary just the same way.
Linux people didn't have the binary 'handed' to them.... sheesh.
387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Elacoin relaunched on: May 14, 2013, 08:10:53 AM
Ty Milkshake.
The mining has begun!!!
388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Official] So what happened to Elacoin? on: May 14, 2013, 07:32:12 AM
You can see the target in debug log.

The topic will be reopened once we have a genesis block.

POST AN ETA rather than random release!
Do you understand it is impossible for me to give an ETA? It's like mining, I don't know when we'll hit the genesis block.

What about launch in 24 hours then? Surely be done by then?
+1 also 12H so peaple can relax

No freaking way alot of people came out of bed for this go relax you snooze you loose Tongue
Lol +1
It's 2:34 in Chicago right now...
389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Official] So what happened to Elacoin? on: May 14, 2013, 07:30:57 AM
You can see the target in debug log.

The topic will be reopened once we have a genesis block.

POST AN ETA rather than random release!
Do you understand it is impossible for me to give an ETA? It's like mining, I don't know when we'll hit the genesis block.

Within the hour!
390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Official] So what happened to Elacoin? on: May 14, 2013, 07:30:23 AM
You can see the target in debug log.

The topic will be reopened once we have a genesis block.

after genesis block do we need download again client and compile or this last vesion will do ok?

Yes... pull the git, recompile, run client, make coins!!!
Oh, that's Linux instructions.

Windoze instructions are a little more complicated.   Roll Eyes
391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Official] So what happened to Elacoin? on: May 14, 2013, 07:28:46 AM
You can see the target in debug log.

The topic will be reopened once we have a genesis block.

Excellent news... ty Milkshake!
392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Official] So what happened to Elacoin? on: May 14, 2013, 07:19:15 AM
I pulled my previous post... it's obvious there is more going on here than is being relayed.
Unfortunately.. all this talk does is hurt the rep of two forum members.

Let's stop beating each other up...

Milkshake -- fix it.
Hazard -- work on your coin.
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Official] So what happened to Elacoin? on: May 14, 2013, 07:10:25 AM
Ignore the negative comments... don't let it derail you.
Pick up the pieces... announce a new launch time... and let's go!

394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Releasing Soon | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 06:36:21 AM
Wow... I fell asleep for a moment and had a nightmare.
I was dreaming of 0 and 1's,.... and I saw a 2!!!
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Releasing Soon | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 06:25:07 AM
I have created test coins and mined genesis blocks learning how everything works
... mining a genesis block can take up to an hour (or more)  depending on hardware.



You would need to be trying to hash the genesis block on a Tandy from the '80s for it to take longer than an hour (assuming you are doing it the correct way)

Ahh... ya got me... I did engineer it into 6809E (Yes, E) code and tried running it on a color computer 3!
Lol... Like I said.. I was learning -- not implying I knew fully what I was doing.
396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Releasing Soon | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 06:20:08 AM
I have created test coins and mined genesis blocks learning how everything works
... mining a genesis block can take up to an hour (or more)  depending on hardware.
397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Releasing Soon | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 06:17:12 AM
Seriously though... you download the source -- which contains the QT source.
At which point I would open QT Creator, and compile the --- wait for it --- "Windoze source"... or Linux -- if I am at the console.

398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Releasing Soon | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 06:12:11 AM
To recap:

* The developer is mining the genesis block on a netbook
* The developer is too incompetent to compile windows binaries

Well you are pretty much a dick yourself so I don't think there is much 'cred' in your bitching anymore.
You guys are rallying behind a coin whose developer can't even create a damn working client that 90% of the forum will rely on to use the coin.

Let that sink in for a second. His incompetence is alienating 90% of this forum right off the bat.
Because everyone uses Windows am I right?

Do you think I like closed source software?
Yes, I guarantee you that 90% of this forum uses windows. You must be some sort of turbonerd to be ignorant of that fact.

Yaaay!!!  I am part of the top 10% of 'something'!
399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Releasing Soon | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 06:08:59 AM
For releasing at such a time, where is the main node located?

Omicron Persei 8
That's my home planet... morbo smells funny human business!!
400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Releasing Soon | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine on: May 14, 2013, 06:07:05 AM
This isn't a great start OP, had this coin have launched bang on time, with a Windows qt and genesis block already sorted, you'd have a lot of hashpower on your coin right now.
Because someone leaked the source code.

Say whaaaa?
Source code has the wrong genesis block hash anyway... waiting for an updated main.cpp    Cool
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