It should either be a yes or no go to you. Before using a VPN you should already know this, and it's the nature of bitcoin that your IP will change since it's function is to mask your real IP so the user would be able to achieve privacy. But if that privacy will potentially put your account at risk due to a possible violation of TOS, well, every gambler should already know the risk of using a VPN, after all it still matters on how much you can risk of losing as this KYC thing if will trigger, it will freeze your account.

Being active in the forum will only be the solution to your problem. Although reading other resources is also a good option, but the forum alone is already highly proven effective for learning even for beginners. Note that posts that are made without good analysis will often be mark as off-topic, so don’t rush in posting if you are clueless on how to make your post right. Try to gain insights and ideas first from those legendary ranks and learn from their way of posting, that helped me before so I’m sure that will also help you as well.

There are no shortcuts to success as there is no easy money. Everything comes from hardwork and efforts. However, seems not all have realized this as there are still some of us who want to go for quick profits, and big profits, even if they know they’re not capable to earn it. Sometimes we need to teach people on working and striving hard so they can enjoy the profits that have experienced by those who are already successful, it’s up to them if they will take that as their advantage or just continue to ignore them. But in the end, only one thing is certain, there won’t be money if they are not capable to earn and gain it from the start.

Learning from others mistakes in trading is actually a good guide for us so we won’t repeating their mistakes again. However, it’s a lot helpful if you learn from your own mistakes and eventually grow from it. Trading will not be master without mistakes and losses along the way, so for me I think it’s a must for us to pass that stage so we will end up learning from it.

Those successful traders these days have their own set of mistakes and losses in the past, but they use it to challenge and motivate them to grow and lead them to where they are right now.

People won’t live and survive if they never spend and buy their necessities in life. So that’s already given. However, if you only focus on spending and only earn from a single source of income, you will certainly become poorer and poorer in the process. That’s why taking investment is highly introduced and encouraged. That way, even if your expenses are high since the prices of basic commodities are also highly increasing, your investment profits will also be a lot of help to you to combat your financial problems.

If you want to achieve a clearer goal in trading faster, then getting a mentor is the key. Of course you need to spend some quite high amount for that since you are using his service for your own personal gain and interest. It’s like you are paying his trading experience so that you can also be more like him in the future. However, being cautious in looking for a mentor is quite risky these days, that’s why research his background a lot so that you will end up with a reputable trader that can also influence your trading success in the future.

I have also seen that. People still end up panic selling when they are seeing bitcoin price drops drastically and end up deciding to sell even at a lower position. Once you resort doing that, accept already that you’ll end up losing from your investment. However, there are still rare people who manage to be patient and hold their coins like there’s no plan of selling. And it’s obvious that they’re already in profits right now if they decide to sell. But I guess people like them will still wait for the final bull run, and will not waste the opportunity of selling their coins before bitcoin bull run event takes place.

Exactly. One who never gets to save might not be capable to invest as well. So always save first and when you’ve gained sufficient funds to build up as your capital, then take some risk and invest. However, all investments take risks so you should be cautious and always study your investment first before finally putting your funds into it. At least you’ll gain higher probability to succeed.

On the other hand, you should also continue saving while investing. Not all investments will be successful and will work based on your plan, so save so you can have some back ups in case investments are not meant for you.

DCA is the key. Don’t rely on btc price dropping to its dips because to be honest, we don’t hold the future price of bitcoin. We may see it dropping today, but we can’t assure if it will stay that way by tomorrow. So always buy whatever the price because you are not here for quick profits, but certainly for long term investment and long term profits.

While it’s an opportunity to buy bitcoin when its price dumps, but if you have bigger faith for bitcoin, you will notice that everyday brings an opportunity to buy. Despite of bitcoin expensive price, I’ll always see it as highly valuable to buy and accumulate more through DCA.

Bitcoin investment is a long term investment, so one should deal with it with patience and faith most especially that bitcoin does not end up with a fixed price, due to its high volatility that leads to price fluctuations from time to time. Hence, seeing it as a get-rich-quick is impossible, since bitcoin never gives massive profits by investing short term but most likely it’s always long term. However, I believe bitcoin can make an investor poorer if he does invest without prior researching and acquiring basic knowledge, thus jumping into investing due to greed for money. But if you invest in bitcoin with long term planning, then success and getting rich in the end will certainly be possible.

Of course, it would be another story already if you have been trading for so long and yet you still incur more losses than gains, obviously you are not doing the right thing in trading. I always believe trading is not for everyone, although we can always decide to trade but success only comes for those who are actually highly capable to trade and always manage their emotions and make good decisions despite of their losses and gains in trading.

Failure is part in trading. We all know that all traders started from a scratch, and so everyone is susceptible to mistakes and losses, hence while success is the goal in trading, but without failure there can be no success in the long run.

I'm just trying to get some information here that coudl help me or others to get educated about this. Maybe i like to see @Kirito89 explain about this as your explanation does not satisfy me. No offense mate, let's consider this a healthy argument as that would make the forum better, right?

Or you don't understand me too. Either one of us does not want to understand what one is talking about.


General terms has to be detailed or specific as you can't take that argument in the court, and sometimes, casinos could use that to exploit gamblers too (we should protect gamblers too). I'm against illegal way to win in gambling ( BTW, to make it illegal, there should be a law or rules regarding to that, specific)... but I just don't see that the kind of vulnerability you are talking that a casino could easily prove, a mere suspicion is not enough to freeze an account and will not release the funds.

Well, casinos could freeze an account without any reason related to their TOS if they would hate you, but they should give you the money unless they prove you have violated something that requires your funds to be confiscated.

What I understand about "casino or sportsbook vulnerability" is related to its program or security, where a user has abused it. Maybe we can include abuse of bonus as well. But someone put a bet because he got tips and win, that's not illegal, and it's hard to proved that in the court of law.

Whay I talk about the court of law? Because when two parties does not agree, they need to be settled by a 3rd party, which is the court of law and the casino could not use a "mere suspicion" or pattern of betting as a solid evidence. 

One can never be late in bitcoin as long as he does not procrastinate. Welcome to the forum! First and foremost, you have to establish in yourself bigger interest to learn and patience so that you will never feel tired and boredom while you are in the process of exploring the forum and acquiring knowledge everyday. And as what others are saying, the links posted above can be a great help for you as a starter. So learn to maximize learning so that you can absorb a lot of new insights and ideas that will help you understand the forum more and the whole crypto space most particularly bitcoin.

I read that, and I used that as a basis of my opinion, and stand on it, unless you prove me wrong by answering my question at the bottom>


Okay then, if you really know the rules of a sportsbook. Would you be kind to let me know what rules the service of OP is violating?

Please be specific and don't make assumptions....

And it's more reliable compared to what gamblers can read about them in a review site that could sometimes be bias. Having an ANN thread, this will be see as a transparent feedback from the users since they cannot censore it. With less or no negative feedback, that would tell that they have a good reputation and the fact that they are still active here running a campaign (probably a long term one), as a gambler that makes me think that MetaWin will be one of the leading WEB3  casinos in the future.


For sure they will as people were talking about their big rewards, that alone already creates some curiousity and eventually those people will try the platform and once they enjoyed they'll stay. If they could afford big rewards, for sure they can also run more promo in the community (bitcointalk), or maybe add more participants in the campaign for bigger exposure.

I can see where the comparison is coming, well, if other casinos particularly stake which one of the most popular charge a very minimal withdrawal fee, sometimes it could be considered as a standard basis, so some might complain. But you are right, if they are not happy then they should not be playing with this casino. I think wintomato has to evaluate this thing as this could be crucial in gaining loyal gamblers, I mean if they are happy with the fee, they'll continue to play and will eventually increase their wagers in the long run, what matters is the activity is continues. It's about volume versus the amount of bets, because with volume of gamblers, this could assure that income is coming regularly.

Stake has probably billions of bets coming in a monthly basis, so cheap withdrawal fees could be the key here. In fact, IIRC, there were casinos before that does not charge a withdrawal fee, not sure if there's still some now.


That's the point... even in my case, I would choose to use altcoins as it's faster to confirm and transaction fees are cheap.

I'm just curious, since i'm not using DOGEcoin for my gambling needs, I like to know how much is the fees for other casinos? At 20 doge, it is converted to $3 (more or less).. So that's really big if you are gambling within the range of $100 and below.. However, if you are gambling with $1000 and up, then I think that amount is acceptable. At the end of the day, it's still up to us if we continue to not since we have a lot of casinos in the space, but people complaining should be considered as a constructive critcism that a casino needs to improve to gain more gamblers.

The point here is that the service offered by OP is that they are the team that will make a commentary on the actual game that might have a delay in live TV... And personally, I don't think it's something illegal, and if it's not illegal, then the casino has no right to investigate or hold our winnings.

This is clearly just a lapses on the part of the bookmakers, bettors sees that lapses and taken it as an opportunity to make money, so if they can't correcct that lapses on their part, they will continue losing but they can't confiscate and freeze the funds of the bettors even if they have the same pattern.

Thing is, this is sports betting, like I emphasize, there's two teams in the game,  you can only choose one side, and if you are on the right side, you'll be profitable. Bookies will not loss by the way as they are just a facilitator, and the the line movement will fix the odds to create balance on both sides.



But this is not arbitrage betting.... Even so, arbitrage betting is not illegal and therefore should be allowed.  However if the bookies have their rules to disallow it, they can do so since it's their rules, but there's always a counter on that if you are a smart bettor, you can use two different bookies to make it work.

There are different ways of privacy, and I understand that the moment we comply with the KYC requirement, they already know our identity. But not knowing where we are gambling is something we can consider as a privacy. If you don't see it as a privacy, then you are like saying when the government knows our identity we can already walk naked on the street as it doesn't matter anymore since we don't have privacy yet.

That's what I meant......


Why would we talk about "not being able to withdraw"? Does it automatically means that when you use VPN you lose your balance in the casino?

There's nothing wrong with using a VPN, we are in the crypto world and the main thing it promotes is privacy. VPN is just one thing that will add privacy to what we are doing online, and I like to also say this, I don't know why people think that using a VPN is an automatic violation to the TOS of a gambling site.

I guess we need to read first their TOS and decide whether we will use a VPN or not. If it's written that "Using VPN will result to account closure", then that's automatic a no for using a VPN, however if it goes like this "using VPN to bypass casino restrictions", then be wary that anytime the account could be block since you are attempting to break the TOS which the casino has the right to implement their rules.