^----nope, that's cheating (unless we are really stuck...)  The challenge for me is not just to find something, but to find something that looks interesting in some way. Granted, QR codes are interesting... |
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I have the 860watt version of this PSU in my computer, it's "probably the best psu ever" according to anandtech: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5464/seasonic-platinum-series-860wSince I need to have my computer on to mine I will use the computers power supply to power the bASIC's of course, but I would need really long molex power cables (want to have boards around 1.5meter from computer), any ideas where they sell meter long of those or I need to make them myself? I don't know that (you could really easly do that yourself, just be sure you take great cables). A sidenote: tension decreases with the distances of the wire. So if you have a 10 meter long wire and you start at 12V, you might arrive at 11V at the other side. I would be sure that i did it right before risking to damage Xk$ of mining device. finding one will be a miracle, it is intended to be an internal connector. You should be able to get the connectors pretty easily since they have been standard in industrial and computer equipment for 40+ years. Tension=voltage? Resistance increases as you go to a smaller wire (higher gauge) as well, so be sure to keep those lines nice and fat since they will be carrying 100W DC. |
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I first thought that he meant the first batch to be assembled would be all of the preorders..!
Lol, scrybe beat me to it.
Sorry about that, I I was so happy to see new data I could not resist! Don't confuse ASIC FAB Batch from Assembly/shipping Batch. 20,000 is a pretty small order for a fab, but it's huge for in-house assembly. I'm betting on a daily limit of 100-200 boards (750-1500 ASICs) for at least the first week, and it could be substantially lower. The first shipping batch (1/3rd's) is supposed to be able to go out 1 week after they get the ASIC's, we'll see what volume they hit. Personally I think Tom made a smart bet outsourcing almost the whole thing, but I understand BFL has had issues with that mode before, so hopefully they will do something cool with their in-house capability. We might actually see the scenario where BFL "ships first" by putting out daily production, but Tom gets his whole first batch out before BFL is done with theirs. |
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As of yesterday 10.30.2012: (from BFL_Josh on BFL Forums) Guys (and gals), I am really sorry things are delayed. I want these things to ship more than anyone else (seriously, I promise you, I want these to ship) and the delays are just as hurtful and awful to us as they are to you. We would love nothing more than to ship them all out yesterday.
The first batch should be about 20,000 chips or so. More than enough for all pre-orders and then some. With regards to bASIC, given the fact that Tom has shown basically nothing, no renders, no prototype, not even any power estimates, it seems exceedingly unlikely he will ship before us. I'm not saying it's impossible of course, but there are many "fishy" things about the bASIC offering. Of course, the whole power issue, which Tom refuses to acknowledge is one of the biggest clues that things are not right in the bASIC world. If he were as far along as he implies, he would at least have a fairly reasonable and accurate power estimate, but his little "slip" of less than 100w for 54 GH/s is pretty unrealistic at 90nm, especially if it's Cell ASIC or something similar. Again, I'm not saying it's impossible, maybe Tom has come up with major surprise and be able to ship on his currently stated timeline, but it seems unlikely at this point. Be that as it may, I absolutely promise we will be shipping our units as fast as we possibly can.
For the record, we do not use TSMC, which I suspect Tom uses. I really wish the Bitcoin Magazine article would come out so I can talk more openly about our technology /sigh. Even if Tom were to ship a few days before us (which seems exceedingly unlikely at the moment), the long term ROI on our units vs the bASIC is vastly superior, so you'd make up the difference in the long run. Is that ideal? No, of course not, but it does make a difference, no matter how much the bASIC people try to convince themselves that power efficiency doesn't matter. A year or two down the road when your Bitforce unit is still earning money, the bASIC owners will have a sad panda face when they look at their worthless hardware that costs more to power than it earns and thus has absolutely no use what so ever. Then, on top of that, you'll likely be able to send us your old unit for credit towards a new unit.
Just sayin' And this little nugget: (from BFL_Josh on BFL Forums) Some aspects of the chip production ended up taking longer than expected to get rolling, which is why we have ended up paying for a bullet run and we're looking at ~25 days or so. We still intend to do the 1/3 shipping plan, I'm just saying we are getting that many chips in our first production batch... as in, we are getting enough to satisfy a lot of orders, but obviously we can't physically assemble 20,000 chips worth of orders in a few days. Not without hiring like 40 more people at any rate. Thanks for the info. For all the forecasters out there we just got some ASIC shipping volume confirmation! (20,000 chips, enough to cover all pre-orders and then some) Assuming all chips were put into singles and run at 7.5GH/s (60/8=7.5) then we are looking at a grand total of 150TH of total capability from this initial batch at release speeds. Given that we have heard over and over about multiple batches of preorders, I'm assuming that all 20k will be not be hitting the streets at once but will be spread out over a 2-3 months. |
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But until something else has been established you guys have to at least acknowledge that doing business with BFL and their imitators is significantly more risky than lets say buying socks.
Have you seen the resale value on used socks lately? Horrible investment advice  |
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Jokenstorm. American sensationalism at its finest with this one.
Ah, I'm an American and I totally agree. Flipping people up North are a bunch of wusses. I have a lot of friends up there that freaked out, lost power for about 6 hours and are fine, but you would think they just went a flood, an earthquake and a twister all at the same time. Meanwhile when I lived in Florida a while back and we had 3 hurricanes in the span of a month, they were like, "Oh, you had a few rain storms, that's too bad..." And if I hear another person on the news or radio say that this is the worst storm to ever hit the US again I'm gonna choke someone. Yeah? Does it screw up your subways? Does it turn into snow? Does it affect 50 Million people? (hint, FL only has 16M in the whole state) You said it yourself, you live in storm country, you know how bad it can be, now think of the worst you have ever seen, and how the cast of Jersey Shore are equipped to deal with it. Granted, there are a lot of smart folks too, but they don;t think about hurricanes half the year like you do in FL. Take a look at some of the numbers, and then make a real comparison if you like, but don't troll on disaster victims. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/29/14777524-superstorm-sandy-by-the-numbers?litehttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9644744/Hurricane-Sandy-the-key-figures.htmlIt ain't cool with Katrina, Sandy, or Andrew (which killed 65, Sandy is already up to 55) and living in FL, you should know it. FYI, I think it was called Frankenstorm because of the collision and merging of 2 large and active storm systems of different types. So the very different storm models had to be "stitched" together to allow for any sort of predictions. (at least a meteorologist buddy is claiming this is the source) |
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Quick request that the SATA-> Molex adapters become available on BTCFPGA.com, or that you transfer the accounts over to bitcoinasic.net so that I can just straight buy them from there.
Cheers Tom!
He put a Molex onboard as well as the barrel connector, it was cheaper than adapters. So no problems there. Re: UL/CSA certifications, those have to be held by the device that plugs into the wall (mains for the Brits) but the devices that use the DC power provided by your Seasonic or wall-wart does not require UL Listing or CSA certification in any case that I am aware of. Otherwise every video card, etc would have to have UL listing. This is a major reason why the wall-wart has gotten so popular over the last 25 years, international flexibility actually being number 2 in cost savings for at least one of my customers. |
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Aww,no TOASTER STRUDEL   Hey, if you want to be accused of having a greasy jalapeno, go for it. Sounds a bit too nasty for my taste though. |
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FACT: Several other manufacturers and BFL have been producing mining equipment starting last year and early this year. FACT: BFL had significant delays, and a 4x difference in projected and actual power utilization, even after shipping started it remained slow for some time. FACT: BFL started taking preorders back in July, some folks have been waiting on them since then, impatiently FACT: BFL stated initially that they would be shipping October, and at some point updated that to October/November. FACT: Late on 10/29/2012 BFL updated their shipping outlook to the very end of November, most likely the first week of December for first shipments. (added 10/30/2012) ( https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/251-More-Jalapeno-Pictures-amp-Shipping-Update) FACT: BFL updated their unit to be more competitive, and has blamed some of their challenges on this FACT: BFL is has experienced some sourcing issues on the heat sinks for the SC Singles, but the issues are believed resolved (added 10/30/2012)FACT: BFL expects the final revision of the ASIC chips in hand in about 25 days (est. 11/26/2012) (added 10/30/2012)FACT: BFL has stated they will perform assembly and ship about a week after once the chips come in (this implies that they are doing final assembly of chips to boards in-house, but does not confirm it) (added 10/30/2012)FACT: BFL is having sourcing issues for the VFD displays for the minirigs which requires changes to display and case, but have stated that it will not "affect the timeline in any material fashion" and Josh seems oddly smug about something... (added 10/30/2012)FACT: BFL has not yet made any statements that shipping would not begin before the end of November. They have told BitCoin Magazine that they would be shipping late in November, but they have never said they would start in December. (outdated on 10/30/2012) FACT: BFL has stated an intention to ship all pre-orders through September "by the end of the year" (IIRC, not sure about when they made the statement, thought it was early October) FACT: BFL has invested in (new/upgraded) board level fabrication and assembly tools for use in batches after the first one FACT: BFL has Millions of dollars in preorders, outside investors watching them, and huge community pressure to deliver on time and in spec Supposition: BFL is very motivated to succeed, are not likely to take off with the money, and will in fact deliver a product, within their October/November timeframe, or tell us that they are missing it. Until we hear that they are shipping or delayed we get to wait. Some folks are not so good at waiting, so if you notice someone saying in the 35th thread that BFL is a scam and are stealing all the money, just hit the little link under their name that says "ignore" and get on with it. If something bad enough to really get concerned about happens, you will see reputable posters talking about it quickly enough. (If anyone sees errors above or has updated information, please let me know and I'll update the post.) I've updated the fact-list above, please let me know if you have factual disputes with any of the fact items, or want to expound on the suppositions. This list was originally created as troll repellent, feel free to put it to good use, just be careful to label your facts and suppositions accordingly. Partial Confirmation: BFL_Josh has made an official statement on shipping expectations, delaying the ship date, but they did communicate it in advance and not just let it slip. Several additional details revealed. Supposition:BFL is still very motivated to succeed, are not likely to take off with the money, and will in fact deliver a product, within their early December timeframe, or tell us that (within 2 weeks) that they are missing it. Until we hear that they are shipping or delayed we get to wait. Some additional things that are semi-confirmed: Supposition: BFL is using the smallest process of any Bitcoin ASIC manufacturer this generation, many are pegging 65nm as the likely process node. Supposition: BFL Believes that they will still be selling a competitive product well into next year On a lighter note: But will it still heat my coffee
The new flat surface is best used for making grilled cheese instead of warming coffee. |
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Got my order, quick and easy!
Notes are high quality and packaged well.
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The storm is huge. It will get close. Maybe Detroit area could be on the western tip. I know southern Ontario will get hit. I guess it depends on how much they rely on the east coast for supplies and manufacturing.
Design is done on the west coast, fab and assembly are in Asia, Management, Service and Shipping are in New York. Stay safe Tom! |
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No just am not going to waste time on something, I can not change peoples minds about, some people do not understand this concept which is acceptable. But they tend to be the ones who make snide stupid comments and try to belittle people for there lack of agreement on the subject. There once was a time when people could disagree about things and leave it at that, but we have become cavemanish about this, and you Sir make the perfect example of why.
Bonus point, highlight the irony in this quoted post. |
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show both devices in one foto makes sure it taken at the same timeframe now they just upgraded the jally board few days later added some parts take another shoot and he there is the SC board,, yeah right...grow a dick and mine on...  Thanks troll, we really needed another insane theory... https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/190-More-board-pics |
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Ill just agree to disagree how does that sound
I'll agree that you disagree to discuss the issue and make an actual case. Honestly we have not reached a principal disagreement yet, except perhaps on your willingness use of words in a misleading way. Already one troll has picked up your post and is grafting a new turd onto it as I formulate this reply. I would prefer you attempt to convince us that these are fakes rather than engineering samples or any other potentially legitamate use, rather than just running around hollering about the fake ASIC gear without backing it up. To date I have heard nothing except wild guesses and illogical arguments that proves that BFL is faking anything for malicious purposes. If it is not malicious, why do you feel the need to use language that is 99% likely to be taken as Trolling? If you have honest concerns, air them, and we can find some points to disagree on. If you don't care enough about your pet theory to put it to the test then I only care as much as I see it as FUD-slinging, which is what I read. We may well have fundamental disagreements on the role of government, or the power of markets, likelihood of getting caught, or a number of other influences on the actual scenario. Without at least drilling down 1-2 levels to understand the reason you formed your opinion, all I can do is put it in my existing framework and get the same result. I didn't believe in Hawking Radiation because it's named after Stephen Hawking, believe in it because others have tried to find errors in it and either failed, or improved the theoretical understanding of Black Holes. One thing science proves is that you get a lot more done trying to prove other people wrong than when you just agree to disagree. I'm willing to be proven wrong, because I've learned a lot more in the past when I was wrong, but I've had an easier time of things when I was right. Both are good states, as long as my average doesn't slip too badly |
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Cause Inaba said there is no prototype lol.... So that means these are fakes
No, that just means that they don't have a prototype of this board running, it does not mean they are "fakes" A fake is something intended to fool. An engineering sample is a more likely possibility. There are lots more things in this world than black/white, it is a logical fallacy to state that just because something fails the test for "A" it has to be "B", it could in fact be "C", "D" "3.14159", "Taco", or any other possible option. In this case we have far more than 2 (but less than infinite) possibilities. Quit trolling, you have interesting things to say sometimes so I would hate to have to ignore you. |
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Fact BFL posted these fake pictures of a product they have not made yet.
 Fact: Facts are true Fact: BFL has posted pictures of what are assumed to be non-working engineering samples by some members of the forum. Supposition: Maybe they made some with a generic package (with no ASIC inside), so they could make sure the case, heatsink and everything else works before ordering 10,000 of everything. |
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Is the hurricane in US likely to add further delays ?
Doubtful, Unless any parts are already in transit inside the affected areas. Or Tom gets hit in the head by flying debris, but it looks like the storm track has the winds down to 30-40MPH by the time they get to upstate. Stay safe Tom! |
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Yes there are at least 2 pools creating the blocks.
One is running poolserverj and another isn't.
It was just interesting to see 11 out of 16.
I went looking for the other thread just now and yeah back then (a month ago) it was only 8%
Anyway, as can clearly be seen, for this 2 hours it was 69% of the blocks that blockchain say were relayed by 82.130.102.160
You know about http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/index.php, right? Looks like 50BTC had a run of luck, 5 of 8 blocks! The above posters and others have mentioned ETH Zurich, which is a supercomputer project that's optimized for different things than the average mining pool. It's a common suspect here, but in this case you really did see a string of luck from a single pool, you just had (even more) incomplete data only looking at the one site, and got lucky. Bitcoin is all about luck though, so good one! |
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I was told january before I canceled my order
When did you place yours, what order number? |
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