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1121  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: August 07, 2017, 12:55:51 PM
What differentiates between traders is EMOTION, not necessarily the strategy. What makes some traders successful and others not is this same emotion and that is why we shall continue to have panic sellers and buyers. The market needs them both to continually have fluctuations and liquidity.
So this is reason the whales are people understand the mentality of most trader on market, and them take this advantage for create some rumor make the emotion of trader worry, fearing, happy, interesting ... as their want. Final losser always trader and they have a huge profit from that.
Whales are the manipulators in the market although they can't really make bitcoins dump or pump but they make and do another way which will have a more than big impact in just a low cost of spending to proclaim a FUD or fake news to make people in panic.
1122  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Is Bitcoin's Value So Volatile? on: August 07, 2017, 11:47:57 AM
Why Is Bitcoin's Value So Volatile? I am confused to buy bitcoin now when it's value is too high.

Because that was the nature of bitcoins and its volatility is the reason why bitcoins price is still going . If you are confused to buy bitcoins think when you will be not ? everytime your mind will think it was a high price but when bitcoins price goes $3400-$3500 you will be confused again and say it was too high .
1123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Problem with ICO on: August 07, 2017, 10:55:25 AM
I personally think that letting the value of a coin fall below the ICO price is a big problem in a ICO. developers should do something about it they always reason that it is because of bounty hunters dumping their coin but for me that isn't a good excuse especially for the investors.

For me The value of a coin or a token is a developer's responsibility, they should do anything to maintain the the price close or even above to ICO price,  because this will be a factor for the investors to get tired in investing they would rather prefer to invest after ICO when the price drastically falls down.

Dev's should place a buy wall when the value of  their token falls 25%-30% of the ICO price in that case the value of the token will be maintained or even go up and they will attract more investors in their project if they will do that.

This is only my opinion, correct me if im wrong. Whether you agree or disagree i would love to hear your thoughts and opinions about this matter.
I totally Agree with you, It is their responsiblility unless they only run their ICO and after collecting they leave their project.
Putting a buy wall isn't necessary thing as always because it will only create a dump of buy wall unless they will smartly use some buy walls in a good price range to make the price more grow it is on timing.  If you know how stratis dev done to their coin is totally impressing imangine how much yhey started and now the price is at good price.
1124  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Loss almost 40%, should stop trading or not ? on: August 07, 2017, 10:36:22 AM
never stop, patience is the key, i lost almost 90% when i started, then came back to make over 3000% and still going, i almost quit but i'm glad i didnt, you gotta have patience and confidence over all, that or just hodl
Good fighting spirit bro , You're losses doesn't become a reason for you to stop and that be you best motivation to get back and correct what are your mistakes and get a much bigger profit .I think you learn many things in trading because of that ,keep trading keep it up.
1125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO] Primalbase: Distributed Workspace for Tech Community - June 26 on: August 06, 2017, 03:24:12 AM
I am really going to lose my faith in this project. Nearly there is no trade opportunity , no action. I try to sell pbt to buy some waves but but orders are very cheap and there is no volume etc.. Pfff
Give it a bit more time for the team to work on something. You cant seriously be thinking of doubling your money overnight.(Although I admit its happening with many other coins now )
You can leave PBT for a months and will see it more good value in the future .I believe Primalbase Team is doing it to have a better opportunity not only for them but for the holders of PBT token that will have a good value when they have already their product.
1126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin heading to $4,000 on: August 06, 2017, 02:56:41 AM
but to me i think we are not even going to stop on 4000$ but will proceed further.
It will definitely be higher and unlikely to survive at $4000, but to go higher we will take a long time and we just have to believe in bitcoin and do not panic if a big dump happens. I'm sure the end of this month bitcoin prices will strengthen at $4000 over the next few months and will touch $5000 by the end of the year. Who knows, it's just speculation and anything can happen.
You're right and i have mistaken my speculation as unexpectedly bitcoins has crossed more than $3000 .
Your speculation is too high for this 2017 end but i like it i hope that happens ,every year we saw a big price markup in bitcoins and its continuously surprising us.
1127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Reasons why Bitcoin Cash will take over Bitcoin on: August 06, 2017, 02:24:24 AM
The first time i saw and read the tittle makes me wonder and i am not surprised there some analogy explanations to make it true but will not click to the veterans in bitcoins maybe newbies will believe on it .
Do you think those provided informations will surpass bitcoins ? I am really sure it will not in with such a good free bch tokens ,is a desperate move at what else the founders of bch when it gets the AtH they will sell like what happens and the newbies who are hoarding expecting it to $1000 in some social media will just cry like what already happens BCh dump the show is done.
1128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Vs Bitcoin Cash on: August 06, 2017, 01:17:45 AM
I didn't have anything against bitcoin in cash if they started from scratch. After they handed out the coins free is for me a Scam. All who try to invest their money in bitcoin cash can immediately say goodbye to them.
Much better because I've heard that some of the exchange like livecoins supports bitcoin cash ,but i don't even believe and will not convince me to buy that because i don't even have any knowledge on it and on my own knowledge in trading its kinda produced by a Hypers because of the Segwit.
1129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Rex- A Peer To Peer | REAL Estate PLATFORM | [8900 ETH Raised So Far] on: August 06, 2017, 12:51:18 AM
Guys we have crossed more than $2,000,000 in fiat value. This is a serious try to revolutionize the real estate market on blockchain to connect everyone through it. Whether someone will be buyer or seller or rent seeking everyone will be beneficiary of this platform. It will run till the end of this month so many people will come and join the revolutionary platform.
Thats was good but we need more to promote it .I saw many real estate platforms now is also having an ICO this August and september but as i've seen REX is too far much better on it .
1130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Vs Bitcoin Cash on: August 02, 2017, 01:39:44 PM
What do you think of Bitcoin Cash?
Do you think it will have the same value as Bitcoin or it will be just another Alt. Coin in the crypto market?

I think bitcoin cash is another alt brought by hype and it is not a result of a fork right? So it is possible to dump .We dont know actually what is all about that altcoin and where it came from who is the creator of that etc. Don't be fooled by it and join the hype maybe it will only lose your money but it depends on you if you will take the risk.
1131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: God of gambling is just on the movies on: August 02, 2017, 01:10:48 PM
The gambler that can always be winning in every gambling games is just on movies, i don't see on real life  Cheesy
I don't think so , there are real gamblers who always makes money but not because on their luck its because of their too much skills in playing gambling they have a stratedgy or sometimes some cheats that they know to win in my opinion .
But no one actually makes a perfect winning who wins all the time.
1132  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 02, 2017, 12:06:42 PM
For me, it is better to invest to see higher returns but it comes with higher risks. I would say invest 50% and 50% savings.
That was much better to have a safe money if incase theres a failure fo your investments .High risk in investimg can be less if you leaen the process of your business .The risk is always there but risk is good to enhance our skills and to achieve our future goals in life.
1133  Economy / Economics / Re: How long could bitcoin last? on: August 02, 2017, 11:44:50 AM
I think that bitcoin will exist forever, but no one can guarantee that it will not be the first crypto currency in the list. Perhaps there will be another currency that will move it to second place.
We do not know but as far as i know and believe bitcoins will be the very first ,well almost all of the altcoins are based in bitcoins just see what happens in this August bitcoins dumps too low also followed by other altcoins.
Bitcoin will exist until it is use by people not only for own but its circulates in the market and we cant say that it will last forever.
1134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Rex- A Peer To Peer | REAL Estate PLATFORM | [7000 ETH Raised in 24 hours] on: August 02, 2017, 11:04:27 AM
Your goal of 133k ethers is too far off because you only have 7k ether.  The rate of new investment is stalled.  What would happen to the ico if you do not reach 133k of ether (There is a 99% chance of not reaching that goal)
There still more time and i do believe if it will not reach the goal it would be more than half of that will be raised .But instead we are too far in the last minute of ICO we should be positive in REX more than asking what is too early to ask for.
1135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO] Primalbase: Distributed Workspace for Tech Community - June 26 on: August 02, 2017, 10:42:46 AM
I just read the report and it's simply amazing. So glad to have made this investment

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Exchange platforms

It only makes sense to be listed on exchange platforms when there's a
product and there's a organic demand for it.


That is incorrect imo. If you raise millions of dollars it makes sense to get on an exchange with decent volume to ensure there is easy market access to your token. Failure to do so has cost their investors millions of dollars.

If they'd been upfront and said we don't understand the crypto market very well and are only planning on being listed on Waves for the first few months, they would have raised <$2 million imo.

They will struggle to raise money in future on this precedent as without wide post ICO market access to a high value token significant value loss for investors is almost inevitable.  

I'm actually someone who benefits from this as I often buy tokens that are only listed on small exchanges, for much cheaper than ICO, without having to take the risk it's a complete scam and a few months further into development.

I still feel sorry for the ICO participants that lose money because start-ups don't value their investment &/or understand the importance of wide market access to their tokens to maintain ICO value.

This is a very good concept but perhaps not the team for it.


Yeah i think so it makes my mind confuse but you got a point .. The product that they say is not a guarantee to create a demand for this coin and they can already add it in some exchange if they wanted without a product it will be traded while the project is ongoing . And when the product is already launch we will see the true value of it we don't need a product before an exchanges .There are many possibilities .

I am agree it have a good project but not for the team .
1136  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 01, 2017, 02:35:04 PM
You will not get a fixed income if you follow the trading, and you will choose a service that is not as stable as income. So you must be smart in choosing a site that can be trusted as a fixed income you want.
Don't ever expect for you to have a steady income in online its business in online right but you may have a calculation of your possible income ranges with your activity that the clear thing.
A site service it depends in the job because just like i said in online it is not a fixed unless you have a boss online and you both have an agreement of your salary in days ,weeks ,or monthly basis.
1137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO] Primalbase: Distributed Workspace for Tech Community - June 26 on: August 01, 2017, 02:06:44 PM
please tell me why i can sell primalbase in the waves wallet ,
"error create '

Maybe you dont have any waves in your wallet
i have waves 0.9 ,
There's several error occured on DEX that goes with PBT token. User can't trade PBT if the amount of PBT isn't equivalent to 1 BTC. That's already inform to the dev, now waiting for an update regarding PBT token on DEX.
There is always an option to sell at that price or wait for their updates regarding the exchanges ,but it is more better if they will add it in much bigger exchange with some good support in price.
1138  Economy / Economics / Re: Is trading just educated guessing? on: August 01, 2017, 01:25:49 PM
I disagree that it's just educational guess. Trading can only be done with the help of some news, precise data from insiders and your own logics. These all will form the basis of a good trade on any circumstance. I'm sure guessing will end up with chaos and loss of money. So don't even try it.
I agree but there is missing the information and ypur own research and not just basing on the insiders or any news out there .News are not all reliable sometimes it will make your money lose although its not guessing but it is believing in wrong belief .
1139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Rex- A Peer To Peer | REAL Estate PLATFORM | on: July 28, 2017, 03:28:56 AM
why open a new thread . make think that is new project
Because the Main Ann thread has been locked and creating a new thread is necessary .
1140  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin Volatility Be Controlled? on: July 25, 2017, 06:01:40 AM
you cannot control bitcoin market and you cannot control everyone else mind. will they pump or will they dump? that is why you cannot control bitcoin volatility. it is very different in fiat where government will just release federal reserves if fiat is getting too weak.
Yeah , Futhermore they use media to make a fake news or a speculations for bitcoins price which affects a lot to the market .They can't control the volatility ,they only take advantage on social media to promote news .The price based on the investors who spend in bitcoins .
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