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1521  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: December 16, 2016, 08:57:02 AM
Does anyone have any idea how many people are using gold as a store of value vs btc?  And how long do you think until we have the same user Base as holders of gold?
I will suggest both but separately according to as what amount of money you want to invest in it .
If you are looking to invest small amount of money , about $500-1000 then You should go for Bitcoin but if you want to go for above $1k investment then gold will be better idea .
i dont take holding gold will be profitable since gold is stable , personally i will never use and hold gold , you can make alot of profit with bitcoin since its unstable unlike gold.
1522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 16, 2016, 08:31:54 AM
I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?
Nope gambling is more than risky than investment , investment you can't even control your money while in gambling you can freely control your money whenever you want. And you can simply just doubled or trippled your money in just 30 minutes nor 15 minutes investment website are scam.
but you can even lose your bitcoin in just a few minutes or hours on gambling. investing takes alot of time and patience , the site you investing can run   anytime away with your btc unless your investing on a ponzi
1523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what position size for martingale? on: December 16, 2016, 08:01:21 AM
Everything is possible with long Martini session. Not only bet size matters, but also - according to Deep Math - amount of "rolls" (vide CPC). Usualy I use even as low bet as 0.01% of bankroll. IMO Martini is bad choice for long run, like all other progression-based systems by the way.
this would not work unless you have a huge amount of bankroll like 100. and your right martingale is bad choice at long round because the site always win on long term martingale. there are alot of strategies out there why would you stick on martingale
1524  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to Trade? on: December 16, 2016, 04:23:51 AM
You can start to trade with as little as 10k satoshi but i advise you to start 100k satoshi for you to earn more but be careful when trading you can loose money in just a time
10k sat nor 100k sat is not recommended if you start trading i advice to start with 10M sat or 50M which is the recommend amount of most people to trade bitcoins but i recommend to convert it to altcoin and trade in altcoin instead
1525  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: December 15, 2016, 12:46:59 PM
Gambling is poverty, illness, cancer, crime, time-consuming in my mind. I know gambling is bad but i can not stop getting addicted to it. It have stolen many bitcoins from me but I always think that i can win back those amount Sad poor me
gambling is not a cancer nor crime its a crime if your below 18. it depends for you if you see gambling is bad but there are people make it as hobby and some others make profit in gambling. gambling doesnt steal your bitcoin it just because you lose but one day you might regain what you lose in gambling
1526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: December 15, 2016, 12:04:02 PM
The purpose of gambling is to have fun. I am not considreing it an investment. Investment actually can make you a profit and thats definitely not gambling.
they are people who play gambling for profits and some of them just wanna have fun. i agree with you gambling is not an investment. Investment comes with a risk so its gambling also.
1527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: December 15, 2016, 10:52:30 AM
Not really, because slots i can't control the payouts, nor are most of the slot games on offer by softwiss or betsoft provably fair. They have also refused to pay out a few jackpots recently to add to their illegitimacy. They also usually have a higher house edge.

I would rather lose my money on dice, fair and square, instead of chasing a jackpot at the slot machine.
there are alot of gambling site that has slots and using provably fair like bitvest. slots are just like dice its based on luck but there is a super slim chance you can win on slots and with its jackpot. but i agree with you i wanna lose on dice instead on slots because its so hard to win on slots and you have more chances on dices.
1528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I have a huge gambling problem, any advice on overcoming? on: December 14, 2016, 01:18:49 PM
It's rediculous loosing tone of bitcoin in gambling with single night it doesn't make any sense your just wasting your money instead of saving it to your future why not be contented on what you get? and just save it into your bank account just think of your family how if you gave them some of your money then you helped them with their financial problems.
and he didnt also used his money to make it as a site bankroll instead i think he can make alot of btc with that btc. even OP didnt decide to stop at 1k loss OP must have serious gambling problems he cant even self control.
1529  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: December 14, 2016, 12:56:43 PM
my strategy in dice is 5x payout increase on 5% loss/win then stop automatic bet once i get enough profit but i dont use this strategy anymore i only do manual bets now and you dont need strategy on gambling

My gambling strategy is once am win i stop gambling that is my best strategy.  But i have no luck i always lose so if have a good strategy in gambling but if you have no luck maybe what ever you you do you never win in gambling.
i dont think that is strategy its called self control yeah your decision is good and your not being greedy , wait for your luck to come in gambling.
1530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: December 14, 2016, 12:21:19 PM
Yes I can control myself when it comes to gambling and I never chase after losses like a lot of gamblers do and this only get's them more in trouble most of the time.I set myself a limit each week and stick to it, yes sometimes it can be hard but you just need to be discipline and control your emotions and not get caught up in it all. So set yourself a limit and stick to it, never chase a loss. 
we are same i can control myself , sometimes i can control it , i always chase my losses until i ended up being profit , i always gamble when i have btc on my wallet , i have also have a limit when im losing alot then i stop betting and bet tomorrow until i regain my loss
1531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 14, 2016, 11:46:45 AM
My dumbest mistake was thinking that I needed to get a $2000 profit rather than just cashing out at a $1800 profit. Roll Eyes
that's what you get for not being satisfied. this happen to me also from 150k sat to 900k sat and i want to reach 1M at that time then starting betting again then poof i lose all.
1532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 14, 2016, 11:19:53 AM
I think the tips or tricks to gamble is we should be able to control the emotions and passions because although we have a trick if you can not control the appetite useless, bitcoin will disappear quickly
It don't need tricks or anything in gambling even your good in controling your emotion you need to find out when to bet and when to cashout when you already doubled you bank roll then know to cashout your initial deposit if you really want to continue betting.
but there are people who cant control their greed in gambling like people who already doubled their btc and still continue betting , they lost all of their btc and you dont need strategy or methods in gambling all you just need to do win and withdraw.
1533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control emotion when you are on crucial part of gambling? on: December 14, 2016, 11:00:49 AM
Hello, i have some problem when i play dice game and i'm on betting higher amount to cover my losses, this is always the part where i'm always feel excited and nervous whenever i click roll. My heart is always beating fast and always resulting to out of control to my betting. I just want to know on how you manage on betting without feeling nervous.
You can avoid this by being put in your mind that you wouldnt mind losing or like you dont care losing this happen to me also especially when i was new to gambling and also dont be scared putting higher bets you can lose alot but you can also earn alot
1534  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best trading places on: December 12, 2016, 12:14:46 PM
I trade altcoin on bittrex, poloniex, and c-cex. But all of the time I trade in c-cex it is very user friendly.


I found these are good exchanges for trading altcoins. Each exchange has a big volume altcoin you can trade.

I have an account on those 3 exchanges too. But I use Bittrex and poloniex the most. Those exchanges have a large volume and if you are into altcoins which good volume, because it is more likely they pump it, you need to be there. Remember they also exist for quite some time so it is likely they are here for the long term and will not do a runner, like we have seen with so many other exchanges.
Yeah Bittrex And poloniex is the best place for trading and they are trusted trading sites ever , there are alot of people using these two sites which your placed trades can be bought in a short amount of time
1535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: December 12, 2016, 10:12:12 AM
Trading and gambling cannot be same at the same time can give same results if we are not lucky.
You mean to say in trading also we must require luck to make profits ?
But this is not the case all the times because trading is not just based on luck factor. Maybe luck will multiply your profits but your skills will be more than enough to make some profits from trading. But in gambling you always need luck to have either small profits or big profits. No luck then no profits in gambling.

No way, in trading, definitely we need luck, that's why many people consider trading and gambling both are same. But i accept one thing that everyone have a different experience gain, So behind the experience, we have different thinking. But if i am talking about only luck, So i can't deny that without luck anything possible.   
i disagree with you dont need luck in trading you just only need some skills and knowledge in trading but luck can be apply with trading , gambling too. in gambling you just only need luck except if your betting on sports,esports
1536  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETTING SITES TO AVOID on: December 12, 2016, 08:59:19 AM
Let say bitstarz, they are not making some payment to anyone who hit big and then still many people are playing on their site too, more over they are making more promotions though. So what I mean here although we avoid that particular site doesnt mean that other people not playing it
Bitstarz ? Recently I have received a mail from them stating I got some free rolls for their slots games. But I need to activate some games which are eligible with those free rolls. I was in plan to contact their support for this purpose. But now decided not to do, just a waste of time.
dont bet on bitstarz that site is a scam a guy here in bitcointalk won like 12 btc i think and bitstarz didnt even send them the btc and he is not only the one get scammed there also a guy got scammed for 1 btc and they didnt even break any TOS in their site
1537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling vs Betting on: December 12, 2016, 04:25:33 AM
Gambling vs Betting? It is confusing you know, betting is also gambling because in gambling you bet for you to win or lose. I just don't get what you are trying to point out in this post of yours. I think you mean, Gambling vs Betting on sports like prediction stuffs like that, is that it? but still it is also gambling as long as money is involve in return to earn money.
Actually I believe this is the topic for discussing about sports betting versus rest of gambling. Because I do see many people are not agreeing that sports betting is a type of gambling and they are almost treating the sports betting equivalent to trading. So, we just need a discussion to conclude the differences.
Yes actually I also think that games based gambling like sports, skill based based games and multiplayer games are known as gambling.

While pure luck based quick games where you neither can apply skill nor experience is known as betting. For me I love gambling but betting is my option when there is not many sports streaming on television.

The gambling means instant money doubler. And betting means you have to wait for some time to double your money. Both will need investment, but the playing process changes that's it. And I sports betting is depend on your skills but the gambling games depend on luck. End of the day both will give the same result it's loss.
your wrong gambling is not instant money doubler and you're risking your money to lose and for betting gambling is not a hyip that you would wait to get scammed. You dont need investment on gambling you just need a bankroll
1538  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: December 12, 2016, 04:19:16 AM
In the back of my mind, I want to be rich but not because of gambling. But when I gamble, I still always want to win. So when you always win, you become more rich and more risk will be involved. Anyway, if I would earn a winning bet that would have a lot of profit from, I would withdraw the initial bet or the bitcoins I deposited to get it back, then still gamble.

If you would have a winning bet that would give you a lot of profit, what would you do with it?
If you won alot of your winning bet i would recommend to withdraw because you might lose alot and then POOF profit gone.

If i would win that gives me alot of profit i would withdraw my winning and i will buy video games , i will start trading to increase my btc
1539  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many money did you spent in gambling in a day? on: December 11, 2016, 11:16:58 AM
i dont not gamble every day but everytime i gamble i usually deposit 5 mbtc and sometimes i deposit 4 - 3 mbtc because i dont want to lose alot of money and i cant stop my gambling addiction but at the end of my gambling session i ended up being at profit like 1 mbtc profit or 2 mbtc
1540  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: December 11, 2016, 10:49:10 AM
If you wanna become a profitable sports handicapper, you need to STUDY teams. Learning a lot about individual teams and leagues, and staying up to date on team info and injuries can really help you find value. Bookies don't know everrything, so try to figure out where you can exploit a lack of knowledge, especially in obscure or lower-tier leagues.

I agree with the fact that analysis of teams and research on the past performances being important in sports betting. However I will point out something called match-fixing in this context and that fixed matches can end up in a disaster for many gamblers. Many bookies often promote the fixed matches so the gamblers lose their money - this is one thing that has ruined the sports in recent days.
there is a time even your gonna lose in fact not all of the time analysis works there is even a chance that the other team have some of their players increased the level or the team you betted on they have good players that have been got injured
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