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521  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American Marxism on: July 15, 2021, 11:08:07 AM
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.” ~ Ronald Reagan
522  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: July 15, 2021, 11:07:15 AM
523  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: July 15, 2021, 11:04:17 AM
symantecs
there is no health passport
there is no vaccine passport

Not being allowed to pass a port

more symantecs
oh and you can pass a port with a vaccine,
so your debate is now ended.

find something to talk about that is a reality right now
not iffy fantasy futures.. not misinformed history..

Stop spreading misinformation to the peeps  Cool.  On Monday, Macron amped up the pressure on citizens who are yet to get a COVID-19 vaccine by making vaccine passports mandatory to access “non-essential” services such as bars, restaurants, trains, shopping centers, and domestic flights. Irish government have followed suit last night by voting in similiar legislation for indoor dining which will then be gradually spread out to other activities using the graduted boiling frog approach.

Last week the UK government announced the NHS App would be ready to be used as a Covid-19 passport from May 17 when some international travel is allowed. The app will be used as a digital solution for people to prove their vaccination status, with non-digital solutions also being considered.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/irish-digital-covid-19-passport-should-apply-across-island-of-ireland-says-fine-gael-politician-40653249.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/ireland-adopts-covid-passport-allow-eu-uk-us-travel-july-19-2021-05-28/

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/all-details-on-eu-covid-19-passport-revealed-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

https://www.rt.com/news/528127-eu-covid-cert-travel-pandemic/

https://www.digitalhealth.net/2021/05/what-is-the-covid-19-passport-your-questions-answered/


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not iffy fantasy futures.. not misinformed history..

An old Soviet saying... “The future is known. It’s the past that keeps changing.”  Wink

524  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: July 14, 2021, 08:47:59 PM
symantecs
there is no health passport
there is no vaccine passport

your example of other countries "maybe" is proof that passport is not a thing
its a "maybe"
its just a idea/conversation. not a reality in the current world

maybe in 100 years your grandkids might finally break out from the ancestry flaw of low IQ
.. oops i said maybe, meaning its not a reality today. meaning today your family have low IQ

here is some common sense
requiring a swab test just to buy groceries.. will never be a thing
no one would go to a bar if it required sticking a stick up their nose just to buy a pint
so relax..

if you really have this much tension built up inside you. its a waste. so go to the bathroom and relieve yourself
let it out. clear the waste out from inside you. and get on with your life.

in short (explaining metaphor to idiots)
your concerns of passports are making you act constipated (full of crap)

for all 19 months of covid.. you have been able to go to the grocery stores. and you always will
so get out your house and go to a grocery store

health passport covers vaccinnation or whatever the authority wants to put in place there in the "health category". while vaccine passport only covers vaccines.

get it now? get your vocabulary straight before explaining because your asshole and your mouth are interchanged. while i still need to go to bathroom to get the crap out, compared to you, you just open your mouth and the crap naturally comes out  Grin 



Not being allowed to pass a port without being vaccinated for ze coVid means there is a vaccine passport by default. The plandemic's goal was to enable the vaccine regime including certificate of vaccination ID using coVid plandemic as the pretext. Ignore the collaborators and those in denial.They are either liars or ignorant.


525  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government document instructs vaccine “strike force” teams how to... on: July 14, 2021, 08:41:14 PM
....meanwhile in France and Ireland "papers please" Cool




Vaccine and lockdown regime collaborators are responsible for the loss of your liberty and give power to tyrants. Blue lodge macaroni would have faced ze guillotine back in the good old days  Grin












 “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”

~President Ronald Reagan
 Wink
526  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: July 14, 2021, 08:36:39 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVU2KFEjrm0  "You dont have a say, you don't get to ignore what's going on here...




Sounds like a commie to me. All commies need war declared on their asses ..just ask the man Cool



^^^ ze man

527  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American Marxism on: July 14, 2021, 08:32:31 PM


528  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government document instructs vaccine “strike force” teams how to... on: July 13, 2021, 09:28:00 AM
529  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: July 13, 2021, 09:22:38 AM
C.O.V.I.D = digital certificate of vaccination and identification to be morphed into a global digital ID that will include your wallet. I said this since ze beginning and it will be so at the end. Thank you for playing.

#scamdemic #plandemic

This topic might catch your interest then:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5320443

I created it a while ago and I am quite surprised that nobody (nobody but timelord) posted in it. Nobody said that id2020 is a conspiracy theory, nobody said that id2020 is a fake website. Nobody asked "Why would a blockchain company, a vaccine alliance and microsoft and rockefellers form an alliance and have a big interest in vaccines?"

Nothing.

Yes the end game is legal ownership of the sheople and all the earth protected by legislation and enforced by absolute power and authority. I have reviewed ze thread and have merited your work accordingly Cool
530  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: July 12, 2021, 11:10:52 PM
C.O.V.I.D = digital certificate of vaccination and identification to be morphed into a global digital ID that will include your wallet. I said this since ze beginning and it will be so at the end. Thank you for playing.

#scamdemic #plandemic
531  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Government document instructs vaccine “strike force” teams how to... on: July 12, 2021, 09:05:29 PM
 Knock knock Grin

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The story they ended up with is set in 2024. The world has been ravaged by the latest and deadliest strain of coronavirus, Covid-23, and the government’s system to stop the spread is a lot simpler than anything involving tiers and scotch eggs. Every morning at 9am, you use a mobile phone app to scan yourself for the virus. If you test positive, hazmat-suited goons from the sanitation department break down your door, throw you into a van, and drive you to be quarantined in a high-walled shanty town.





532  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The TRUTH About ASIAN Discrimination & "Stop Asian Hate" on: July 12, 2021, 08:58:18 PM
533  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American Marxism on: July 12, 2021, 08:45:45 PM
Global marxism=Global plutocrats rule with absolute authority over your way of life and future. The rules and regulations will not affect them...just you #stakeholdercapitalism #plutocracy... Smiley not just murica Cool



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https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-03-24/when-will-covid-end-we-must-start-planning-for-a-permanent-pandemic

We Must Start Planning For a Permanent Pandemic

With coronavirus mutations pitted against vaccinations in a global arms race, we may never go back to normal.

For the past year, an assumption — sometimes explicit, often tacit — has informed almost all our thinking about the pandemic: At some point, it will be over, and then we’ll go “back to normal.”

This premise is almost certainly wrong. SARS-CoV-2, protean and elusive as it is, may become our permanent enemy, like the flu but worse. And even if it peters out eventually, our lives and routines will by then have changed irreversibly. Going “back” won’t be an option; the only way is forward. But to what exactly?

Most epidemics disappear once populations achieve herd immunity and the pathogen has too few vulnerable bodies available as hosts for its self-propagation. This herd protection comes about through the combination of natural immunity in people who’ve recovered from infection and vaccination of the remaining population.

In the case of SARS-CoV-2, however, recent developments suggest that we may never achieve herd immunity. Even the U.S., which leads most other countries in vaccinations and already had large outbreaks, won’t get there. That’s the upshot of an analysis by Christopher Murray at the University of Washington and Peter Piot at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.

The main reason is the ongoing emergence of new variants that behave almost like new viruses. A clinical vaccine trial in South Africa showed that people in the placebo group who had previously been infected with one strain had no immunity against its mutated descendant and became reinfected. There are similar reports from parts of Brazil that had massive outbreaks and subsequently suffered renewed epidemics.

That leaves only vaccination as a path toward lasting herd immunity. And admittedly, some of the shots available today are still somewhat effective against some of the new variants. But over time they will become powerless against the coming mutations.

Of course, vaccine makers are already feverishly working on making new jabs. In particular, inoculations based on the revolutionary mRNA technology I’ve previously described can be updated faster than any vaccine in history. But the serum still needs to be made, shipped, distributed and jabbed.

And that process can’t happen fast enough, nor cover the planet widely enough. Yes, some of us may win a regional round or two against the virus, by vaccinating one particular population — as Israel has done, for instance. But evolution doesn’t care where it does its work, and the virus replicates wherever it finds warm and unvaccinated bodies with cells that let it reproduce its RNA. As it copies itself, it makes occasional coding mistakes. And some of those chance errors turn into yet more mutations.

These viral avatars are popping up wherever there’s a lot of transmission going on and somebody bothers to look closely. A British, a South African and at least one Brazilian strain have already become notorious, but I’ve also seen reports of viral cousins and nephews showing up in California, Oregon and elsewhere. If we were to sequence samples in more places, we’d probably find even more relatives.

We should therefore assume that the virus is already mutating fast in the many poor countries that have so far received no jabs at all, even if their youthful populations keep mortality manageable and thus mask the severity of local outbreaks. Last month, Antonio Guterres, the Secretary General of the United Nations, reminded the world that 75% of all shots had been administered in just 10 countries, while 130 others hadn’t primed a single syringe.

A pathogen’s evolution is neither surprising nor automatically worrisome. One frequent pattern is that bugs over time become more contagious but less virulent. After all, not killing your host too efficiently confers an advantage in natural selection. If SARS-CoV-2 goes this route, it’ll eventually become just another common cold.

But that’s not what it’s been doing recently. The variants we know of have become more infectious, but no less lethal. From an epidemiological point of view, that’s the worst news.

Consider two alternative evolutionary paths. In one, a virus becomes more severe but not more transmissible. It will cause more disease and death, but the growth is linear. In the other path, a mutating virus becomes neither more nor less virulent but more contagious. It will cause increases in disease and death that are exponential rather than linear. Adam Kucharski at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine explains the math here.

If this is the evolutionary trajectory of SARS-CoV-2, we’re in for seemingly endless cycles of outbreaks and remissions, social restrictions and relaxations, lockdowns and reopenings. At least in rich countries, we will probably get vaccinated a couple of times a year, against the latest variant in circulation, but never fast or comprehensively enough to achieve herd immunity.


I’m not arguing for defeatism here. In the grand sweep of history, Covid-19 is still a relatively mild pandemic. Smallpox killed nine out of 10 Native Americans after the Spanish brought it to the Americas in the 16th century. The Black Death carried off about half of the Mediterranean population when it first came to Europe in the sixth century. Worldwide, the coronavirus has killed fewer than four in 10,000 so far. And with our science and technology, we’re armed as our ancestors never were.

But we must also be realistic. Resilience demands that we include this new scenario into our planning. The good news is that we keep getting better at responding. In each lockdown, for example, we damage the economy less than in the previous one. And we may achieve scientific breakthroughs that will eventually make life better. Our Brave New World needn’t be dystopian. But it won’t look anything like the old world.


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https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/radical-green-overhaul-to-avoid-climate-lockdown-by-mariana-mazzucato-2020-09



Avoiding a Climate Lockdown
Sep 22, 2020
Mariana Mazzucato

The world is approaching a tipping point on climate change, when protecting the future of civilization will require dramatic interventions. Avoiding this scenario will require a green economic transformation – and thus a radical overhaul of corporate governance, finance, policy, and energy systems.

LONDON – As COVID-19 spread earlier this year, governments introduced lockdowns in order to prevent a public-health emergency from spinning out of control. In the near future, the world may need to resort to lockdowns again – this time to tackle a climate emergency.

Shifting Arctic ice, raging wildfires in western US states and elsewhere, and methane leaks in the North Sea are all warning signs that we are approaching a tipping point on climate change, when protecting the future of civilization will require dramatic interventions.Under a “climate lockdown,” governments would limit private-vehicle use, ban consumption of red meat, and impose extreme energy-saving measures, while fossil-fuel companies would have to stop drilling. To avoid such a scenario, we must overhaul our economic structures and do capitalism differently.Many think of the climate crisis as distinct from the health and economic crises caused by the pandemic. But the three crises – and their solutions – are interconnected.COVID-19 is itself a consequence of environmental degradation: one recent study dubbed it “the disease of the Anthropocene.” Moreover, climate change will exacerbate the social and economic problems highlighted by the pandemic. These include governments’ diminishing capacity to address public-health crises, the private sector’s limited ability to withstand sustained economic disruption, and pervasive social inequality. These shortcomings reflect the distorted values underlying our priorities. For example, we demand the most from “essential workers” (including nurses, supermarket workers, and delivery drivers) while paying them the least. Without fundamental change, climate change will worsen such problems.

The climate crisis is also a public-health crisis. Global warming will cause drinking water to degrade and enable pollution-linked respiratory diseases to thrive. According to some projections, 3.5 billion people globally will live in unbearable heat by 2070.Addressing this triple crisis requires reorienting corporate governance, finance, policy, and energy systems toward a green economic transformation. To achieve this, three obstacles must be removed: business that is shareholder-driven instead of stakeholder-driven, finance that is used in inadequate and inappropriate ways, and government that is based on outdated economic thinking and faulty assumptions.Corporate governance must now reflect stakeholders’ needs instead of shareholders’ whims. Building an inclusive, sustainable economy depends on productive cooperation among the public and private sectors and civil society. This means firms need to listen to trade unions and workers’ collectives, community groups, consumer advocates, and others.Likewise, government assistance to business must be less about subsidies, guarantees, and bailouts, and more about building partnerships. This means attaching strict conditions to any corporate bailouts to ensure that taxpayer money is put to productive use and generates long-term public value, not short-term private profits.In the current crisis, for example, the French government conditioned its bailouts for Renault and Air France-KLM on emission-reduction commitments. France, Belgium, Denmark, and Poland denied state aid to any company domiciled in a European Union-designated tax haven, and barred large recipients from paying dividends or buying back their own shares until 2021. Likewise, US corporations receiving government loans through the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act were prohibited from using the funds for share buybacks.These conditions are a start, but are not ambitious enough, either from a climate perspective or in economic terms. The magnitude of government assistance packages does not match firms’ requirements, and the conditions are not always legally binding: for example, the Air France emissions policy applies only to short domestic flights. Far more is needed to achieve a green and sustainable recovery. For example, governments might use the tax code to discourage firms from using certain materials. They might also introduce job guarantees at company or national level so that human capital is not wasted or eroded. This would help the youngest and oldest workers, who have disproportionately suffered job losses owing to the pandemic, and reduce the likely economic shocks in disadvantaged regions already suffering industrial decline. Finance needs fixing, too. During the 2008 global financial crisis, governments flooded markets with liquidity. But, because they did not direct it toward good investment opportunities, much of that funding ended up back in a financial sector unfit for purpose.The current crisis presents an opportunity to harness finance in productive ways to drive long-term growth. Patient long-term finance is key, because a 3-5-year investment cycle doesn’t match the long lifespan of a wind turbine (more than 25 years), or encourage the innovation needed in e-mobility, natural capital development (such as rewilding programs), and green infrastructure.Some governments have already launched sustainable growth initiatives. New Zealand has developed a budget based on “wellbeing” metrics, rather than GDP, to align public spending with broader objectives, while Scotland has established the mission-oriented Scottish National Investment Bank.Along with steering finance toward a green transition, we need to hold the financial sector accountable for its often-destructive environmental impact. The Dutch central bank estimates that Dutch financial institutions’ biodiversity footprint represents a loss of over 58,000 square kilometers (22,394 square miles) of pristine nature – an area 1.4 times larger than the Netherlands.Because markets will not lead a green revolution on their own, government policy must steer them in that direction. This will require an entrepreneurial state that innovates, takes risks, and invests alongside the private sector. Policymakers should therefore redesign procurement contracts in order to move away from low-cost investments by incumbent suppliers, and create mechanisms that “crowd in” innovation from multiple actors to achieve public green goals. Governments should also take a portfolio approach to innovation and investment. In the United Kingdom and the United States, wider industrial policy continues to support the information-technology revolution. Similarly, the EU’s recently launched European Green Deal, Industrial Strategy, and Just Transition Mechanism are acting as the motor and compass for the €750 billion ($888 billion) “Next Generation EU” recovery fund.
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Finally, we need to reorient our energy system around renewable energy – the antidote to climate change and the key to making our economies energy-secure. We must therefore evict fossil-fuel interests and short-termism from business, finance, and politics. Financially powerful institutions such as banks and universities must divest from fossil-fuel companies. Until they do, a carbon-based economy will prevail.
The window for launching a climate revolution – and achieving an inclusive recovery from COVID-19 in the process – is rapidly closing. We need to move quickly if we want to transform the future of work, transit, and energy use, and make the concept of a “green good life” a reality for generations to come. One way or the other, radical change is inevitable; our task is to ensure that we achieve the change we want – while we still have the choice.




534  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Joe Biden is President of the United States of America on: July 11, 2021, 08:42:05 PM
535  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American Marxism on: July 11, 2021, 08:39:10 PM
.....not just murica.Same the world over Cool

536  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: July 11, 2021, 08:22:46 PM
537  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Pun & Fun Thread on: July 08, 2021, 09:22:20 PM
Nothing to see here Cool


538  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: July 08, 2021, 09:13:39 PM
I am skeptical that this will be the last we hear of lockdowns, rest assured that Covid alarmists will demand more restrictions despite a working vaccine.

Bot Bot but but the bed wetters,bots and profiteers need ze lockdowns "to protect yall from ze covid"  Grin





.....and this poor little snowflake completely oblivious and aloof to her brother's vaccine 's failure to protect him from ze covid Grin

539  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: July 08, 2021, 09:05:03 PM
Virus this..virus that.. You are not sterile, you are not meant to be sterile. Just look how disgusting those things you defecate.

How many farts in the subway, have you inhaled? LOL

Sir if I had merit to spend I would spend it generously on such a well worded post. Kudos to you sir !
540  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: Corona on: July 08, 2021, 08:59:36 PM
Kurz gesagt: "Bio-Engineering" ergibt als Begriff IMHO eigentlich nur dann einen Sinn, wenn sich dies auf zielgerichtet funktionsverändernde Gentechnik an Lebewesen oder Viren bezieht.


Ja, es ist ein bio-engineered Virus nach dieser zufälligen betrunkenen Person und medizinische Technologien bis hin zu Tracking-und Tracing-Apps, Test-Kits, digitale Gesundheitspässe, Sensor-Technologien, Impfstoffe werden Teil eines gut geplanten zukünftigen Wirtschaftsmodells sein.

Ihre Meinung, nicht meine.
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