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1761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A meme coin called baby doge worth this risk? on: September 23, 2022, 10:01:45 PM
I can't mine ETH or any other coins right now but I do find a way that might look good but bad to many, I can mine a meme coin called Baby Doge, I can get 609,000,000 of this token per day but that's because the max supply of the project is enormous, what do you think about Baby Doge, some time back there are a lot of noise about this project, any believer here?
As long it could give out make some profits then it wouldnt be bad to have those kind of considerations on mining them.Its your miner then it would be totally depending on your decision whether you would proceed out
or not.IF you do find it beneficial or profitable then why not? We are all here for profit which is a casual thing to have which it would be understandable that we would really be seeking on something which could
give out those kind of chances.Meme coins or mining them arent really that requiring too big hashpower.Its up to you if you could bare up with the risk with those
resources on just mining babydoge.
1762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much money do you leave in crypto casino? on: September 23, 2022, 08:48:17 PM
The few times I have gambled on Crypto casinos I have had no problem on leaving my satoshis deposited until the next session, however, since during those occasions I was only gambling a few dollars I got from faucets then there was not much risk in terms of a possible financial blow against me.

If I had deeper pockets, I would definitely trust a casino of excellent reputation some hundreds of dollars, instead withdrawing immediately after the end of a session and knowing in advance I would be back to play very soon.


Whenever i do win big then i do consider on withdrawing it all and would just simply deposit back whenever i do decided to play once again but just like the rest of people been saying here that most of the time
you wont really be reaching out this state on which you do still have some balance to get or withdraw since majority of us would be ending up on losing thats why there's no chance for you to withdraw something. haha.
Overall it wont really be that wise on leaving money on any platform if you arent using it because we wont know if a certain platform would really be hacked or ran away the funds.
So its never been recommendable on doing so, its just common sense.
1763  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Need some advice on: September 23, 2022, 06:44:08 PM
I need some thoughts about this group I've joined a week a go. They are giving free signals for trading and I actually start earning since day 1. Are there really group like this? or Am I on the right trading group. We trade in Batex anf U-koala.
In my opinion joining a paid group with telegram signals is a waste of time and capital, even though there is a lot of information on social media and even youtube,
of course it's free, be a smart person and don't be easy to follow things like that, even though in telegram there are also many free signals.
If its free then it wouldn't be bad if you do really follow and learn something from it instead on fully following those signals without realizing on what are those positions been given.As long it wouldnt really be asking out
some amounts then it would be considered to be a good thing but of  course you are the only ones will really able to find it out.Paid groups is never been worth because they would really be just simply providing some
analysis which is really just pure guess and speculations which it isnt really that totally different on one that you are really tending to make.So its up to someones decision whether
you would be keep on doing which something  that makes you profits or would simply not able to do so.Its your choice and you do have that own self will.
1764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto Casino Stake.com sued for $400 million on: September 22, 2022, 11:51:21 PM
As a long time Stake user this makes me feel concerned, I'll be withdrawing all of my funds and going elsewhere!

Interesting to see that Twitch are going to be actively banning mention of these crypto casinos in future, so it looks like streaming services are starting to see danger in associating or allow advertisement of these highly risky gambling sites. It's actually surprising that there has not been more aggressive prosecution of them advertising on sites that are heavily visited by younger children. As always, it seems like the regulators are quite far behind in dealing with the problem effectively but this does not bode well for a positive outcome for Stake.com. It is shocking to see such a high number thrown around but they could probably pay for it with a long term profit share instead of having to sell up, we see the massive amounts they can spare on advertising already.
Come to think that Twitch isnt only the platform on which these companies would able to make advertisements which it would really be that normal that if they are prohibited or been banned or removed then they would really be allocating some budget for marketing in other platforms which they could really make still that exposure and appearance in overall market.Being banned or prohibited doesnt mean that it would be over for the business or would really make a huge toll for their revenue to be affected.This doesnt only talk about Stake but also other known sites as well on this market including in my signature.
1765  Economy / Economics / Re: Age as a factor depreciating some people of their dreams on: September 22, 2022, 10:52:42 PM


Another big detail is that not everyone may want to do something that would be profitable business ventures, maybe I want to wake up, drink some coffee, sleep, wake up again, eat dinner, watch netflix and sleep again? I mean why would that not be acceptable to the world? The world is so focused on making a rich life and unlocking all the possible things that could give you joy, that we sometimes forget to make joy out of what we already have. I personally focus on what I have, no matter how boring it may get, just because I already have them and enjoying them is easier than trying to get something much bigger "eventually".
When you do have the money specially having that passive then you could eventually make those things possible where you could just wake up on anytime you do want, play or make activities or dealing with other people
without minding about money that you could really spend because you do know that it could really sustain on whatever things that you do tend to do.This is why we do always aim on having that financial freedom
since you could really do all sorts of things despite on what age you do have.The younger the better but people does have different perspective in life which some might be that common
and some would really be coming the other way around.
1766  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: September 22, 2022, 09:51:42 PM
So those who are interested in it must give it a through read to understand the terms beforehand.

Exactly this, otherwise it will be pretty much like giving away your cash to a degen to bet.

Its pretty much a community based feature so give it a look on their community discord channel to check if there is actually a decent clan that actually would hear the other clan's member opinion on which slots / tables to play on instead of just giving it away to a random clan that would wager your money and probably lose it all the way
For Clan leader then it would really be just that standard that they would really be creating a channel which would really be joining up possible members.
Agreements and possible appointment on such position would be also discussed and other correlated things as well.They cant really just put up or approve some position
if they do saw a particular member wont really be that worth on having the authority on using up the pool.So decision making will really be that crucial on this.
1767  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading and financial planning. on: September 22, 2022, 08:52:31 PM
There is no substitute for trading as well as financial planning. A trader needs to be aware of these two things to make profit from trading. The risk of losing wealth in haphazard investments is definitely high. Moreover, no investment should be made depending on the temporary movement of the market. Due to the bearishness of the market, certain events will happen frequently, so a trader should not concentrate on that, he must remain steadfast in his destiny.
It's not easy, of course, to become a trader, like it or not, they need to keep learning and have a strong mentality,
In addition, risk is an integral part of investment.
the market will keep moving and that's why traders shouldn't concentrate on just one thing
No business that you work hard to make money could be considered easy, this one involves risk as well but all of them does which is getting fired. If you are working as an employee somewhere, then you need to be good at your job to earn a lot, but if you are a trader you are your own boss and could make money easily with this.

Like for example FED increasing rates was a known thing beforehand and it was clear that it would drop the price of bitcoin so it was an easy decision to short it, which made a lot of people a good amount of money. If you know what you are doing, it is not any harder work than being a good employee that earns a decent wage.
People should be realizing up these things because there's no such thing about easy money on whatever investment or business you are dealing with which means that it does really involved risk which can potentially
lose up money if you dont know on what you are doing or simply doesnt really being mindful on applying those knowledge on the first place.Its normal that you should really be having plans on what actions
should really be executed on the time you had encountered various conditions or situations specially when we are dealing with very unpredictable market then it would really be that a normal action
to be taking unless if you do have that gambler like mind which doesnt really care at all.
1768  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: September 21, 2022, 11:07:09 PM
Atleast they are creating something new for the community though instead of copying it from another site. Well Im good even if they copy a good feature from another site but this is a fresh new idea.

In fact, Rollbit has been pretty creative with their latest feature but most players just wouldnt give a bat. Players rather play their regular slots then leave most of the time rather than trying all those new features
Why some gamblers don’t want innovation? This update matters because you can see here how the site being serious to stay in the market and in order for Rollbit to stay on top they should innovate and that’s why this is a good one and Rollbit will benefit on this in long term. Gamblers might abuse this but I’m sure Rollbit is prepared for this, and necessary actions will take place so better for those gambler not to try any abuse or else their account will compromise.
Not that many people disliking the situation, but a few people like me do not see the benefits of it and think that we shouldn't have spent this much time on making this happen and instead we could have spent some of that development time on something more useful instead.

I am not saying that this is bad, innovation is innovation and we are trying something out and if it works out well then we are going to be fine, but if it doesn't end up being good or getting attention then we are going to end up with a bit of a situation where it was useless effort. So instead, we should have gone with the things that we have seen before and know it works very well.
It's understandable if some gamblers are not liking this feature since we have our own choice and way if we gamble. But even if this clan feature dont have that strong support from the players, it does mean it's already useless. Atleast they offer something new to us that we can try and it's an option if we're bored playing alone. Rollbit doesnt stop offering us a different experience to gamble, just shows how competitive they are.

I have been getting into casino games and sports betting a lot, and I have read everything about Rollbit and his clan, I still have many doubts, because each clan has a leader, right? What I like and what I think can be done is that a bet that is made is well supported by the entire clan if they know that it will be good, right? so it becomes a high level bet? It's like making a bet of 5usd but with the support of the clan they can take it to at least 100usd and if it wins it is distributed in the clan, that is what I have doubts if it can be done or not? I don't know if there are internal rules for the internal clan.

There's nothing been mentioned about amount that could be used. Basing up on the Clan terms and how it works stated on the site it is said;

The player of a Clan is able to control the current game being played and wager with the Clans balance. We recommend only setting the player role for trusted Clan members. At anytime, Clan owners and admins can change the current player.
https://rollbit.com/clans/public

Which means clan leader and moderator are the ones who do need to set on player which could make use of the clan balance.
1769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Don't keep connected your wallet to a Dapps for a long time. on: September 21, 2022, 09:59:12 PM
Afaik, connecting wallet doesn't give anyone access to your wallet, any transaction would have to go through you only, unless dapp was given 'approve all' permission.

This is something that a lot of people overlook when starting to accept connections to any Dapps. Once you've given the "approve all" permission, a normal disconnect won't do anything either, those Dapps can still continue to use your wallet as a true owner. There is only one solution in this situation, and that is to revoke all the permissions you previously granted them.
As @OcTradism mentioned above, there is only one way to keep our wallets from being hacked and that is to use a recovery tool: unrekt.
People would just simply ignore or dont mind about it if they do still see their assets are still intact into their wallet which they would really be having that kind of confidence
but on the time that they do get hacked or faced up the same situations then this is where they become serious when it comes to security which they should have at least
done it earlier, which they might able to save up their asses back there.Never ever forget on revoking those permissions that you had allowed it earlier.
When it comes to security then its better to be a bit paranoid when it comes to that.
1770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why going for 1.02 odds and below on: September 21, 2022, 08:59:59 PM
Sometimes it's fun betting on those sport games with that kind of odd, what I do is I bet a huge amount on the lower odd then put a smaller bet on the higher odd which will result to breakeven.
It's only fun if you win the bet but losing a bet that involves low odds is one of the worst when you've experienced several loses and parlays that came from big favorites.

That strategy you mentioned is somewhat similar to arbitrage it can also be done through live betting but when it comes to very low odds it's so difficult to break even since one of the two sides is usually juiced by the bookies so you're better off shopping for odds with a different bookie.
I know the feels specially on making up some Parlays and always going for ML.  Cheesy and then suddenly the last bet do make out some loss because of some upset which do really sucks.
It do feels like you do really like to punch the wall due to frustration but well thats how gambling works where games arent that 100% precise on between winners and lossers.
Having low odds doesnt automatically means that they would win that certain fight or game but to have that common sense if its the heavily favorite then
bookies would normally be setting out those kind of odds.Its business afterall and they cant really just give out huge odds if they do know that they could
really be putting themselves on disadvantage.
1771  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How can all (or most) cryptocurrencies rise and fall at the same time? on: September 21, 2022, 08:39:42 PM
It can be said that altcoins are still dependent on the movement of Bitcoin,
indeed not all altcoins are like that but basically there is nothing to worry about,
Besides that, the current condition seems to be affecting
We know that the movement of altcoins will be influenced by the movement of bitcoin and wherever bitcoin moves, altcoins will be behind it. But don't worry because, at this time, we are still allowed to buy potential altcoins that can increase later so that if we use this moment to buy, we can hope to get big profits later. But still be careful because there will be news that will invite us to buy certain coins, and do not immediately follow the news but look for other information so that the news does not deceive us.
Doing some proper research will help them to save the hassle later and I think it's more riskier to invest on altcoins than on Bitcoin. For some reason Bitcoin has a cycle when it's time to bull run or bear we will know but somehow there are no signs or pattern that would save us if a certain altcoin would pump or dump but it's certain that they would dump eventually. That's why I think it's riskier to invest on altcoins but because of their unexpected movement somehow most of these coins wouldn't follow the lead of Bitcoin despite of the market situation.
If you are someone doesnt love on taking risk then it would be better on sticking on investing on Bitcoin which it might not really be that giving out assurance but you know that the potential is really there.
Speaking about trend then it would really be that expected that Bitcoin would be the main trend setting because if this one do runs on a bearish state then expect that majority of altcoins will really be following.
Although, there might be some coins which could really go on opposite direction, thats why its really that totally unpredictable as we do all know.Making up some research is always been recommendable.
You cant really just make out some buying entry points on random manner because thats just basically gambling on the first place.
1772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: September 20, 2022, 11:48:43 PM
When you bet on Butler to win, you are most likely going to throw away your money. Though I can see, some are starting to get interested in ML for Paul Butler. Well, if you've got money to burn, take the risk, upsets are always there anyway. Who knows.

For Paul Butler fans, they won't think that they are wasting money betting on him as they want to show support for the boxer.

True, there are supporters that are willing to make huge bet, regardless of what the odds are for this boxer. And in this case, it will not be a waste of money, because Butler is a huge underdog and if he wins, then his fans who bet on him will also win big.
That's the price you will get if a huge underdog will win, you are like winning a jackpot here.
Although I believe 90% believe that Inoue will win but it's not a guarantee that Inoue will win, remember that he is just a human, he can also make mistakes and Butler could take advantage on that.


That is a big question for now because no matter which angle we are trying to see, the odds are in favor of Inoue and almost none of here will even disagree for that fact. But yes, I agree with you guys, Inoue's victory is not guaranteed yet because they still have to fight, and we never know if Butler will be very lucky at the day of their fight. We will see soon what Butler will do in front of the monster.

Smart money will go to Inoue, those who are looking for a lottery win will go to Butler. So it's just a matter on how the bettors will look at it. If you want a long shot to win in order to have a windfall then Butler, but the odds are very slim. And if you are smart, then you just have to look at what other betting options for Inoue, or better yet, if you have thousands of dollars then ML might be good, and at least you can 'feel' some winnings if you bet huge on him.
When it comes to odds and according on to this site or article.
Naoya Inoue has opened as a massive -3300 favorite against Paul Butler.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/naoya-inoue-massive-favorite-against-paul-butler/

Considering if you on moneyline then expect that odds arent really giving that much huge win which is common sense.
Why would go for lottery bet on BUttler if you do see that chances are almost close to zero?  Grin
Well there are people who would really make that bet.
1773  Economy / Speculation / Re: Purchased at $23,500, when should I start to panic? When should I average down? on: September 20, 2022, 11:15:15 PM
I think I made a mistake buying at $23,500 (obviously), so when should I really start to panic now that we dropped to $18K?

At what price point now should I consider to add more to average in at? Like, if you owned a bitcoin at $23,500, would you wait for $10K or 15K to start adding more to average in your high price of $23,500?



Either you are new to this Crypto industry or really impatient dude.
I mean what’s the use of panicking? It’s normal Bitcoins to fall in it’s price. If you don’t know how the market works then better you should avoid money investments.
You are fearing and that too when you have BTC in your wallet. Just do a quick search on the internet about the marketcap of Bitcoins. That is enough to prove Bitcoin’s power my friend.
Just don’t panic always. Hold the coins for at least a month and then see the profits.
Obviously, OP is not really much aware about the high volatility of bitcoin. One day, you’ll see it’s moving up, the next day you’ll be surprised it’s now falling down. So never expect for bitcoin price to stay on top all the time. And I don’t think resorting into panicking will ever help you, it will only make you develop more fears and doubts on bitcoin. Instead, learn to be more patient and hold more, and in case bitcoin price drops more, just focus on buying so you can reap huge profits when bullish season comes.
Even if he was aware of the volatility of bitcoin it is completely different to read about something than to experience it, it is very easy to think that you will be able to deal with the volatility of bitcoin but it is when you actually have to see the value of your investment going down when doubts begin to surface, I hope the OP does not sell for a bad price as he has bought his bitcoin at a decent price and the only thing he needs to do to obtain some huge profits is to hold his coins for a few years.
When emotion do kicks in then this is something a really very hard to control even if you are really that aware on how this market behaves which we are just humans which it is normal to have these kind of reaction
whenever we do really experience these sudden declines.If you are on a situation which you had just recently bought and then the price dips even more then it would really create that kind of feeling which you
would really that panic.Asking out whether you would DCA or would just simply sell for cutting loss(which is a decision to make).Its better to hold no matter what because those negative numbers arent still realized
which means that you arent still losing money since it was never been sell which does simply imply that accumulation in much cheaper price is suggested.
1774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto Casino Stake.com sued for $400 million on: September 20, 2022, 09:51:36 PM
It could be a big amount but I don't think it will affect the entire operation, Stake has been here for how many years and I think that is long enough for them to save a million dollars for their revenue. If there is no other way to settle the case I think to continue their business they need to pay that amount. However, I did not see any sign that because this Stake will fall, that is still a very small amount for them, they are a big company right and that has a very popular name kin the online gambling industry and I think they need to come up with this problem.



The question is, would the jury agree that $400 million is a just settlement for the demands of the plaintiff? Before the money is awarded, of course there'd be a trial, and the court will review all the details and see whether or not the complaint can push through or they will drop it. From the looks of things, Stake has the upper hand on this legal battle however that is not up to me or the articles online to decide. Pretty sure Stake would not back down from this as their statement sounds somewhat confident that they have this case on their hands.

There's no way that the court will even think of granting that kind of amount, $400 Million for a settlement? That's absurd! I cannot even imagine that the plaintiff who is a former partner of Stake seriously thinks that the company will just give what he wants. But even before they get to that point, the court will likely dismiss the case because the plaintiff didn't provide serious and solid evidence.
The case is still in progress and we dont know on what are the evidences that Freeman might show off which might result into the success of asking such huge amount.He had just asked out
on what share he should have.We dont know on what are the real numbers in terms of revenues been made but he wont really be making out those huge chunks
if he do sees that the company isnt really making that big revenue.Dismissing directly? I dont think so.
1775  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Technical aspect in trading on: September 20, 2022, 08:41:56 PM
First of all it is quite riskier to invest large portion of money at the beginning and other thing is that your concentration and thoughts should be focused on your aim. In my opinion you have to buy that coin about which you have surety that it will pump and will give huge revenue. Spot trading is riskier and it become more riskier when you use large part of money for it.
This is one of the mistakes newbies normally make going live without having a sufficient understanding about the trading world. Trading is not meant to be immediately or too quick. We need to learn and acquire adequate information about trading before we ever think of going live again. The market is not friendly at all so we don't have  to make a dangerous mistake that could make us to lose big because of lack of trading skills and the right information.
Op need to go and learn a trading skill with demo account before going live again.
Most of the time which our first impressions towards trading is that it is really just a simple thing and not so that too technical and on the time they make out that real engagement then this is where
realization do happens and able to say that it wasnt easy to get involved with.Just like on what others been saying that its never been easy.It might be only dealing on predicting prices but on how you would
gonna do that? How you would consider out on whats the bottom? Whats the peak price? You would eventually find up relevant tools and indicators which would really be helping out
on determining those points and this is where technical aspect is really that much needed.
1776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to choose an online casino? on: September 20, 2022, 07:50:31 PM
I've been playing online casino slot machines for a while now, and I'm looking for advice on which ones are the best. I like to play the ones with lots of different payouts and bonuses, but sometimes the games take a long time to load. Do you have any suggestions for me?
I would like to suggest on whats placed or you could really see on my signature space which is Rollbit.com which you could really see lots of varities of games listed on the site plus having those decent bonuses and perks
which you could  really able to dive in.

If you are looking for some list then this thread would be that good to check out.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238786.0
1777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Too good to be true? on: September 19, 2022, 10:55:46 PM
Is it possible to invest 100$ in altcoin and turn to 7,000$? Have this ever happened to anyone on here? Is this even possible?.
very likely to happen, because altcoins have dropped -90% more than their ATH,
so if you are patient and buy at the Bottom price as it is now, then you can just reach 1000% profit when the bullrun arrives,
so the point is you have to be patient and analyze the coin properly before buying it
1000% is for low caps but cant really be that possible for those well established altcoins in the market which its value had already reach out multiple thousands fold comparing its value back in the past which means that your chance to get that kind of huge gain then it would really be talking on touching up small caps but eventually this kind of option is really something risk and shouldnt really be taken lightly considering on how
many shitty coins and projects in the market where you could possibly hit up then it would really be resulting into a loss which is something that we dont really like to happen.
If we do look back on few years back that there are people who do really make huge income or money out of these pumps but choosing on which project would be always the toughest challenge.
1778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Choices: Gamble or Help the poor ? on: September 19, 2022, 10:21:45 PM
In order to understand the psychology of gamblers, i have decided to come up few questions for discussions, and here is the first one.

Suppose that you are a responsible gambler who have allocated a certain portion of money to gamble each month. Now you came across a poor person/family who is in urgent need of money. Will you quit the gambling for that month and give the allocated money to the poor family or will you prefer to gamble as you can't live without gambling ?

This type of question is really something that couldnt really get precise answers yet each person or people would be different when it comes into this situation some might be ignoring that poor family and would continue
on the things that he should gonna do or simply would give up that month allocation budget for that particular family and donate and make a good deed.Each one of us does have that kind of concern basing up on our
own views and perspective in life.If you do really that put up much importance on your own leisure then you would just simply skip them and ignore but if you are a type of person who do shows up some concern
or have that humanity on you then you would definitely be giving those money and wont mind about the rest.Its up on someones choice.
1779  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Earning From Trading Without Any Professional Knowledge on: September 19, 2022, 09:51:21 PM
I do want to know if it's possible for a starter to gainfully earn from Crypto trading without having to go through a professional training.
It is not possible to earn from trading platform without any professional knowledge.But approximately you can profit from one trading Again if the market is dumping you will suffer enough losses and you will lose your mind from this cryptocurrency.Although benefiting from the trading platform without professional knowledge, it will be the same as your full gaming experience.
If you are a noob and just having that kind of consideration on making an act whenever the market dumps and you do tend to buy on that particular moment then it is really considered to be a knowledge.
Might not be considered as professional but these are just baby steps on moving forward because later on you would really be able to find on yourself on what are the things that you should really need to do
for at least making yourself sustainable within this market.It might not really be that an assured thing to result up on positive way but at least you are aware on what are the current happenings around.
Continue to deal and engage with the market even without having that  support from other people, you would eventually make yourself mold into a better one.
1780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why going for 1.02 odds and below on: September 17, 2022, 09:48:52 PM

What is your opinion?
Anything below 1.4x odds then i do simply skip out yet its never been worth imho.Even if its a clear winner type of game but i dont really tend to put any risk on making bets or going all in.
Yes, ive been seeing that 1.1 as the lowest and didnt see that 1.02 which is totally insane if Bookies having these kind of odds always and its true that surprisingly there are people who are
really that a fan with these odds and making those all in type of bets because they are 100% sure that a particular team or player would win the game.
Well,  you arent forced to play or make bets with these odds but on just with your own personal mind and awareness then its never been worth.

to be honest, it is not really worth placing your bet on those very low odds. unless, you have good amount of money to bet with. at least the possible profits is quite significant. you can see those odds if the bookies is thinking that athlete has very high chance of winning. but for small bettors, i don't think it is worth your time betting on such odds.
Even if i do have that big money then i couldnt really take up the risk.Betting up $1000 for 2% profit or gains? I wouldnt really be that on proper mind would be doing that. Cheesy
Just i have said that anything below 1.4 is never been a good bet to take on even how sure the player or team would be winning.There's always chance of upset and you would be fucking up
your huge bet if things turns out to be sour but well its our money then to those who could really able to take that huge risk on make low odd betting.
Its never been worth.Period.
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