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1101  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I am only trying to stay safe by gambling less on: May 01, 2023, 07:47:36 PM
One sentence in your comment that I really like is that gambling is totally about luck. If luck favors you will get profit and if luck doesn't favor you will face loss. But Bitcoin investment is completely different because if you save the digits by investing in Bitcoin, it will give you huge profits in the future but you may not face losses.
Yes, but many people want to completely abstain from gambling because if you become strongly addicted to it, you will never be able to get out of it. Many people become destitute due to this gambling addiction and many students are ruined from their main objective of education. So those who wish to take this gambling as a career must take the step carefully.
gambling as a career? it is a very risky decision! when gambling, we are 50:50 between victory and defeat, but if someone really believes that he has skills in gambling skills (poker, blackjack, chess, etc.) then there is nothing wrong with making gambling their career

but it must be remembered that depending on life on gambling is a step that people cannot do arbitrarily, there are many careful considerations that must be made
There is everything wrong in making gambling your career, I mean how can you live your life on the edge of luck. Gambling can never, I repeat never ever be someone career because you can never be certain of the outcome of your winning rather making gambling your career will just destroy your life because you can lose your whole funds to this act on days that you are unlucky.
LOL, stupidest thing or decision any gambler would ever make, decide or do is to make gambling a career, when there are lots of businesses one can do and be financially successful and independent..

If one love gambling so much that he or she wishes to turn it into a career, it is better for such person to start a gambling casino, which to me, I think is a really good and lucrative business anyone with good experience and gambling knowledge can venture into, you did be more comfortable running a casino than turning gambling into a career.
It might sound stupid but there are really that people who do really make out such decision or did really take this path on which they are really that making it as a career specially into those who do stay up
on poker or in other card games and to those who do silently getting involved with sports betting and trying out to sustain on day to day basis. Yes, making gambling as a career is really indeed that a
very dangerous act or plan to have because we know that gambling isnt something that you could really bare up with the risk or even able to sustain considering that odds of winning is really
that way too less specially when dealing up with luck based type of games which is something that understandable If you do go on gambling activity but you do have
that enough self control and treating it as an entertainment then i dont really see any problems with this.

Risks is really that high with gambling and if you arent that aware of that on early then better to make yourself aware asap. You would be busting and losing up that much in longer
runs and gambling is really just that for fun and not for making money specially on long term.
1102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: April 30, 2023, 11:52:02 PM
I bet they are just taking their chances to use the law to recover their losses since this kind of incident is really happening that hacker use someone bank account to purchase online or gamble.

I believe they have a family history of being a compulsive gambler because they can pretend that they really hacked if they don’t have history of gambling. KYC is not an issue since they loss the money and probably casino doesn’t asked them to do KYC since they didn’t manage to withdraw the funds. KYC typically applied when they already want to withdraw the funds. I think the prosecution evidence on this case are their family  background since a mother and son not typically joining together to gamble if they didn’t do this most of the time.

With this, they just waste money on fine or jail time instead of just accepting the losses.
So gambling addictions are like genes too that can be passed? Interesting but I think it does not come naturally. Maybe the parents gambles carelessly even if their children are around so there is a tendency that the kids will copy it and worse is the parents just allow their kids to gamble.

That's too irresponsible. KYC is not the real issue here but it's about being addicted. KYC or not, an addicted gambler won't care only to continue playing but there are casinos which mandate KYC during the start or when you are still signing up on them. Not only they lose money but they also lost their morals but I think they don't really care about the opinion of other people. What is only important for them is to recover their money.
Nothing good can be expected from an addicted gambler. Moreover, if a minor is addicted to gambling, it may be due to the carelessness of his parents. But only KYC cannot provide any solution in this regard. Because nowadays many people can complete KYC with their parents' documents. Here, in case of minor, father and mother should take adequate care. And if he is an adult then if he does not try to protect himself from that addiction then it is not possible to bring that gambler back to the right path by others.
Not all guardian or parents who would really be blamed if ever their children did really engage into something because we know that no matter how hard we do teach up those good deed or ways of living, it wont really be assure that it would really be applied or would be followed by your children.We do know that in todays world on which there are lots of distractions which it would really be leading out into those things which
we didnt even can believe that it did really happen.Thing here is that you've been here for them in case shit things happen. Speaking about blaming someone for your gambling losses then it is really a normal behavior of someone who do fall out into this kind of thing on which it would really be that normal that they would be having this kind of reaction because we cant really easily accept our mistakes but if things comes
worst then there's nothing you can do because no matter how hard you do point up your fingers, we arent that blind not to determine on whose the real at fault on this one.
1103  Economy / Speculation / Re: FTX recovered $7.3B in Assets and is considering restarting! on: April 30, 2023, 11:24:10 PM
Of course this is good news, this will have a better effect and the market will continue to move positively, let's wait to see if the other big case, namely LUNA, will be able to recover again, if LUNA can recover then the market will easily recover even past the previous ATH happening in 2021.
I don't really understand that!!!! Do you think that the current condition of market is only for the Luna and FTX incident ?!
Dude the current situation is not caused by them The market moves at its own flow. The market runs with these two seasons, bearish and bull, and each crisis comes after a certain time. Now it is on his bearish season and the next halving is not so far I think those recovery of the market will also depend on those.
Bitcoin does not rely on such news to make its market movement even though such negative news can affect the price at some point just like what happened around October -November 2022 when the FTX bankruptcy issue happened it affected the price of most coins the entire cryptocurrency market was negatively affected during that time and due to the news.

But now Bitcoin and other potential coins have built a new liquidity that put them in a recovery mode which resulted in what we are seeing in the market today, Bitcoin doesn't depend much on external factors to determine its Price movement most especially when the was previous long bear situation.
I won't gonna disagree with you on that point the FTX bankruptcy and The Luna incident have a potential effects on market but I think those are easily recovered by bitcoin in a short period. If I short my talks then I have to say that bitcoin price can be influenced by the news but it's for a short duration  and it also used by short-term traders. And for the long term trading we should think about those season and halving.
In overall it would really be just that independent when it comes into its movement because demand and recognition would be solely be still focused on Bitcoin. If ever it would really be having some dips due to some negative news or events in the market then it would be normal but sooner or later which those dumps and crashes would really be just easily get swallowed by those buyers who are really that eager on buying up on cheaper price which simply means about having that kind of support. This isnt applicable on some altcoins in the market and with that LUNA crash and FTX issue then it did really make out some significant impact
but look at on where we are now? We are playing around 30k as of this moment which is totally showing that we've recovered into that condition  on that below 20k price.
Starting up for FTX again after all the issues? For sure they wouldnt really be getting a single support for this one.
1104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can i make 100 $ daily from online casinos on: April 30, 2023, 10:54:26 PM
No method works 100% and winning is never a guarantee in casino games. But with little odds you can make $100 with $2k. But i will still ask why risk all $2k on a single stake when gambling is not a game of certainty. The worst loss is when you stake so much for little profit only to lose everything.I will rather prefer you split the amount into four equal halves then make stakes at different times on the same game.
As the community said and I previously had no other method to be consistent, I also don't think it would be possible to spend $2k to make a consistent profit of $100, most people lose more often than win consistently playing in casinos, but if they gamble to I think sports betting can get more profit, it's just that you need insight about that sport too, even though it's not consistent every day, but at least playing sports betting is better than playing gambling against gambling machines.

There have been many casinos that I have used in the end I just lost in many casino games and how many strategies did I use when playing still in fact it will never really work, so it's better if my advice is betting on sports betting to ensure fairness from cheating rather than gambling playing casino games.

Maybe yes, you have a better chance playing or gambling with sports betting. If you know well the sport, the chance
of getting a better analysis before placing your bet can help you to increase a chance of winning.

But still, there's no guarantee that you will keep winning as there's always a risk even in sports betting, some factors
that may influence the result of the game.

end of the day, still depends on your luck to win decently from any gambling activity.
For luck based - ❌
For strategic based - ✅

You would be able to get that $100 daily if you are really that good with sports betting or even in poker but would really be depending on your skills and knowledge on these certain type of games.
We know that when it comes to luck based then it would be heavily be purely that depending on luck unlike with those who are really that basing up with strategy then you could
really somewhat that having to have some feels that you could be able to achieve it out.

$100 would be hard but if you do have a huge capital and it is really just that a small percentage gain on your bankroll then you do see some lesser risk or margin
then it would really be achievable but of course nothing is guaranteed when it comes to this.
1105  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is there any point to start trading with 20$? on: April 30, 2023, 10:14:11 PM
Hello everyone,

I’ve lately been trying alot of different ways to start making money but something in me tells me trading could be really fun and exciting to get into. Unfortunately I can’t afford to invest much right now so I’ve managed to invest around 20$ to get started. I’d really appreciate if you all could let me know if what i am doing is worth it or am I just wasting time?

Kind regards,
Human
Its not actually a waste of time even using up that $20 for you to start up on trading which it is really that better which you would really be that having that kind of urge on making that capital grow at least.
Big or small kind of bankroll or capital wouldnt really be that totally different because the main thing on here is on how you would be making yourself that sustain and how you do handle up yourself in terms of risks.
You cant really just assure that the bigger the capital the higher of success you would be able to attain which it is really that impossible on this way. $20 should be sufficient but of course it would be having
its con's which you cant really be able to widespread up your position specially if you are really that making some SL's or would really be having that multiple position in small lots or amount.
Just do on what you do see that it would benefit out for long term. Learning process doesnt automatically been needing some huge funds basing up on what you do have in mind.
Sustainability would be always the main target for this.
1106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losses In Gambling That Still Haunts You Until This Day on: April 29, 2023, 07:13:16 PM
  • Date/year :
        2018
  • Amount or Figure :
        2-3 BTC
  • What Game :
        Crash Game on Bustabit

Whenever i do look back into these days then i could really say that i might really be that a millionaire basing up on our local currency if i had just able to hold off with these coins.
This doesnt talk about 2-3 BTC one bet but a several ones which i could say that it is really that totaling in the amount of 6 overall which we know that it is something
that an amount which is really that bigger.

I do remember on how i do make myself get greedy on that time. Back into those years where Busta is really that one of the main crash sites or main talks of that years.
These was the early years where crash games are really that having on peak of interest or popularity which lots of people been hanging out into  this place.
We do know on how crash game works and how fast you would be busting up your entire bankroll in a snap.
1107  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your money wisely - another lesson, Techie tries to suicide. on: April 28, 2023, 10:41:25 PM
This news is from the IT Hub of India, that is Kolkata. The Techie who is just 23 years old had invested a big amount of money in the Crypto space. The investment when asked him was around INR 30 lakh ~ $ 36,600 in US dollars. That is a definitely huge amount considering his age and country of residence. Even in America, 36K USD is pretty handsome money and you can do many things with it.

So the gravity of this can be sensed easily.

He was saved by the Cops after a local Cab driver alerted the police and the response team was at the incident quickly.

He was trying to jump from the largest bridge on the river named "Hooghly" to end his life.

The investment was not his alone but he collected the money from various sources. He took loans and also was using the pension from his mother. Definitely, he had no plans and no idea what he was doing.

Just save up your bitcoins in cold storage, only buy what you can afford to lose and most importantly don't fall for the traps of crypto space.
Bitcoin is the only savior in crypto and if you own the keys, you win the market.


Read the news here:Techie loses Rs 30 lakh in crypto market, tries to jump off  ..

You would really be definitely be ending up on this situation if you do put yourself into a very deep debt just because on what you have done. You cant just be that too confident when you do make out investment and be careless since we are talking a huge money on here specially if you do live on a country where these amounts are really indeed significant. The worst part is that these amounts or money accumulated do came from different person which means that you do added up more problem into one problem because they would really be hunting you down and telling and asking onto their funds which it would be a normal approach.
If ever these money or amounts been invested on Bitcoin itself or some top altcoins in the market then i wont really be seeing this as a huge problem.

I will keep this thread open for few more days. I think it’s for the hood lesson and also for those who are new in the crypto world. Mostly everyone is not thinking straight when investing in crypto. The new comers specially wants to be millionaire overnight so they would go and invest any amount they could and it could be from lenders money or family savings. Better yet, plan and execute your trades in the crypto all time.

I think most of the replies agree with the sentiment that’s made. Hope so this teaches everyone a good lesson.

Better lock it now, considering it is already that 4 page then its impossible that you arent been able to see or read up on what you do love to hear off.
In overall i  do agree that if you are that someone who doesnt really have much idea about investment then it wouldnt really be costing you too much
time on making up some research first before proceeding so that you would be able to avoid up these possibilities.
1108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: April 28, 2023, 08:52:00 PM
It bothers me the extent people would go to satisfy their gambling urge. It bothers me that people are in denial of their gambling addiction and instead of seeking help they are looking for who to pass the blame on to. There should be severe punishment for stupid people like this. They should have their own court where these cases would be judged. I know that out there are even more gambling addicts doing the worse
Good thing that they do able to spent out $8000 but if you do live on a 3rd world country and you do able to spend out that much money then you would really be suffering a long time payment
out of your day job if in case it would be able to be that amicable but we know that it isnt something that shouldnt really be tolerated. Its true that there are more other gambling addicts
did really able to done something much worst than this.

Lets put up some nasty rankings or list on here.

1. David Bradford Lost £500,000 in 30 Years
2. Michelle Singlehurst Gambled £550,000 in 3 Years
3. Sharon Who Stole from Her Daughter’s Piggy Bank
4. Viktor Gjonaj Who Faces 20 Years in Prison and $19m in Losses
5. Aaron Traynor Who Struggled with Addiction Since 13

.... and  so on.
https://www.gamblingnews.com/blog/gambling-addiction-stories/

It would really be that just so worst if you do really tolerate out that addiction of yours or simply you dont have
that good control towards yourself.
1109  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Being drunk while trading what was your experience on: April 27, 2023, 11:53:23 PM
Sorry to raise this topic over here, it was too heavy for me to answer all alone so I decided to share here to see some reasonable answer from those that have been in such situations. An hour ago, I went out with a friend of mine and it happens to be a drinking hall (beer parlor) where he got drunk and as well trading.
The question is, can you trade while you are already drunk?
Well... There are persons that can takes as many bottles of alcohol and no matter the quantity they take, it will have no effect on them. So if your friend is in that category then I see nothing wrong but if you mean that your friend was actually drunk then it's something to worry about and he might make costly mistake while trading because he's not in control of his senses.
Yes, people does have different tolerance when it comes to alcohol on which no matter how you do see on having lots of liquor had been drank out but still it doesnt make any effects
on someone you know and instead you have seen him on doing up those usual stuffs without having no problems. This is why its really impossible that you cant really be able to
notice out for yourself on whats happening into your body. In regarding actions then it would be no sense on making up some trades into a condition like this on which you cant
really be able to think up clearly if you are under influence of alcohol.

Drunk an still be trading is  one of the most crazy thing I have heard in recent times, how can you even do your technical analysis while your hands will be shaking an you will be feeling so dizzy, it will never ends well if such thing happens
You wouldnt be ending up that well. Your brain and the feeling of getting dizzy is the main thing you would really be able to felt.There's no sense on doing something like this
on the time or this condition which would really be that prone to lots of errors and mistakes because you cant think off clearly. This is why
its never been that recommendable on having this kind of perception on pushing up things despite of being drunk.
When you are under the influence of alcohol then you would definitely be having that kind of numb thinking on which you would really be that having no emotion which means that you would really be
that prone to errors and mistakes just because you cant think off that well when you are under the influence of alcohol. This is why its never been that recommendable that you should be trading when you are drunk.
You cant really be that engaging on trade without having that proper thinking because this isnt something that you could really just engage without thinking up the analysis you had made out or the thing that
you've been get used to. Its totally different when it comes to decision and action making on implying out your techniques and charting which is something that very crucial
when we are doing trading.You cant just neglect and be confident on trading up on this kind of condition.
1110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never Expect Consistent Winnings From Gambling - A Lesson I Learnt. on: April 27, 2023, 10:50:34 PM


Gambling is not a business, and neither should you ever take it as a day job, in reference to this thread - it is likely impossible to make a consistent winning from gambling, there are day you win, even much more than $100, and there are days you will lose it all, to make a consistent $100 or more every day in gambling is a mirage, wishful thinking that might never happen.

Feel free to chip in your contribution.

Honestly, it's very tempting to think that way I used to have that in the early stage of my gambling session,  winning consecutively and having a winning run you'll think that you find a method for consistent winning and you go on like this until you are busted.

Many newbies are like that 3 to 5 winning sessions will make any newbies thinks they have a lucky charm and when they are losing they think that the charm will give back their winnings, so they chase their losses.
They held on to their belief that quitters never win.
Very common for new gamblers or to those who are just recently dealing up with gambling on which they do really believe that they could really get rich because of it just because they have able to win up some few games and ending up on being profitable which we know that this isnt how the reality works. There's no way for us to retain that luck factor which is something that we cant really be able maintain until we do lost it all.
You would really be having that kind of impression on which you do believe that you do have all the luck on this world without even trying to look on whats the real deal on gambling. Consistent winning on gambling cant really be that impossible, if you do been able to experience some winnings streaks then it would be wise if you do keep em and save it up for other purpose. Dont chase up for further more winnings
because once the table would turn upside down then it would really be giving off the different outcome which you arent been expecting for it to happen and this is where disappointments do start
which would mold up next that desperation which it is something that we do need to avoid.
1111  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we now on Crypto bull run? on: April 27, 2023, 08:40:31 PM
Do you mean there will be a bull run and a new ATH this year? If that's the case, then we're going to break the old history and create a new one, as the bull market takes place only a year after the halving. I also agree with what @Pierre 2 said, the bull market is when we will see new trends, and many shitcoin projects will x5, x10 in the market. But what is happening in the market is almost exclusively focused on bitcoin, altcoins are almost insignificant.
What I meant here about the bull market, is actually from the technical point of view side, The bulls are now in control of the market, that's the movement that will take us to a new ATH, So not necessarily that Bitcoin will be making a new ATH this year, though it still a possibility we can make new ATH, However, you may call this a bear market rally or recovery for a clearer picture of what I'm trying to say, As we haven't created a new Highs.

I think it's because this term of "bull market" remains very subjective, and purely based on time-frames. Based on Daily time-frames, the market is a bull market. Based on Weekly/Monthly time-frames, this is a bear market relief rally. Even in 2019 when price increased by 4.5x from $3.2K to $14K, to me this was still a bear market relief rally, as price made a lower high below $20K, and fell back to the lows. For sure the 4.5x increase was a bull trend in the short-term, but it ultimately wasn't a bull market that led to a new ATH. Instead it eventually led to a higher low around $4K that effectively ended that bear market and led to a new ATH.

Yeah, it's a subjective term, I do agree, it could be the 4 year cycle, or as what you have described, based on timeframes. For us though, the definition is that the price will go on a massive spike, a massive growth like in 2017 or in 2021. So for now, I wouldn't say that we are really in a bull run, this maybe is just a recovery from what, from lowest low of $15,500 to $31k, so that's what we have seen. And now there is some correction to $21k'ish. I guess the bulls is exhausted from the runs in the first 3 months that it can't no longer sustain the rally for now.
4 year cycle is what most people been keep on eyeing on, on which they are already that anticipating that it would be happening on year 2024 or 2025 Q1 which is something that most people been
waiting for but there are ones who do wait for 2026 on which they do believe that this would really be the start of bull run.Honestly, there's no way that we could be able to point out
on whats the exact dates or moment on when golden bull run would kick in.This is why its really that important that now that we are still in accumulation phase then it would
be better to bag as much as you could specially into those coins who does have the potential.
Correct. Even though bitcoin has passed the price of $ 30k, that doesn't mean we are in a bullrun phase. Especially after bitcoin had passed the price above $ 30k, it didn't last long and then dropped again to the $ 27k area. Therefore the bullrun phase has not occurred until now.
Actually it's not that it hasn't happened yet, but it's more like it's not really worth saying now, because after looking at the Bitcoin market conditions in the past two days, the situation is still not much different from before because the price of Bitcoin is still increasing and correcting in the area of $27K to $30K. Now Bitcoin looks to be starting to pick up again and I think it will also be back towards $30K again this month.
Its just an ordinary day kind of increase and people should really get used to it specially to those who are new still into this market.It cant really be still called as a bull run with having
that kind of increase. We are really that liking to see something which those huge and long green candles that we've seen into those previous bull run market cycle into those previous years.
Now, lets assume out that everything would be happening in next Bitcoin halving event whether before but mostly it would be after.
1112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: April 27, 2023, 07:28:59 PM
He was being innovative and showing initiative in figuring out how to continue to gamble. Give the guy some credit lol.  Maybe the guys back was against the wall and he owed a lot of money to a loan shark? Something was not reported as to what made this guy go as far as he did and try to harm his own family.


This is true and could be possibly one of the reasons too because it would really be just that not believable that you would really go into a certain extent if you arent really that desperate enough or you would be seeing this as a last resort. For sure there would be questioning but that guy still decide to zip up his mouth on whats the real thing. Getting have some loans into those loan sharks and you dont able to get paid and now
you've been forced on repaying then you cant really be having an option but rather it would really be making out some ransoming thing  and the worst that its been involving who are closest to you.
Which means that you are really that having no options or no where to go, dont know on why he hadnt been done on other people.LOL but still in overall its a bad thing and this is the thing on where
addiction could lead you on, and this is why we should really be responsible whenever we do make ourselves get involved with gambling.Be wary and be sensible towards your actions.
1113  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving is Wasting? on: April 26, 2023, 11:44:12 PM
Being a student is so hard nowadays. I've been spending a lot for school requirements and different activities related to education. I'm stuck with this saying "SAVING IS WASTING", thinking that with the little amount of money I have, should I put it on an investment or should I just save it for my future expenses or emergencies. I'm also living in a country in which there are limited side hustles I could do to earn extra for investment, so I'm troubled somehow.
As you said that you consider little amount of your money, i suggest you to do not touch your education fund for investment while you must pay your education bill soon. you will be regret it if you lost your investment but you have to pay your education bill in hurry.
Always have that allocation on things which are important, you should really know on how to distinguish in both things or any other which are really that relevant when it comes to
your future plans and goals in life. Saving isnt wasting as long you do know on what are your priorities or simply does have the balance on something which you do really need. Its really that bad if you are really that neglecting out education budget allocation just because you are focusing into other side of things which you said that in the end you would be still needing funds when the time comes.
So better be prepared rather than on getting shocked.

Saving isnt wasting but it would be more worth if you do put it up on an investment to earn possible more income and make more savings but we arent that going in all in.
Always be mindful that there would really be things which you would be needing to allocate funds and save on it.
1114  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BINOBI.com|🚀BINOBI Affiliate Program is live|💸Earn with RevShare up to 50% on: April 26, 2023, 10:24:13 PM
the site seems great. but the interface has the feeling of being in the binance, maybe because of the theme colour.
anyway, is binobi working on their gambling license? seems everything is ready on this site. it is good that you will be offering free play also, this will attract new users to try your site.
with regard to kyc requirements, based from your registration terms, you may ask valid proof of identity when deem necessary. would be good if you are already licensed before you start asking from your players about kyc.
I do have that first impression too on which it does really look like Binance plus with those font and color scheme which you would really be having that kind of feeling that you've been dealing with Binance site.

Well, it isnt really that a bad idea considering on making use of that color scheme which is really common specially for those people who do make use of said platform and now its been used on a gambling site.
Overall design is great, having instant withdrawal then its always been good and as for KYC then it is really just the same among with those current existing ones.

The thing they should focus now is on to run some signature campaign to increase up some exposure about their existence because if they wouldnt really be serious into this
matter then it would be no shock if they wouldnt really be getting some users.


+ Showing those half breast exposure? Its always a plus and really looks that good in the eyes specially on male players but i do see that it is really just that too much or already that too inappropriate?
Well this is really just that my feeling.

Checking out some more things on FAQ
https://binobi.com/promo

Seems like that "What does the wager requirement mean?" link is broken on which i cant able to see on how much wagering requirement they do really need up
specially into that deposit bonus. Seems like its need to be fixed or @OP, whats the requirement or roll over before you could make a withdrawal?
1115  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Investment in bitcoin on: April 26, 2023, 09:05:38 PM
Investment in bitcoin can makes you developed reasoning on how to expand your income, most people who do holdings for a long period of time makes enough money at every running of bulls price and they begins to diversified their investment into different places. Some expands to mining, trading and physical business but when you eat you investment at every little price increase or drops you tends to remained statics, holding is a good option no matter the current price. Some people who became big bitcoin investors became it as a result of holdings.

Depends on how much you do hold but if you do pertain or trying out to compare into those Bitcoin OG's then the earning or possible profit you could really make isnt something that big compared into those holders.
There's no doubt that holding for a long time does really give out that kind of chance or benefit specially if you are holding Bitcoin or even into those top altcoins that we do have in the market. We know that
this market does have its own cycle and if you have placed yourself on the right time or simply in the bottom then you could definitely really be having the chance on making profits
but of course profit size will be basing on how much you've been holding which is understandable.


What's the point of this thread?
Title is totally different from the entire content. If you were to be wearing signature like I do I could have assumed you are just creating topics just to fill up your weekly signature post. If I'm to ask what's  exact information are you trying to pass to us. Most people already know how Bitcoin transaction works, miners down to the confirmation of blocks etc.

Edit: OP edited entire thread why I was typing my reply...
You know that there are people who do make out some initial post but actually make out some edit later on.This is why it isnt really that just right on telling on whats the purpose of the said thread.
Its clearly not a shit one and it is really something that suits out into this board. It might sound basic and typical but it do really counts.  Smiley
1116  Economy / Gambling / Re: A reminder for gamblers to avoid FortuneJack (ongoing lawsuit, 120k usd stolen) on: April 26, 2023, 08:07:44 PM
I`m surprised. I see the FortuneJack about 5 years at least and i think that it is good casino with good reputation. I played their few times and didn`t like it but i can`t say something bad about it. I hadn`t any problems with deposit and withdraw, the bets counted correctly and i didn`t contact with the support. But it was small money.
I can`t say anything bad about casino or about the OP but as i see they both sure that they are right. In such situation i think that only the court law will decide who is to blame.
Do you believe that the court knows the right answer? It's very hard to tell, there is no such thing as caught in the act when it comes to online gambling casinos, even if their games are audited it still doesn't mean they won't have their way of cheating, you can never win a gambling casino when it comes to what is right and what is wrong, it's their pace, their home, their house, you can't beat them at their own game and there is no proof of anything.

Fortune Jack is not a scam until proven to be, I doubt this can be proven even if they are into scamming, I've never use the casino before and the few ones I use am satisfied with them, if Fortune Jack sucks on your end find another online casino, there are too many options this days.
It doesn`t matter what i believe in. If the OP works with the court - its decision will be the only truth. And, as you noticed, Fortune Jack is not a scam until proven to be. Both the OP and the casino think that they are right, so the court will solve this problem and tell us who is right. We have no other ways to make a decision.
When it comes into these conditions then it would really be just that hard on making out some conclusions specially if it does really need up some legal approach or involvement since both parties are really
giving off their reasoning which means that it would really be needing on legal decision but in overall if we do talk about FJ's history and reputation out of this forum then we know that it is one of the most
reputable and old running sites or platform on this space which it is really that hard to believe that they would be scamming out users. Yes, it does have some issues back in the past but it did really
be able to fix and resolved it out but there are really that issues arent something that could be easily be handled and resolved which it would really be resulted on something like this.
Now, lets see on how they would be handling it out considering the amount involved is a bit huge but its impossible that they would be putting up their business just for this amount.
1117  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Beginner mistakes and how to avoid them on: April 25, 2023, 11:38:10 PM
In order to avoid mistakes as much as possible, you should start by simply observing how experienced traders operate. Then you need to analyze various strategies and choose the most appropriate one for your trading style. Of course, it is necessary to understand that it is impossible to avoid mistakes completely
Doesnt really need to observe out experienced traders but if you do find that you do have some hard time on making on your own, then getting or snipping out some ideas from older traders or experienced
ones is considerable or something that viable to do so as long it does benefit you out positive then go ahead and improve and getting some ideas as much as you can but on the time that you could
see that you do able to stand your own then its a must thing to consider. Strategy making does involved lots of trial and error which is something
that you would really be needing to mold up.

Lack of trading plan, Over trading, trading without a stop loss are some of the problems not only newbies face today even Experienced traders suffer from these mistakes!

But I think the main reason that causes all this is inexperience, traders want to dive right into the deep end without having to experience what the waters feel like by going into the baby pool which can be mimicked by using a demo account, which can allow you to get a real life experience and allow you to feel the emotion of trading and the alike, and once you put your strategy together you will definitely trade with the confidence and edge without having to worry about previous mistakes or having heavy loses.
Everything would be needing a plan or target which it does really need up to be thinking up on how its been done or on how it would be executed on whatever analysis that you had mold up.
Most beginner mistake is on making use of higher leverage or simply doing futures without having any experience on spot because they are really that hurrying up themselves
on making some profits without even trying out to consider on whats the risks involved. SL's is suggestable but if you are really that making
some short trades then its not bad to not use at least.
1118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: April 25, 2023, 10:31:14 PM
Gambling addict will not listen easily, they are drowning on their greed and they need proper assistance and medication, I'm talking about the worst case scenario of being addict in gambling. As much as possible, you have to help yourself if you are still in the early stage of addiction, it's not too late for you. These reminders are being posted here repeatedly and I'd hope that many are already aware about the possible risk of gambling and the threat of its addiction. If you can help someone who are into gambling, please do so because you can save his/her life by guiding them slowly but surely.
It’s certain that gambling addicts are not on their right thinking anymore. Instead of controlling their gambling activities, they even push their selves to the maximum limit just to be satisfied with their greed. So threads like this would not be helpful anymore. But what these gamblers literally needed are their family and friends to help them in their worst phase in life, if they can’t achieved that, maybe the help of medical practitioners would be the last option.
If it is a friend or one of our family, we should try to help him escape his gambling addiction.
Even though it may be hard, we still have to try.
Indeed gambling addicts will not think about curing their addiction instead they will continue to play gambling to satisfy their desires and to get lots of wins.
We also certainly don't want to see their lives destroyed because of gambling addiction, so we must continue to help them cure their gambling addiction.
Depends on a personality of a certain person because not all would really be having some concern in regards to other people on whats happening into them but if we are talking about a friend or family members then
it would really be that understandable that you would really be in concern and would be helping out because addiction isnt something that would really be that so simple to get out because once you do get shackled by it then it would really be hard to get out. This is why when you are a gambler then you should be mindful when it comes into your activity on which finances should be controlled and emotions as well.

Dont chase up losses and play according into your own leisure needs and not on having that intent on making yourself that rich via gambling because it cant really be just that possible unless if you are really that extremely lucky. Be responsible towards your actions and dont really be having that kind of mindset that you should play hard or more to make yourself able to cope up on what you had lost.
It cant really be just that simple on dealing it up if you are really keeping on chasing up.
1119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: SUI TOKEN PRICE SPECULATION on: April 25, 2023, 08:40:00 PM
Sui token will be launch on 24 April 2023. Three big exchanges Okx, Kucoin and Bybit are doing IEO on their launchpad with the price of 0.03 Allowlist price and 0.1$ Public price. The total supply of the tokens will be 10 billion. 50% will be used for Exchange launchpad and other purpose while 50% will be reserved by Sui Foundation for future. Token will be used for gas fee just like Aptos and Dao purpose.



Remember that only whitelisted users can buy at the price of 0.03$ per token. These are the loyal community who joined discord before 1 Feb. 96k people will be given allocation of 1500 token(45$) each. I am lucky to eligible for this whitelist sale.

What will be opening price and price where it will be stable. what should be entry price if whitelisted users dump it in first hours? Is it worth to invest in this coin?

Should i sell all token or hold some for better price just like Aptos?
When it comes to listing then it would really be that mostly the case on which the price would make out some correction because there would really be sell off into those people who had bought on presale or private or
whatsoever on which it would be that understandable that they would really be that prioritizing on selling out on securing their profits which is a common approach. If you have bought on cheap price then setting up some
TP on higher price is considerable.Also, whether you would be leaving for some moon bag or not or you would really be snipping out with those ups and down.

For price predictions then no one really knows on what it would be. Just to tell you that im an airdrop participant for this one but it do ends up that we wont really be recieving something.
I dont know on why SUI project didnt really consider out on giving out at least some little allocation for those who had helped out when it comes to marketing and exposure?
Sorry not to whine off but i cant really deny that this project is really something that good. I dont know on how their NFT would be ending up
its one of their features too.
1120  Economy / Gambling / Re: Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? on: April 25, 2023, 06:58:23 PM
There are kinds of gambling we play in our local settings doesn't demand the inclusion of money, it's all for the fun that comes with it and it's still regarded as gambling just same way with the superpick game. They're all gambling without or without money involved.

You didn't feel it... maybe you are too young, or older but without experience. Anyway, if you don't risk you don't gamble! And the more you risk the higher excitement can be! Some people feel it and get hooked for life.

Once again I can only point out that risking money is not the craziest gambling, in the chase of excitement people are ready to risk a lot more than "just money". That risk and excitement that comes from that can't be felt in playing "demo modes or playing some games on your console".

It's not gambling if you don't risk any money (or anything else) for a chance to get something more from that. End of story. OP should lock this thread, some comments are really ridiculous. Spend some time reading others before you post anything...

Correct! You would be able to find out the difference when it comes to emotion or simply with the thrill on the time that you do gamble out something compared to none on which you would be able to find out that there's soo much difference when it comes to this matter. Having no risking on something cant really be called gambling at all since same as you said that gambling does really involved on risking something to
get something. It wont really be giving out that kind of heart pumping situation because on the time that you've been dealing on something but knowing that you wont lose nothing then it doesnt
really give out that kind of excitement.


Yeah eventually you'll going to play when you feel that you are good in predicting games, not recommendable to those who can't control their emotions and have a possibility of being addicted, at first they are just trying to win the pot money a free prediction challenge that will allow them to win decent amount.

The next thing you will realize is that you are already playing using your own money and trying to win from the house that the site is promoting.
If you are emotionally that impulsive then you do lose. This is really that a very common behavior on which gamblers do really have and this is why its not
really that recommendable on making yourself get attached nor get involved with gambling because this is where things becomes that much worst
specially if you cant be able to control up yourself towards gambling. If ever you do able to encounter some free bets and still able to have
chance on winning money then its a rare opportunity i should say.
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