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7281  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is $4000 the perfect time to buy on: August 24, 2017, 05:24:53 AM
Now bitcoin has crossed more than $4000 but before one day i see bitcoin was under $4000 and still stop on $3900. Then i suggest you if you really want to buy bitcoin, so concentrate on price lowest and then in that time buy the bitcoin hurry.
But do you think in September hard fork will come and price will drop?
Because i also have been listen for 1st August that price downing, but nothing happen on 1st August.
7282  Economy / Speculation / Re: $100000 by 2024? on: August 24, 2017, 05:18:50 AM
Possibility, It will be happened as you tell us about logarithmic chart. Because i see this chart and in it, tell us a quorate price of every year. Then no doubt i will agree on it, that in the year of 2024 we will see bitcoin come at $100000. Then it is happy moment but still it confuse me, that should i hold my bitcoins for a long time or sell them in a highest price at $5000? 
7283  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: August 24, 2017, 04:45:50 AM
Gold vs bitcoin discussion is the one of the most repeated topics on this forum. Well holding bitcoin for long time can give a huge profit but it involves high risk, however holding gold for a long time can't give a huge profit but it involves minimum risk.
With the gold that's actually not true, Gold can give huge profits expecially when there is financial crisis in one of the big economies in the world, traders seem to go in for gold whenever a crisis happens either financial or terrorist attacks,  it's the safest bet for them.

If we discuss about the safest than bitcoin is also safest crypto currency and people believe and trust on it, and we could save our bitcoin into our wallets and it mean we save our money from thief and government, because we are not paying tax on bitcoin. But about huge profit than may be gold give us more than bitcoin. But personally, i have never experience of gold and i like to use bitcoin, that's why i prefer bitcoin on gold.  
7284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: August 24, 2017, 04:14:35 AM
Ya it sometimes does matter with experience you know what to do you get an idea about the house edge and most experienced gamblers stop gambling after a while when the house edge gives them signals it's not that hard but most importantly experienced ones know when to stop
depends on the types of gambling it self because some of gambling does not need experience like dice and mine sweeper it easy to understand and play but if you will depends on the house edge those who already knew about it should have fully controlled to their self not to push too much playing gambling because thats the sign to stop because in the end they will lose their money comes with profit.

Yeah, experience is sometime mustily and sometime we don't need experience in gambling. I absolutely admire you, because in dice and some ordinary games where we could easily play and we know that in these games, we have no needed to use anything like strategies and skills and we could play it. Than in these games, experience not matter. But about poker and sports betting we can't go on without experience. 
7285  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Help Me! on: August 24, 2017, 04:07:46 AM
I just lost my $50 while gambling! I want to get it back. How can I earn back my money? I really need it. Also I don't know if this is supposed to be posted here or not so sorry if it is not.

Definitely you have been lost your $50 to play in any game, and in this game you have lost. So what's the problem?
You don't know about it, that in gambling if you lose then your money never come back. Because it is gambling. Also i suggest you, relax and don't take tension about your $50. It is only $50 not a big money, you know in gambling mostly gamblers have lost everything in it. But next time play with your afford able lose.
7286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you a problem gambler? on: August 24, 2017, 04:01:20 AM
Not everybody has a problem gambling, but if you are a problem gambler, there is a support network they may help you. It starts with you recognizing the problem.

Start here:
http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/content/20-questions

Let's work on this together, you're not alone and you don't need to suffer from your addiction. If you have solutions or have the compassion to provide moral support, please help by participating in this thread.

Now we usually listen about gambling mostly gamblers have become addicted. Because addiction is common in gambling field, But as you give us link, in this way, at least we recognized that we are going to addict or not. If we are gamble then i think we should answers these question, it give us support than we will build control ourself against the addiction, and i feel happy that i found myself good gambler and not addicted. 
7287  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many people left their full-time employment to go into Bitcoin? on: August 23, 2017, 11:13:40 AM
I was talking to a friend the other day and he told me that two of his friends has left their full-time employment to concentrate on their Bitcoin ventures. < One in Crypto currency trading and the other into imports & exports, linked to ecommerce >

In light of the fact that Bitcoin is still experimental and very volatile, would you say that this was a good or a bad decision and would you do the same?

How many people have done this already?

It is fact, bitcoin has volatile power. Then automatically people attract with it. But to left the employment and concentrate on bitcoin full time, then i think it is also risky.
But on the other point of view, it is also right, Because not every employ has a good job and permanently job, that's why it is better for contractual employees to left the job and give the concentration on bitcoin.
7288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: August 23, 2017, 11:02:44 AM
Of course, to refuse gambling is very difficult for yourself, because it is a kind of dependence that does not seem to be a dependency, but on the contrary the player hopes to work a lot of money.

If you have a type of thinking like this, you will be definitely having so much time in quitting or giving up gambling.

But if you will set your mind that you are willing to quit and give up gambling you can do it.

It mean, we need strong decision maker for better ourself and give up gambling, But he is right telling it is difficult to refuse the gambling. We need time to refuse and give up the gambling, also do something else and busy ourself because you never come back in gambling again. Although these all reasons are useful for refuse the gambling, but i assure you that it is not easy to give up gambling.
7289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: August 23, 2017, 10:24:33 AM
For me to quit gambling don't think too much about it avoid playing gambling with in a week of course those gamblers who already addicted to gambling it because they already lose too much money to it  gambling has the very big impact into life where you can lose everything Quiting gambling is for our own good where we can easily save money and not to spend them to think that we have a great opportunity waiting for us in the future.

Also in my point of view, we never come in this level that we think we should quit the gambling. I play gambling occasionally, only one day in a week and i always use in gambling 0.01 in a week and and i have spend 3 years in gambling, but still i never think that should i quit gambling. Why i never think it because i never use money out of my budget. Then we think to quit gambling only when gambling give us big impact in our life and we have no choice only to quit the gambling.   
7290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: August 23, 2017, 10:11:19 AM
Usually I am after getting profit from gambling save back capital that I have used. And play with those profits. If lost I do not feel lost and not so strees. Because it's not one of my capital
Better always to save your profit and also your capital. But you have to focus always on secured capital and just use the profit you made. This type of strategy is always applicable. But there will be some that chose to gamble with their capital and profit, they are thinking that having higher on hand money will give them more chance of winning bigger money.
It is true that everyone has their own tricks to gamble. Someone keeps playing until he / she feels enough and some choose safe by saving their capital. There's nothing wrong with either

Saving your capital is the reason you are gambling in the first place. You just not gamble and use your profit in another roll of bets but if you do gamble for fun, you will play with your profit and you won't be taking any good consideration with the amount you had played for. Don't think of any other trick as saving your profit is going to be the wisest decision.

If saving your capital is the reason fornyour gambling, why gamble at all? Best to save your capital is not to use it ina very risky gamble. It may be an option for you and its a good option to keep your initial amount in case you win so you can play with the same capital the next time you decide to gamble

If we have decided to save our capital then we couldn't do gambling and we couldn't make the gamble. In gambling we should take a step and use our saving when we play gambling. But gambling give us money and lose, then we decided what is right for us to use in betting again or better to save. I think we decide this thing on the time, when we win and our bankroll is not enough to play again then better to use our profit which we already get from gambling.
7291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: August 23, 2017, 04:32:07 AM
No, I never try to play in order to solve the problem with money, because gambling is not created for earnings and there you can lose everything rather than solve your financial problems.

By creating gambling, it is not a purpose that people start to play gambling in order to solve the financial problems. For our financial problem solution is create trading and investment not gambling. I know you could understand it clearly, but a huge gamblers start to play gambling only for solve the financial problem and in this way, they are going in a wrong way. 
7292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: August 23, 2017, 04:14:11 AM
It's really hard to control your greed on gambling as long as you win, you want to continue playing. You want more money, but if you lose you want to take your money back that's why you continued to risk your money. I think the best way to control your greed is to never start gamble or if you can't control yourself to start to gamble just give yourself a limit. For example, you can bet until 100$ of you win you can continue playing but if those 100$ lose that's the time to stop playing.

Human is greed. It is already rare that you can win because of the house edge. And when you win, you already know that you are on luck right now so you will naturally think that since you are able to get $100, you will be able to get another $100 and so on. This is the same as stock market also. You will keep pray that the stock price will keep going out so you can earn more and may overbuy with no balance profile.
Exactly it is! Your brain automatically think that you will always can get easy money.
As in the previous game you have won easily too , then why not to give another shot?
They don't know that the house edge will eat you! It will make you get nothing but only house edge get the profit.

Absolutely, our mind always thinking to make money and search the way where we could earn money in a less time. We are always greedy for money more than love, and in gambling we see that we could come true our dream of make money. Also i agree with you, when we win in a bet then our mind convince us to do more bet and more win. But we don't know the next step.
7293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: August 22, 2017, 01:32:08 PM
Why is someone get addicted to gambling once he gamble ?

You really want me to answer this? The answer is very easy, money, fame and entertainment. No other reasons are behind the choices that I gave because it's the only reasons why a person gets addicted in it.

Sure You have been solved the question in a one sentence. Agreed, people not addicted to gambling only, people like other things which have more attractive to the people. Like Money, Power and Fun. People want these things and they assure that gambling is only that way, where they get in a fastest.
7294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with altcoins on: August 22, 2017, 01:10:24 PM
Sure i am also doing gambling with Bitcoin. It is one and only powerful crypto currency which i like much. Other altcoin are good but we can't comparison with bitcoin. Bitcoin has a different way than other coins. Because you aware the price of bitcoin has been achieved everything and all the people want bitcoin then why me and others play gambling to other coins. 
7295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What did you buy for money won? on: August 22, 2017, 10:05:47 AM
I bought myself some clothes and eat delicious food that is the best thing I can do when I win through gambling and besides I don't gamble all the time so when I win then I think its a lucky day.

The most expensive thing I bought with the winnings I've got in gambling is my smartphone which cost $200, which is expensive to me already. I'm not that much of a gambler, I'm winning enough profit, I could say, not like other which is betting big so the return that they are getting is much bigger, and I'm saving some of my profits because i want to buy a car.

Well, i have bought expensive thing more than you, i bought my iPhone which cost is 0.1 btc, and i won this 0.1 btc within my 3 last months from gambling. Then i suddenly decided to buy some good mobile and the previous week when i got win 0.05, then i bought it. But i still happy you and me have won in gambling and fulfill our dream. So should thank to gambling.
7296  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: August 22, 2017, 09:55:27 AM
I do not feel ashamed for playing gambling, because I do not depend on it, but on the contrary I can sometimes get a good win and am very proud of it Smiley

Yeah, as a gamble we should proud when we win in gambling. But i think he is asking this question that in most of the societies are not accept gamblers, even i see in many countries gambling is illegal, Their government ban the gambling, may be in this point of view, he is asking this thread. Because i see in my areas, mostly people don't like gambler, even these gamblers are very good in their behavior but instead of it, people don't like them.
In the society  point of view, may be gamble feel shame, but i think we should proud if we play gambling and win in it, because it is not easy to win in gambling.
7297  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why I suddenly decided to leave gambling alone. on: August 22, 2017, 09:45:32 AM
If you have decided then i think it is better for your future. Because we decided only those things which we think that these would be better for our future and in gambling field we should take right decision on the time, then we could safe ourself from big lose. You are not alone, most of the gamblers have left the gambling, and most of the gamblers spend less time in gambling.
7298  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it worth using bitcoins anymore for gambling ? on: August 22, 2017, 09:30:59 AM
I feel my bankroll management and savings all are highly unstable. Can go up or down by storing money in bitcoin to gamble. Some form of betting like poker requires good bankroll management and with value changing everyday, I don't see bitcoin as a good use for poker players and sportsbettors.



I don't think that it is big problem. When bitcoin price go to high then do small bet and when bitcoin price go to down than do bet with big price. It is depend on you, how to use your bankroll and manage it with bitcoin price. Actually, it is matter for poker and sport betting gamblers, So if we have control on our bankroll and use small and big bet with the price of bitcoin, than may be we will handler it.
7299  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fun seeking gamblers vs profit seeking gamblers on: August 22, 2017, 09:22:11 AM
Which side you are gambling ? Are you successful with your intentions of gambling ?

I read finding entertainment from gambling is possible for all the gamblers still it is not a preferred way for all the gamblers. Here we must note all profit seeking gamblers are not successful with their attempts.

How you are gambling honestly and what is your suggestion to a newbie ?

Be honest, i am playing gambling for profit seeking but i know it is hard, that's why i will play gambling for both of them.
For me, it is comfort, in this way, when i get profit "good"  but if i have lost then also it is "good" then i take turn in seeking for fun, and in this way, i forget my lose and still feel happy. As a gamble, we should need both choice of fun and profit seeking.
7300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to spot a gambler addicted? on: August 22, 2017, 09:03:21 AM
I think that usually a guy which play games for a long time, risk to became a gambler addicted. Which method you use for stop plaiyng when you understand that you are near to became addicted?

For example, i don't play a lot or for long time (i play games spot during my free time), so i have no idea about, but i trade forex all day and when i had a significant  loss i usually turn off my Pc and i go out for a drink , just for not run behind loss.

It is good way forget the lose, turn off your PC and go out side and set in the fresh air and change your mind in other thinking. But you are doing Forex Trading, in it also we have lost most of the time, it is little bit same like gambling. In gambling we have lost and taking a risk and when we get luck then we win in it. But don't think that continuously if we play gambling then we become addicted, only strong yourself and manage your money in gambling.
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