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241  Economy / Speculation / Re: Delusional bulls be Like... on: January 29, 2015, 01:53:45 AM
I will just leave this here too

I got an E-mail update from Linkedin, I checked out and it seems like some of Bitstamp employees were changing their work to a new company called GateHub Limited., So I Googled it to try to understand the reasons behind it and came to find this

This is what was interesting to me:

Quote from: GateHub link=https://xrptalk.org/topic/5293-opening-gatehub-february-2015/

For me it all started with Bitcoin. While studying architecture and working as a freelance web designer and developer, Nejc Kodrič contacted me one day and asked me to design him a website. He explained what Bitcoin is and how he believes it will change the world. I thought he was nuts. But after a while it became clear that we could make the world a better place. Bitcoin is amazing but it has limitations when it comes to everyday use. That’s where Ripple steps in.

Working for Bitstamp from the very beginning made me very fortunate to be one of the first people to get to know Ripple.

It was hard to grasp on everything it can do. But after using it for a while I realized that the founders of this protocol are up to something. Money right now is boring. There is no Twitter, Instagram or Facebook for money. You can’t have cool apps to visualize your income or spending. The reason for that is simply because we don’t have a protocol through which these apps could communicate with each other. We don’t have an API for money.

Ripple is that protocol, it is that API which we can use right now.

Knowing all that I decided that the only way to make everybody see the future is to bring the future to them. That’s how the idea of a new gateway was born. Me and my colleagues worked very hard for the last year to create something truly useful.

We hope you’ll love it as much as we do!



Enej Pungerčar, CEO and founder of GateHub Ltd.

Investors:

Investors & Advisors

Greg Kidd, CRO Ripple Labs
Chris Larsen, CEO Ripple Labs
Nejc Kodrič, CEO Bitstamp
George Frost, Lawyer



They just shitted all over Bitcoin.
242  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2015, 01:41:15 AM
Guys I got an E-mail update from Linkedin, I checked out and it seems like some Bitstamp employees were changing their work to a new company called GateHub Limited., So I then Googled it to try understand the reasons behind it and came to find this

This is what was interesting to me:

Quote from: GateHub link=https://xrptalk.org/topic/5293-opening-gatehub-february-2015/

For me it all started with Bitcoin. While studying architecture and working as a freelance web designer and developer, Nejc Kodrič contacted me one day and asked me to design him a website. He explained what Bitcoin is and how he believes it will change the world. I thought he was nuts. But after a while it became clear that we could make the world a better place. Bitcoin is amazing but it has limitations when it comes to everyday use. That’s where Ripple steps in.

Working for Bitstamp from the very beginning made me very fortunate to be one of the first people to get to know Ripple.

It was hard to grasp on everything it can do. But after using it for a while I realized that the founders of this protocol are up to something. Money right now is boring. There is no Twitter, Instagram or Facebook for money. You can’t have cool apps to visualize your income or spending. The reason for that is simply because we don’t have a protocol through which these apps could communicate with each other. We don’t have an API for money.

Ripple is that protocol, it is that API which we can use right now.

Knowing all that I decided that the only way to make everybody see the future is to bring the future to them. That’s how the idea of a new gateway was born. Me and my colleagues worked very hard for the last year to create something truly useful.

We hope you’ll love it as much as we do!



Enej Pungerčar, CEO and founder of GateHub Ltd.

Investors:

Investors & Advisors

Greg Kidd, CRO Ripple Labs
Chris Larsen, CEO Ripple Labs
Nejc Kodrič, CEO Bitstamp
George Frost, Lawyer



They just shitted all over Bitcoin.
243  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 29, 2015, 01:34:01 AM
cornering the market is a real danger for something so small as Bitcoin is right now, these 'dumps' are just theatre to shake coins into fewer and fewer hands ... because generally people are basically stupid and influenced emotionally by price expectations (FUD).

That's why the 'satoshi' stash is needed to thwart any future market cornering attempts, before the next wave gets too big and potentially destructive.


So you think that the growth from $13 to $1200 was completely organic, and today's price really reflect the value of Bitcoin or maybe it is even undervalued ? and you also think that people managing their risk by adjusting their position by selling are just stupid morons, and the people buying/holding are just the smart elites or at least the next to be elites ?

If the above holds as yes, then why don't you sell your house, sell your wife, sell your soul and invest every last penny you have in Bitcoin, because from your posts I understand that either: 1) you are so damn sure about your position this is why your posts sounds so confident and aggressive toward the "week hands" or 2) you are shitting your pants in fear and every post is a cry about your dreams being destroyed... and to be honest I think it is the latter one.
244  Economy / Speculation / Re: Something really fishy about the media couverage on: January 28, 2015, 10:54:53 PM
There was a tiny blip of positive coverage and that was "fishy"?

Don't worry, we've returned to the norm of totally-not-fishy negative coverage now.

anyway, my explanation: They have to give *some* positive coverage now and then, just so they can hammer down even harder when something does go wrong. It's about the drama! The media generally loves a negative story, but they are not so dumb as to never be positive.

It's like they are story writers for a soap opera. The plot has to have its twists and turns to keep the readers engaged.

Bullshit, now that their Master's money is also in the game, they have to talk positively about Bitcoin with some funny negativity now and then (to make it look as objectivity), but before the mega bubble, Bitcoin was only a speculative bubble that was used by criminals to purchase drugs, weapons and child porn on the darknet markets such as Silkroad, or some nerds and geeks "magic internet money".

245  Economy / Speculation / Re: Something really fishy about the media couverage on: January 28, 2015, 08:12:52 PM
Fishy? More Fishy that the coverage claiming that Cypriots were transferring money into bitcoin while their money was LOCKED into banks? I don't think so. I'd rather say bad reporting.
So glad someone else realizes this. All of 2013 was complete manipulation with attribution to glorified news stories and unethical trading bots. Bitcoin's true value should not be more than $40-50 right now.

If the rumors are true, Mark K literally ruined Bitcoin.

Yes, I forgot about the Cyprus Crisis... they claimed that the first bubble in 2013 was caused by that... what a fucking nonsense, and yes Bitcoin price is so over inflated.

try to mine one-you will see how 'easy' it is.

Don't worry, when people dump more of their coins and the price depreciate, mining a bitcoin will get easier
246  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 07:05:54 PM
OMG, the longs will get squeezed soon, this will be epic.

Very likely  now sub 200

Bears in full control now

Why? This is merely a consolidation of the speculative pump to $300... It's a micro-bubble popping right now... The resemblance is remarkable! I don't know what would warrant going down now after the sustainable growth to $240/$250 - the pump to $300 wasn't sustainable, I give you that.

Let me tell you something, the whole price ATM is way too speculative.... do you think the growth from $13 to $1200 in one year sustainable ? if you think the bubble have already popped then you are wrong my friend, the bubble is still bursting (I think).
247  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 07:03:48 PM


I wish price would of moved to $312 instead of $310 so I could have my sell order filled... Embarrassed

You repeated the same post how many times already ? why didn't you sell at $300 or at $280 or $260 or $250 or now ? stop wishing and have a strategy.

BTW, how old are you ?

I woke up at $270 after the $310 spike so I figured I would sell at ~$285 but it never came.
I think we'll see a short term bottom soon though

I'm 20

20, you should be enjoying the 20s instead of watching charts 24/7 and going crazy about it, the 20s goes by so quick, a blink of an eye and you are in your 30s... no seriously, make a strategy and stick to it.
248  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 07:00:37 PM
Amazing, Price going down, less shorts and same amount of longs...Explain that to me


Shorts

https://i.imgur.com/GfvP4SE.png


Longs

https://i.imgur.com/4giodaw.png


Compare it to my post before.


explanation: these graphs make sense if you remember what adam guerbuez said: "the roller coaster that makes the current roller coaster nothing" . if you can understand these great words of wisdom then these graphs are suddenly made clear. with just one tweet adam guerbuez gave me the new skill of the ability to read bitcoin graphs in much clear defined vision .


Care to explain more, I don't really get what you are trying to say... are you trying to say that it doesn't mater, you will still have an open long position even if the price is crashing because the future growth is going to be so amazing that there is nothing to see here and now ? 
249  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 06:55:06 PM
OMG, the longs will get squeezed soon, this will be epic.
250  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 06:53:49 PM


I wish price would of moved to $312 instead of $310 so I could have my sell order filled... Embarrassed

You repeated the same post how many times already ? why didn't you sell at $300 or at $280 or $260 or $250 or now ? stop wishing and have a strategy.

BTW, how old are you ?
251  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 06:46:30 PM
Amazing, Price going down, less shorts and same amount of longs...Explain that to me


Shorts




Longs




Compare it to my post before.
252  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 06:43:08 PM
Look at pathetic BTCChina, supposedly the volume leader.. cant even break down a BTC1,400 wall. They're falling behind because the wall is too large to break.

Pathetic. That exchanges real volume is probably <20K a day, not >200k

I remember Bobby Lee the CEO of BTCChina talking about how phantom orders and how Chinese exchanges such as OKcoin and Huobi have no shame fake their order book(phantom orders) and volume... now it seems that they started doing the same in order to not fall behind.
253  Economy / Speculation / Re: Something really fishy about the media couverage on: January 28, 2015, 06:28:50 PM
Fishy? More Fishy that the coverage claiming that Cypriots were transferring money into bitcoin while their money was LOCKED into banks? I don't think so. I'd rather say bad reporting.
So glad someone else realizes this. All of 2013 was complete manipulation with attribution to glorified news stories and unethical trading bots. Bitcoin's true value should not be more than $40-50 right now.

If the rumors are true, Mark K literally ruined Bitcoin.

Yes, I forgot about the Cyprus Crisis... they claimed that the first bubble in 2013 was caused by that... what a fucking nonsense, and yes Bitcoin price is so over inflated.
254  Economy / Speculation / Re: Something really fishy about the media couverage on: January 28, 2015, 05:35:32 PM
The press only writes about things that sell - that are interesting. And all those incredible turns and events in Bitcoin do sell well, I guess. After the Gox failure, the almost Stamp failure, it is pretty impressive that regulated exchange goes live - in the US.


"Regulated"
255  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wouldn't it be nice... (the LazyWhale algorithm) on: January 28, 2015, 05:05:50 PM
^ Right. Good point.


average-fast = f(x)
average-fast-sig = f'(x)

average-mid = g(x)
average-mid-sig = g'(x)

average-slow = h(x)
average-slow-sig = h'(x)

sig-1 := if average-mid > average-mid-sig, buy. if average-mid < average-mid-sig, sell.

sig-2 := if average-fast > average-fast-sig, buy. if average-fast < average-fast-sig, sell.

sig-3 := if average-slow < average-slow-sig, sell.

trade-signal := if sig-1 == sig-2 == sig-3 == sell, sell. if sig-1 == sig-2 == buy, buy. o/w, do nothing.


To be clear, the final trades are based on the combined 'trade-signal' condition.

ah OK, so it is not a code, it is kind of a logic you have there, and do you daily pull the data and calculate it manually? if yes, then where from and how do you get that data?
256  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wouldn't it be nice... (the LazyWhale algorithm) on: January 28, 2015, 03:51:32 PM
Alright. Initially, when people asked how the algorithm works internally, I refused to specify it any further. Now that nobody cares anymore, here's the basic idea ^_^

Note: I'm not going to fill in the exact numerical parameters of the the technical/indicator signals. No need to encourage frontrunning. But in principle, with the details I'm about to give, you could find your own (and probably very similar) parameters by training the individual parts over the market data that is the same for everyone.

The trade signals of this algorithm are a complex condition based on three technical signals.

Signal #1, the "main" signal, is a medium term momentum signal. Think "daily EMA20+10 crossover", but the average I use is instead a Hull type average (and the parameters are obviously not 20/10).

Important to note here: signal #1 is symmetric wrt 'buy' and 'sell'.

If used alone, signal #1 is profitable over the global bitcoin history (GX, BS, BF), and roughly uniformly profitable as well. However, it yields slightly too many trades, and tends to sell too early during major rallies. So, it is not the desired signal yet that only sells when it really has to.

Signal #2 is a short-term momentum signal. It acts as a filter applied to #1. Think of it as an "optimal entry/exit" filter. It cannot initiate additional trades by itself, it can only delay a trade based on signal #1. It is basically capturing the idea: if the medium term is up, but the short term is drastically down, better wait a bit before you buy (similar for delaying a sell trade). Signal #2 is buy/sell symmetric as well, and I don't really think it is problematic (also, leaving it out doesn't change the results from a pure signal #1 strategy much).

Signal #3 is the tricky one. You could call it the "bubble filter". Just like #2, it doesn't do anything other than (possibly) delay signals coming from #1, i.e. it doesn't add to the total number of trade signals but only *reduces* them under certain conditions.

It defines certain market conditions (think: long term momentum) to be so strongly bullish that a mid-term momentum signal from #1 that says 'sell' should be ignored for the moment, until either the mid term is up again, or the market condition becomes less bullish, in which case the 'sell' goes through.

And here's the tricky bit. Signal #3 is not buy/sell symmetric. It only delays 'sell' trades, but not 'buy' trades, in case the long term momentum is flipped around

I know. That buy/sell asymmetry is a big violation of all that is holy in algorithmic trading. Reeks of overfitting.

Still, given the history of the Bitcoin market so far, I can see some justification for it. It works well for 2011, 2012, 2013. In 2014, it still works well enough for the first half, but from then on, it's not really justified anymore.

I guess it all depends now if Bitcoin will ever go through a significant bull market again, and when. Let's say it does ("Bitcoin is dead" users need not reply Cheesy). That still doesn't mean that the exact parameters of the "bubble filter" are optimal, but it's probably not going to be the millstone around the algorithms neck that it is right now, delaying sell signals when it really shouldn't.

In a way, I'm making a human choice for my algorithmic method here: the assumption, that in the long run, it is better to err on the side of buying than on the side of selling - a choice that is justified by the global history of the market, but not by the more local one.

Comments welcome.

Can I take a look at the code ? maybe if you upload it on Github you will get some contribution which will help make it work better algorithm ?
257  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 03:04:58 PM
a Long squeeze is more likely to happen than a short squeeze.



almost $17M $16.8M in longs




almost 13K BTC in shorts





Edit: I just realized that the USD swaps may include LTC longs as well.
258  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 02:58:04 PM
Short Squeeze incoming!


Did you mean a long squeeze ? I cant see a short squeeze happening when the price is going down.
259  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 02:38:33 PM
Its cut your losses

you must be new in this thread.

Even mmitech who was one of the biggest Bitstamp shills

Really? I don't remember shilling for them, can you please point me to the post that made you think that I was shilling?

Will do later, I have to go out. You were constantly going on about how you met they guys they were to be trusted etc etc.

So living 5 min away from their offices and meeting the guys that I trusted with my money is now shilling ?  the answer is no, I used them the same like many of you did, it just felt more comforting for me knowing the exchange that I use is in my town and the people that run it are known to me, I might talked about using the same local bank they use and how quick my deposits came in because of that.

BTW, I am sure I wont use them again until I see a solvency report...
260  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 28, 2015, 02:29:00 PM
Its cut your losses

you must be new in this thread.

Even mmitech who was one of the biggest Bitstamp shills

Really? I don't remember shilling for them, can you please point me to the post that made you think that I was shilling?
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