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1221  Economy / Speculation / Re: Satoshi cashing out some Bitcoins!!! on: July 27, 2014, 03:41:13 PM
** EDIT ** I have an article pending on 'Let's Talk Bitcoin' which includes all of the raw data

 idiotic title

ok, thank you.
1222  Economy / Speculation / Re: Satoshi cashing out some Bitcoins!!! on: July 27, 2014, 01:01:37 PM
no need to be a smart ass and remind me about saying I am done posting here...  Grin
1223  Economy / Speculation / Probably Satoshi cashing out some Bitcoins ? on: July 27, 2014, 12:51:13 PM
I came across this thread today on reddit:


The only people I know for sure mining a significant number of bitcoins blocks in the first three weeks were Satoshi and Hal Finney. Is it common knowledge by now that we know who the first early miners were?
I ask because someone who mined blocks between January 29 and February 7, 2009 has been cashing them out over the past nine months. I'm curious how large the list of likely suspects is.
** EDIT ** I have an article pending on 'Let's Talk Bitcoin' which includes all of the raw data. However, here is just one example of what I'm referring to.
https://blockchain.info/address/15coobWGLz5rTPPLwMqDrC848g5rSqgXX1
https://blockchain.info/address/1CgrbzKje66Pcz1egaAnhr7qEGfdk9atS2
https://blockchain.info/address/1KiCeqdXxzTYeq1dDUi6B1265cqFwsihzm
https://blockchain.info/address/14pDPbeBCCn4CoNKc7YZJnJSWnqfoxf1XF
Mined January 30, 2009 then February 4, 2009, then February 6, 2009, then February 7, 2009.
For those who do not know, the very first bitcoin block ever was mined on January 3, 2009
https://blockchain.info/block/000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f
The second one wasn't mined until 6 days later on January 9, 2009:
https://blockchain.info/block/00000000839a8e6886ab5951d76f411475428afc90947ee320161bbf18eb6048
So, any blocks from January 30th are absurdly early in this history of the blockchain and only a handful of people could be responsible for this!
These begin with block #2400!!
All spent/transferred within minutes on February 6, 2014!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And these aren't the only very, very, very, early bitcoin blocks which have been redeemed. There have been a series of them, which is included in the data when the article gets published.


if this is Satoshi this means that the million Bitcoin is not lost and the guy still have control of the wallet, the next thing we need to know is if he will be selling some of that million and how, when and to where otherwise to whom (we might know who is satoshi at the end).  


Edit: I changed the Title because I agree about it not being accurate.
1224  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 25, 2014, 06:08:55 PM
What if it breaks?  Huh  Cry
What are the generally accepted long term channels at the moment?

It is generally accepted that you should never sell your bitcoins for anything less than a price, which is multiple times of the ATH of the prior boom.

- If Bitcoin is in its growth channel, and you panic sell in the bottom, it will cost you most of your bitcoins when you panic buy at 5-20x higher after realizing you were wrong. (If you panic buy threshold is lower, you end up always buying high and selling low, and diluting your holdings.)

- If it it destroyed, you have no way knowing it and being able to salvage the high point of your value. Salvaging a low point, is meaningless when the same outcome in fiat terms can be achieved by selling a few %-points more in the previous boom.

this community lives in dreams just because of people full of shit like you, of course you sold most of your Bitcoins to buy a "castle" and fill your account but you tell others to don't, what a dick head.

What the hell happened to you too? You used to have spot on predictions and gut feelings and I enjoyed reading most of your comments. Now you're just following risto to discredit him any occasion you get. I get it, you strongly dislike the man, and I'm not fond of him either but now you sound like the dark crypto offspring of Bitchick and Stolfi. One wants to save me from my sins, the other wants to save the world from itself. You wanna save people from... idiots with bitcoin bought castles?

I just had enough of the stupidity of some and the malicious and scammish behavior of others (there is plenty of them here around), and I see that most of people here don't agree with me, they get even offended because I crash their dreams sometimes,

so this will be my last comment in this forum, enjoy all of you Smiley
1225  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This message was too old and has been purged on: July 25, 2014, 02:46:09 PM
Question:  If someone were to solve this, how would they know they would get paid?

if you solve this and you know how you did solve it (not just a guess) then you don't need to get paid here because you could have all Bitcoins you want Smiley
1226  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 25, 2014, 02:32:21 PM
MMitech is one of the most pathetic people on this board. Writes an article about how great Litecoin is...LOL. Now trolls everyone while price is dropping when he admits he just wants to make money himself. GTFO and go cry on your own.

No, now he's going on Litecointalk and posting doom about LTC, all the while promoting DRK.  Jesus dude, switch horses much?  This is how you kill personal credibility on forums.

post a link where I doomed LTC... be a man and do it.

Edit: in fact, post a link where I doomed any coin except Dogecoin.

That is how I interpreted your comments on Litecointalk, that you don't care about BTC or LTC anymore, that you'll just jump on the next altcoin/shitcoin bandwagon to try and make money on pump and dumps.  Here's EXACTLY what you said:

to be honest, I don't really give a shit about what coin will succeed as long as I have a piece of it, most will tell you that this is changing the world and this is changing the money as we know it but I tell you I am here to take profits and nothing more, should it be Bitcoin or Litecoin or Drkcoin that will suceed, hell it could be shitcoin... it doesnt matter as long as I am making profits

an honest statement there, and most of you here invested for the same fucking reason, if you didn't think that Bitcoin would skyrocket you wouldn't fucking invest, in fact if you knew now that the price will crash to $10 wouldn't you sell? better keep holding, because bitcoin came to save you from your selves.

there is many delusional dick-heads here, stop pretending....when the most of the day you cry about the price not going anywhere and most of the time show your frustration about the expected bubble not happening, in the real world economics bubbles are bad, but only in Bitcoin bubbles seems to be the best things can happen, because most of the people here became greedy fucking bastards that refuse to admit their wish to profit.

I admit investing just to make profit, and I literary don't give a single fuck about which coin will succeed as long as I have a piece of it.
1227  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 25, 2014, 02:17:31 PM
MMitech is one of the most pathetic people on this board. Writes an article about how great Litecoin is...LOL. Now trolls everyone while price is dropping when he admits he just wants to make money himself. GTFO and go cry on your own.

No, now he's going on Litecointalk and posting doom about LTC, all the while promoting DRK.  Jesus dude, switch horses much?  This is how you kill personal credibility on forums.

post a link where I doomed LTC... be a man and do it.

Edit: in fact, post a link where I doomed any coin except Dogecoin.
1228  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 25, 2014, 02:12:04 PM
If this consolidation continues for another week until Jan. 6th, bears are going to be treading on REALLY thin ice, imo.

Depends on the timeframe. Personally I expect the final capitulation in Feb +/- 1 month, so one week does not matter much. Perhaps there should be a different thread for people who trade on daily, weekly and monthly timeframe. Or less slander. If March passes without hitting $400, then the chances of seeing it again are slim.

Well my premise is this one. A lot of new fiat will be hitting the exchanges in January. People want to get in NOW given what happened between Jan to Dec of 2013. Especially if the slow trend up continues.

My timeframe is longer. Bitcoin has been around for 5 years, and it has always been a terrific enlightenment for those who have been ripe for it. The knowledge about bitcoin has grown exponentially and investment into it has grown exponentially. I expect this to continue and every year be on average 12 times more glorious (as it has been), until everybody uses bitcoin (which will happen in 2016-17 at this rate). Everything that has happened since 2009 is captured by the trend and its variations, and will be.

There has been some regularities in the growth that I have researched, some of it is published, some not. I believe knowing them gives an edge in trading, and so far it has proven to be good. I have several million dollars of my own money that I could use to purchase bitcoins but choose not to. Not at this price. I am taking a large, calculated risk, with entry points set according to mathematical model for the rest of the year. I even gave the average sell price a few posts ago. Now there is no need to comment that I am doing bad every time the price rises $10. You could as well post about how good I am doing for the reason that I always have more bitcoins than fiat anyway  Cool

So, after smoking the best the world has to offer, I again feel that taking a break from this thread is in order.

See you at $500. And don't fall in the bull trap Wink

you have really to brag about your millions and what you are smoking hahahaahah, man what an ego, maybe you understand some market(silver market?) but you dont understand the network effect and the technology that bitcoin offers, most of your calls were wrong, the calls where were you right was just a lucky call, like most of traders here, you need more luck than anything else.


Bitcoin is the most unpredictable asset, there is no company that you can analyze, there is only early geek adopters and really early techno savy entrepreneurs that crash the market when they decide to cahs some profit, BTW your only advantage "for these many millions" is the time when you knew about Bitcoin. many of us here invested more Fiat than you maybe saw in your life so stop braging about your "millions".... new money this is what is it called   Cheesy

Looks really like switching between extreme mania to deep depression. Maybe you should not allege other people to dream and deal more with own illusional dreams and illusional nightmares. This would be more healthy.

Regarding you're doing your business (now) in the Arab way, you should thinking of doing it better the Asian-Zen way with more mental balance ;-)


that statement above is still valid, and I still think the same didn't even change my mind Wink BTW, middle east arab countries are in ASIA, so go figure that out...  Cheesy
1229  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 25, 2014, 11:34:08 AM
MMitech is one of the most pathetic people on this board. Writes an article about how great Litecoin is...LOL. Now trolls everyone while price is dropping when he admits he just wants to make money himself. GTFO and go cry on your own.

so you are the one who read my articels  Grin
1230  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 25, 2014, 11:22:38 AM
What if it breaks?  Huh  Cry
What are the generally accepted long term channels at the moment?

It is generally accepted that you should never sell your bitcoins for anything less than a price, which is multiple times of the ATH of the prior boom.

- If Bitcoin is in its growth channel, and you panic sell in the bottom, it will cost you most of your bitcoins when you panic buy at 5-20x higher after realizing you were wrong. (If you panic buy threshold is lower, you end up always buying high and selling low, and diluting your holdings.)

- If it it destroyed, you have no way knowing it and being able to salvage the high point of your value. Salvaging a low point, is meaningless when the same outcome in fiat terms can be achieved by selling a few %-points more in the previous boom.

this community lives in dreams just because of people full of shit like you, of course you sold most of your Bitcoins to buy a "castle" and fill your account but you tell others to don't, what a dick head.

How time is changing. A couple of months ago you was the roaring uber-bull and fonzietila the bear.

It's nothing surprising, people change bullish to bearish and vice versa.
But Market is not going anywhere atleast for 1-2 weeks too.

That people change bullish to bearish and vice versa is not surprising, yes. But that they change the side with same Emotionality. I mean, investing overloaded with emotions....

...better doing something creative with your emotions like singing, dancing, or running nude on the street but evaluating an investment...

...no!

I see that I stepped on your dreams....
1231  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 25, 2014, 11:14:03 AM
What if it breaks?  Huh  Cry
What are the generally accepted long term channels at the moment?

It is generally accepted that you should never sell your bitcoins for anything less than a price, which is multiple times of the ATH of the prior boom.

- If Bitcoin is in its growth channel, and you panic sell in the bottom, it will cost you most of your bitcoins when you panic buy at 5-20x higher after realizing you were wrong. (If you panic buy threshold is lower, you end up always buying high and selling low, and diluting your holdings.)

- If it it destroyed, you have no way knowing it and being able to salvage the high point of your value. Salvaging a low point, is meaningless when the same outcome in fiat terms can be achieved by selling a few %-points more in the previous boom.

this community lives in dreams just because of people full of shit like you, of course you sold most of your Bitcoins to buy a "castle" and fill your account but you tell others to don't, what a dick head.

How time is changing. A couple of months ago you was the roaring uber-bull and fonzietila the bear.

I never cheered for people to hold Bitcoins forever, I am here for profit, I stated this many times, I give zero fucks if Bitcoin or another coin will succeed as long as I have a peace of it.
1232  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 25, 2014, 10:50:15 AM
What if it breaks?  Huh  Cry
What are the generally accepted long term channels at the moment?

It is generally accepted that you should never sell your bitcoins for anything less than a price, which is multiple times of the ATH of the prior boom.

- If Bitcoin is in its growth channel, and you panic sell in the bottom, it will cost you most of your bitcoins when you panic buy at 5-20x higher after realizing you were wrong. (If you panic buy threshold is lower, you end up always buying high and selling low, and diluting your holdings.)

- If it it destroyed, you have no way knowing it and being able to salvage the high point of your value. Salvaging a low point, is meaningless when the same outcome in fiat terms can be achieved by selling a few %-points more in the previous boom.

this community lives in dreams just because of people full of shit like you, of course you sold most of your Bitcoins to buy a "castle" and fill your account but you tell others to don't, what a dick head.
1233  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 24, 2014, 05:26:50 PM

I would love to answer but it will have to be a PM at this point because everyone seems to be getting a bit annoyed.  Wow.  Who would have thought that religion was more annoying than all the trolls combined!?  Interesting. Wink

Bravo! You trolled the trolls. I'm not one to agree with your religious views, but at least you were civil. Can't say the same for the "humanity inspired moral loving" people who attacked you.

Bye Bye sub $600 coins, it was nice knowing you.

Stupidity and ignorance should be attacked, otherwise you're enabling them.

True. But this was more like someone saying "bless you" after you sneeze, and instead of just saying thank you, and going on with your day; you instead start berating them and showing them cartoons of child porn on your phone.

Let's buy some BITCOIN!

you have such an imagination  Cheesy
1234  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 24, 2014, 05:18:28 PM
oh Satoshi, our lord and saviour, deliver us to freedom.

if he gives me a chunk of that million coins he hold I will make sure to love him as much as you do  Cheesy
1235  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 24, 2014, 04:58:18 PM


bitcoiners should start a religion, moonisum!  


buy Bitcoins or you will burn in hell ? selling is a sin that you fix only by buying  Cheesy
1236  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 24, 2014, 04:44:33 PM
I do think it's kind of abusive to teach children they or their familiy/friends/acquaintances will suffer an eternity in hellfire unless they follow the one true religion in the one true sect. It's also kind of abusive to teach them that Satan is on this world and responsible for all evil. This will make them more prone to superstition and manipulation and less conducive to reason.

Btw, I won't moderate this thread since it's the "quarantine" section of this forum, plus, adam has the authority to delete anything since it is self-moderated. Just in case anyone is unaware.

I think all religions can take things to the extreme.  I have seen manipulation and guilt used so I agree in that.  But I do think that our society is "starving" our people by now avoiding teaching religion/Christianity at all.  Most people are Biblical illiterate.  They think they know what is in there but they never read it for themselves.  I think we should all study all religions.  We need to be knowledgeable about this instead of blindly just following whatever feels good to us for the moment.

so you are telling me that you studied all religions and your search ended with the conclusion of Christianity being the answer to all mysteries of the universe ? well you know, I was born a Muslim so I didn't have a choice, but I live my life in the way the common sense and logic guides me, although there is some interesting aspects of life in all religions that we can learn, the whole point of a religion was to govern people when it was hard to maintain borders and when it was hard to keep things settled and organized.... 
1237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 24, 2014, 04:26:49 PM
BitchicksHusband might even chime in but he is speaking at a Christian youth camp this week.
We live in a world where people can openly brag about child abuse with no expectation of being called out on it.

Nice to see her bat shit crazy husband is poisoning the mind of children so they can become bat shit crazy like him.

Religion and children. Such a good combination.  

OK.  So what have you done lately to encourage the younger generation to love themselves and love others and to make a positive difference in the world?


showing them this

https://i.imgur.com/fAgiHbn.png

And what makes you think that God is even slightly OK with all of that!?  Of course He isn't but I know someone who totally is: the same "father of lies" that tries to steal, kill and destroy us all.  We all have choices to make each day. It doesn't matter if you are high up "priest" or "religious" leader.  We choose to love others or not too.  The only real religion God cares about is the one that loves others and does what is right.  All of the abusers, that don't repent, will suffer the most!


the difference between you and most of us here is that we also have morals and values, but you give the credit to your religion and we give credit to humanity, you use what a book says and we use logic and common sense.....  


Edit: beside, more people died and suffered because of religion than anything else in the history of human combined.
1238  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 24, 2014, 03:57:18 PM
BitchicksHusband might even chime in but he is speaking at a Christian youth camp this week.
We live in a world where people can openly brag about child abuse with no expectation of being called out on it.

Is it abuse to tell kids that they have great value regardless of what others say?  The main message of the camp was how to love yourself, love others and love God.  That is abuse somehow?  But you would probably be totally fine with a bunch of kids smoking something.

so Christians doesn't smoke things ?

yes, actually they got it wrong

it wasn't the apple adam wasn't supposed to eat

it was the tree he shouldn't have smoked

the tree of knowledge.

yes thats right,
adam and eve got high
and everything turned to shit!

AND GOD WAS ANGRY!

 Cheesy

 Grin  no wonder humans are fucked up.
1239  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 24, 2014, 03:54:28 PM
This is trouble. Imma take a break from this shit and see where we are in a few days.

lol, this thread become entertainment thread for  some people , they just come here to enjoy and take some humorous advice.

I dont even visit the other sub-forums that much, this is my main thread for months now  Cheesy
1240  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 24, 2014, 03:53:23 PM
BitchicksHusband might even chime in but he is speaking at a Christian youth camp this week.
We live in a world where people can openly brag about child abuse with no expectation of being called out on it.

Is it abuse to tell kids that they have great value regardless of what others say?  The main message of the camp was how to love yourself, love others and love God.  That is abuse somehow?  But you would probably be totally fine with a bunch of kids smoking something.

so Christians doesn't smoke things ?
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