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[tarmi]

I feel sorry for all of you guys that expected a bounce from 250~260.

I said no.

You always say no. So you have to be right some times.

no.  

in 2011~2012 I said yes!

place your bids gentlmen! bitstamp bid side not looking good.

In case you haven't noticed, Stamp is dieing. Anyone making decisions based on Stamps order book has gone full retard.

no, I didnt notice. over here bitstamp is working perfectly fine. I can withdraw fiat and bitcoins no problems.

as far as I am concerned fiat on exchanges is dying.

Cartivex is also working fine, I can withdraw fiat and bitcoins no problems. Does that mean I should sell everything as there bid side doesn't look too great either, couldn't even sell 1000 coins there...

Genius.

good, take your coins and money to some obscure places like bitfinex or china and trade there. i wouldn't recommend it but hey it is your money.

I don't think I'll take your recommendations being as you seem to be happy trading on an obscure exchange somewhere in Slovenia, with a head office in the UK that just had their hot wallet drained without noticing.

they have a perfect record in my book.

also, risk wise EU > HK > China.

butthurt much?

They just got hacked for 19k BTC and you say they have a perfect record. Excuse me while I fall over laughing.

they honored all the missing coins. never read any complaint.

better CUT YOUR LOOSE.

[dreamspark]

I feel sorry for all of you guys that expected a bounce from 250~260.

I said no.

You always say no. So you have to be right some times.

no.  

in 2011~2012 I said yes!

place your bids gentlmen! bitstamp bid side not looking good.

In case you haven't noticed, Stamp is dieing. Anyone making decisions based on Stamps order book has gone full retard.

no, I didnt notice. over here bitstamp is working perfectly fine. I can withdraw fiat and bitcoins no problems.

as far as I am concerned fiat on exchanges is dying.

Cartivex is also working fine, I can withdraw fiat and bitcoins no problems. Does that mean I should sell everything as there bid side doesn't look too great either, couldn't even sell 1000 coins there...

Genius.

good, take your coins and money to some obscure places like bitfinex or china and trade there. i wouldn't recommend it but hey it is your money.

I don't think I'll take your recommendations being as you seem to be happy trading on an obscure exchange somewhere in Slovenia, with a head office in the UK that just had their hot wallet drained without noticing.

they have a perfect record in my book.

also, risk wise EU > HK > China.

butthurt much?

They just got hacked for 19k BTC and you say they have a perfect record. Excuse me while I fall over laughing.

they honored all the missing coins. never read any complaint.

CUT YOUR LOOSE.

Its cut your losses but anyway Im far far far from needing to do that. It could go to 0 and I would still have made money on my initial investment.

Now Im sure your trolling, they can say they are honoring the coins but you will never know if they actually can unless everyone tried to withdraw at the same time.

Even mmitech who was one of the biggest Bitstamp shills there was questions whether they are solvent.

Clearly the market also questions their solvency and their ability to protect users assets, the volume tells you that.

[D05GTO]

I'd feel better if stamp had a liquidity page like this.


https://www.atomic-trade.com/liquidity

[findftp]

In case you haven't noticed, Stamp is dieing. Anyone making decisions based on Stamps order book has gone full retard.

Totally agree. After the close beginning of january the orderbook vanished.
You can better look at bitfinex if you ask me.

Yes, at least they admit that they are insider trading, stop-hunting and front running over there  

Do you have a reference for that?

[soullyG]

In case you haven't noticed, Stamp is dieing. Anyone making decisions based on Stamps order book has gone full retard.

Totally agree. After the close beginning of january the orderbook vanished.
You can better look at bitfinex if you ask me.

Yes, at least they admit that they are insider trading, stop-hunting and front running over there  

Do you have a reference for that?

I'm assuming he means this

[tarmi]

I feel sorry for all of you guys that expected a bounce from 250~260.

I said no.

You always say no. So you have to be right some times.

no.  

in 2011~2012 I said yes!

place your bids gentlmen! bitstamp bid side not looking good.

In case you haven't noticed, Stamp is dieing. Anyone making decisions based on Stamps order book has gone full retard.

no, I didnt notice. over here bitstamp is working perfectly fine. I can withdraw fiat and bitcoins no problems.

as far as I am concerned fiat on exchanges is dying.

Cartivex is also working fine, I can withdraw fiat and bitcoins no problems. Does that mean I should sell everything as there bid side doesn't look too great either, couldn't even sell 1000 coins there...

Genius.

good, take your coins and money to some obscure places like bitfinex or china and trade there. i wouldn't recommend it but hey it is your money.

I don't think I'll take your recommendations being as you seem to be happy trading on an obscure exchange somewhere in Slovenia, with a head office in the UK that just had their hot wallet drained without noticing.

they have a perfect record in my book.

also, risk wise EU > HK > China.

butthurt much?

They just got hacked for 19k BTC and you say they have a perfect record. Excuse me while I fall over laughing.

they honored all the missing coins. never read any complaint.

CUT YOUR LOOSE.

Its cut your losses but anyway Im far far far from needing to do that. It could go to 0 and I would still have made money on my initial investment.

Now Im sure your trolling, they can say they are honoring the coins but you will never know if they actually can unless everyone tried to withdraw at the same time.

Even mmitech who was one of the biggest Bitstamp shills there was questions whether they are solvent.

Clearly the market also questions their solvency and their ability to protect users assets, the volume tells you that.

yes, with low volume comes the question of solvency.

on the other hand China and bitfinex trading thousands of coins and millions of dollars back and forth does not raise any question.  

[findftp]

In case you haven't noticed, Stamp is dieing. Anyone making decisions based on Stamps order book has gone full retard.

Totally agree. After the close beginning of january the orderbook vanished.
You can better look at bitfinex if you ask me.

Yes, at least they admit that they are insider trading, stop-hunting and front running over there  

Do you have a reference for that?

I'm assuming he means this

Thanks

[dreamspark]

yes, with low volume comes the question of solvency.

on the other hand China and bitfinex trading thousands of coins and millions of dollars back and forth does not rise any question.  

Trading thousands of coins and millions of dollars back and forth is the definition of trading and a market  

[NotLambchop]

...It could go to 0 and I would still have made money on my initial investment.
...

Hear this all the time, a variant of "I'm playing with house money" goofiness.

No, you're not playing with house money.  You're playing with YOUR money, it's yours now.
The fact that you have made money in the past doesn't alter the inadvisability of losing [a part of] it now

[tarmi]

yes, with low volume comes the question of solvency.

on the other hand China and bitfinex trading thousands of coins and millions of dollars back and forth does not rise any question.  

Trading thousands of coins and millions of dollars back and forth is the definition of trading and a market  

solvency dude. we were talking about solvency.

gox had the biggest volume ever and guess what happened.

[mmitech]

Its cut your losses

you must be new in this thread.

Even mmitech who was one of the biggest Bitstamp shills

Really? I don't remember shilling for them, can you please point me to the post that made you think that I was shilling?

[phoenix1]

Yes, at least they admit that they are insider trading, stop-hunting and front running over there  

Do you have a reference for that?

I'm assuming he means this

Thanks
[/quote]

Yeh, that will do! There is also a whole thread about it somewhere

[dreamspark]

yes, with low volume comes the question of solvency.

on the other hand China and bitfinex trading thousands of coins and millions of dollars back and forth does not rise any question.  

Trading thousands of coins and millions of dollars back and forth is the definition of trading and a market  

solvency dude. we were talking about solvency.

Explain then how the fact they trade lots of coins means they are insolvent when we've just agreed that the market questions Stamps solvency by trading hardly any coins. I'm not sure you even know what your trying to say. Im off out, will reply later if you can actually produce a serious answer.

[dreamspark]

Its cut your losses

you must be new in this thread.

Even mmitech who was one of the biggest Bitstamp shills

Really? I don't remember shilling for them, can you please point me to the post that made you think that I was shilling?

Will do later, I have to go out. You were constantly going on about how you met they guys they were to be trusted etc etc.

[tarmi]

yes, with low volume comes the question of solvency.

on the other hand China and bitfinex trading thousands of coins and millions of dollars back and forth does not rise any question.  

Trading thousands of coins and millions of dollars back and forth is the definition of trading and a market  

solvency dude. we were talking about solvency.

Explain then how the fact they trade lots of coins means they are insolvent when we've just agreed that the market questions Stamps solvency by trading hardly any coins. I'm not sure you even know what your trying to say. Im off out, will reply later if you can actually produce a serious answer.

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Dont have to bother to answer. I am done with you.

[findftp]

In case you haven't noticed, Stamp is dieing. Anyone making decisions based on Stamps order book has gone full retard.

Totally agree. After the close beginning of january the orderbook vanished.
You can better look at bitfinex if you ask me.

Yes, at least they admit that they are insider trading, stop-hunting and front running over there  

Do you have a reference for that?

I'm assuming he means this

Well, I read it and I'm not suprised.
I'm convinced that every exchange is doing it, upper or lower level people.

What do you think when you're a relatively low paid system/database administrator?
You must be very mentally strong to ignore such a wealth of information.

He however is a moron/hero for admitting it.

Every single trader would use this information when it was available for free.
If you don't like it, don't trade on such an exchange or start your own exchange with transparency on all levels. I will trade there...

Are these P2P exchanges aiming on such a platform?

[mmitech]

Its cut your losses

you must be new in this thread.

Even mmitech who was one of the biggest Bitstamp shills

Really? I don't remember shilling for them, can you please point me to the post that made you think that I was shilling?

Will do later, I have to go out. You were constantly going on about how you met they guys they were to be trusted etc etc.

So living 5 min away from their offices and meeting the guys that I trusted with my money is now shilling ?  the answer is no, I used them the same like many of you did, it just felt more comforting for me knowing the exchange that I use is in my town and the people that run it are known to me, I might talked about using the same local bank they use and how quick my deposits came in because of that.

BTW, I am sure I wont use them again until I see a solvency report...

[NotLambchop]

...
Are these P2P exchanges aiming on such a platform?

P2P exchange is the finance equivalent of Douglas Adams' Infinite Improbability Drive.  Sounds cool until you think about it.

[troleybüs]

It was easy money for us old timers. Buy sub-200, sell 300. Profit.

[Arpeggio]

Get ready to lose some dollars boys.