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1101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. LAUNCH NOV 1 on: November 20, 2016, 11:17:03 AM
Only Darknet adoption could help improve things  Smiley

We can try to spread a message about NAV on Darknet markets and help them to accept it as a payment option. 

https://www.deepdotweb.com/dark-net-market-comparison-chart/
Yes, but I think NAV needs its decentralization to be finished first.

Sure, I agree. For now I'm concerned only about shrinking marketcap. It shows that demand for NAV is poor despite all brilliant development and coming decentralization. We all should think about adoption. It is the first and foremost issue.
1102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. LAUNCH NOV 1 on: November 20, 2016, 09:25:25 AM
Only Darknet adoption could help improve things  Smiley

We can try to spread a message about NAV on Darknet markets and help them to accept it as a payment option. 

https://www.deepdotweb.com/dark-net-market-comparison-chart/
1103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. LAUNCH NOV 1 on: November 19, 2016, 06:49:28 PM
To all newbies complaining about  the price and blaming NAV team that they do nothing to stop a dump.
Firstly, NAV team are developers and not a market speculators. They can't control the price. It is you.
Secondly, correction in price will come with NAV adoption in the market. Now, NAV is only a coin offering anonymous transactions (with decentralization it will become even greater) but what do we really need is adoption. Darkmarket, libertarian societies, supranational communities, businesses, whatever kind of market. Adoption is the first sign that somenone needs NAV. So, wait for it, if you have enough patience.
1104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zcoin - The Zerocoin cryptocurrency, guaranteeing financial privacy on: November 19, 2016, 04:51:58 PM
I was one who bought early and don't sold on high. Locked my Zcoin holdings for long term.
1105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. LAUNCH NOV 1 on: November 19, 2016, 04:22:00 PM
i dont see this dump as manipulation in this case.
navcoin had a big pump... last consolidation was at 2k~3k for a long time and then boom. 10k~12k.

a few smart holders sold at 10k~12k, others at 6k~9k. but most of the investors were specting to see a new ATH. Right now we are seeing a "desperation" dump... bitcoin price brought the price down and now the old holders from 2k and others who bought at the top are getting out.

i've sold at 8500 and bought back at 4k. now they are back to my wallet and i will hold for a month or two again.

Such techniques never allows NAV price to go higher. People bought enough cheap NAV and I'm sure they will dump it again if market shows uptrend direction. Newly arriving users and new markets, accepting NAV, could change the situation. I'm staking and do not care about the price. I will buy more if it drops  Smiley

Niche for NAV as it is anonymous coin:

Encrypted Services Exec: Bitcoin’s Price History Follows Gartner’s ‘Hype Cycle’
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/encrypted-services-exec-bitcoins-price-history-follows-gartners-hype-cycle/

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What is also new is that instead of having the parties to the transaction maintain private electronic records, the records are maintained in numerous copies and easily available for review by anyone.Such transparency makes sense for regulated transfers such as real property transfers and commodity trades. But not for transactions requiring privacy.

The anonymity benefits of blockchain are frequently oversold, according to Khan. All bitcoin transaction records are open and available for inspection using tools like Block Explorer. At some point, bitcoin ownership could be connected to individuals. Individual transactions could be accessible to outside parties.
1106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. LAUNCH NOV 1 on: November 19, 2016, 04:11:02 PM
i dont see this dump as manipulation in this case.
navcoin had a big pump... last consolidation was at 2k~3k for a long time and then boom. 10k~12k.

a few smart holders sold at 10k~12k, others at 6k~9k. but most of the investors were specting to see a new ATH. Right now we are seeing a "desperation" dump... bitcoin price brought the price down and now the old holders from 2k and others who bought at the top are getting out.

i've sold at 8500 and bought back at 4k. now they are back to my wallet and i will hold for a month or two again.

Such techniques never allows NAV price to go higher. People bought enough cheap NAV and I'm sure they will dump it again if market shows uptrend direction. Newly arriving users and new markets, accepting NAV, could change the situation. I'm staking and do not care about the price. I will buy more if it drops  Smiley
1107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | STRATIS | The first blockchain developed for businesses |Full POS on: November 19, 2016, 10:55:21 AM
Dumpers - out, investors - in!
1108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. LAUNCH NOV 1 on: November 18, 2016, 06:08:07 PM
I think that theviralexchange campaign to spread the message about NAVCoin is very good option. Many people joined the flow of tweets.

Was theviralexchange used for this?

Yes, for viral points.
1109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. LAUNCH NOV 1 on: November 18, 2016, 03:56:11 PM
I think that theviralexchange campaign to spread the message about NAVCoin is very good option. Many people joined the flow of tweets.
1110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒ Syscoin - LIVE Decentralized Marketplace, Encrypted Messaging, Escrow & more ☍ on: November 18, 2016, 10:20:47 AM
Sadly, but almost all threads are submerged with talks about the price movements. It makes me to consider exit option out of cryptocurrency. Almost a few persons, real users and enthusiasts of crypto, are talking about the real use of it and possibilities how this technology can change obsolete economy. You should understand that not the price movement makes crypto great but adoption and real everyday use of technology it brings to improve our lives.

For the most part, you are correct and, I think most of us understand that but, look at it like cheering for your favorite football team. When there's a good play during the game, we all cheer and when there's a touchdown we stand and cheer but, when our team wins the season, that's when the real celebration begins. It's all about getting to the "holy grail", massive adoption by the public. Granted, some folks are only there for the one game but, that doesn't matter to the rest of us.

As human beings, we need to pat ourselves on the back as we travel that road and cheer on the team we have picked to win. Now, I'm not saying we all care, many are only here for a quick profit and then move on to the next project for the same but, we need to take the good with the bad on that road to adoption and make what we can of it.

Also keep in mind there are many, many behind the scenes that don't post in these forums but read them. The "instant gratification" day traders post things to influence the rest of us to act as they want us to act. For the most part, they are wasting their time and energy but they do have some influence, it's a big world out there. Through all this Syscoin continues to raise and is getting closer to the goal every day. In all fairness, so are many other projects and that is healthy. Without competition, there would be no innovation.

Just remember, no matter what the reason for investors to cheer on Syscoin, we ALL are hoping for success and wide spread adoption. In that, we all all the same. So, hang in there, ignore the stuff that bothers you and comment on the stuff that interests you, and remember, life goes on...





Thank you, just wish for Syscoin to be as successful business as ebay, amazon or alibaba and better from technological side of the project Smiley
1111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒ Syscoin - LIVE Decentralized Marketplace, Encrypted Messaging, Escrow & more ☍ on: November 16, 2016, 10:18:13 AM
Sadly, but almost all threads are submerged with talks about the price movements. It makes me to consider exit option out of cryptocurrency. Almost a few persons, real users and enthusiasts of crypto, are talking about the real use of it and possibilities how this technology can change obsolete economy. You should understand that not the price movement makes crypto great but adoption and real everyday use of technology it brings to improve our lives.
1112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. LAUNCH NOV 1 on: November 14, 2016, 10:55:55 AM
Great job by NAV team and community. Waiting for the news and whitepaper Smiley
1113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. LAUNCH NOV 1 on: November 04, 2016, 11:37:48 AM
I have a problem with my NAV Windows wallet. First time my antivirus program found a threat in wallet.qt file but I ignored it. Now when I'm trying to run the wallet, i tcrashes first time and only after restart everything is working. Does someone knows there is the problem? I did everything according to guide on NAV page. This problem is only on my new PC, running windows 7.
1114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. LAUNCH NOV 1 on: November 03, 2016, 09:23:46 AM
In my opinion market capitalization reflects that crypto-currencies currently ain't acceptance in criminal world. It is not to say that criminals are not using crypto at all but it is much more smaller part in comparison with traditional monetary system. The biggest criminals, though they are not looking so brutal as ISIS and other shit, are banks, corporations and governements. The 2 world wars were because of governmental ambitions and not because of agreement of nations. Bitcoin and altcoins are designed not to destroy current system but to improve it.

Regarding NAV coin, I would like to ask a question. I cannot stake NAV 24 hours long as I need to shut down my PC. Electricity in the area I live is very expensive. Could someone suggest how can I run staking 24 hours long? I'm waiting for Raspberry Pi but until this probably I can use VPS server. Any suggestions?  
1115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zcoin - The Zerocoin cryptocurrency, guaranteeing financial privacy on: November 02, 2016, 12:06:43 PM

No reason for this coin to be so highly priced, set some buys between 10 - 30K, don't hold all the way down.
Start buying when the early bag holders dump out of desperation.

Highly priced? Snakeoil Navcoin with Soopy the photoshop "cryptographer" is worth 5x more than working zerocoin tech, it's crazy really. This is why we need to get on Polo, even the scam coins prosper over there with its daily volume.

I think that you cannot understand the nature of the things. If you are talking about anonymity and privacy from the point of you of academic, it is right - ZCoin and ZCash are the best. But do you think that bulk of ordinary people do need snobbish papers on cryptography they can understand zero? You can say that your paper is the most cited in academia world and it is very good if you are in the territory of university. But if you enter the market the rules are changing. I have experience in academia and, believe me, the best university papers are not the most cited ones in media. Stephen Hawking with his backward theories are the most popular publisher for ordinary people. That's weird.

My position is like this: XMR, SDC and NAV have strong communities they built over the years. Who cares about the code, if you are not a cryptographer? Even for less advanced specialist in cryptography it is not easy to understand full technological aspects of ZCash and Zcoin, not to mention pizza seller or drug dealer, for example. So, what is left to us? Only media and marketing pushing huge hype. Believe me, most of the buyers of ZCash cannot explain how it works but they are buying like crazy because of media hype. Do the same with XZC and you could expect similar results, especially, if you have only ~3000 coins supply on the market. 

Finally, could you trace XMR, SDC and NAV transactions if they are not anonymous?   

For a layman's explanation of how it works. Taken from our Wiki.

Most cryptocurrencies including Bitcoin rely on public ledgers. This means that all transactions are public, and the history of a coin can be traced from its inception, and all the transactions that it has been involved in.

Although the ownership of addresses are not known, through advances in statistical analysis and other meta-data (such as IP, time, use of exchanges), researchers have managed to reasonably accurately tie ownership of addresses to a real life identity.

As the blockchain forms a permanent record, they can be endlessly analyzed and once the identity is revealed, all the history of the coin is also tied to the identity.

This can be problematic for example if someone used Bitcoin to do some illegal activity and that particular Bitcoin somehow ended up in your hands, you may be implicated just by virtue of being in possession of that Bitcoin. Furthermore, if you are business or merchant, you may not want competitors to have knowledge of your transactions. With a public and transparent blockchain like Bitcoin's, this may be problematic to achieve.

Some have tried to make it harder to do this by using coin mixers/tumblers. However, this involves trusting that the mixer/tumbler will not steal your money and also is not secretly recording how the coins are being mixed.

Zerocoin technology, which Zcoin uses allows the anonymization of coins that doesn't require you to put your trust in a mixer.

The easiest way to visualize Zerocoin tech is a black box, where everyone who wants to anonymize their coins places their coins in it. When they are ready to spend the coin, they produce a proof that they did place coins in the box, but the proof does not state which coin they placed. The proof could refer to any of the millions of coins in the box, and nobody knows which coin the proof is referring to. The proof simply states that the creator of the proof has placed a coin in the box, without giving any specific information about which coin it is. When other people see this proof, they have no idea who created this proof but are mathematically convinced that it is a valid proof. If the proof is valid, the proof entitles the proof creator to create a new coin with no transaction history and not related to any of the coins in the box, provided that it is of the same value. This means there is no linkage between the deposit transaction into the box and the redemption transaction whereby a coin is taken from the box.

The innovative part of Zerocoin is how this proof is generated where although you deposited the money into the box (and this transaction is recorded in the blockchain), you are somehow able to prove that you deposited into the box, without revealing which 'deposit' transaction was originally yours, hence the term 'zero knowledge proof'.

Thank you, for me it is not a question that ZCoin is very solid project.
1116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zcoin - The Zerocoin cryptocurrency, guaranteeing financial privacy on: November 02, 2016, 10:02:41 AM

No reason for this coin to be so highly priced, set some buys between 10 - 30K, don't hold all the way down.
Start buying when the early bag holders dump out of desperation.

Highly priced? Snakeoil Navcoin with Soopy the photoshop "cryptographer" is worth 5x more than working zerocoin tech, it's crazy really. This is why we need to get on Polo, even the scam coins prosper over there with its daily volume.

I think that you cannot understand the nature of the things. If you are talking about anonymity and privacy from the point of you of academic, it is right - ZCoin and ZCash are the best. But do you think that bulk of ordinary people do need snobbish papers on cryptography they can understand zero? You can say that your paper is the most cited in academia world and it is very good if you are in the territory of university. But if you enter the market the rules are changing. I have experience in academia and, believe me, the best university papers are not the most cited ones in media. Stephen Hawking with his backward theories are the most popular publisher for ordinary people. That's weird.

My position is like this: XMR, SDC and NAV have strong communities they built over the years. Who cares about the code, if you are not a cryptographer? Even for less advanced specialist in cryptography it is not easy to understand full technological aspects of ZCash and Zcoin, not to mention pizza seller or drug dealer, for example. So, what is left to us? Only media and marketing pushing huge hype. Believe me, most of the buyers of ZCash cannot explain how it works but they are buying like crazy because of media hype. Do the same with XZC and you could expect similar results, especially, if you have only ~3000 coins supply on the market. 

Finally, could you trace XMR, SDC and NAV transactions if they are not anonymous?   
1117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. LAUNCH NOV 1 on: November 01, 2016, 07:21:13 PM
I don't know who organized this dump but it was planned to evoke the panic sale. It happened immediately after the news of release were published. They are trying to hurt NAV project purposefully. But stay calm, I do not think that they have enough coins to drive the price as low as 4000 sat.
Not in this case! When the Bitcoin was green, other currencies were red. NAV kept artificially high price and sell their coins is expensive, now the price should fall as the other coins. I do not believe in fairy tales, it's time red. View the price in the summer and understand where we are going.

It was done on purpose and panic sell started. Of course, BTC is hurting all coins together with stupid buying of ZCash.
1118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - ANONYMOUS TECH. LAUNCH NOV 1 on: November 01, 2016, 07:08:12 PM
I don't know who organized this dump but it was planned to evoke the panic sale. It happened immediately after the news of release were published. They are trying to hurt NAV project purposefully. But stay calm, I do not think that they have enough coins to drive the price as low as 4000 sat.
1119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒ Syscoin - LIVE Decentralized Marketplace, Encrypted Messaging, Escrow & more ☍ on: October 28, 2016, 06:52:53 PM
Massive sale of altcoins started, SYS included. You know what to do  Smiley
1120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚒ Syscoin - LIVE Decentralized Marketplace, Encrypted Messaging, Escrow & more ☍ on: October 28, 2016, 12:34:33 PM
If Syscoin gets qualified as an independent software vendor (ISV) on Microsoft,  ladies and gentlemens, do not forget to fasten your seatbelts.

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