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301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How long does it takes for a Token to rise the price after ICO? on: June 12, 2018, 12:25:59 PM
Was confused with this matter if how long it takes a token/coin to rise its value from ICO Price to a higher price?

Does it take 1 or 2 weeks, months or years after the ICO to reach higher price than the ICO price? 

I saw a lot of ICO's which already listed in an exchange sites but the price still very low and is lower than the ICO price, how could it be? People are investing in ICO but lost because the value after ICO in exchanges are lesser than they price where people are investing.

No one knows when would the price would rise. There are so many ICOs launch recently and even listed in exchanges but are below ICO price and some even 90% lower then ICO price which makes the investors infuriated because they are hoping that the price would rise upon listing in exchanges but the opposite happen. If the developers are still active then better hold the coin if you do not need the funds at the moment but if you need funds then better think if you wanted to let go of that investment or not. There may be some hope and wait for the team to have working product to see if  it can attract more investors.

It depends of the crypto market. If it was last year, an ICO could rise immediately or after 3 months. But some ICO from last year didn't rise and just fall lower than the ICO price. And they are still very low or lower.
It depends on the interest of the traders. You can't predict which ICO is going to be successful or not. A good marketing is very important.

Just like what you said, a good marketing strategy is important so that it can attract more investors and it s momentum will stay. It is better for the team to have good news from time to time so that investors wouldn't lose faith and if they can follow their roadmap or maybe ahead of it then it would be better. There are good projects but behind in marketing and their team are active too but they have low price because they weren't able to attract more supporters while there are projects that has too much hype that's why they have high price.
302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: is buying new listed coin profitable? on: June 12, 2018, 11:55:10 AM
It is sometimes profitable to buy new listed coin because some of them can rise very rapidly as long as they have high demands and are potential but some of them can fall gradually if they do not get enough demand and are not really potential.

Some are profitable and some are not. If you want to do it just for speculation purposes without doing any research then one strategy that I have read is to let the price subside. Usually the price would spike after listing and after sometime, price would go down until such time when it found a support and start going up again. It is very risky since most of the technical analysis has a history to base from but this kind of strategy works for some but you can be rekt too following this strategy. Make sure that the coin you would be buying has good fundamentals so that you have a chance that people would support it.

The development of a project depends on how much money they collect. Perhaps when buying at ico, we are not informed of how much they have earned. But you can choose a successful ico, and wait until the market release. There is no guarantee to be profitable, but at least it will be less risky.

A successful ICO means that many are interested in the project but there is a risk that they would dump it upon listing in the exchanges so better be wary and take all necessary precaution when buying those newly listed coins. You can search if there is bounty campaign and the bounties are already distributed since there is a higher possibility for the price being dumped by bounty hunters and wait for the time there is seller exhaustion and then you can buy.
303  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price manipulation on: June 12, 2018, 01:56:13 AM
Prices can only be manipulated when a large amount of bitcoin gets into the hands of few people, usually whales. They may control prices by making the prices dip when they suddenly begin to sell a lot of their bitcoin at very comparatively low prices so they can buy more bitcoin. They can also buy a lot of bitcoin suddenly with a relatively higher bid to raise prices.

The first one you are talking about is the shake out which is usually occurring in a support and they will further push the prices down so that the traders who put stop losses below the support would be liquidated and then it will give them more liquidity so that they can buy more bitcoin at a lower price. This is just one of the price manipulation strategy but there are various type of it in the market. One of the most famous is the pump and dump wherein whales or even a group of traders would buy a coin simultaneously to make the price higher and attract more people to buy it and when the price is higher, they would sell their position and those who bought at the top would be left behind.

You can take a look at this video explaining the different types of price manipulation in the market and further understand their purpose and how they've done it. It will help you as well to detect those manipulation so that you can avoid it or take advantage from it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If8ZM8GkThg

304  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What are your rules for profit taking on: June 11, 2018, 02:20:00 AM
My main rule in terms of profit taking is to never become greedy and always set your goals to withdraw. This might look simple but many people fail to follow this rule due to which they need to face loss in their investment. When your coin is rising everyone wants to earn more and wait for the coin rise but in this wait coin gets crashed or dumped in no time due to volatility of crypto currency. I believe if you really want to play with risk then you should take your initial investment out and invest he remaining amount.

Taking your initial investment would be a big help so that you can control your emotion. Knowing that what is left in the market is your profit is an assurance that wherever the market will go, you still have a profit and you will have a rational thinking of when you should decide to take it all. Having a trading plan or sell levels would help in deciding when is the right time to sell. As for me, I don't wait for big gains but instead, I aim for small gains and if that profit percentage is reach, I would move my stop loss above so that in case the price go south, I am assured that I have less losses or I still have small profit. I let my profits run but I am strict to when should I stop my losses especially in this very volatile market.
305  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we make sure that our money we invest in Bitcoin is safe? on: June 11, 2018, 01:40:07 AM
The assurance about its safety is depends on us. If we secure our accounts and remember all the information we put, the less risk of being hacked. Thus, if you want to make sure about your money's safety, do the best in your security.

Security will be the key to make sure to make sure that your bitcoin is safe. First, secure your private key and make sure no one knows about it because if anyone will have access to your private key then expect that you can lose your bitcoin anytime because he will also have access to it. It would be favorable if you save your bitcoin in a hardware wallet like Trezor or Ledger Nano and print all the necessary information and keep it somewhere safe. You can avoid being hacked through this way since the key to access your wallet is non-existent online.

Even if you have backed up all over so many times your private key, there are still risk involved in getting hacked. I think we do not have a 100% assurance that we all are safe on getting hacked. As long as we are connected to the internet, all are possible since hackers are very wise. Just don't put all your Bitcoins in a single wallet.

If you hold a number of coins then better separate it in different wallets so that even if one of them is hacked, you still have other coins in different wallets. I know someone who has quite a number of coins and he separate his coins in different wallets around 10 of them. If you keep a large portion of your wealth in crypto then better have a lawyer so that you are ready when something happens and your family can still have access to it.
306  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-06-08] Virtual Currencies to Become “Part of the Economic Practices” of Al on: June 10, 2018, 12:08:43 PM
There is no doubt that for some countries it really will, but to any...  What about such countries as Bangladesh who's regulation of crypto use is really rough from the most beginning? Do you guys think that they may change their position towards crypto one day?

I believe so. If all other countries in the world are already welcoming cryptocurrencies with open arms then they may change their stance towards cryptocurrency. There are many countries that are still closing their doors toward crypto but the statement of CFTC is indeed an eye opener that cryptocurrency is already part of the economy and it is not going anywhere anytime soon. Many are already benefiting from cryptocurrency and although the legal implications about it is still questionable, some countries are taking positive stance about it which would be followed eventually by others in the future.
307  Economy / Economics / Re: The Future of Cryptocurrency on: June 10, 2018, 11:31:10 AM
The future of cryptocurrency depends upon the interest of people, if they are looking for it then the market will survive and if they refuse then the market will collapse and will finish at the end. However this is a general fact and we know that people are in great interest and this made the coins more valuable and especially the Bitcoin which is the most valuable coin even in its lowest state.

If more people adopts cryptocurrency then its future would be bright. We are still in the stage wherein projects base on blockchain technology would be tested that uses cryptocurrency and how it can help for the businesses processes to be more efficient and effective. As what we can observe now, more people are getting interested in it and basing on the number of projects that are release day by day, it would be a big help if we use the coins for its actual use case.

Some of the limitations that cryptocurrencies presently face – such as the fact that one’s digital fortune can be erased by a computer crash, or that a virtual vault may be ransacked by a hacker – may be overcome in time through technological advances. What will be harder to surmount is the basic paradox that bedevils cryptocurrencies – the more popular they become, the more regulation and government scrutiny they are likely to attract, which erodes the fundamental premise for their existence.

Some of the limitations can be overcome if the owner of the coins would apply security measures to ensure that its coins are safe. We have yet to see what will be the final decision of the government when it comes to cryptocurrency as they still do not know how to treat it and there are still some pending regulations that they have yet to discuss. As we are waiting for their decision which I think will be good news for crypto community, let us help each other promote cryptocurrency to someone who is willing to learn about it.
308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What is crypto pump? How to take advantage & Earn Max From? on: June 10, 2018, 02:36:07 AM
We should always keep us away from these pump and dump group.
Only the big fish makes profit from these  pumps because they know the news before announcement and dumps on innocent people.
News based trading is comparatively less riskier than these pump and dump but in my opinion we should always do research before investing in any coin.

Before buying any coin, make sure you know what is happening to that coin because there might be some news about it in the future or maybe bad news so it is important that research should be done first. Participating in pump and dump is not a good idea because those who bought early would surely dump their coins when the price go up and when you notice the coin when it is already up then better leave it and find another coin. Don't chase the highs because there is a high possibility you will just be dumped on.

The only way one can benefit from a pump without having a prior knowledge about it is pure coincidence because one can happen to invest based on patterns sighted and nothing else. Pump groups are everywhere now and targets are low market capitalization and unpopular ones which makes it difficult for one to really identify when the pump is going to happen and the duration that it would last. The best would be to get in quickly and exit fast.

That's the reason you should buy a coin when it is still low in price but good fundamentals. There are so many pump and dump groups nowadays and they just choose what exchange they would pump a coin. Studying the price action of the coin would be a good way of spotting some coins that might be pump in the future like increasing volume but still low in price.
309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Leaving Your Job is The Worst Idea on: June 10, 2018, 01:51:29 AM
I ever heard that people choose to quit their job for doing some crypto job. Whether it is trading, mining, or bounty. But I think that's the worst idea. Maybe they think that kind job like that can earn many profit but they doesn't looking at the risk and keep do it. Look at the market, they stay red and it will hard to get profit from investing or trading. GPU price is more expensive as well as a lot of capital to be spent when starting mining. Also Bounty Hunter has bad condition right now with too many SCAM ICO which caused some of them just wasted their time and doesn't earn anything.

How they can earn money for daily need if only depends on the crypto?

You're right. If you have a good paying job then one should not left it for crypto especially if you already have a family that needs your support as earnings from crypto is not stable so you wouldn't want to risk not having any income as you are still unsure if you can earn from it. At least if you have a job then you will be able to provide for your family's needs and you are sure that you can still receive something.

I think your job should keep running, even though the salary of your work is not much but it can be a stable finance rather than a job in crypto, I do not advise to leave work because it's a bad idea and will only reduce income.

The ideal way would be to make it as an extra income than a main source of income. There is a possibility that you can earn much bigger income from crypto than your job but there is still a higher possibility of not getting anything from it so better be assured of having a fixed source of income. One has also a choice of practicing trading until such time he becomes profitable so that he will have a choice of leaving his job if he wants to but it may take years to do it.
310  Economy / Economics / Re: Why I am not sharing my crypto love? <3 on: June 09, 2018, 03:26:57 AM
It is good to share your knowledge because you can help others. But you must choose the person you must tell and choose only the needy who would need some money for living.

Share only to people who are willing to learn. To be honest, I am willing to teach anyone before about it because it has help me a lot but seeing how they response to what I am saying even saying negative things about it without even knowing the whole story, I just stop educating them about it and only teach those who will come to me and ask about it. Those people will come to you know anyway when they see that you are doing good and they can even hear it from other people or even in the news.

almost all people outside of crytoworld at same attitude. if they see your  earning as a crytolover they are thinking its easy.. but in our side its to hard to get good profit you need to wait  for a month or sometime a year before see the good profit' people  ask how to do it? what will do to earn ? you teach them but after a few days they give up that's because they experience the hardwork to earn.

They are thinking that it's a get rich quick scheme because maybe they are used to traditional markets which would take years to profit and in crypto maybe it would just take months but they are not patient enough that's why they are expecting to earn it in just days. Because of being greedy, they can see some HYIP in social media being offered and they decided to invest on that because they cannot wait for months or years and end up losing all their investment.
311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Real-Life Professional Gambler will help you recover your losses on: June 09, 2018, 02:34:25 AM
I don't see any purpose of open his service to public, if he is really professional and good, he better play and collect all the money for himself, by opening his service, he jeopardise himself and maybe he can be banned, I never believe to lend some gambler money and asked him to play for me, all gambling game is pure luck

It's the first time I heard of a professional gambler. I agree with you mate that if he can earn it for himself then why open his service to any one else and if it is really true then he would be banned to enter in a casino because he keeps on winning every time which for me is too good to be true. I will only believe it if I can see it with my own eyes. Maybe it was just a chance that he was able to win during the time when OP watch how he gamble.

House never made game in such a way that you would be getting win in a row. And like don’t tell me, 27 win in a row. I never played any game in casino but what I have perceived here, I am sure this can never just happen and had never happened before as well. For those who made their minds and others foolish, they must understand it is just a trap and scam, nothing else.

Yeah right! I have not been to a real casino too but what I watched in the movies is that when you are winning consecutively, people would notice you and then find a way for you to stop playing. Winning consecutively is already bad business for the house and how much more you offer services to others openly so he wouldn't be able to even enter a casino next time.
312  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you trust chart analysts? on: June 08, 2018, 12:19:06 PM
Do you trust chart analysts?
I always look at the opinions of analysts that I trust during the day. I have my own experience of trading on forex, and comparing my opinion and opinions of analysts - I get the solution of which I adhere. But in any case, - whether you listen or trust the opinion of analysts, - you risk your personal money. But, why not trust the expert's opinion if it looks like the truth?

All of us have different speculations of where the market might go in the future. It would be better if you have an idea about charts if you think that it would be helpful for you. About trusting the TA experts, some of them are good in predicting where the price might go in the near future and some do fail but what is important is what is your stand to what they are saying.

I, myself, make their analysis as reference and know why they think that way because I am willing to learn if there are any info I can use to apply to my trading plan. I have my own strategy but I welcome the ideas of others too. I do not immediately buy the coin they are suggesting but I make it as reference to know what coin is trending at the moment and check the chart what price can I possibly enter if I think there is an opportunity.
313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Already lost 50% of my capital on: June 08, 2018, 12:03:45 PM
My advice? I suggest investing in highly rated ICO as when they are on exchanges, the price will pump so hard and you will get back what you have lost

It would still depend then if the coin would be listed immediately, if the team would be active and follow the roadmap and if it is actively communicating to its investors. If there is a bounty campaign for that ICO then most likely the bounty participants would dump their coins upon listing and then you may have to wait for sometime for the price to go back to its ICO price. If you are already well-versed with the ICO market then there is a chance that you would be able to profit from it but if you are new to it and just depend on others then it is still case to case basis if you can profit or not. Besides that, ICO rating sites are not that dependable because some of them are paid.

That is a huge amount of money, i would never  continue trading if i have already lost more than 25% of my entire capital, because it would be an insane loss.. how did you continue?

I lost more than 70% of my capital before being a newbie in trading because I made most likely all the mistakes like panic buying, panic selling, joining pump and dumps, trading base on emotions and buying when the coin is already in high price because of the fear of missing out and end up losing more. I stop for a few months and get back up again because I know that there is still a way and I read more books and watch more videos about trading why others are successful and why I am not so for now, I have a trading plan that I strictly follow and hoping to be consistently profitable.
314  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The best time to take profit in Trading on: June 08, 2018, 03:01:19 AM
I would say that we should set a target of profit percentage like 5 or 10 percent and once the target reached,we should sell our coins and take profits instead of continuously following the price thinking sky as the limit for profit.

I agree with your suggestion especially if you are trading for the short term or trading those sh*tcoins because we don't know if they will be able to recover when bitcoin makes rapid movement again. However, if you are trading or investing for the long term then you should take profit when at least you have 50% profit or double your investment and withdraw your original investment so that you can find again another investment opportunity. The amount left is pure profit so wherever it may go whether it will continue to go up or down, it is still profit but you have to monitor it so that when the buyers are exchausted, you should just sell it all and wait for the next cycle.

That's right but problem is there seem to be a number of crypto traders, especially those without a root in forex trade that think these indicators don't work with cryptocurrencies. No doubt that's blind argument as good knowledge and application of these tools can always aid a trader in reaching well informed trading decisions. I have this preference of using Bollinger Bands in combination with RSI to spot overbought or oversold conditions and then start preparation for possible market reversal.

Some would say that TA doesn't work with crypto because they are used to the movement of the prices in traditional markets but for crypto, its movement is fast so you should adjust your indicators accordingly. Some would say that the movements in crypto in just weeks or months is equivalent to years in traditional market so if you are already familiar with this market then you will know what indicators and strategy can aid you to be a profitable trader.
315  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Reasons Why Many Families Are Feeling Extreme Financial Stress on: June 08, 2018, 02:23:21 AM
Yes, nowadays all the prices are so high, and the inflation combine with global crisis really make things worse, there are not a lot of job opportunities available, some companies prefer to used machine and robot to cut the cost, so earning money become more challenging, and there is no sign this thing is going to end, so just need to work harder and smarter

It's not like we can feign ignorance of the rising prices because it has been affecting our cost of living so the way for us to at least maintain our lifestyle is to find another source of income because it is more likely that the salary is the same but the goods and services that we are paying for are increasing so we either have lower net savings or we may lack funds at all and we have to adjust on our lifestyle. Employers cannot increase the salaries of employees because they even have higher expenses and lower income and they are affected too.

I hope that many people would open their eyes to not depend on a single source of income which is often the salary because if the company he works with laid off employees or go bankrupt then he wouldn't have a job anymore so there is no job security. The solution to this is to have an investment that will generate passive income while working or build a business perhaps. We have to work harder and smarter to survive as we can't prevent inflation.
316  Economy / Economics / Re: A coin issued by some country government - would you go for it? on: June 07, 2018, 01:53:19 AM
The idea of creating a state own crypto currency will not be supported by the people, since the state crypto currency will not be anonymous and will limit users in monetary transactions. The state should implement the already existing crypto-currencies and not resist progress.

Well we have yet to see it. Some countries Like Japan is already planning to implement a state backed cryptocurrency. Even though its backbone is blockchain technology, it is still a centralized currency that is controlled by the government but since it technology will be base on blockchain then it would be more efficient and has less cost than making and circulating the physical coins known as fiat. I would assume that still many people would use it because it is backed by government and it is regulated and people tends to trust more the money backed by government than the existing ones that are decentralized.

If I have no choice but to use it then I'll go with it. Maybe our government would decide that we cannot directly purchase or sell other cryptocurrencies to fiat but instead we should exchange it to their currency so I have to go through it just to have some fiat since it is an undeniable fact that we still need fiat in our lives because cryptocurrency has still limited scope.
317  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading big and quick. on: June 06, 2018, 12:56:33 PM
while surfing the net, i get some pop-ups directing me to the article of persons who claim to have made really big and quick by just predicting the rise and fall of some binary digits (They call it trading). This is the link to the website for predictions - https://olymptrade.com/platform. If you are into it, my question for you is "does it really pay?" also tell me what you think of it.

It is binary options and it is not trading for me but gambling because you are risking a fixed amount for a fixed period of time and if it doesn't go your way then you lose it all unlike when you are trading the traditional way (buy low and sell high), you have the option to not sell the coin and wait for the time you will have profits and then sell it even if it will take some time. I don't suggest trading or gambling this way because you will be too confident if you often win and risk more money which most likely would end up for you losing more. I tried binary options before but I just lose quite a big amount of money because I can't control my emotions.

Do not be too haste in gaining profit OP but instead, focus more on learning and it would even be better if you try trading and then losing because through it, you would learn more what are the aspects you need to develop to be a profitable trader later on. You will only continue to lose though if you don't learn from your losses. Experience is the best teacher for me in trading.
318  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-30] South Korea Is Reportedly Going to Remove the Ban on Initial Coin O on: June 06, 2018, 12:21:45 PM
I hope that the legalization in South Korea of the process of issuing initial coins will occur simultaneously with the establishment of good rules for regulating this ICO process in order to make it more transparent, to exclude or at least reduce the risk of fraud on the part of the ICO teams and protect the rights of investors. Surely, after that, similar processes are activated in other countries. This is very necessary to restore the popularity of ICO, since this type of activity is very necessary.

Yes, that is what is needed. We need a strict regulation for Initial Coin Offerings so that the scammers who are only using ICO as a front would be prevented. If there would be a proper application of ICOs then things like investors being scammed will be prevented. As much as we want the government to be out of the picture because they are dismissing the thought of decentralization, we are not yet ready for it because there is no consensus yet as to how are we going to approach the ICOs on our own if there is no governing body that would control it.
319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Should I just go commit suicide? on: June 06, 2018, 02:32:04 AM
Don't be affected to the price because for sure it will increase again the price and you will get you back your capital. Look the price is $600 right now and I think this month the price will become $1000-$2000 so if that happen you will get your capital plus your money will become 2 times upto 3* just need to be patient and your goal will be reach in the future.

Speaking of the OP, I hope he is still alive. He seems to lose hope because he posted again a week ago about ETH not going back to $1,000 levels. When bitcoin go back up again, we know the trend that other coins will go back up too most likely and one of those coins is ETH. As what the chartists are saying, we are heading for the bull run so for OP, you shouldn't lose hope that you would lose the $25,000 investment on ETH because most likely, you will have profits this year. When there is a bull run, the coins prices move exponentially so most likely you would get it in a few months and don't forget to take profits when that happens and just play with your profits withdrawing your original investment.

We only have one life and you still have a chance to get that money again even with profits so just hold on and don't lose hope. Cryptocurrency market is still in its infancy compared to other traditional markets and the adoption rate is still so low so time will come when more people adopt crypto and us, the early adopters of it will have profit and may even increase the value of our holdings to at least 5x or 10x.
320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: scammers in bounty programs; what do they deserve? on: June 06, 2018, 01:57:05 AM
certainly any kind of fraud is very harmful to the development of the crypto-currency community and creates additional mistrust on the part of people and officials, it is necessary to fight with scammers and not give them the opportunity to earn in this place

There are more scammers now using the account of other people because they cannot just easily rank up. In bounty programs that accept thousand of bounty hunters, there are pretty much scammers right there more often than not and the bounty hunters and managers should help each other in monitoring the spreadsheets to detect those scammers. The high rank accounts are often use by those scammers with different address and they take a chance that they will be the one who will be paid instead of the original owner of the account. It's hard to monitor the scammers but if we help each other in spotting them then it would be a big help.

I think scammers in bounties should be given a negative trust or should be bound from joining bounties. This process will help reduce the rate of scam because most managers do not accept participant with negative trust in their campaign.

Giving red trust is one of the solution but what if the owner of the account do not have any intention of scamming anyone but instead his account was used by someone so this is not the solution to all kind of cases. The solution would be to post a proof of authentication with the profile of the owner of the account. Some bounty managers are already doing it upon filling up the form but for those who didn't implement it yet, I hope they will do so to lessen the scammers.
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