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1321  Economy / Economics / Re: Will people ever get tired of trading bitcoin? on: October 20, 2023, 09:09:40 AM
As long as there's money to be made, people will not get tired of trading bitcoin, or any cryptocurrency for that matter. "Why would you get tired of making money anyway?" is what they will be asking you when you tell them that stuff lol.
You're right. As long as people can take profits from trading Bitcoin, they have no reason to feel tired. People only feel tired and stop when they no longer get money from trading Bitcoin. Toward the bullrun season, I assume people will be more often to trade Bitcoin. It is because Bitcoin price tends to be easier to predict because it mostly increases gradually. It will be different when the bullrun season is over, people may stop temporarily because the price will tend to drop constantly.

-snip- due to its volatile nature you're basically earning a lot of stuff from investing in bitcoin, let alone trading it. These reasons alone are good enough for anyone to just keep trading bitcoin regardless of whether they are tired or not.
Yes, the high volatility of Bitcoin make the price easily increasing or decreasing. People doesn't need to wait for a long time to take profits, they can trade Bitcoin and earn money in a short time. However, it requires good knowledge to know trading Bitcoin properly. If we trade Bitcoin carelessly, we may not get the profits but to lose money. The volatility doesn't only to increase the price, it also makes the price to drop quickly. 

If people continue to trade Bitcoin, it indicates they never feel tired. Normally, people will stop immediately when they feel tired.

1322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Where to invest 7k usdt on: October 19, 2023, 11:59:08 PM
It is not wise to expect specific amount when investing in so much volatile market ,
though it is possible yet ? only frustration and sadness will come your way.
It is actually not really clear why OP expected to get profits $30 daily on the long term investment. It is difficult to count daily profits, it is also unnecessary because we have no intention to sell in a short time. I agree with you that we don't need to set a certain profit daily, specifically for a long term holding. It just makes it too complicated.

why not less your expectation and only invest the money that you can keep for long term?
but if you mean by making food for the table on daily basis thats why you wanted tto invest here then that is a red flag, assurance cannot be generate in crypto investing , not unless you are part of manipulating team that has a large percentage of making money.
There is no problem if someone has a big expectation for the long term investment. As long as it is realistic (make sense), it is okay. However, make sure that we know well the time to take profits. We must understand how long to keep the coins. Since it should take a long time, it doesn't make sense for expecting profits in daily basis. It is an investment, we set a goal for taking profits after few years.

1323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 19, 2023, 11:53:49 PM
Even if Jude is the best player in the world, still counting on one palyer is not good for a team like Real Madrid to rely on one player and hope to see him score goals because Bellingham can get injured and be absent for any reason in the next games for Real Madrid. That's why I think Real Madrid will have problems in the harder games they have in the Champions League.
Agree. Relying on one player isn't a good idea, it will be easy for the opponent to destroy Ancelotti's tactic. Moreover, Bellingham isn't a striker, he actually isn't in an ideal position to contribute for many goals. Real Madrid must order all their attackers to play more aggressively, so all of them can have the same chance to score goals. If all Real Madrid attackers become very productive in scoring goals, the opponent will be difficult to destroy the tactic. On the other hand, it will be no problem when Bellingham can't perform as expected. It is because other attackers have the same chance for making the difference in the match.

When the two sides meet,we would see which team is stronger,and I can go on to say that Arsenal are one of the best teams in the premier league for now,and if I am rating it in the world's stage,I will say Arsenal stands third or fourth in the world's ranking of the best teams at the moment.
It is true that Arsenal is very strong now. But I think Man City is still the most strongest team in EPL. Although Arsenal is leading the EPL standings, but I assume Man City still has a bigger chance to win UCL trophy.

1324  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 19, 2023, 11:44:40 PM
Maybe they were hoping for the marketing effect only, but what kind of marketing effect can Neymar have when he is injured for dozens of games and can't show up on the pitch? It is a totally different story when you have someone like Cristiano Ronaldo to impress the global audience with his great games and goals and although he was more expensive, at least he is available and playing and people can enjoy his presence in the league. I really doubt that Neymar can have any similar effect for the benefit of the Saudi Professional League. PSG tried the same when they bought him for a lot of money and he became quite hated after all.
It doesn't make sense if Al Hilal signed Neymar for the marketing purpose only. If Neymar never contributed anything to the club, how he can bring impact for the marketing. Neymar can't rely on his big name only, there are already many big names in Saudi Pro League. Ideally, Neymar must follow what Ronaldo already did to his club. Ronaldo played well, he contributed much for winning the matches and improves the attentions of the fans. It is something that Neymar can't do if he only sits on the bench or he takes a rest at home. So, I assume Al Hilal probably consider to sack him if there is no significant improvement on this injured problem.

He just played 3 times for the matches of SPL. It is very unfortunate if he must take a rest until the second half of the season. It is getting worse if the injured problem looks to last a longer time and takes time until the end of the season.

1325  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 19, 2023, 11:32:18 PM
Xavi didn't rely on one player to win the match, but Lewandowski was the player who actually played a role in scoring the goal. Lewandowski in recent matches has not been in the best form like last season, but other players Joao Felix, Joao Cancelo and his midfielders can provide the difference that allows Barcelona to avoid defeat.
It is true, Xavi never relies on a single player to win the match. However, he can't deny that Lewandowski has a big role to increase the chance for scoring goals. We can see a decrease of Barcelona goal productivity when Lewandowski couldn't score goals in the match or when he gets injured. Although other players can make goals, but it won't be as many as when Lewandowski plays in his best level.

Lewandowski is the only center forward that Barcelona currently has, of course the team's performance is disrupted when he is absent because Xavi has to play a different strategy so that the team's performance is stable. However, the impact on the game and overall plan will be different between having Lewandowski in the main line-up and not having him. I hope his injury heals as expected and he can take part in the upcoming El Clasico.
No, Barcelona doesn't only has Lewandowski for a CF position. João Félix and Ferran Torres also can plan as a CF (center forward). But we must admit that a pure CF is only Lewandowski. And the most productive CF is only Lewandowski. So, it is a big lose if Lewandowski can't play in the next El Clasico. I personally think he will play even if he still doesn't fit 100%.

1326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Should I invest in new projects. on: October 19, 2023, 11:14:59 PM
Honestly, there is no wrong about investing in new projects as long as it has a use case but yes, the risk is too high compared to those old projects that have already been established well. In fact, we're giving some room for these new projects but I'm suggesting spending just a small amount and never holding it for long because many new projects are just good in their early days but they change and start to decline after a while. In the end, a better choice seems to be a working idea especially if we plan for long-term investment.
True. It is okay to invest in new projects if the new projects have the criteria of good projects. We only need to avoid the new projects with weak fundamentals, they projects that seem difficult to survive a long time. It is because many new projects only last few months, then they are gone after the teams got enough funds from investors. It is different with established projects that already survived for years. They will have a big chance to last a long time because people already trust on them. That's why we can see the coins of established projects having big market caps. This makes the risk to be smaller, moreover if the projects always updates the development of the projects.

1327  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are We Need Satoshi? on: October 18, 2023, 11:59:24 PM
Well I have been talking about this alot so lately. And I do think it is now a topic we are all talking about is cause of the recent 'satoshi' spotting on twitter.
It is clearly Faketoshi, Craig Wright who is controlled the Satoshi twitter.
Real Satoshi won't do something ridiculous. If we learned what he posted when he was still active in this forum, he always posted something valuable.

But if we are being honest here then no I do not think we satoshi. He has already been a honorable man for what he did for Bitcoin. And this is not something that any one can ever take away from him or his legacy.
Indeed. Satoshi will be always Satoshi, no one can replace him. He will remain the only person who created Bitcoin forever.

However, Bitcoin is owned by many people now. And Bitcoin keep growing although Satoshi has disappeared. That makes people think that we don't need Satoshi anymore. It is not about the legacy of Bitcoin or the creator status of Bitcoin, but it is about the role of Satoshi to keep the existence of Bitcoin. People think without Satoshi, Bitcoin has no problem to survive and to keep growing.

1328  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 18, 2023, 11:49:16 PM
This is a bad news for Al Ahli Hilal, Neymar has suffered serious injury again. Even, in that match Brazil was defeated by Uruguay, Vini, Rodrygo, Gabriel Jesus could not scored at least one score. Of course, with Neymar injury Al Hilal will suffer huge losses. As you said, Neymar's injury has an impact on his current club, apart from the large salary, they also lost one player in attack line. But the next few of matches are not too difficult for them, only the match against Al Ahli will probably be their biggest difficulty game this month.
Sure, it is bad news. Al Hilal no longer can put him on the lineup, Neymar will take a rest for few weeks/months. I still don't get a valid information related to how long Neymar to be absent. But since it's a recurring injury, it must take a long time to recover. It probably takes few months, Neymar will be unavailable a long time.

Well, Al Hilal paid him with a big salary, it is very unfortunate if Neymar mostly spend time with injured problem. However, I think Al Hilal management already know well this risk because Neymar often gets injured for a long time since he was in PSG. The absence of Neymar seems to have no significant impact, Al Hilal has enough players to replace him.

1329  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 18, 2023, 11:37:31 PM
I would never compare Spalletti with a coach like Rudi Garcia because we know Spalletti is a wise man and when other teams in Serie A had unstable situations Spalletti used the opportunity he got in Napoli and that's how he won the Serie A title with this team but Garcia doesn't even have a good experience and he got fired in the last team he was working on it. I think Napoli could hire a much better coach instead of Rudi Garcia.
Spalletti isn't only a wise man, he is a smart coach. It was not easy to build a team like Napoli but Spalletti showed the people that he succeed with Napoli. Before Spalletti managed Napoli, there are no Napoli players who are very popular. Most the players of Napoli are just average players. But Spalletti build them to be strong players and be famous players now. It is very different with Rudi Garcia, I didn't know that he has a great story to build a team previously. Also, Spalletti has won varied trophies in Italy, meanwhile Rudi Garcia only won no trophy in Italy. So, Rudi Garcia has no experience to win a title in Serie A so far. According to this mater, it is difficult to expect Rudi Garcia to manage Napoli better than Spalletti.

1330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 18, 2023, 11:21:41 PM
El Clasico matches are always difficult to predict, but every team playing at home probably has an advantage that can be exploited. Barcelona is playing at home, so they should be able to use their home advantage to win El Clasico.
No, playing at home can't guarantee the win. It is El Clasico, playing at home won't impact anything. If you learned the stats of El Clasico, there are many wins got from the team who played away. Playing at home sometimes gives a bigger pressure, so it influences the morale/mentality of the players, they can't enjoy the match.

Several of Barcelona's main players have not been convinced to appear in El Clasico, including Lewandowski, De Jong, Raphinha and Pedri. Real Madrid has superior squad depth if the 4 Barcelona players are declared absent, but Barcelona is a team that is also difficult to predict because their mentality is getting better.
Barcelona has 7 injured players, Real Madrid has 3 injured players. Sure, Real Madrid has the advantage, the have more available players. But the result can't be determined by this thing, the match still can be unpredictable. Sometimes, the substituted players can surprise everyone because they have more motivation to show their best to compete for the regular position on the lineup.

1331  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apakah Bitcoin Akan Sepopuler Ini Jika Satoshi Masih Ada? on: October 18, 2023, 11:11:30 PM
Saya pikir juga satoshi tidak akan melakukan hal itu. Tetapi jika ada orang yang bisa memanipulasi harga bitcoin, maka orang itu adalah satoshi dengan bitcoin sebanyak 1 juta keping
Satoshi jelas tidak akan melakukannya, itu sama saja dengan menghancurkan trust orang-orang yang selama ini percaya kepada Bitcoin. Jika sampai Satoshi melakukannya, maka kemungkinan banyak orang bakal exit dari investasi Bitcoin (terutama investor besar). Mengenai kemungkinan manipulasi harga, tidak hanya Satoshi yang bisa melakukannya. Whales punya kemampuan untuk memanipulasi harga, mereka juga punya BTC dalam jumlah besar meski tidak sebanyak yang dimiliki Satoshi.

Kalau menurut saya, kemungkinan satoshi memang sudah tidak ada atau mungkin satoshi bukan sosok orang 1, melainkan kelompok.Soalnya bisa kuat banget gitu menjaga kerahasiaanya dan tidak tergoda menjual bitcoinnya, kalo di jual pasti jadi orang yang sangat kaya, kebanyakan orang sulit menahan diri dari "kekayaan" tapi satoshi bisa, atau mungkin karena dia memang sudah tidak ada
Terkait hal ini, kita hanya bisa sekedar menduga-duga. Sulit untuk menyimpulkan Satoshi itu 1 orang atau lebih dari 1 orang. Yang pasti, Satoshi jelas akan terus menjaga kerahasiaannya karena itu terkait dengan keberlangsungan Bitcoin itu sendiri. Sedangkan mengapa dia tetap keep Bitcoinnya, itu karena Satoshi tidak ingin menghilangkan trust orang-orang dan menjaga harga Bitcoin.

Kalau misalkan Satoshi mau memanipulasi harga Bitcoin semisal dengan menukarnya ke uang fiat itu sama saja dia meruntuhkan konsep awal Bitcoin yang dia rintis.
Benar. Selain itu, aksi memanipulasi harga dari penciptanya sendiri berarti mencoreng nama baik BTC dan menghilangkan trust orang-orang. Dampak lainnya jika dia mentransfer Bitcoinnya, bisa jadi itu titik awal dari pihak yang berwenang untuk menelusuri identitasnya.

1332  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [LOG] List Rank Up Member Indonesia (Member - Legendary) on: October 18, 2023, 10:27:28 PM
Terima kasih banyak atas ucapan dari semua teman-teman SFI. Semoga sukses juga untuk kalian semua, bagi yan belum naik rank supaya lebih cepat naik ranknya.  Smiley

Saya selalu berpikir ini semua bisa terwujud karena dukungan dari semua teman-teman SFI. Selain itu, dukungan dari orang-orang hebat seperti @dbshck, @Husna QA, @Ratimov, @DdmrDdmr, @hugeblack, dan masih banyak lagi yang lainnya. Saya sangat berterima kasih atas dukungan dari semuanya.

Saya berharap saya bisa sampai ke rank selanjutnya meskipun pasti akan butuh waktu lebih lama. Saya akan berusaha untuk meningkatkan lagi kualitas post saya dan keaktifan di forum. Saya kira teman-teman yang lain pun demikian.  Smiley

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1335  Other / Archival / Re: [Merit] Help newbies and those who have a little left to the next rank on: October 15, 2023, 01:31:47 PM
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Accepted  Smiley
Congratulations on your Hero Member rank. Good Luck  Wink
Thank you so much.  Smiley
I'm so happy, I finally managed to achieve it.

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1337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 12, 2023, 11:59:30 PM
Napoli is back become a mediocre club, as long as Rudi Garcia is still their manager, I think it's a good time to bet on Napoli's opponent because Napoli will always been favorite by the sportsbook. Yeah there are many news spreading if Antonio Conte will become Napoli's manager.
You're right. Rudi Garcia makes Napoli to be weaker, they are no longer a tough team. If Rudi Garcia stays in Napoli, I'm not optimistic that Napoli can finish in UCL zone this season. They probably won't join UCL again in the next season. And it may trigger the top players of Napoli to consider moving to other top teams.

The current rumor, Napoli wants to hire Conte to replace Rudi Garcia. But I heard that Conte prefers to enjoy his life now without managing any club. It means Napoli needs to get another manager. Conte may be not interested in managing Napoli, or he still doesn't want to manage any team now.

I think that perez will not be rushing to determine which was the guy will be trusted to manage the club after ancellotti will join in brazil national team.
I hope that if real madrid will able to get the best choice and my best candidates for that job are

Xabi
Zidane

I don't see another strong candidate to be a new appointment for real madrid soon. Those names are best choices for madrid.
Zidane is the best candidate. But we don't know if Zidane is interested to manage again Real Madrid. Zidane is quite difficult to predict, he often refuse the offer from top clubs. Real Madrid president must convince him with an interesting reason if Zidane wants to consider accepting Real Madrid offer. I'm sure if Real Madrid succeeds to sign Mbappe, Zidane has a chance to manage again Real Madrid.

For Xabi, I think he is too early to manage Real Madrid. He is better to stay in his current team.  Wink


1338  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 12, 2023, 11:41:36 PM
Just after four months of playing at Aston Villa, Youri Tielemans wants to leave the team. He left Leicester and joined Aston Villa but this 26-year-old palyer couldn't have too much chance in Aston Villa to prove himself and so far in this season he played in eight games for Aston Villa but he was never in the first squad and that's why he doesn't have a good relationship with the coach of Aston Villa and he wants to leave during the winter.
I can understand if Youri Tielemans feels uncomfortable at Aston Villa. When he decided to accept Aston Villa offer, he expected to be the main player there. I fact, he never became the main player and just played from the bench. There are many other top teams that still want him, it makes Tielemans considering for leaving Aston Villa. If Aston Villa doesn't plan to put Tielemans  on the main lineup, I think they are better to sell him. Tielemans has the right to join another EPL team to have a better career. Arsenal seems a good option, Arsenal can have duo Rice-Tielemans. This can be a future of Arsenal midfielders because they are still quite young.

1339  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you ever feel tired of waiting? on: October 12, 2023, 11:25:12 PM
To be honest, I've had this question for quite a while. I keep seeing people claiming to just hold and hold; it'll take one, two, three, or whatever years for the next bull market. However, I'm often wondering: do you ever feel tired of waiting for Bitcoin to thrive? The past few months, or the whole past year—I'm not sure I've lost track of time—have been quite stale. Bitcoin has been ranging between $25.000 and $28.000 for quite a while. The volatility compared to other periods is lower than we're used to, or at least, to what I was used to in the past.
People who knows and experienced the previous bullrun seasons, won't claim it with no reason. Holding 1, 2, 3, 4 years depends on when they bought their Bitcoin. Why people must feel tired if they know the bullrun season will come in 2024-2025. I think they are very enthusiastic now since it won't be a long time to see the next bullrun season. Although Bitcoin price is still around $26k-$28k, it will increase gradually toward the end of this year. It is surely a prediction only, but people must feel optimistic when they learn the previous history of bullrun season.

I sometimes felt tired, to be honest. I sometimes lost my patience and sold myself emotionally. But not now; I have improved my knowledge and experience day by day. Now I invest only what I can afford to hold for longer. So I shouldn't sell at any point.
I'm surprised you state it. I guess a person at your level, will never feel tired.  Smiley
Agree. As long as we only invest in the amount that we afford to invest, we won't hurry to wait for the selling time. It will feel very long time if we use loan money or our main money. It is because we need to secure the money as quick as possible. We know it will bother our life if we fail.

1340  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Akun X satoshi ? on: October 12, 2023, 11:03:07 PM

dan bertuliskan "The mystery of Who I am will be revealed with lots of evidence in the year 2024"
waduh mantab ini apa yang bakalan di keluarin  oleh akun ini di tahun 2024
Itu gaya bahasanya jelas seperti bukan pemilik asli akun tersebut.
Kalau itu yang nulis real Satoshi, saya yakin redaksinya tidak akan seperti itu. Masa iya Satoshi yang selama ini menyembunyikan identitasnya sekarang seperti menarik atensi orang-orang untuk tau identitasnya di tahun 2024. Apalagi sampe menekankan proof/evidance supaya benar-benar dipercaya orang-orang. Padahal Satoshi yang kita tau lebih suka anonim, desentralisasi, atau kebebasan. Hal-hal yang jauh dari keinginan untuk diakui orang-orang. Secara logika, cuman fake Satoshi yang ingin mendapat pengakuan kalau dia Satoshi. Menurut saya, itu 100% fake Satoshi yang nulis.

Kita lihat bukti apa saja yang ingin ditunjukkannya nanti.
Saya yakin tidak akan ada bukti baru. Paling cuman claim yang dulu pernah dilakukan oleh Craig Wright.  Grin

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