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1601  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 03, 2023, 11:59:08 PM
Chelsea again had to bite their fingers after their bid for Vlahovic was rejected by Juventus. I think Chelsea have really had an unlucky rally in signings where Victor osimhen also turned down their offers and it was really bad luck for Chelsea. Chelsea made a €60 million bid for Juventus to sign Vlahovic but that figure is far from what Juventus wanted.

Now for juventus they have got Weah who was brought in recently and it is certain he is the right signing which allegri is doing to add strength to them for next season. Weah is no stranger to Serie A, I think he will quickly adapt to the Juventus squad next season. Vlahovic still really wants to stay with Juventus for next season so he asked the management not to sell him in this transfer window.
The current market value of Vlahovic is about €70 million. I can understand if Juventus rejected Chelsea bid, it is still below the market value. Juventus probably consider Chelsea offer if it is above €80 million. I guess Juventus wants €90 - €100 million for Vlahovic transfer fees. Moreover, Vlahovic is Juventus main striker, Juventus prefers to defend him than selling him now.

Weah is a new winger for Juventus squad, his main position is a right winger. It is a nice signing since Juventus has no good right winger. Chiesa - Weah can be a great combination for Juventus wingers in the next season. Vlahovic can get a better supports from wingers, so he can be more productive. This can be the reason for Vlahovic to stay for a more season in Juventus.

1602  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: July 03, 2023, 11:51:42 PM
I came across an article How Old Do You Have to Be to Gamble in USA?. In this article, i saw that the minimum age to gamble is between 18 to 21 years. I wonder if the online casino do follow this minimum age for gambling.
It is true that commonly the minimum age for gambling is 18+. Someone is considered mature enough when he is already 18+.
I'm sure that most online casinos are trying to follow this age minimum. But the gambler can falsify his data, he can use his parent ID to pass KYC on the casino sites.

Yes, the gambling sites have our age data through the KYC documents. Do they ever restrict anyone who is underage to not to gamble?
Also, if we find any site allowing minors to gamble, can legal action be taken against them?
Casino sites can strict the KYC procedure. But there is always a chance for fake data. It is something difficult to do by the casino sites. Even if they use a live KYC procedure to validate the data, a smart one can always know how to manipulate it. Well, a live KYC may be the best way to eliminate underage. I don't think any other ways to deal with this matter.

1603  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do not limits your investment... on: July 03, 2023, 11:38:13 PM
Investing in shitcoins and hoping for the best is not precisely a strategy that can be used to obtain good results over the long term, your friend was lucky and that is it, now if you were to ask your friend about this I doubt they will admit it, as people like to think that whatever positive outcomes they get are because of their qualities and virtues, but this is a clear case in which this is not true, as there are many people like your friend which lost everything when they invested in shitcoins.
Agree. Investing in shitcoins is always too risky, most of shitcoins end up with scams or have no value. His friend is just lucky that he can take profits from the shitcoins and can convert the profits to Bitcoin. However, I am sure his friend may get a different result if he invests again in shitcoins now. The chance to take profits on shitcoins is very low, we don't follow that his friend ever did.

For the long term investment, it is always recommended to choose top coins, especially Bitcoin or Ethereum. The price movement of these coins are clearer than any other coins, the always have the same scheme in each 4 years cycle. And these coins have strong fundamentals that become the main requirement for a long term holding.

1604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Stablecoin for bitcoin on: July 03, 2023, 11:22:34 PM
I see in this forum that many disagree with the concept of fiat money. But if we look at the price of bitcoin, most people like it when the price of bitcoin goes up. This means bitcoin is inseparable and independent as a currency without considering fiat dollars. At this point, bitcoin is considered an asset
People hates fiats because it is fully controlled by the government and its physical actually has no value. People may disagree fiats but people support that we still need physical money.

Bitcoin value is compared with fiats. Sure, Bitcoin can't stand alone now, not everywhere it can be used as a currency. In my country, it is only used for a digital asset. It may stand alone when it is accepted as a payment tool in every place in the world.

With so many stablecoins for fiat dollars, bitcoin cannot break away from dollars. Maybe if you want to support bitcoin more and have bitcoin as the main base, is it possible to create a stablecoin for bitcoin?
What for stablecoin for Bitcoin?
I don't think we need more stablecoins, it is just another form of altcoins. The use of the coin will be the same at the end.

I haven't seen a stablecoin project for bitcoin yet. Maybe if there was a stablecoin for bitcoin then bitcoin would be considered the main currency in crypto and the price would be considered stable
You must know that no coin has a really stable in price. Even it is a stablecoin, the price can change a bit. But the change isn't as significant as common coins. Anyway, I doubt if we can have a main currency in crypto besides Bitcoin. Only Bitcoin that has a capability to be the main coin.

1605  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2024 will determined bitcoin fate on: July 03, 2023, 11:04:21 PM
What can happened in 2024 will surely be a part of is exciting history but it will surely not be a make or break one.
What do you mean?
If you mean bullrun or bullish to happen in 2024, it is likely to happen. So far, it never failed, bullish season always happened after the halving. But when BTC to hits a new ATH, no one really knows it. It can be in 2024 or in 2025, it may depend on the situation on the market or the news around crypo/BTC.

Surely, 2023 is the best year to accumulate Bitcoin though of course one has to be always mindful of the risks involve.
2022 should be the best time to buy or collect more Bitcoin. You must remember that BTC even dropped to $17k in 2022. Since the early of 2023, BTC price has increased a bit, it raises to $19k-$20k. If someone wants to accumulate Bitcoin as many as possible, it should be the ideal time in 2022. You already missed the best time to buy if you just plan to buy now. However, it is not too late since BTC price is still at a cheap rate.

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1608  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: June 26, 2023, 11:55:37 PM
Iya betul pas saya cek memang di forum sedang hangat tentang diskusi binance vs SEC jadi saya mau masuk jadi ragu. Saya pikir 23k bisa tembus. Eh malah sudah terbang jauh
Sebenarnya ini bukan pertama kalinya Binance kena masalah seperti ini, dan SEC tidak hanya baru kali ini mempermasalahkan platform-platform crypto besar. Berkaca dari kasus-kasus sebelumnya, isu-isu seperti ini hanyalah ibarat FUDs yang numpang lewat. Buktinya imbas ke market cryptonya cuman terjadinya hanya dalam hitungan minggu, setelah itu market crypto recovery kembali. Kalau pada saat FUDs nya lagi kencang, bahkan orang-orang berspekulasi harga BTC bisa kembali turun di bawah $20k.

Apakah perseteruan antara binance dan SEC sudah selesai gan kok bitcoin bisa terbang tiba-tiba gitu? atau ada berita bagus yang lain yang membuat harga bitcoin naik dengan signifikan?
Belum selesai, karena prosesnya pasti panjang. Agan bisa lihat salah satu contohnya yaitu dengan XRP, sudah bertahun-tahun masih juga belum ada kejelasan progresnya. Saya kadang berpikir bahwa hal semacam ini hanyalah isu FUDs settingan yang sengaja dibuat untuk membuat harga BTC up atau down. Untuk berita bagusnya, US berencana ikut-ikutan bikin exchange sendiri.

1609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XLM - yes or no? on: June 26, 2023, 11:45:27 PM
Hi,

I am looking for a new position to start DCA into while prices are low and thinking of XLM.
I did it in previous bearish era, but the target was not fulfilled in the bullish era previously.
XLM is actually a  solid altcoin with good prospect as always. they also have string fundamental and team developers. But, honestly, this is now not my favorite coin because the progress is very slow. We can see many altcoins could rise up significantly with high potential. But this coin, this has potential, but was not significantly rising up as others.
1610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Recommend me altcoin to DCA till halving on: June 26, 2023, 11:42:50 PM
I am aware that DCA is better in a coin you know will last somehow long depending on how long you have to DCA.
DCA is the only means that is easy for me to buy coins. Which altcoin can you recommend for me to start DCAing till  halving when the bull run is expected.
I am afraid , that before bull run such coin might have problems. I don't want coins above $100, so that it will be possible to run on good profits if the investment works.
DCA in altcoins may be risky because not all altcoins may have good chances to survive and then rise up passing their previous ATH as previous bullish season. so, you must basically understand about the risks.
If you are willing to have some altcoins, never do in meme coins or hype coins.
I am personally doing it to prefer to some top coins, Ethereum is the best choice. hen, I am also considering ADA, Matic, and SOL. Bu it is only limited, not the high one because I focus more on Bitcoin that is more promising.
1611  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Better to have a trading knowledge than depending on signals. on: June 26, 2023, 11:34:41 PM
Trading in crypto could be a difficult task that not so many persons involved in trading do actually make the kind of profits people assume that traders might be making when compared to investors that are only into HODLing. As a crypto trader a lot of serial capacity building in knowledge is needed on a daily as it is a necessity for sufficient and profitable crypto trading journey.......
Ideally yes, of course before we do anything, especially trading that is indeed high risk, we must have a good understanding first. Understanding of trading is complex, not only on what coins, but also various analysis on market charts, fundamental analysis, and so on. Also, this includes an understanding of how to manage our emotions, risks and funds for trading.
Learning indicators and how the market is always moving is also necessary. So that at least we have the provisions to carry out this high risk trading activity. So, if you're not ready, it's better to study first.
regarding trading signals, in fact, this can be used as an aid for analysis, not for the only thing that is followed. So it can be for consideration and also ideas for in-depth analysis.
1612  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: If I have 1BTC So how did I use to invest in different Coins on: June 26, 2023, 11:29:45 PM
If you are a long term investor then no need to taken others coin and still hold btc but just sold your profits, if you need to money. You can believe old coin which they have staking and others rewards programme. But don’t invest quickly in new project because there lot of risky now.
Sometimes people want to have another coin, they don't think it is enough to hold Bitcoin only. I think it is no problem to have another coin but it doesn't mean to sell the existing Bitcoin. He is better to buy an altcoin if he has an extra money, don' sell his Bitcoin. Anyway, what profits to sell? Do you mean sell some Bitcoin that is enough for claiming profits? I don't think it is a good idea, the number of his Bitcoin will be decreasing constantly in this way. I assume he is better to hold all the Bitcoin until the next bullrun season.

Sure, investing in a new project is very risky. It is not recommended to invest in a new project, better to choose old top projects only.

1613  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How useful is Bitcoin to the youth? on: June 26, 2023, 11:20:32 PM
My own understanding is that the youth who are educated should be familiar with bitcoin because you can't just decide to teach a youth who is not educated about bitcoin or get him involved in cryptocurrency if they are not aware of it before. They might perceive it as a fraud or that you are trying to scam them. Even if we want to get the youth like us involved in bitcoin, we should make sure they have knowledge of it.
Not all educated youth are familiar with Bitcoin, some youth may be more interested in real things. So, they never know something like Bitcoin. But since most youth are familiar enough with internet or digital space, they will be easier to learn Bitcoin. Now, it depends on the status of Bitcoin or crypto in their country. If Bitcoin or crypto is legal, they probably will learn it confidently. While if it is illegal, the youth will avoid learning it because they are worried to get a trouble with the regulations.

In my country, people a bit worried to learn Bitcoin or crypto because there are still many FUDs. It is illegal to be a payment tool here, but it is legal as a digital asset. I'm sure when it is totally legal, the youth will be more interested in Bitcoin/crypto.

1614  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: June 26, 2023, 11:13:11 PM
He is a top striker but I expected him to stay in Europe for at least a year or two. Since so many clubs are currently looking for a striker and Real Madrid even signed Joselu as a backup plan, Firmino would have been a much better choice in my opinion. But no matter what any European club would have offered him, if he wants to make big money the SPL is the way to go now and that is what he decided to do. But in terms of his quality he could have stayed in Europe without problems.
Agree. I also expect him to stay in Europe because he still performed well. He just doesn't get enough time to play, he mostly sit on the bench. In the current transfer window, I really expect Real Madrid to sign him but Real Madrid prefers to sign Joselu. I don't know why Real Madrid doesn't want to sign this player, he is actually suitable with Real Madrid. I'm sure Firmino's salary isn't a problem for Real Madrid, he shouldn't ask for big salary. Sure, Arab clubs will offer bigger salary for him, but the competition in Europe is better than SPL competition.

1615  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 26, 2023, 10:52:22 PM
And I don't think anyone reasonably expects from Pochettino at the head of Chelsea mandatory trophies already this season. For the club, the most important thing now is to push off from the bottom and the nightmarish 12th place where the team found itself in the Premier League and remained outside the European Cup zone. Therefore, the struggle for a place in the Champions League and the late stages of the type of semi-finals of the English cups, I think, would suit the owners of the club at the end of this season.
Indeed. Chelsea management mustn't target for the trophy, but they must expect to be on the top 5 again. It is not easy to return on the top 5 in EPL because there are many strong teams, even Newcastle and Brighton become strong teams currently. Pochettino needs a stronger squad if he wants Chelsea to return to its ideal position, Chelsea should be in Europa league zone at least.

Pochettino immediately kicked out five players, starting from Kante, Hakim Ziyech, Kalidou Koulibaly, Edouard Mendy and Mateo Kovacic as the first step in building a team according to the players he wanted. Chelsea transfer policy indicates that it will carry out a major overhaul in the transfer market this summer.
How Pochettino kicked those players makes me worried about Chelsea future. Those players who left Chelsea are good players, I don't know why they should be leaving Chelsea. For me, transfer policy made by Chelsea, indicates they still don't understand what the weaknesses of this team exactly. Chelsea don't know how to build their squad with proper players.

1616  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Altcoin yang Jadi Pesaing Utama Bitcoin on: June 25, 2023, 11:59:23 PM
Kalau masalah persaingan, tentu BTC sudah tidak ada lawannya hingga saat ini. Cuma masalahnya sekarang ini banyak yang masih mengharapkan altcoin tertentu menggeser hegemoni BTC. Mungkin tidak begitu masive, kalau perkiraanku mereka mengharapkan altcoin yang masih mereka pegang balik lagi ke harga tertinggi, Ini masih kutemui dibeberapa sosmed, beberapa hodler altcoin saat ini mengharapkan harga BTC stuck dulu di $30K, atau jangan naik dulu deh, cukup sampai di angka tersebut, soalnya mereka mengharapkan ada altcoin session di fase harga tersebut. Kalau sudah altcoin session, tentu harga altcoin bisa naik berapa x lipat dari harga btc. Opitnya jelas lebih seksi dong dibanding pegang BTC.
Altcoin apa yang diharapkan menggeser BTC, gan? Apa yang dimaksud ETH?
Kalau di sosmed ada yang bilang ETH atau altcoins tertentu mau menggeser BTC, kemungkina mereka itu mencoba bikin hype altcoin tersebut. Sejauh yang saya tau, tidak banyak isu terkait ini di global, jadi mungkin cuman bahan obrolan di channel sosmed tertentu.

BTC sudah lama stuck sebelumnya, dulu sempat lama tertahan di kisaran $26,000-$27,000. Saya rasa ini saatnya BTC bergerak dulu untuk bertahap ke $35k dan membuat titik resisten baru. Altcoin season juga seharusnya terjadi setelah bullishnya Bitcoin, masih jauh waktunya gan. Bitcoin saja masih belum halving, masa iya altcoin season lebih dulu.

1617  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: June 25, 2023, 11:55:56 PM
Wak kaget saya liat harga BTC sudah $30.5k. Padahal kalo ga salah terahir lihat masih di harga 25k. Ini beneran ada proyeksi ATH lagi gan? Apakah masih sanggup naik sampai 35k gan dalam waktu dekat? tolong analisanya.. ada sedikit uang tapi tidak terlalu dingin.. pas 25k udah mau masuk tapi ragu. nunggu 23k. eh malah udah ke 30k aja... duh
Agan cek harga BTC kapan?
Sudah beberapa hari ini BTC sudah stabil di atas $30k, bahkan sudah sempat melewati $31k kemaren. Memang dulu sempat stuck di $26,000-$27,000. Itu mungkin karena sempat beredar isu negatif terkait SEC vs Binance dan beberapa platform crypto lainnya.

Tentu sangat bisa naik ke $35k, tapi mungkin tidak dalam beberapa hari ke depan. Apalagi mau hari raya, biasanya harga cenderung turun. Mungkin dalam 1 bulan ke depan bisa saja sudah di kisaran $35,000-$40,000 kalau banyak berita-berita positif terkait BTC dan crypto.

Kalau mau entry, mending nunggu harga turun dulu. Rasanya masih bisa turun ke $28k kalau ada FUDs lagi.

1618  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your personal debt reduction method aside the debt snowball method? on: June 25, 2023, 11:49:10 PM
Considering we all have different amounts of income and different amounts of debt, its not going to be that easy to find that is valid for all of us at the same time. I know that it looks like its possible but its not. If you make 100k a year and have 220k debt, its going to be wildly different from the person who has 10k a year income with 22k debt. Those are very different things not just because the difference in amount, because someone with 1 million a year income with 2.2 million debt could still do exactly what the 100k income one did, but the 10k income one doesn't have excess amount to spare, the other ones does.
Since we have different jobs, our incomes are probably not the same. The capability of each person to take a loan should be different as well. But I think we must avoid to take a loan that we are difficult to repay the loans. If we earn $100k every year, we mustn't take a loan $220k, how we repay the money? Just take a loan for a very urgent need, don't take a loan excessively. We must think carefully how to repay the loan money before we take the loan. It is a careless way to borrow money without thinking much about the repay.

1619  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The green shouldn't always be the reason to enter the market on: June 25, 2023, 11:36:21 PM
Sometimes when the market is red it can also be a good time to enter the market if carefully watched.  Not all green ends up with profit and not all red ends with loss too.
The ideal time to entry is in red market because it is the time when BTC is cheap. A green market means BTC price is increasing, so we can't by BTC at a cheap price. People may think the green market is a good time to entry, may not have the purpose to hold a long time. They just hold for a short time and take small profits. While for people who target for the long term investment, they must choose the entry time in bearish season (red market). Of course, green market doesn't guarantee for profits, it totally depends on the way (strategy) we trade.

1620  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 25, 2023, 11:20:00 PM
According to transfermarkt there are two teams that want to hire Neymar for the next season and there is a high chance for him to leave PSG for Arabian teams because for players at this age and in this situation there won't be many offers from top-level teams. There is a chance for Neymar to return to Barcelona but I don't think Barcelona will accept hiring a player like Neymar to pay his high amount of salary.
That's why I'm waiting to see him playing for Arabian teams like Al Hilal


His future isn't clear, there are many rumors about him.
Actually, his contract will expire in 2025, he has 2 remaining years. Since Messi has left PSG and Mbappe is rumored to leave as well, PSG may expect Neymar to stay. If you look at PSG attackers, they have only a few players on the positions.

I don't think Neymar wants to join Al Hilal if PSG still expects him to stay. Even if he will get a huge money in Al Hilal, the league isn't as competitive as League 1. He got enough salary in PSG, he seems to stay comfortable if Mbappe is leaving. But if Mbappe stays, Neymar is possible to move to SPL or MLS.

Sure, Barcelona won't sign Neymar. Neymar is no longer in his best form.

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