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1001  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed Bad News Sources Thread - No FUD, Just Facts!!!1 on: January 23, 2014, 12:30:05 AM
You bears crack me up.  Grin

We're not bears.  We're bulls on SHOTRING bitcoin!!!  Haven't you read any of this confirmed news?  If so, you'd be SHOTRING too. That's proven by science.
1002  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2014, 03:32:23 AM
LOL flight from alts to MEME-COINS (ie doge) is hilarious. PPC is in a death spiral.

I got out at a good time then.

I keep thinking, now that we know bitcoin can't work in the real world, as confirmed by sources, we really need to focus on the development of a new cryptocurrency that is like bitcoin, but better.  And, everytime I think about how bitcoin can be significantly improved, the main thing I keep coming back to is its volatility and that its supply needs to be controlled by me.
1003  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed Bad News Sources Thread - No FUD, Just Facts!!!1 on: January 21, 2014, 07:40:36 PM
Wow confirmed badness is accelerating so fast!  The fundamentals of SHOTRING bitcoin have never been stronger, but will continue to strengthen as we get more confirms and verifieds.  Well done contributors!!!  As always, beef up those SHOTRS!
1004  Economy / Speculation / Re: SHOTRING BITCOIN: This is a good idea right now on: January 20, 2014, 07:04:40 PM
I just realized that I've been neglecting an important aspect of making money off of bitcoin, besides SHOTRING:  DAY TARDING!  DAY TARDING is perhaps the easiest way to earn money in the short term, and with bitcoin it's so easy for anyone to be a successfull day tarder.  So, even if you're already in a SHOTR position, you should DAY TARD a little bit just to make some extra cash. 

If you're in the US, DAY TARDING might mean you're obligated to pay short term capital gains tax, but it's only, what, like 35%+-+, and with DAY TARDING in bitcoin you're pretty much guaranteed to make twice that by the hour, it's so easy.  In all seriousness, everyone should be doing it.  Just read the spec forum to know exactly when to buy and sell and buy and sell and so on.
1005  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to dump BTC now I say... on: January 20, 2014, 02:55:12 PM

By the time I did enter into Bitcoin as a speculator, Bitcoin had been transformed from an anarachistic challenge to the financial status quo, to the crypto spawn of Satan, fuelled by cut-throat greed and delusions of avarice.
So no, I no longer care or 'believe' in Bitcoin. Bitcoin has become what the community who has adopted has made it.

Well yeah, if all you do is hang out in the speculation sub forum, all you are going to hear is greedy bastards talking their book. Duh!

Then tell me, for a newcomer looking to put some of his savings into Bitcoin, how then does he avoid the greedy viper bastards with their manipulated bot controlled markets (some of which possibly fake their volume) and the hyper inflated prices based largely on delusions of avarice?

Is there some 'Gentleman's' market around where Bitcoin is traded only at the long term mean value?



Just remember, the fundamentals suggest bitcoin is going to collapse all the way, so the best investment in bitcoin is a heavily leveraged SHOTR position.  Keep it alive by throwing more money at it when the market moves against it, because eventually the market will completely collapse and you will win.  This has been proven by facts and confirmed bad news sources.  Bitcoin is doomed, and SHOTRING it is a good bet.  I am not being sarcastic.
1006  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2014, 12:15:04 AM
Would you say that this is about the porn news?

No.  Just typical price gyration.  The porn news is in English and is unconfirmed and from bad sources, therefore it's of no consequence.  This has all been confirmed by good sources.
1007  Economy / Speculation / Re: SHOTRING BITCOIN: This is a good idea right now on: January 20, 2014, 12:03:38 AM

Have you ever traded on Bitfinex?

Open yourself up an account, go and see for yourself what a cluster fuck the whole place is.


yes I did, it's really not that complicated. however after careful research into it's operation I took everything out as I suspect it will eventually blow up.

if you want some real futures trading try icbit.se, but this one *is* complicated, i.e. you have to know what you are doing first.

SHOTRING bitcoin is such a sure bet that I don't think you really need to know what you're doing.  Just send your bitcoin or USD somewhere that mentions SHOTRING (may be spelled slightly different) and click a few buttons, and in a few weeks you'll probably be rich.
1008  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 19, 2014, 11:15:11 PM
... the cage door on the bear trap is now almost completely shut Wink

panic buy-back moment by bears is going to be the most lulz and precious moment i've had in some while  Cheesy

history only rhymes it never repeats exactly.

It's easy to lose sight of the long term bad news from confirmed sources fundamentals that indicate taking a strong SHORT position.  Small upward price wobbles, and unconfirmed "good" news can make it seem like bitcoin has staying power, and that its value might be higher in the future, but when you get that feeling, it's important to revisit good verified bad news sources from confirmed sources.  That should help get you back to fundamentals, which in the case of bitcoin are bad, as confirmed by good sources of bad news.

If you're already in a highly leveraged SHOTR position, the thing to do, if you're correctly aligned with fundamentals, and if the market seems to be moving against you (which should only be temporary), is to put more money in to protect your SHOTR and keep it going.  Since we have so much confirmed news from sources, especially encrypted in non-English language characters like Chinese and Russian, we know that bitcoin is going to violently crash and fall to oblivion, as confirmed.
1009  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 19, 2014, 05:40:57 PM
now, that the sunday rally is over

how low will the monday dump take us ?


Probably very low, as confirmed by bad news sources and the verified fact that the price didn't break old ATH today.  This confirms additional bad news and new ATL.
1010  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 19, 2014, 04:44:47 PM
the rear view mirror. bought at $789 just sold. BOOyah!

Congrats with that, goign by time of your post seems like you just about hit the top.

I have been trying to short all the way from $810. Lost about $400 so far today.

Still shorting though and now that sentiment of the gamblamaniacs on Huobi seems to have changed course, my bets might actually start coming good.

It's important to think long term when shotring bitcoin at this point.  There will be some good "good" news (but it will not be confirmed by good sources in the right way, watch out for this), but you can't let this impact you, because the confirmed bad news is too clear and verified by good sources.  In other words, the bad news fundamentals are too strong.  Shotring bitcoin at any price is a good bet, due to confirmed bad news sources that we have verified from reliable sources.
1011  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why are we still at this price? Review of bearish thread titles... on: January 19, 2014, 04:41:29 PM
Bitcoin has been in existence for the smallest time period and is in a hyper growth period.

Nobody has a clue.

Quite a few very reputable and educated sources do have a clue, though, and we are gathering all these good bad confirmed sources in one place so that people can see the writing on the wall.  Bitcoin cannot succeed as proven by these sources. 
1012  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Beginning of the End ! on: January 19, 2014, 04:39:32 PM
The manufacturer mining hardware for a few months, will no longer have any interest to mine bitcoin and production any ASIC hardware.

Exactly!  This will at least push the price to standard deviated trend line based on the failed exponential growth curve.  That means the price should fall to around $100 in the short medium term optimistic bear case, but will probably go lower in the fourth quarter of bitcoin's fiscal year.

By 2015, the price might, and I say "might", stabilize in the healthy zone (can't provide a chart right now), which is between $1 and $2.  This, of course, assumes a conservative bullish bear case, so we could see much worse. 

By 2016, no bitcoin anymore, and this can be seen in some of the latest confirmed bad news sources, mostly in Chinese and Russian (See Peter R's recent reporting).

All this leads to an inevitable conclusion:  EVERYONE MUST SHOTR BITCOIN at the highest margin levels. 
1013  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why are we still at this price? Review of bearish thread titles... on: January 19, 2014, 04:34:25 PM
This subforum is literally BRIMMING with bear threads. Here's what's on the first page:

BTC Beginning of the End ! (igorr)
2014 could be a slow year for bitcoin (wobber)
SHOTRING BITCOIN: This is a good idea right now (proudhon)
Worst Case Scenario: Price predictions? (Opsamk)
bearish sentiment in a possible third wave (chessnut)
Do we know why the price is dropping? (Remember remember...)
Confirmed bad news sources thread - No FUD, just facts!!!1 (proudhon)
Another BEARS ONLY discussion. When will bitcoin finally drop and how far? (Edward50)
The age of KARHU begins....seek ye refuge in alms to the KARHU! (KARHU)
Time to dump BTC now I say (DustyRah)

So with this kind of speculation subforum sentiment, why are we still more or less in the same place we've BEEN... HuhHuh

Are the bears WRONG?HuhGrin Grin Grin

Clearly it takes time for confirmed bad news from good sources to be internalized by enough people so that they understand how bad things are, and either SODL, or better, SHORT at maximum margin levels.  Once we enough people reach a proper understanding of the facts, as proven by good sources such as those in those threads, the price will set new 2014 lows and we will proceed with the ultimate collapse of the bitcoin market, as demonstrated by good sources.
1014  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Beginning of the End ! on: January 19, 2014, 03:48:06 PM
Now we have four large a country of where Bitcoin is severely sanctioned,
or half of the earth, in an area with about 2.8 billion people.

1. China
2. India
3. Kanada
4. Russija

Check this  Wink

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For next 5 days -30% , and again for 11 days -30%, and again, and again, ..........

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Difficulty in 2014 year,

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This data convinced me that we will see new 2014 lows over the next few weeks as people realize this -30% and the mining factor going down because of ASICs and Moore's law.  This has all been confirmed, and the analysis above clearly demonstrates the problem.

What to do?:  SODL all bitcoin and SHOTR all bitcoin for maximum profit and to protect against painful losses.  Confirmed sources make this clear.
1015  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed Bad News Sources Thread - No FUD, Just Facts!!!1 on: January 18, 2014, 08:28:26 PM
We all owe Peter and others a great debt of gratitude for their work with this frightening Russian document.
1016  Economy / Speculation / Re: FBI seized an extra 144000 on: January 18, 2014, 08:20:32 PM

This really is terrible news, and gives us all more reason to think that 2014 is the year of the end of bitcoin as confirmed by bad news sources.  I'm sad to say that I forgot to post this in the bad news thread when we all found out about it at the end of October 2013.  Help me inform current and potential bitcoin users of the dismal state of bitcoin in 2014 and beyond by posting this in the bad news thread, so that people can quickly see all of the worst news about bitcoin.  Thank you for your help.
1017  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dwolla vs Bitcoin (Hey Dwolla, feeling the PAIN?) on: January 18, 2014, 06:17:21 PM
It's a little unfair to compare a payments company with an entire distributed consensus ledger.  Here's a more balanced comparison.


1018  Economy / Speculation / Re: Confirmed Bad News Sources Thread - No FUD, Just Facts!!!1 on: January 18, 2014, 03:35:59 PM
Now we have four large a country of where Bitcoin is severely sanctioned,
or half of the earth, in an area with about 2.8 billion people.

1. China
2. India
3. Kanada
4. Russija


Yes, I think this clearly shows that demand for bitcoin is saturated.
1019  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There should be a yearly award ceremony on: January 17, 2014, 09:24:49 PM
I'd like throw my name in the hat.
1020  Economy / Speculation / Re: Once More Unto the Breach, Dear Friends, Once More! January Speculation P2 on: January 17, 2014, 08:14:29 PM

My god!  This is truly frightening bad news.  Please post it here so everyone can see all the bad confirmed bad news from good sources in one place.  Also, make sure to SHOTR, if you haven't already.
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