In the meantime Minex ICO fund reserve on address XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzK dropped to 189408 MNX coins (only 7% left from originally 2.7 millions), 100.000 coins went to Instabuy in a few days. https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzKAlso Minexbank reserves located on address XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4 dropped to 235464 coins (only 15.7% from original 1.5 millions) . Dropping rate is about 100.000 coins or more per month and if continued at this pace Minexbank will bankrupt for 2-3 months. Though, there is possibility that Minex will misuse Developper fund and put one part of it in Minexbank and the other in Instabuy. https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4Parking percents was changed. Your research is useless now. Like every research done by you before. By the way, how much you getting in $$ for your job here? And every your message is confirmed by scammer Jolly straight away  Looks like need to make your trust red because you are working together. Sure, it was changed,but as people said: Too little and too late. Parking rate of 45% per year is still too high and can provide just one extra month,maybe,maybe two ,nothing more. I cant ban anyone to reply on mine messages,not you,not jolly. Minex associated people confirmed each other messages regulary and I have never said that it means they are one person. I dont work with anybody and Iam not paid by anybody. Mine opinions are mine only. On the other side you have so deep connections with Minex that is impossible to believe that you(and few others Minex associated people) have not huge benefit from it. Lolz....who told you it won't go lower in the next memorandum and have you forgotten that Minexpay will also lock some coin for activation of the card? Minex is presenting new memorandum every 6-8 months or more. Then it will be too late. Only way is that Minex use Developping fund to finance Minexbank and InstaBuy. Cards wont help ,because problem is inflicted by too high parking rates.Whole parking system is unsustainable from the beginning.It is huge mistake,responsible for most of devaluation of MNX coin. You are attacking MNX since beginning of October and texting here false info almost every day. And you want to tell me that you are not with bath of FUDders from Serbia? C'mon, you must hide your identity better. Cards are send to customers and you can pass that info to your friends. It's no sense to continue FUD attack anymore. And next time when you will buy someones account please be more care full. Iam not attacking anyone or hiding anything, just exposing network of Minex lies,misleadings,misinformations,etc... I have not connection with any FUDers,from Serbia or somewhere else. You are a complete fool if you think that I bought some account - Iam not like you and you buddies with multiple false identities.  I have only this account and never had anyone else,unlike you and your friends.You probably think that if you are a professional FUDer that everbody else is too.  Such thinking is calling professional deformation. Iam sure you and your buddies are heavily pissed off ,because all your plans to deceive people fall apart. Only FUD here is FUD spreading from people deeply associated and personally connected with Minex. You and your FUDers buddies on Minex paylist are making the worst possible advertising for Minex and together with Boris incompetence destroyed Minex in complete. Now, you are luring naive people to dump on them some more worthless coins before Minex end. You cant blame me for everything wrong Minex did.No one forced Minex to use lies and misinformations or create such catastrophic economic model. I will continue to debunk your lies(and praise if you do something legal and good), you can count on it, until Minex becomes decent and trustful company or else.  Cards are send to customers around the world and nobody care anymore about your researches. You failed Ha-Ha I do like Simpsons I didnt fail in anything. All I said about Minex proved as truth. If you think that Iam against Minex payment card program then you are wrong. Iam only against this wrong way Minex use to achieve it.I was hoped that Minex will use longer,but safer and legal way to get fully branded cards,but mine hopes were in vain. Sending non-branded cards with completely unknown basic features as card issuer, fees,limits, nominated currency is not something good or worth of glorification. When all these backfires to Minex(and it will for sure),all of you will retreat and leave naive customers to try alone to find a way to his/her accounts and money. No one from you would have courage and take responsibilty for taken actions,as it proved multiple times till now. Relax dude,come back few months later and see how things will be good or bad. Iam relaxed,thank you. Unfortunately if Minex leadership persists on present way of leading business,there will be no Minex for few months. If Iam stop posting ,problems wont dissapear. No one can run longterm successfull business based on constant deceiving of customers and attacking same when they point on obvious problems. After its operational update from 29th. November, I thought that Minex would finally be back on normal tracks and that they will go slower but safer way and eventually get away from problems.How wrong I was. They made U turn and throttle up to the maximum on the old path of avoiding laws,regulations,everything, without any thinking about consequences of theirs acts which putting theirs customers in jeopardy. When everything falls apart, there will be not at single one die hard Minex supporter here to face with the rage of customers. |
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In the meantime Minex ICO fund reserve on address XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzK dropped to 189408 MNX coins (only 7% left from originally 2.7 millions), 100.000 coins went to Instabuy in a few days. https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzKAlso Minexbank reserves located on address XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4 dropped to 235464 coins (only 15.7% from original 1.5 millions) . Dropping rate is about 100.000 coins or more per month and if continued at this pace Minexbank will bankrupt for 2-3 months. Though, there is possibility that Minex will misuse Developper fund and put one part of it in Minexbank and the other in Instabuy. https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4Parking percents was changed. Your research is useless now. Like every research done by you before. By the way, how much you getting in $$ for your job here? And every your message is confirmed by scammer Jolly straight away Looks like need to make your trust red because you are working together. Sure, it was changed,but as people said: Too little and too late. Parking rate of 45% per year is still too high and can provide just one extra month,maybe,maybe two ,nothing more. I cant ban anyone to reply on mine messages,not you,not jolly. Minex associated people confirmed each other messages regulary and I have never said that it means they are one person. I dont work with anybody and Iam not paid by anybody. Mine opinions are mine only. On the other side you have so deep connections with Minex that is impossible to believe that you(and few others Minex associated people) have not huge benefit from it. Lolz....who told you it won't go lower in the next memorandum and have you forgotten that Minexpay will also lock some coin for activation of the card? Minex is presenting new memorandum every 6-8 months or more. Then it will be too late. Only way is that Minex use Developping fund to finance Minexbank and InstaBuy. Cards wont help ,because problem is inflicted by too high parking rates.Whole parking system is unsustainable from the beginning.It is huge mistake,responsible for most of devaluation of MNX coin. You are attacking MNX since beginning of October and texting here false info almost every day. And you want to tell me that you are not with bath of FUDders from Serbia? C'mon, you must hide your identity better. Cards are send to customers and you can pass that info to your friends. It's no sense to continue FUD attack anymore. And next time when you will buy someones account please be more care full. Iam not attacking anyone or hiding anything, just exposing network of Minex lies,misleadings,misinformations,etc... I have not connection with any FUDers,from Serbia or somewhere else. You are a complete fool if you think that I bought some account - Iam not like you and you buddies with multiple false identities. I have only this account and never had anyone else,unlike you and your friends.You probably think that if you are a professional FUDer that everbody else is too. Such thinking is calling professional deformation. Iam sure you and your buddies are heavily pissed off ,because all your plans to deceive people fall apart. Only FUD here is FUD spreading from people deeply associated and personally connected with Minex. You and your FUDers buddies on Minex paylist are making the worst possible advertising for Minex and together with Boris incompetence destroyed Minex in complete. Now, you are luring naive people to dump on them some more worthless coins before Minex end. You cant blame me for everything wrong Minex did.No one forced Minex to use lies and misinformations or create such catastrophic economic model. I will continue to debunk your lies(and praise if you do something legal and good), you can count on it, until Minex becomes decent and trustful company or else. Cards are send to customers around the world and nobody care anymore about your researches. You failed Ha-Ha I do like Simpsons I didnt fail in anything. All I said about Minex proved as truth. If you think that Iam against Minex payment card program then you are wrong. Iam only against this wrong way Minex use to achieve it.I was hoped that Minex will use longer,but safer and legal way to get fully branded cards,but mine hopes were in vain. Sending non-branded cards with completely unknown basic features as card issuer, fees,limits, nominated currency is not something good or worth of glorification. When all these backfires to Minex(and it will for sure),all of you will retreat and leave naive customers to try alone to find a way to his/her accounts and money. No one from you would have courage and take responsibilty for taken actions,as it proved multiple times till now. |
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In the meantime Minex ICO fund reserve on address XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzK dropped to 189408 MNX coins (only 7% left from originally 2.7 millions), 100.000 coins went to Instabuy in a few days. https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzKAlso Minexbank reserves located on address XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4 dropped to 235464 coins (only 15.7% from original 1.5 millions) . Dropping rate is about 100.000 coins or more per month and if continued at this pace Minexbank will bankrupt for 2-3 months. Though, there is possibility that Minex will misuse Developper fund and put one part of it in Minexbank and the other in Instabuy. https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4Parking percents was changed. Your research is useless now. Like every research done by you before. By the way, how much you getting in $$ for your job here? And every your message is confirmed by scammer Jolly straight away Looks like need to make your trust red because you are working together. Sure, it was changed,but as people said: Too little and too late. Parking rate of 45% per year is still too high and can provide just one extra month,maybe,maybe two ,nothing more. I cant ban anyone to reply on mine messages,not you,not jolly. Minex associated people confirmed each other messages regulary and I have never said that it means they are one person. I dont work with anybody and Iam not paid by anybody. Mine opinions are mine only. On the other side you have so deep connections with Minex that is impossible to believe that you(and few others Minex associated people) have not huge benefit from it. Lolz....who told you it won't go lower in the next memorandum and have you forgotten that Minexpay will also lock some coin for activation of the card? Minex is presenting new memorandum every 6-8 months or more. Then it will be too late. Only way is that Minex use Developping fund to finance Minexbank and InstaBuy. Cards wont help ,because problem is inflicted by too high parking rates.Whole parking system is unsustainable from the beginning.It is huge mistake,responsible for most of devaluation of MNX coin. You are attacking MNX since beginning of October and texting here false info almost every day. And you want to tell me that you are not with bath of FUDders from Serbia? C'mon, you must hide your identity better. Cards are send to customers and you can pass that info to your friends. It's no sense to continue FUD attack anymore. And next time when you will buy someones account please be more care full. Iam not attacking anyone or hiding anything, just exposing network of Minex lies,misleadings,misinformations,etc... I have not connection with any FUDers,from Serbia or somewhere else. You are a complete fool if you think that I bought some account - Iam not like you and you buddies with multiple false identities. I have only this account and never had anyone else,unlike you and your friends.You probably think that if you are a professional FUDer that everbody else is too. Such thinking is calling professional deformation. Iam sure you and your buddies are heavily pissed off ,because all your plans to deceive people fall apart. Only FUD here is FUD spreading from people deeply associated and personally connected with Minex. You and your FUDers buddies on Minex paylist are making the worst possible advertising for Minex and together with Boris incompetence destroyed Minex in complete. Now, you are luring naive people to dump on them some more worthless coins before Minex end. You cant blame me for everything wrong Minex did.No one forced Minex to use lies and misinformations or create such catastrophic economic model. I will continue to debunk your lies(and praise if you do something legal and good), you can count on it, until Minex becomes decent and trustful company or else. |
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In the meantime Minex ICO fund reserve on address XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzK dropped to 189408 MNX coins (only 7% left from originally 2.7 millions), 100.000 coins went to Instabuy in a few days. https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzKAlso Minexbank reserves located on address XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4 dropped to 235464 coins (only 15.7% from original 1.5 millions) . Dropping rate is about 100.000 coins or more per month and if continued at this pace Minexbank will bankrupt for 2-3 months. Though, there is possibility that Minex will misuse Developper fund and put one part of it in Minexbank and the other in Instabuy. https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4Parking percents was changed. Your research is useless now. Like every research done by you before. By the way, how much you getting in $$ for your job here? And every your message is confirmed by scammer Jolly straight away Looks like need to make your trust red because you are working together. Sure, it was changed,but as people said: Too little and too late. Parking rate of 45% per year is still too high and can provide just one extra month,maybe,maybe two ,nothing more. I cant ban anyone to reply on mine messages,not you,not jolly. Minex associated people confirmed each other messages regulary and I have never said that it means they are one person. I dont work with anybody and Iam not paid by anybody. Mine opinions are mine only. On the other side you have so deep connections with Minex that is impossible to believe that you(and few others Minex associated people) have not huge benefit from it. Lolz....who told you it won't go lower in the next memorandum and have you forgotten that Minexpay will also lock some coin for activation of the card? Minex is presenting new memorandum every 6-8 months or more. Then it will be too late. Only way is that Minex use Developping fund to finance Minexbank and InstaBuy. Cards wont help ,because problem is inflicted by too high parking rates.Whole parking system is unsustainable from the beginning.It is huge mistake,responsible for most of devaluation of MNX coin. |
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In the meantime Minex ICO fund reserve on address XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzK dropped to 189408 MNX coins (only 7% left from originally 2.7 millions), 100.000 coins went to Instabuy in a few days. https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzKAlso Minexbank reserves located on address XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4 dropped to 235464 coins (only 15.7% from original 1.5 millions) . Dropping rate is about 100.000 coins or more per month and if continued at this pace Minexbank will bankrupt for 2-3 months. Though, there is possibility that Minex will misuse Developper fund and put one part of it in Minexbank and the other in Instabuy. https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4Parking percents was changed. Your research is useless now. Like every research done by you before. By the way, how much you getting in $$ for your job here? And every your message is confirmed by scammer Jolly straight away Looks like need to make your trust red because you are working together. Sure, it was changed,but as people said: Too little and too late. Parking rate of 45% per year is still too high and can provide just one extra month,maybe,maybe two ,nothing more. I cant ban anyone to reply on mine messages,not you,not jolly. Minex associated people confirmed each other messages regulary and I have never said that it means they are one person. I dont work with anybody and Iam not paid by anybody. Mine opinions are mine only. On the other side you have so deep connections with Minex that is impossible to believe that you(and few others Minex associated people) have not huge benefit from it. |
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In the meantime Minex ICO fund reserve on address XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzK dropped to 189408 MNX coins (only 7% left from originally 2.7 millions), 100.000 coins went to Instabuy in a few days. https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzKAlso Minexbank reserves located on address XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4 dropped to 235464 coins (only 15.7% from original 1.5 millions) . Dropping rate is about 100.000 coins or more per month and if continued at this pace Minexbank will bankrupt for 2-3 months. Though, there is possibility that Minex will misuse Developper fund and put one part of it in Minexbank and the other in Instabuy. https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4 |
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anyone got card?
\ Sending process was started in Wednesday. Have a little bit more patience please. Cards are shipping out already? If yes then what the chances of everyone receiving the card before this year ends? I think that depends of post office speed and from place where you live. Because cards will be/was(process started does not mean cards already in post box) send from Ukraine. Will the cards look same as the pictures that are shown in the https://minexpay.com/ or you guys are going with different design. The first 1000 cards sent out today will not be with a branded design (since the delay was released), but the next batch will already be. But I assure you that the cards are absolutely legal, issued by an offshore bank and only Minexpay knows your data .. 👍 It will be a sensation. All the trolls can fall under the ground ... You can talk that to someone who does not procedure about getting branded cards. Do you realize how it sounds when you are talking that first batch is not branded but next will be? Even the most idiotic company would not send non-branded cards if there is possibility to send branded ones shortly after.Minex is sending them because it knows there will be no branded cards at all. Minex has no contract with card issuer and his customers are getting some card without knowing anything about it - unknown card issuer , unknown limits, unknown fees, unknown nominal currency. It is insane and first time in history that people are getting card without knowing anything about it. Only reason for it, is Minex fear from cancelling.That is why all is so super secretive.It seems that Boris hired again guy form Novarise Secrecy or he became him now. There is no offshore bank,no nothing. Actually this story about offshore bank is so old, old lie ,from July this year.https://faq.minexpay.com/article/237-how-does-minexpay-work These so call first batch are probably issued by ukranian Privat Bank Mastercard Gold Business Debit Card - the same cards used for testing. Of course it is prohibited to issue other company cards to your customers,which Minex customers will learn on hard way. All this Minex card frenzy looks highly orchestrated as a final attempt to lure naive people to start buying MNX for its cards and sell some more worhtless coins until card cancellation and consequential Minex shutdown after it. That is why work on whitelist is abandoned,it is useless now. Lolz...you haven't seen the card and you make useless conclusions, no matter how hard you try you can't figure out their secret which is the value of a company and to avoid been copied by other company. Saying MNX issue private card is useless. MNX card are not from Ukraine at all and details about the fees,bank and other necessary info will be announced You dont understand nothing. What secrets ,what avoiding to be copied by other companies?? All other companies issued theirs BRANDED valid payment cards - why the hell they would want to copy Boris illegal scheme ?? Every single company who issued BRANDED cards didnt hide anything from theirs users, like Minex does. On the contrary, they promoted theirs cards as much as possible. Minex is negative exception.It sends some anonymous cards with completely unknown features,issuer, nominated currency. This is not normal, this is breaking every rule of business decency. There is no reason to hide anything if everything is OK and legal. |
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Will the cards look same as the pictures that are shown in the https://minexpay.com/ or you guys are going with different design.  That image posted posted by thunderjet. If these cards are ever going to be released will not have Minexpay branding so they will look completetly different from the scam images on the minexpay website. What is certain is that Minexcoin/Minexpay/Minexsystem does not have any agreement with an official VISA/Mastercard program accredited manager to release any cards. These cards if they are ever going to be released will be simply the same as over the counter pre-paid debit cards people buy over the counter in shops and malls in the EU and US. It seems they are going to create a way to add balance to these cards by going through their API rather than go through the card issuer directly and that according to them means they "will be releasing their cards.... soon" and they think they can fool investors in to believing this not yet released "product" is what the ICO was created for. I agree entirely with suggestions made by thunderjet when he said that Borys should resign but I will go a step further and say that scammers and paid trolls such as temhuk, jedgar and yurez83 and their alliance should go with Borys too SCAMActually I think it is same card used for testing, slightly different from the one on your picture. It is Mastercard Gold Debit business card - issued as corporate card ,without name of cardholder,like test card on picture below:  This means that Boris did as I said- he falsely declared his customers as his workers,which is prohibited,but he does not care any more for laws and regulations. Nothing strange. He was lying heavily in July promoting that Minex has offshore bank with international license established and mananged by Minex in the time when Minex actually didnt have any contract at all.
Now he promotes and sending anonymous card:
- with unknown card issuer
- with unknown card fees
- with unknown card limits
- with unknown nominated currency
- with unknown availability in countries around world
As I said before , there is no reason to hide if everything is OK and legal. But it is not,that is a problem. It looks to me as one final attempt to lure naive people to start buying MNX for its cards and sell some more worhtless coins before card has been cancelled and Minex inevitably shutdown after it. |
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I'd advice anyone:
1) don't feed the trolls
2) let them talkin' to themselves.
3) don't give them any info on MNX card and its mechanics. Let them feel like they are born out of their mothers ass.
We all know that MNX cards are real and legal and they have innovative know-how behind to work out any restrictions that would come either from the government or Masrecard/Visa side.
Let say to ourselves - we won't share our knowledge with trolls! Anyone who wanna have knowledge on fully working crypto-fiat MNX card is wellcome to official telegram groups.
Minex would love it if all his customers would shut up until they took them all the money.Even after it. With such bad attitude toward its customers it is not unusual at all why many people calls Minex scam. Minex is ONLY company in crypto world and in the world itself which offers not just non-branded invalid cards payment cards but also cards with completely unknown features and issuer. How legal is that? So keep doing like that.You are making the worst possible marketing to Minex. Everyone who looks at history of Minex associated people posts would see mountain of empty promises. One repeating pattern - making hype about new unsupported,empty promises - attack everyone who thinks differently - retreat when bubble of empty promises explodes - go back on making new empty promises |
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anyone got card?
\ Sending process was started in Wednesday. Have a little bit more patience please. Cards are shipping out already? If yes then what the chances of everyone receiving the card before this year ends? I think that depends of post office speed and from place where you live. Because cards will be/was(process started does not mean cards already in post box) send from Ukraine. Will the cards look same as the pictures that are shown in the https://minexpay.com/ or you guys are going with different design. The first 1000 cards sent out today will not be with a branded design (since the delay was released), but the next batch will already be. But I assure you that the cards are absolutely legal, issued by an offshore bank and only Minexpay knows your data .. 👍 It will be a sensation. All the trolls can fall under the ground ... You can talk that to someone who does not procedure about getting branded cards. Do you realize how it sounds when you are talking that first batch is not branded but next will be? Even the most idiotic company would not send non-branded cards if there is possibility to send branded ones shortly after.Minex is sending them because it knows there will be no branded cards at all. Minex has no contract with card issuer and his customers are getting some card without knowing anything about it - unknown card issuer , unknown limits, unknown fees, unknown nominal currency. It is insane and first time in history that people are getting card without knowing anything about it. Only reason for it, is Minex fear from cancelling.That is why all is so super secretive.It seems that Boris hired again guy form Novarise Secrecy or he became him now. There is no offshore bank,no nothing. Actually this story about offshore bank is so old, old lie ,from July this year.https://faq.minexpay.com/article/237-how-does-minexpay-workThese so call first batch are probably issued by ukranian Privat Bank Mastercard Gold Business Debit Card - the same cards used for testing. Of course it is prohibited to issue other company cards to your customers,which Minex customers will learn on hard way. All this Minex card frenzy looks highly orchestrated as a final attempt to lure naive people to start buying MNX for its cards and sell some more worhtless coins until card cancellation and consequential Minex shutdown after it. That is why work on whitelist is abandoned,it is useless now. |
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Sure ,you can be ignorant as you wish,but issuing non-branded cards is forbidden. Whatever Boris works can be only illegal and consequences of his work will pay his customers when Mastercard cancels cards.
I am aware that he is talking how everything will be OK,but it is far from truth. He is falsely presenting his customers as his workers and sending them company cards instead branded valid cards.
He is utterly incompetent ,but immensely stubborn man - two features which are so bad for business.
If he really wants best to Minex the best he can do is to leave CEO postition and finds someone far more capable and responsible to make Minex valid and respected company. I agree with you. Borys has been very stubborn and that has shown how incompetent he is too. The VP has left but nobody seems to know why. If Borys follows your advice and leaves then who will take over? Are you agree with your self? Jolly, stop using fake accounts, that's looks stupid. Nobody trusting to you because you are just a troll. I have to react on this. Mine account is mine only .I have no any connection with JollyGood and dont know who is he. I dont have any other account on Bitcointalk except this.Thinking that him and I is the same person,can do only someone utterly malevolent or stupid, or both. |
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anyone got card?
\ Sending process was started in Wednesday. Have a little bit more patience please. Cards are shipping out already? If yes then what the chances of everyone receiving the card before this year ends? I think that depends of post office speed and from place where you live. Because cards will be/was(process started does not mean cards already in post box) send from Ukraine. So cards are from some Ukranian bank or card issuer, isnt it  ?? |
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Just to let users here know (again) that I have several propaganda spreading fools on IGNORE so if you see posts that I have not replied to or am not replying to then it is probably because I cannot read their posts as I find whatever they post to be nonsense especially from paid trolls.
Looking in to this a little more it seems Minexpay/Minexsystem/Minexcoin are using an existing card supplier for all the work. Even to top up it will take place using the card issuer system so what exactly is Minexpay doing?
Minex is doing exactly what I was described in mine previous posts - illegally using other issuer cards as their owns which is strictly forbidden by VISA/Mastercard. Obviously they are so self-confident that they can outsmart card issuers,so they are pushing these non-branded cards no matter it is not allowed. They think how other companies which followed laws and regulations and issued branded cards are stupid. It is just one last sign that Minex went rogue and not care any more for laws and regulations. Unfortunately for users,it will end badly for them when Mastercard cancel cards and freeze accounts.That is reason why Minex is hiding real card issuer.Top secret, 007 cards . People are pushing to use cards without knowing who is real card issuer, card fees,limits ... That sounds very serious. It maybe a case of Mastercard shutting those cards down but what will happen to the balance of end users on those cards? Maybe if an official from the Minex team can shed some light on this things might become clearer. Have they actually named the bank/card issuer they claim to have a deal with? They are keeping everything about these invalid non-branded cards so secretive in a hope that Mastercard wont cancel them if they dont publish which these cards really are. It is so childish and stupid. It is clear that there are not at one reason to keep it secret if everything is legal.Just look at other companies which flood crypto community with informations when they get a license for theirs branded cards. Minex is giving some cards which we do not know who the card issuer is , what fees these cards have, what limits, is it nominated in USD or EUR or CHF - no informations at all, everything is keeping mark as top secret,Boris eyes only( and maybe Temhuk,but Iam not sure in it). Maybe it is Santa Clause special card edition - valid only during Christmas Legal issues has been number priority for boris and this is the project of "his life" as been said by peter,so he won't even try to manipulate things when he knows the repercussion. Iam not sure that Boris understands real consequences of giving non-branded payment cards(basically you use other company cards as yours own) which is strictly forbidden by VISA and Mastercard regulations. There is no question that these irregular non-branded cards will be cancelled ,only how fast it will happen. Repercussions for customers( and Minex too) will be devastating. I understand that Minex is under enormous pressure to give some positive results as soon as possible,but this is completely wrong way which will push things only further down. These companies who followed regulations and spent many months to issue branded cards are not bunch of fools.Cant build business on constant avoiding necessary regulations and laws.Instead of positive developpment you will receive constant backfire until whole project will be in ruins and nobody will believe you any more. I really love your concerns for this project. None of us understand the agreement between the issuing bank and chain2pay,it's very difficult to know the process taken to issue those card whether it is a right or wrong process But let wait still MNX announced why their unbranded card can't be ban or the terms and conditions of the card Sure ,you can be ignorant as you wish,but issuing non-branded cards is forbidden. Whatever Boris works can be only illegal and consequences of his work will pay his customers when Mastercard cancels cards. I am aware that he is talking how everything will be OK,but it is far from truth. He is falsely presenting his customers as his workers and sending them company cards instead branded valid cards. He made so much fuck-ups till now: - build parking system with 70% interest rate which led to hyperinflation and massive devaluation of investors funds, - giving false promises about getting price in +-5% range - making completely sensless promises,based on nothing except his wishes, how price of MNX will have 80% growth this year - didnt realized almost nothing from whitelist - made false announcements about contract with CSOB banks - hired without any check Novarise scammer to provide him cards without doing necessary regulations - sending some anonymous cards to people which has unknown card issuer, unknown limits, unknow fees, unknown curency nominaton, unknown availabilty to different countries, unknown everything - believe if he does not disclosure nothing about his irregular non-branded cards that Mastercard wond find him and cancel the cards He is utterly incompetent ,but immensely stubborn man - two features which are so bad for business. If he really wants best to Minex the best he can do is to leave CEO postition and finds someone far more capable and responsible to make Minex valid and respected company. |
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Just to let users here know (again) that I have several propaganda spreading fools on IGNORE so if you see posts that I have not replied to or am not replying to then it is probably because I cannot read their posts as I find whatever they post to be nonsense especially from paid trolls.
Looking in to this a little more it seems Minexpay/Minexsystem/Minexcoin are using an existing card supplier for all the work. Even to top up it will take place using the card issuer system so what exactly is Minexpay doing?
Minex is doing exactly what I was described in mine previous posts - illegally using other issuer cards as their owns which is strictly forbidden by VISA/Mastercard. Obviously they are so self-confident that they can outsmart card issuers,so they are pushing these non-branded cards no matter it is not allowed. They think how other companies which followed laws and regulations and issued branded cards are stupid. It is just one last sign that Minex went rogue and not care any more for laws and regulations. Unfortunately for users,it will end badly for them when Mastercard cancel cards and freeze accounts.That is reason why Minex is hiding real card issuer.Top secret, 007 cards . People are pushing to use cards without knowing who is real card issuer, card fees,limits ... That sounds very serious. It maybe a case of Mastercard shutting those cards down but what will happen to the balance of end users on those cards? Maybe if an official from the Minex team can shed some light on this things might become clearer. Have they actually named the bank/card issuer they claim to have a deal with? They are keeping everything about these invalid non-branded cards so secretive in a hope that Mastercard wont cancel them if they dont publish which these cards really are. It is so childish and stupid. It is clear that there are not at one reason to keep it secret if everything is legal.Just look at other companies which flood crypto community with informations when they get a license for theirs branded cards. Minex is giving some cards which we do not know who the card issuer is , what fees these cards have, what limits, is it nominated in USD or EUR or CHF - no informations at all, everything is keeping mark as top secret,Boris eyes only( and maybe Temhuk,but Iam not sure in it). Maybe it is Santa Clause special card edition - valid only during Christmas Legal issues has been number priority for boris and this is the project of "his life" as been said by peter,so he won't even try to manipulate things when he knows the repercussion. Iam not sure that Boris understands real consequences of giving non-branded payment cards(basically you use other company cards as yours own) which is strictly forbidden by VISA and Mastercard regulations. There is no question that these irregular non-branded cards will be cancelled ,only how fast it will happen. Repercussions for customers( and Minex too) will be devastating. I understand that Minex is under enormous pressure to give some positive results as soon as possible,but this is completely wrong way which will push things only further down. These companies who followed regulations and spent many months to issue branded cards are not bunch of fools.Cant build business on constant avoiding necessary regulations and laws.Instead of positive developpment you will receive constant backfire until whole project will be in ruins and nobody will believe you any more. |
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Just to let users here know (again) that I have several propaganda spreading fools on IGNORE so if you see posts that I have not replied to or am not replying to then it is probably because I cannot read their posts as I find whatever they post to be nonsense especially from paid trolls.
Looking in to this a little more it seems Minexpay/Minexsystem/Minexcoin are using an existing card supplier for all the work. Even to top up it will take place using the card issuer system so what exactly is Minexpay doing?
Minex is doing exactly what I was described in mine previous posts - illegally using other issuer cards as their owns which is strictly forbidden by VISA/Mastercard. Obviously they are so self-confident that they can outsmart card issuers,so they are pushing these non-branded cards no matter it is not allowed. They think how other companies which followed laws and regulations and issued branded cards are stupid. It is just one last sign that Minex went rogue and not care any more for laws and regulations. Unfortunately for users,it will end badly for them when Mastercard cancel cards and freeze accounts.That is reason why Minex is hiding real card issuer.Top secret, 007 cards . People are pushing to use cards without knowing who is real card issuer, card fees,limits ... Main problem is, You don't know anything about MNx cards from inside. You are trying to guess all the time. Better sell your MCO or another shitcoin which can't provide cards and jump on the MNX board. Everthing I said till now proved right . Not enough ? Well I can assure you that I will give mine best to stay so precise in the future too. P.S - Iam not trading or holding any shitcoins(MNX,MCO...),only big coins with proved large support.
Just to let users here know (again) that I have several propaganda spreading fools on IGNORE so if you see posts that I have not replied to or am not replying to then it is probably because I cannot read their posts as I find whatever they post to be nonsense especially from paid trolls.
Looking in to this a little more it seems Minexpay/Minexsystem/Minexcoin are using an existing card supplier for all the work. Even to top up it will take place using the card issuer system so what exactly is Minexpay doing?
Minex is doing exactly what I was described in mine previous posts - illegally using other issuer cards as their owns which is strictly forbidden by VISA/Mastercard. Obviously they are so self-confident that they can outsmart card issuers,so they are pushing these non-branded cards no matter it is not allowed. They think how other companies which followed laws and regulations and issued branded cards are stupid. It is just one last sign that Minex went rogue and not care any more for laws and regulations. Unfortunately for users,it will end badly for them when Mastercard cancel cards and freeze accounts.That is reason why Minex is hiding real card issuer.Top secret, 007 cards . People are pushing to use cards without knowing who is real card issuer, card fees,limits ... That sounds very serious. It maybe a case of Mastercard shutting those cards down but what will happen to the balance of end users on those cards? Maybe if an official from the Minex team can shed some light on this things might become clearer. Have they actually named the bank/card issuer they claim to have a deal with? They are keeping everything about these invalid non-branded cards so secretive in a hope that Mastercard wont cancel them if they dont publish which these cards really are. It is so childish and stupid. It is clear that there are not at one reason to keep it secret if everything is legal.Just look at other companies which flood crypto community with informations when they get a license for theirs branded cards. Minex is giving some cards which we do not know who the card issuer is , what fees these cards have, what limits, is it nominated in USD or EUR or CHF - no informations at all, everything is keeping mark as top secret,Boris eyes only( and maybe Temhuk,but Iam not sure in it). Maybe it is Santa Clause special card edition - valid only during Christmas |
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You are welcome.
I just frankly admit that for me it is very strange when you blamed the project for scam, insulted the team, the participants and me with lies, etc. , and now speak as politely as if nothing had happened. But I am a normal person, so I can close my eyes to past events if you really conduct a "friendly conversation." I have a different version of events to you. I would unequivocally put the blame for the drop in etiquette on you and those that were blindly pumping Minexsystem/Minexcoin/Minexpay and Republia or doing it because they were receiving a payment. That then provoked a reaction from those that saw the misinformation/lies promoting non-existent business deals with CSOB and without even making relevant checks about Novarise as outright lies and scam. Having said that, regardless of all differing opinions I have no interest in engaging with anybody unless it remains on cordial terms. Minexsystem/Minexpay/Minexcoin seems to be working towards something far better than they were a few weeks ago. I would welcome any real progress on that project. About Republia, I still have seen nothing so far that alleviates my concerns about it being a scam but that might change in the coming days/weeks You either do not understand the essence of fraudulent projects, or are too absorbed in searching for fraudulent projects, which, in your opinion, is a complete deception. Look around - in fact, there are hundreds of coins that have not done anything even from the very first step, but simply deceived and hid. They do not need to wait more than 2 years to do a dirty business. And now from all these projects you have chosen Minex - the largest fraud in your opinion, which, in turn, has no direct relation to the Republic, but, nevertheless, you have already accused her of fraud. I just do not understand why you are doing this? Much work has been done, no one hides their faces, their names, their location, their telephone numbers, etc. Fully open to dialogue. But do you think scammers do it? Yes, look around again! Just projects collect money, even without everything from work, even without an action plan, hiding people, etc., and people donate money. Why are you not there? Why not protect poor people? Or do you think that I have invested 10,000 dollars in the Republic (let's say), I do not understand what this project will be, and I would not see fraudsters? Of course, I would see it, since another investor is not a novice. Not everyone is stupid, especially now. This is not 2017. Everyone studies the project in length and across and assesses prospects, risks and legality ... Therefore, if you engage in dialogue and doubt something, it does not mean that you are right in your opinion. Every person is right in his own way. But to assert without direct confirmed (I emphasize) the facts that there is no need for lies and fraud. It looks like slander. Unfortunately,there is direct connection between Minex and Republia and it is impossible to negate.You can negate only if you dont want to see it.Minex and Republia do not share only same people, but almost same financial program with minor, irrelevant differencies.Only different part is whitelist technical plan. I do not make judgements easily,but there is a few things which can make every investor very,very cautious: - Both Republia founders, Daniel Shulayev and Vladimir Gyrych and advisor Boris Shulayev worked/work in Minex. 16.Dec.2016,while in pre-ICO, Minex gave statement to different crypto news portals,signed by PR manager,Daniel Shulayev(certainly approved by Boris) how Minex made a contract with one of the leading european banks to buy share in Minex by buying 1,092 millions of MNX for 1705.44 BTCs. Now,we know it was a lie.Big one.Banks do not pay in BTCs and in that time Minex didnt exist as a company.It was founded 9 months later in 22.Aug.2017,so it was impossible to buy share in non-existing company.Reason for that lie was Minex obligation to refund investors if pre-ICO was unsuccessfull.This way they avoided it. Question is how to believe to these people now,when they proved themselves as willing to do anything just not to return money to investors? It is valid question and in bussiness trust is extremely important.They didnt do minor but major violation of investors rights. - why Republia took Boris Shulayev as an advisor? After disastruosly leading of Minex ,taking him as an advisor is sending very bad impression to potential investors and make any attempt to negate relations to Minex futile - Republia whitelist is much more serious and difficult to achieve than Minex list.Costly too.Minex didnt succeed to realize much simplier list.By their own admission,Republia will need several years to achieve goals if everything goes well.For that time Republia will use ICO collected money and selling premined coins. For investors it means that Republia would not be able to keep promise about maintain exchange rate in tight range due to lack of funds for it.Not without massive external financing.On the contrary, using premined coins for financing will make situation even worse.As time passes, initial funds will be depleted and Republia will need to sell more and more coins to finance developping.It will make greater and greater pressure on market and price and one by one,investors would dump theirs coins with a loss.Then,Republia will need to sell even more coins to finance it and here we come in vicious cycle of hyperinflation generated by parking 70% rate and premined coins selling,like Minex did. Now,a month before ICO sale ,despite promises to change financial plan,Republia did nothing.Every investor before initial sale would like to see these changes of financial plan and not to rely on ICO leadership promises.Promises that something will be done after sale, no investor will buy as a truth. All above problems made me very,very sceptical about project.When someone make ICO based on a disastruos financial construction (proved in earlier ICO),with a lot of same people involved in it, I cant qualify that any more as incompetence but as an intetion. This is why this project has so high probabilty to turn scam.Not because people fudding it,but because serious problems and flaws described in text above. I will answer you, although I asked questions to another user and not at all about what you write to me, what I asked. Unfortunately, you want to wishful thinking. There is no direct connection between projects. If you consider the kinship of the consultant Boris and his son, one of the co-founder Daniel, direct linking of the projects is stupid. Did Daniel create his project and this is a connection? What nonsense. Direct communication is a complete copying of an idea, copying products, a blockchain, etc ... This is not the case here. Absolutely new innovative blockchain, which is written from scratch, not fork. Absolutely innovative opportunities to create contracts and projects on a new platform. Absolutely innovative approach to security and the ability to integrate other projects ... And a lot of things .... Did you read white paper? What is the connection with minexcoin? Bank? So even it is modified and will act according to its algorithm, in different directions ... Therefore, do not be silly. Yes. All your judgments that supposedly "not enough money", "not enough coins" - this is only your opinion and desire. The financial model was created not by fools, but by people who have an economic education. Well, you can not know what will be implemented after the fact, you can not know what will be modified, because the project completely eliminates hard forks and is subject to change, depending on the participants жeл desires ’by voting. And I appreciate your concern for your concern with the Republia project, but you read the questions I wrote earlier and answer them better. How did Republia deserve such attention? Why not hundreds of other projects that are really scam? I understand that nothing just happens. And once you are here, it means that you are pursuing some goals. Therefore, I am very “skeptical” about your sincerity ... Iam sincere believe or not. I have not desire to ruin anything just to clarify some things that are worring any investor. As you could read in mine post , when I linked Minex and Republia I specified that connection between 2 projects are in people and in financial part ,not whitelist.Core of the Republia team and Minex is the same,financial part is copy of Minex one,so this connection is very real. Major problem is trust. How to trust people which made false announcement(signed by Daniel Shulayev and approved by his father Boris, in the time when both Republia co-founders and advisor worked in Minex) about leading european bank buying a share in Minex(which was registred 9 months later and was not possible at that time) for 1705.44 BTCs, just to avoid to return money to investors,because they didnt succeed to realize pre-ICO selling. Such negative audacity to do anything to avoid to return money to investors would scare the hell out any investor.It puts major SCAM sign on the project. No investor would like to see such negative reputation. You are right that both economic models(which are same) Republia and Minex was not created by fools.These people have economic education and that fact scares me even more,because it means that Minex fall and Republia copy of Minex economic model was made on purpose to be unsustainable.Bad consequences for investors were not coincidence,but intention. People with economic education would know from the beginning that 70% interest rate will cause hyperinflation and make any price regulation attempt futile. They knew that promises to investors of massive interest and tight regulating of price was lie from the beginning ,made as a trap for naive and greedy people.Making in Minex OTC option only for selling coins is not coincidence,but intention,because everybody,not just people with economics education know that OTC selling without rebuying option will cause constant price decline which we all witnessed in Minex. That is SCAM sign No.2. Nobody from Republia team ever gives any explanation how Minex proved unsustainable economic model will make better in Republia and why. In this case I would call on Einstein quote " Stupidity is doing same thing over and over and expecting different results"I'll tell you a clever thing. If the goal was to conceal a team with something, and in this case "links with minexcoin", could it hide it? I will give the answer for you - in the end, yes. Did someone do this? Of course not. Therefore, it is not necessary to look for some otherworldly connection. Republia is an open project and even it will take into account the experience and shortcomings of other projects .. This is also not a secret. Further. Please do not lead the conversation in such a way that the event has already happened, namely the collapse of the "financial system". This is especially true of the Republia project, which has not even passed the ICO stage yet, and you have already decided its fate in the future. Do not make yourself a professor of economics. Needless to say, you're smarter than everyone. It is your opinion. The opinion of the team is painted in white paper, but not in the fullest extent. I will not speak for minexcoin plans - that is their business. I can not imagine them, but just an ordinary investor. The Republia project is discussed here. ps Moreover, do not fantasize about the bank in which the cards are issued. Well, you do not know! Why are you doing libel now that cards will be issued in Ukraine? I repeat - you want to discuss the Minexcoin project - they have their own topic. You are right about one thing - Republia cant conceals connection with Minex despite all theirs denial.It is futile job. Republia and Minex has different whitelist,no doubt in it.But Iam not questioning Republia whitelist ,Iam questioning integrity of people who lead it .What they did in Minex pre-ICO phase was deliberate lying of investors how pre- ICO selling was successfull.Doing it, they avoided to return money to investors. That was not some minor offence,but major breaking of investors rights and trust.In business world they will go to jail for that. Another question - if Republia leadsership wanted to make a break from Minex why they put Boris Shulayev as advisor? About what he can advise them,after trashing disaster with Minex? How to ruin everything and get away with it? He can be just liability,not asset. Putting Boris as advisor they were put only big warning sign to all investors - Danger ! Scam in progress ! About financial model of Republia - mine question is why Republia leaders didnt make any meaningful explanation to investors how and why they think that Minex financial model which Republia using would not make another crash ,now with Republia. To explain it to you little more colorful - after some time, people realized that one type of cars has a construction defective brakes which can be deadly to drivers and passengers.Now,you go to buy car and cars salesman wants to sell you similar,new type of car ,but with same defective brakes.You ask salesman isnt such defective brakes gonna kill me and he replies to you: Dont worry ,just drive ,everything will be OK. Will you believe to him?? ps. Didnt want to talk about Minex card here,just responded to Jollygood question So, I found out that your only “distrust” argument for Republia is that Boris is an adviser? I remind you that, apart from Boris, there are 3 other advisers who are no less competent than him. No wonder that he acts as a guarantor of investments in mnx. All of your “facts” are not as such, since you have no evidence — for example, copies of papers, contracts, or direct witnesses. This is just your attitude to the project. Therefore, to continue the discussion further probably does not make sense. I heard you. Financial model Republia working. I am grateful for your opinion, but the team itself expects what it should be and what its goals are. The goal of higher interest rates for the first time is to saturate the market with additional liquidity, and moreover gradual. Unlike EOS, which released almost 90% of its tokens as a result of ICO within a few months, Republia reduced this number (full pre-mine) almost 7 times, which will positively affect the price of the coin. Further, the bank’s interest will be reduced to the minimum to ensure a long-term model for 25 years of coin mining. - Republia financial model is copy of Minex - same parking program and rate ,same undefined price tight regulations, same debit payments program... This model proved catastrophical in Minex and nobody from Republia team give any reasonable explanation how this program will not cause collapse of Republia too.You are talking that they will make some changes in program, but you are not member of Republia team and your words have not weight as theirs - until they put changes in official whitelist I cant take it for granted. Taking EOS is a bad example. EOS raised 4 billion dollars ! They had so much buyers that even 1 billion tokens were not enough. That is complete different situation. You said: "The goal of higher interest rates for the first time is to saturate the market with additional liquidity, and moreover gradual. " That is so wrong.Saturation of market with coins in situation when you dont know how big is real demand is a recipe for disaster(it will suck up all liquidity from the market) and puts a red flag on team incompetence too. During initial phase you have to slowly releasing coins until balance between buy and sell side is reached. After it ,you need to have tools and funds to maintain it. Republia didnt predicted having such tools or funding for them(just look at theirs expenses sheet list),so they will not be able to do it. I give the answer to the second question. - The fact that Republia took the idea of a bank from mainexcoin is no one denies. And why is this amazing? Do you know whose idea it was originally? And if this was the idea of Vladyslav Gyrych several years ago, then he could use it as well in Republia? The answer - of course he could. And nothing is bad here. Tomorrow (maybe) some sort of coin will also take this idea, because how good is it and what now? At a minimum, the financial banking system is very different. Read white paper. And do not make people laugh .. - About the cards even more fun. Why can't Republia use them? If she has her own branded cards, her own financial system, ultrafast blockchain, a real bank, etc. May use. Any project can use. - EOS is not a bad example, but the most correct one. The main reason: it will be the main competitor of the RPB. Competing RPB will be its innovative blockchain, transaction speed, user security, platform for creating ICO, platform for asset exchange, and much more ... And the amount of fees for ICO is not an indication that the project will be successful, but quite the opposite . The fact that EOS collected such huge funds and still cannot show anything worthwhile is very bad. Such a huge saturation of the market with tokens, namely more than 90% of the total issue of coins - this is the maximum demand. There will not be so many buyers to pick them up. This is absurd. Republia, in turn, does a lot smarter. Instead of not overdubbing the market with coins, after the end of the ICO only 15% of the total number of coins will be issued. Further, the RPB will very smoothly (within 2 years) saturate the market with coins, and then make this saturation minimal. So. Thereby: 1. There will always be increased demand, as the number of coins is limited and moves smoothly. 2. It will be possible to take measures to reduce volatility due to a sharp increase (decrease in demand). 3. To stimulate the holders of the nodes and masternode for many years of coin mining. Sometimes it seems to me that you have not read any RPB documents and say absolutely weird things. So you think that selling 90% of all coins (or 100%) at the ICO stage is normal, and 15% is not normal. Strange. P.S. Regarding your "facts", I ask you not to use words of such a meaning: - Naturally - Undoubtedly - I see - It is already given, etc. All your words, like mine, that are related to internal RPB or MNX documents, which are not attached by facts in the form of copies (photos) of documents, video (audio) or written statements of team members - are not FACT. This conjecture, reasoning, discussion, desires, etc. Yes, I am not part of the RPB team, but I am their representative (ambassador) and have the right to discuss the project. If I need to know some details, I ask the co-founder and get a response from the original source of the Republia team (or I don’t get it if it is completely secret). That is the difference between me and you here. And if you don’t like to read my answers, since you think that I’m not competent, I don’t force you. Thank you for understanding. Finally admittion that Republia and Minex shares same financial model. Thank you ! But mine question is why Republia is using this model which already proved as deeply flawed in Minex case? Sure ,Republia can use same financial model as Minex but why is that despite all its flaws, it remains mystery. It is like putting company in self-destruct mode from the beginning. Republia cant compete with EOS. Period. EOS is 1000x bigger and far more serious project,financed by more than 4 billion dollars,backing by many big investors and companies. You can only dream to have such financial and technical support as EOS.I stayed speechless on your assumption that EOS didnt accomplish anything.Go to theirs site and see for yourself how is that "little".They are working in full speed. EOS didnt saturated market at all,but demand for theirs tokens largely overwhelmed supply.Huge difference. Republia wants to saturate market without knowing the size of demand.Minex did it and we all know what happenned when supply overwhelmed demand.Basic economics - flooding market with coins when demand is low goes to hyperinflation.That is why is so wrong to compare EOS and Republia financial models. It is irrelevant will you put 15 or 90% of tokens on the market. What is matter is how big demand for them is.You can put only 5% of total supply on market ,but if demand is for just 2%, the price of it will decline significantly.Size of demand should define size of supply,not opposite. Republia is far smaller project than EOS ,so it should be extra carefull not to flood market with too many coins and certainly have to reject parking option because it is major cause of hyperinflation in the system and leaves mining as only source of new coins.No way you can make stable system with 70% parking rate. So,if Republia persists on present model I can explain only that as they are incompetent amateurs in economics which do not know demand-supply relation or that system is intentionally made flawed to attract naive and greedy people with big parking rates and promises of price regulation which cant be fulfilled. Honestly, I dont mind because you are not official RPB team member.Though I think that would be much better for any project if its creators will speak directly much more with community. Listen to community ,dont be stubborn,because it is potential investors and as we all know - buyer is always right. |
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Just to let users here know (again) that I have several propaganda spreading fools on IGNORE so if you see posts that I have not replied to or am not replying to then it is probably because I cannot read their posts as I find whatever they post to be nonsense especially from paid trolls.
Looking in to this a little more it seems Minexpay/Minexsystem/Minexcoin are using an existing card supplier for all the work. Even to top up it will take place using the card issuer system so what exactly is Minexpay doing?
Minex is doing exactly what I was described in mine previous posts - illegally using other issuer cards as their owns which is strictly forbidden by VISA/Mastercard. Obviously they are so self-confident that they can outsmart card issuers,so they are pushing these non-branded cards no matter it is not allowed. They think how other companies which followed laws and regulations and issued branded cards are stupid. It is just one last sign that Minex went rogue and not care any more for laws and regulations. Unfortunately for users,it will end badly for them when Mastercard cancel cards and freeze accounts.That is reason why Minex is hiding real card issuer.Top secret, 007 cards . People are pushing to use cards without knowing who is real card issuer, card fees,limits ... |
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nice sale, managed to pick up some more MNX @ 0.00018 btc. Haven't read this thread in 1-2 months.. But i see little has changed. I dont understand these people, who go on and on and about same thing. Jollygood, u have 1 point: in your opinion mnx is a scam, i get it. You should have said it once and then off you go to your next adventure.... how and why are you going on for 500 messages and more about that i dont understand. People like you are killing this forum... U're not the only one like this tho (one other ico i invested in, there was a guy screaming scam for more than 1.5 years and 1100 posts...) What is this madness are you even human beings? Anyway, its hard to read news concerning MNX with all this white noice on this thread. Good luck on the card! TO MNX TEAM: Hey, if you are still looking for ways to get your card out, maybe u shld contact Prasos Oy ( www.prasos.fi). Its a Finnish company, that owns and operates worlds first BTC-ATM:s, that are located in several cities over finland. They work simply, like, you pay with bitcoin, and get cash out of the machine. or you pay with cash and receive bitcoin. Maybe you should look into this possibility. Did you think that maybe people have an ugly feeling that they are scammed from the MNX team? He promises many things in this project, but very few of them was realized. what do you think about investors? He invested his money and now they have only dust from there? Devs just saying soon, soon for a year. Indeed till now all crypto card based projects are under big trouble to provide a working product. It is long time ago when they promised all people will get their cards and after this we see only delay after delay and just promises sooner this dream will become true. The card is already available and some people will have their branded card today Thanks for information! So we know it is not branded card - do you maybe have some other informations? Do you know who is real card issuer - bank or some other company and what is its name ? |
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I just frankly admit that for me it is very strange when you blamed the project for scam, insulted the team, the participants and me with lies, etc. , and now speak as politely as if nothing had happened. But I am a normal person, so I can close my eyes to past events if you really conduct a "friendly conversation." I have a different version of events to you. I would unequivocally put the blame for the drop in etiquette on you and those that were blindly pumping Minexsystem/Minexcoin/Minexpay and Republia or doing it because they were receiving a payment. That then provoked a reaction from those that saw the misinformation/lies promoting non-existent business deals with CSOB and without even making relevant checks about Novarise as outright lies and scam. Having said that, regardless of all differing opinions I have no interest in engaging with anybody unless it remains on cordial terms. Minexsystem/Minexpay/Minexcoin seems to be working towards something far better than they were a few weeks ago. I would welcome any real progress on that project. About Republia, I still have seen nothing so far that alleviates my concerns about it being a scam but that might change in the coming days/weeks You either do not understand the essence of fraudulent projects, or are too absorbed in searching for fraudulent projects, which, in your opinion, is a complete deception. Look around - in fact, there are hundreds of coins that have not done anything even from the very first step, but simply deceived and hid. They do not need to wait more than 2 years to do a dirty business. And now from all these projects you have chosen Minex - the largest fraud in your opinion, which, in turn, has no direct relation to the Republic, but, nevertheless, you have already accused her of fraud. I just do not understand why you are doing this? Much work has been done, no one hides their faces, their names, their location, their telephone numbers, etc. Fully open to dialogue. But do you think scammers do it? Yes, look around again! Just projects collect money, even without everything from work, even without an action plan, hiding people, etc., and people donate money. Why are you not there? Why not protect poor people? Or do you think that I have invested 10,000 dollars in the Republic (let's say), I do not understand what this project will be, and I would not see fraudsters? Of course, I would see it, since another investor is not a novice. Not everyone is stupid, especially now. This is not 2017. Everyone studies the project in length and across and assesses prospects, risks and legality ... Therefore, if you engage in dialogue and doubt something, it does not mean that you are right in your opinion. Every person is right in his own way. But to assert without direct confirmed (I emphasize) the facts that there is no need for lies and fraud. It looks like slander. Unfortunately,there is direct connection between Minex and Republia and it is impossible to negate.You can negate only if you dont want to see it.Minex and Republia do not share only same people, but almost same financial program with minor, irrelevant differencies.Only different part is whitelist technical plan. I do not make judgements easily,but there is a few things which can make every investor very,very cautious: - Both Republia founders, Daniel Shulayev and Vladimir Gyrych and advisor Boris Shulayev worked/work in Minex. 16.Dec.2016,while in pre-ICO, Minex gave statement to different crypto news portals,signed by PR manager,Daniel Shulayev(certainly approved by Boris) how Minex made a contract with one of the leading european banks to buy share in Minex by buying 1,092 millions of MNX for 1705.44 BTCs. Now,we know it was a lie.Big one.Banks do not pay in BTCs and in that time Minex didnt exist as a company.It was founded 9 months later in 22.Aug.2017,so it was impossible to buy share in non-existing company.Reason for that lie was Minex obligation to refund investors if pre-ICO was unsuccessfull.This way they avoided it. Question is how to believe to these people now,when they proved themselves as willing to do anything just not to return money to investors? It is valid question and in bussiness trust is extremely important.They didnt do minor but major violation of investors rights. - why Republia took Boris Shulayev as an advisor? After disastruosly leading of Minex ,taking him as an advisor is sending very bad impression to potential investors and make any attempt to negate relations to Minex futile - Republia whitelist is much more serious and difficult to achieve than Minex list.Costly too.Minex didnt succeed to realize much simplier list.By their own admission,Republia will need several years to achieve goals if everything goes well.For that time Republia will use ICO collected money and selling premined coins. For investors it means that Republia would not be able to keep promise about maintain exchange rate in tight range due to lack of funds for it.Not without massive external financing.On the contrary, using premined coins for financing will make situation even worse.As time passes, initial funds will be depleted and Republia will need to sell more and more coins to finance developping.It will make greater and greater pressure on market and price and one by one,investors would dump theirs coins with a loss.Then,Republia will need to sell even more coins to finance it and here we come in vicious cycle of hyperinflation generated by parking 70% rate and premined coins selling,like Minex did. Now,a month before ICO sale ,despite promises to change financial plan,Republia did nothing.Every investor before initial sale would like to see these changes of financial plan and not to rely on ICO leadership promises.Promises that something will be done after sale, no investor will buy as a truth. All above problems made me very,very sceptical about project.When someone make ICO based on a disastruos financial construction (proved in earlier ICO),with a lot of same people involved in it, I cant qualify that any more as incompetence but as an intetion. This is why this project has so high probabilty to turn scam.Not because people fudding it,but because serious problems and flaws described in text above. I will answer you, although I asked questions to another user and not at all about what you write to me, what I asked. Unfortunately, you want to wishful thinking. There is no direct connection between projects. If you consider the kinship of the consultant Boris and his son, one of the co-founder Daniel, direct linking of the projects is stupid. Did Daniel create his project and this is a connection? What nonsense. Direct communication is a complete copying of an idea, copying products, a blockchain, etc ... This is not the case here. Absolutely new innovative blockchain, which is written from scratch, not fork. Absolutely innovative opportunities to create contracts and projects on a new platform. Absolutely innovative approach to security and the ability to integrate other projects ... And a lot of things .... Did you read white paper? What is the connection with minexcoin? Bank? So even it is modified and will act according to its algorithm, in different directions ... Therefore, do not be silly. Yes. All your judgments that supposedly "not enough money", "not enough coins" - this is only your opinion and desire. The financial model was created not by fools, but by people who have an economic education. Well, you can not know what will be implemented after the fact, you can not know what will be modified, because the project completely eliminates hard forks and is subject to change, depending on the participants жeл desires ’by voting. And I appreciate your concern for your concern with the Republia project, but you read the questions I wrote earlier and answer them better. How did Republia deserve such attention? Why not hundreds of other projects that are really scam? I understand that nothing just happens. And once you are here, it means that you are pursuing some goals. Therefore, I am very “skeptical” about your sincerity ... Iam sincere believe or not. I have not desire to ruin anything just to clarify some things that are worring any investor. As you could read in mine post , when I linked Minex and Republia I specified that connection between 2 projects are in people and in financial part ,not whitelist.Core of the Republia team and Minex is the same,financial part is copy of Minex one,so this connection is very real. Major problem is trust. How to trust people which made false announcement(signed by Daniel Shulayev and approved by his father Boris, in the time when both Republia co-founders and advisor worked in Minex) about leading european bank buying a share in Minex(which was registred 9 months later and was not possible at that time) for 1705.44 BTCs, just to avoid to return money to investors,because they didnt succeed to realize pre-ICO selling. Such negative audacity to do anything to avoid to return money to investors would scare the hell out any investor.It puts major SCAM sign on the project. No investor would like to see such negative reputation. You are right that both economic models(which are same) Republia and Minex was not created by fools.These people have economic education and that fact scares me even more,because it means that Minex fall and Republia copy of Minex economic model was made on purpose to be unsustainable.Bad consequences for investors were not coincidence,but intention. People with economic education would know from the beginning that 70% interest rate will cause hyperinflation and make any price regulation attempt futile. They knew that promises to investors of massive interest and tight regulating of price was lie from the beginning ,made as a trap for naive and greedy people.Making in Minex OTC option only for selling coins is not coincidence,but intention,because everybody,not just people with economics education know that OTC selling without rebuying option will cause constant price decline which we all witnessed in Minex. That is SCAM sign No.2. Nobody from Republia team ever gives any explanation how Minex proved unsustainable economic model will make better in Republia and why. In this case I would call on Einstein quote " Stupidity is doing same thing over and over and expecting different results"I'll tell you a clever thing. If the goal was to conceal a team with something, and in this case "links with minexcoin", could it hide it? I will give the answer for you - in the end, yes. Did someone do this? Of course not. Therefore, it is not necessary to look for some otherworldly connection. Republia is an open project and even it will take into account the experience and shortcomings of other projects .. This is also not a secret. Further. Please do not lead the conversation in such a way that the event has already happened, namely the collapse of the "financial system". This is especially true of the Republia project, which has not even passed the ICO stage yet, and you have already decided its fate in the future. Do not make yourself a professor of economics. Needless to say, you're smarter than everyone. It is your opinion. The opinion of the team is painted in white paper, but not in the fullest extent. I will not speak for minexcoin plans - that is their business. I can not imagine them, but just an ordinary investor. The Republia project is discussed here. ps Moreover, do not fantasize about the bank in which the cards are issued. Well, you do not know! Why are you doing libel now that cards will be issued in Ukraine? I repeat - you want to discuss the Minexcoin project - they have their own topic. You are right about one thing - Republia cant conceals connection with Minex despite all theirs denial.It is futile job. Republia and Minex has different whitelist,no doubt in it.But Iam not questioning Republia whitelist ,Iam questioning integrity of people who lead it .What they did in Minex pre-ICO phase was deliberate lying of investors how pre- ICO selling was successfull.Doing it, they avoided to return money to investors. That was not some minor offence,but major breaking of investors rights and trust.In business world they will go to jail for that. Another question - if Republia leadsership wanted to make a break from Minex why they put Boris Shulayev as advisor? About what he can advise them,after trashing disaster with Minex? How to ruin everything and get away with it? He can be just liability,not asset. Putting Boris as advisor they were put only big warning sign to all investors - Danger ! Scam in progress ! About financial model of Republia - mine question is why Republia leaders didnt make any meaningful explanation to investors how and why they think that Minex financial model which Republia using would not make another crash ,now with Republia. To explain it to you little more colorful - after some time, people realized that one type of cars has a construction defective brakes which can be deadly to drivers and passengers.Now,you go to buy car and cars salesman wants to sell you similar,new type of car ,but with same defective brakes.You ask salesman isnt such defective brakes gonna kill me and he replies to you: Dont worry ,just drive ,everything will be OK. Will you believe to him?? ps. Didnt want to talk about Minex card here,just responded to Jollygood question So, I found out that your only “distrust” argument for Republia is that Boris is an adviser? I remind you that, apart from Boris, there are 3 other advisers who are no less competent than him. No wonder that he acts as a guarantor of investments in mnx. All of your “facts” are not as such, since you have no evidence — for example, copies of papers, contracts, or direct witnesses. This is just your attitude to the project. Therefore, to continue the discussion further probably does not make sense. I heard you. Financial model Republia working. I am grateful for your opinion, but the team itself expects what it should be and what its goals are. The goal of higher interest rates for the first time is to saturate the market with additional liquidity, and moreover gradual. Unlike EOS, which released almost 90% of its tokens as a result of ICO within a few months, Republia reduced this number (full pre-mine) almost 7 times, which will positively affect the price of the coin. Further, the bank’s interest will be reduced to the minimum to ensure a long-term model for 25 years of coin mining. Taking Boris as advisor is just one of reasons why I dont believe to Republia team.But certainly not major ones. As i said and I will repeat it once again: Major reason No1:- Both Republia founders, Daniel Shulayev and Vladimir Gyrych and advisor Boris Shulayev worked/work in Minex. 16.Dec.2016,while in pre-ICO, Minex gave statement to different crypto news portals,signed by PR manager,Daniel Shulayev(certainly approved by Boris) how Minex made a contract with one of the leading european banks to buy share in Minex by buying 1,092 millions of MNX for 1705.44 BTCs.
https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/minecoin-completes-first-stage-of-ico-ahead-of-schedulehttps://www.nxter.org/minecoin-cryptocurrency-platform-completes-first-stage-of-ico-ahead-of-schedule/ It was a lie.Big one. Banks do not pay in BTCs and in that time Minex didnt exist as a company.It was founded 9 months later in 22.Aug.2017,so it was impossible to buy share in non-existing company.Reason for that lie was Minex obligation to refund investors if pre-ICO was unsuccessfull.This way they avoided it. Question is how to believe to these people now,when they proved themselves as willing to do anything just not to return money to investors? It is valid question and in bussiness trust is extremely important.They didnt do minor but major violation of investors rights. them(just look at theirs expenses sheet list),so they will not be able to do it. To begin with, I want to say that you did not appear (and were not previously) part of the minexcoin command (previously minecoin), so your all judgments are just your opinion - no more. No need to refer to any foreign publications as there are official sources of the company. And the company tells as much as it sees fit. To assert that a bank can do and cannot do - you need to work in a bank or own it (do you happen to work there? No? Have not even doubted), or at least know from "external" information sources that banks can also to act as market makers and even trade on the markets and exchanges, of course, legally. It may have various funds in its subdivision ... To confirm, I provide a link to the article of 2015 (for example): https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/french-bitcoin-revolution-bnp-paribas-plans-add-crypto-its-currency-funds-1512360 Please do not mislead people with false information. I repeat: banks can invest in any project, if not directly, then using other opportunities. And the most important, with regard to a million coins, the company officially announced this information: https://medium.com/@minecoinorg/minecoin-q-a-8ded1b0db1f1Therefore, you do not need to invent anything and fantasize. But let us return back to the question that minexcoin cospania did not exist at that time - yes, that is true. Then there was the minecoin company. Officially, it was announced about the rebranding of the company and became minexcoin: https://twitter.com/minexcoin/status/847502788275732482Honestly, I no longer have a desire to respond to your "facts", especially as they concern minexcoin. If you have any doubts or concerns about the minexcoin project - you can express them to the official branch, you can contact its management with a request about your "lack of sleep" regarding their accuracy and honesty. But here it is concrete - Minexcoin is not directly related to the Republia project, except for the indirect - family ties and some employees (in the past). Republia is an independent project, with its goal, which is more advanced (perhaps) than others - we will see this after the fact. Therefore, I will not give in to your "provocations" anymore. Only talk on this important topic topic. Everything. Thank you for understanding. p.s. The answer to the second question I will give you in the near future. You keep avoiding to give any meaningful answer to mine questions.None,just trying to sell me Minex/Republia propaganda combined with empty denunciation. If I would act like you, I could say - you are not member of Minex/Republia team,your answers to me are completely irrelevant and based not on facts ,but on personal interests and opinions due to investing money in these companies. How that sound to you ? But I wont act like you ,so Iam returning to explain things based on facts: - I just put links to crypto portals ,so people on forum can read for themselves about things Iam talking about. These portals didnt publish some journalist opinions.They published paid articles by Minex without making any changes or some other interfering.So, these are offical Minex press releases,signed by then Minex PR Daniel Shulayev and authorized by Boris Shulayev and its authenticity cant be challenged.
In this case you are misleading people trying unsuccessfully to present them as untrue or irrelevant. - I know very well what bank can or cant do.I worked in banking sector for 8 years and mine present job is very closely related on cooperation with banks.Will you believe me or not it is your problem.My words and mine knowledge are talking for themselves. - 16.Dec.2016,while in pre-ICO, Minex gave statement to different crypto news portals,signed by PR manager,Daniel Shulayev(certainly approved by Boris) how Minex made a contract with one of the leading european banks to buy share in Minex by buying 1,092 millions of MNX for 1705.44 BTCs. It was a big lie,made due to Minex obligation to refund investors if pre-ICO was unsuccessfull.This way they avoided it. - Banks are always paying in fiat currencies,not BTCs. Everywhere,on exchanges,spot markets, banks are paying in fiat.They can sell on markets whatever they want ,but buying is always in fiat.If you didnt know before ,know you do. There is not at one case that big banks paid someone in BTC. Ever. It is prohibited by law which does not allow paying in anything else but official fiat currencies for international payings and domestic for payings inside the country.So this alleged contract between leading european bank and Minex is just pure,big, fat lie.No single evidence it ever occured except in Boris and his son vivid imagination - In that time Minex wasnt founded yet. It was founded 9 months later. From mine own experience banks are very cautions when investing.There are teams of different financial experts and lawers who are thoroughly examine every single aspect of potetnial investment. They will NEVER give recomendation to buy a share in the company which is not officially registred. Absolutely never,especially not for anonymous pre-ICO virtual companies like Minex or Republia.- https://medium.com/@minecoinorg/minecoin-q-a-8ded1b0db1f1 - just another lie to cover previous one. Of course there was no any deal with a european leading bank. As I said before, banks are not paying in BTCs and not investing in officially unregistred companies.It was basically impossible to invest in Minex because it was not officially registred company at that time. In March 2017 Minex was not officially registred yet . It was registred more than 5 months later on 22.Aug.2017. It just means that it is some murky recognition that pre-ICO was unsuccessfull,but even then Minex didnt return money to investors,despite it was theirs obligation. Instead, it went to another,ICO phase pretending like everything is fine.This pretending that everything is OK when it is not, became hallmark of Minex later. - https://twitter.com/minexcoin/status/847502788275732482 - Look carefully. Tweet was made on March 30th.2017 and Minex was officially registred on 22.August.2017. 5 months later. It was not rebranding one officially registred company into another,but one virtual company into another virtual company.This virtual and completely unregulated reality was the main reason why 95% of all ICOs were scam plots. |
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I just frankly admit that for me it is very strange when you blamed the project for scam, insulted the team, the participants and me with lies, etc. , and now speak as politely as if nothing had happened. But I am a normal person, so I can close my eyes to past events if you really conduct a "friendly conversation." I have a different version of events to you. I would unequivocally put the blame for the drop in etiquette on you and those that were blindly pumping Minexsystem/Minexcoin/Minexpay and Republia or doing it because they were receiving a payment. That then provoked a reaction from those that saw the misinformation/lies promoting non-existent business deals with CSOB and without even making relevant checks about Novarise as outright lies and scam. Having said that, regardless of all differing opinions I have no interest in engaging with anybody unless it remains on cordial terms. Minexsystem/Minexpay/Minexcoin seems to be working towards something far better than they were a few weeks ago. I would welcome any real progress on that project. About Republia, I still have seen nothing so far that alleviates my concerns about it being a scam but that might change in the coming days/weeks You either do not understand the essence of fraudulent projects, or are too absorbed in searching for fraudulent projects, which, in your opinion, is a complete deception. Look around - in fact, there are hundreds of coins that have not done anything even from the very first step, but simply deceived and hid. They do not need to wait more than 2 years to do a dirty business. And now from all these projects you have chosen Minex - the largest fraud in your opinion, which, in turn, has no direct relation to the Republic, but, nevertheless, you have already accused her of fraud. I just do not understand why you are doing this? Much work has been done, no one hides their faces, their names, their location, their telephone numbers, etc. Fully open to dialogue. But do you think scammers do it? Yes, look around again! Just projects collect money, even without everything from work, even without an action plan, hiding people, etc., and people donate money. Why are you not there? Why not protect poor people? Or do you think that I have invested 10,000 dollars in the Republic (let's say), I do not understand what this project will be, and I would not see fraudsters? Of course, I would see it, since another investor is not a novice. Not everyone is stupid, especially now. This is not 2017. Everyone studies the project in length and across and assesses prospects, risks and legality ... Therefore, if you engage in dialogue and doubt something, it does not mean that you are right in your opinion. Every person is right in his own way. But to assert without direct confirmed (I emphasize) the facts that there is no need for lies and fraud. It looks like slander. Unfortunately,there is direct connection between Minex and Republia and it is impossible to negate.You can negate only if you dont want to see it.Minex and Republia do not share only same people, but almost same financial program with minor, irrelevant differencies.Only different part is whitelist technical plan. I do not make judgements easily,but there is a few things which can make every investor very,very cautious: - Both Republia founders, Daniel Shulayev and Vladimir Gyrych and advisor Boris Shulayev worked/work in Minex. 16.Dec.2016,while in pre-ICO, Minex gave statement to different crypto news portals,signed by PR manager,Daniel Shulayev(certainly approved by Boris) how Minex made a contract with one of the leading european banks to buy share in Minex by buying 1,092 millions of MNX for 1705.44 BTCs. Now,we know it was a lie.Big one.Banks do not pay in BTCs and in that time Minex didnt exist as a company.It was founded 9 months later in 22.Aug.2017,so it was impossible to buy share in non-existing company.Reason for that lie was Minex obligation to refund investors if pre-ICO was unsuccessfull.This way they avoided it. Question is how to believe to these people now,when they proved themselves as willing to do anything just not to return money to investors? It is valid question and in bussiness trust is extremely important.They didnt do minor but major violation of investors rights. - why Republia took Boris Shulayev as an advisor? After disastruosly leading of Minex ,taking him as an advisor is sending very bad impression to potential investors and make any attempt to negate relations to Minex futile - Republia whitelist is much more serious and difficult to achieve than Minex list.Costly too.Minex didnt succeed to realize much simplier list.By their own admission,Republia will need several years to achieve goals if everything goes well.For that time Republia will use ICO collected money and selling premined coins. For investors it means that Republia would not be able to keep promise about maintain exchange rate in tight range due to lack of funds for it.Not without massive external financing.On the contrary, using premined coins for financing will make situation even worse.As time passes, initial funds will be depleted and Republia will need to sell more and more coins to finance developping.It will make greater and greater pressure on market and price and one by one,investors would dump theirs coins with a loss.Then,Republia will need to sell even more coins to finance it and here we come in vicious cycle of hyperinflation generated by parking 70% rate and premined coins selling,like Minex did. Now,a month before ICO sale ,despite promises to change financial plan,Republia did nothing.Every investor before initial sale would like to see these changes of financial plan and not to rely on ICO leadership promises.Promises that something will be done after sale, no investor will buy as a truth. All above problems made me very,very sceptical about project.When someone make ICO based on a disastruos financial construction (proved in earlier ICO),with a lot of same people involved in it, I cant qualify that any more as incompetence but as an intetion. This is why this project has so high probabilty to turn scam.Not because people fudding it,but because serious problems and flaws described in text above. I will answer you, although I asked questions to another user and not at all about what you write to me, what I asked. Unfortunately, you want to wishful thinking. There is no direct connection between projects. If you consider the kinship of the consultant Boris and his son, one of the co-founder Daniel, direct linking of the projects is stupid. Did Daniel create his project and this is a connection? What nonsense. Direct communication is a complete copying of an idea, copying products, a blockchain, etc ... This is not the case here. Absolutely new innovative blockchain, which is written from scratch, not fork. Absolutely innovative opportunities to create contracts and projects on a new platform. Absolutely innovative approach to security and the ability to integrate other projects ... And a lot of things .... Did you read white paper? What is the connection with minexcoin? Bank? So even it is modified and will act according to its algorithm, in different directions ... Therefore, do not be silly. Yes. All your judgments that supposedly "not enough money", "not enough coins" - this is only your opinion and desire. The financial model was created not by fools, but by people who have an economic education. Well, you can not know what will be implemented after the fact, you can not know what will be modified, because the project completely eliminates hard forks and is subject to change, depending on the participants жeл desires ’by voting. And I appreciate your concern for your concern with the Republia project, but you read the questions I wrote earlier and answer them better. How did Republia deserve such attention? Why not hundreds of other projects that are really scam? I understand that nothing just happens. And once you are here, it means that you are pursuing some goals. Therefore, I am very “skeptical” about your sincerity ... Iam sincere believe or not. I have not desire to ruin anything just to clarify some things that are worring any investor. As you could read in mine post , when I linked Minex and Republia I specified that connection between 2 projects are in people and in financial part ,not whitelist.Core of the Republia team and Minex is the same,financial part is copy of Minex one,so this connection is very real. Major problem is trust. How to trust people which made false announcement(signed by Daniel Shulayev and approved by his father Boris, in the time when both Republia co-founders and advisor worked in Minex) about leading european bank buying a share in Minex(which was registred 9 months later and was not possible at that time) for 1705.44 BTCs, just to avoid to return money to investors,because they didnt succeed to realize pre-ICO selling. Such negative audacity to do anything to avoid to return money to investors would scare the hell out any investor.It puts major SCAM sign on the project. No investor would like to see such negative reputation. You are right that both economic models(which are same) Republia and Minex was not created by fools.These people have economic education and that fact scares me even more,because it means that Minex fall and Republia copy of Minex economic model was made on purpose to be unsustainable.Bad consequences for investors were not coincidence,but intention. People with economic education would know from the beginning that 70% interest rate will cause hyperinflation and make any price regulation attempt futile. They knew that promises to investors of massive interest and tight regulating of price was lie from the beginning ,made as a trap for naive and greedy people.Making in Minex OTC option only for selling coins is not coincidence,but intention,because everybody,not just people with economics education know that OTC selling without rebuying option will cause constant price decline which we all witnessed in Minex. That is SCAM sign No.2. Nobody from Republia team ever gives any explanation how Minex proved unsustainable economic model will make better in Republia and why. In this case I would call on Einstein quote " Stupidity is doing same thing over and over and expecting different results"I'll tell you a clever thing. If the goal was to conceal a team with something, and in this case "links with minexcoin", could it hide it? I will give the answer for you - in the end, yes. Did someone do this? Of course not. Therefore, it is not necessary to look for some otherworldly connection. Republia is an open project and even it will take into account the experience and shortcomings of other projects .. This is also not a secret. Further. Please do not lead the conversation in such a way that the event has already happened, namely the collapse of the "financial system". This is especially true of the Republia project, which has not even passed the ICO stage yet, and you have already decided its fate in the future. Do not make yourself a professor of economics. Needless to say, you're smarter than everyone. It is your opinion. The opinion of the team is painted in white paper, but not in the fullest extent. I will not speak for minexcoin plans - that is their business. I can not imagine them, but just an ordinary investor. The Republia project is discussed here. ps Moreover, do not fantasize about the bank in which the cards are issued. Well, you do not know! Why are you doing libel now that cards will be issued in Ukraine? I repeat - you want to discuss the Minexcoin project - they have their own topic. You are right about one thing - Republia cant conceals connection with Minex despite all theirs denial.It is futile job. Republia and Minex has different whitelist,no doubt in it.But Iam not questioning Republia whitelist ,Iam questioning integrity of people who lead it .What they did in Minex pre-ICO phase was deliberate lying of investors how pre- ICO selling was successfull.Doing it, they avoided to return money to investors. That was not some minor offence,but major breaking of investors rights and trust.In business world they will go to jail for that. Another question - if Republia leadsership wanted to make a break from Minex why they put Boris Shulayev as advisor? About what he can advise them,after trashing disaster with Minex? How to ruin everything and get away with it? He can be just liability,not asset. Putting Boris as advisor they were put only big warning sign to all investors - Danger ! Scam in progress ! About financial model of Republia - mine question is why Republia leaders didnt make any meaningful explanation to investors how and why they think that Minex financial model which Republia using would not make another crash ,now with Republia. To explain it to you little more colorful - after some time, people realized that one type of cars has a construction defective brakes which can be deadly to drivers and passengers.Now,you go to buy car and cars salesman wants to sell you similar,new type of car ,but with same defective brakes.You ask salesman isnt such defective brakes gonna kill me and he replies to you: Dont worry ,just drive ,everything will be OK. Will you believe to him?? ps. Didnt want to talk about Minex card here,just responded to Jollygood question So, I found out that your only “distrust” argument for Republia is that Boris is an adviser? I remind you that, apart from Boris, there are 3 other advisers who are no less competent than him. No wonder that he acts as a guarantor of investments in mnx. All of your “facts” are not as such, since you have no evidence — for example, copies of papers, contracts, or direct witnesses. This is just your attitude to the project. Therefore, to continue the discussion further probably does not make sense. I heard you. Financial model Republia working. I am grateful for your opinion, but the team itself expects what it should be and what its goals are. The goal of higher interest rates for the first time is to saturate the market with additional liquidity, and moreover gradual. Unlike EOS, which released almost 90% of its tokens as a result of ICO within a few months, Republia reduced this number (full pre-mine) almost 7 times, which will positively affect the price of the coin. Further, the bank’s interest will be reduced to the minimum to ensure a long-term model for 25 years of coin mining. Taking Boris as advisor is just one of reasons why I dont believe to Republia team.But certainly not major ones. As i said and I will repeat it once again: Major reason No1:- Both Republia founders, Daniel Shulayev and Vladimir Gyrych and advisor Boris Shulayev worked/work in Minex. 16.Dec.2016,while in pre-ICO, Minex gave statement to different crypto news portals,signed by PR manager,Daniel Shulayev(certainly approved by Boris) how Minex made a contract with one of the leading european banks to buy share in Minex by buying 1,092 millions of MNX for 1705.44 BTCs.
https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/minecoin-completes-first-stage-of-ico-ahead-of-schedulehttps://www.nxter.org/minecoin-cryptocurrency-platform-completes-first-stage-of-ico-ahead-of-schedule/ It was a lie.Big one. Banks do not pay in BTCs and in that time Minex didnt exist as a company.It was founded 9 months later in 22.Aug.2017,so it was impossible to buy share in non-existing company.Reason for that lie was Minex obligation to refund investors if pre-ICO was unsuccessfull.This way they avoided it. Question is how to believe to these people now,when they proved themselves as willing to do anything just not to return money to investors? It is valid question and in bussiness trust is extremely important.They didnt do minor but major violation of investors rights. Major reason No2:- Republia financial model is copy of Minex - same parking program and rate ,same undefined price tight regulations, same debit payments program... This model proved catastrophical in Minex and nobody from Republia team give any reasonable explanation how this program will not cause collapse of Republia too.You are talking that they will make some changes in program, but you are not member of Republia team and your words have not weight as theirs - until they put changes in official whitelist I cant take it for granted. Taking EOS is a bad example. EOS raised 4 billion dollars ! They had so much buyers that even 1 billion tokens were not enough. That is complete different situation. You said: "The goal of higher interest rates for the first time is to saturate the market with additional liquidity, and moreover gradual. " That is so wrong.Saturation of market with coins in situation when you dont know how big is real demand is a recipe for disaster(it will suck up all liquidity from the market) and puts a red flag on team incompetence too. During initial phase you have to slowly releasing coins until balance between buy and sell side is reached. After it ,you need to have tools and funds to maintain it. Republia didnt predicted having such tools or funding for them(just look at theirs expenses sheet list),so they will not be able to do it. |
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