They finally pay attention to mine findings about how Vernon used Coinbase to sell BTCs directly sent from Cryptsy and from his personal wallet(also filled with BTCs obtained from user accounts on Cryptsy)
One more thing on which receivership have to pay special attention:
Vernon sent on these Coinbase addresses - 1Jnz9XLNMdSyx1vPCsgQQkZYy2SrXsJcmE and 1LBDM5jvaE1e32KktyEyzWoPkY2CddUBZJ BTCs directly from Cryptsy wallets.In total for both addresses it is 11695 BTCs.He did not changed it for 2 years,so I believe it was probably registred on Cryptsy and funds obtained from selling BTCs deposited on these addresses were probably used to pay Cryptsy and Vernon expenses in US (salaries, hardware, renting offices on Florida and Canada, buying big house, SUVs...)
But, rest of BTCs, 10012 BTCs were sent to his personal BTC wallets directly from Cryptsy wallets or from other exchanges accounts on which he was selling users altcoins for BTCs.He also sent them on Coinbase,but not on above addresses - he generated new deposit address for each transaction from personal wallets.In mine previous posts I list founded till now deposit addresses.I dont think so that Coinbase account was registred on Cryptsy,most likely it is personal account(or registred on his offshore company) .
Coinbase could give valuable help by providing list of all his money transfers - personal and business.
11695 + 10012 = 21707 BTCs x ~$380(at the days of Cryptsy total collapse) = $8.25 millions Lot of money did not go to Vernon personal or Cryptsy accounts,so Coinbase will have to give info where money went. |
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Tough time for WDC. Since Poloniex exit,volume on BTC38 dropped much more than expected.As an act of complete desperation,someone who owned a lot of WDC,yesterday tried to fake volume buying and selling to himself 30 millions of WDC on BTC38.
WDC has good development team,but now it is obvious that trading on 2 or more major exchanges is necessary.
Also,huge problem is that major WDC owner(s)(this is case for some other coins too) tied up WDC destiny for DOGE.They piggyback WDC pump on DOGE pump.It was disastrous decision for coin,because DOGE is not dynamic coin,but it is the most static coin(now even more static than LTC).Now,when DOGE is in prolonged crisis(no doubt artificial one,to max. squeeze market),WDC almost came to oblivion.
Hello! If you check some graphs of WDC trading patterns on BTC38 ( https://i.imgur.com/fvIhgbF.png) you will notice that Poloniex had absolutely no effect in the volume nor in the price trend, which to be honest surprised us too! The important thing is that as you can easily see, the long term trend hasn't changed ( from May 2015 when Worldcoin Global was in charge), WDC is slowly but surely gaining value. Now about fake volume: indeed, it seems that the huge volume of previous days is fake (at least a big chunk of it) but this is the strange thing: - When you fake volume you do it mostly for bots to reaction, they are not targeted for people. So many bots are programmed to start buying if they notice that many sell orders are being bought; the reverse is also true, bots start selling if many buy orders are being filled (this pattern is seen in common stock market too) hence the big pumps or dumps that we see on daily basis In this case the fake volume was on the selling side, so the organization that started the fake volume expected for bots to sell (not to buy), that of course didn't happen so it seems that we have formed a new base at 0.05 yuans aprox. Which is excellent news. I do not understand the correlation you found with DOGE, please check graphs from the address above, it does not directly correlate with DOGE price nor volume You have to remove this 40M WDC volume pick and expand volume chart to see it more clearly.It is true that price trend didnt change,but volume did go 30-35%(average daily volume) down.It was expected,because now WDC is on only one major BTC exchange and many arbitrage bots and traders dropped out. Correlation between DOGE and WDC pumps can be easily seen on DOGE/BTC and WDC/BTC charts(sadly removed recently),but it can be seen on CNY charts too if you look on max.prices peaks during pumps.Max WDC and DOGE prices occured at exactly same days during 2 last DOGE pumps in May 2015 and January 2016.Slight difference is for pump in Sep.2014.It cant be accidentally,because I found same pattern for few more coins QRK,MEC,XPM...Explanation can be that people who pump DOGE pump also WDC and few other coins(they literally took over these coins and control theirs price) or the ones who pump WDC waits for DOGE pump and piggyback WDC pump with profit from DOGE.More likely it is first option.Problem with this is that big coin like DOGE can maintain prolonged 1 year price downtrend and have good trading volume,but small coins like WDC cant,because investors have plenty of other coins with more frequently significant up/down price fluctuations. |
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Plenty of users who got RIPPED OFF and LIED to over & over and often banned and threatened etc ALSO have had personal problems in that time frame. If i am going to extend any sympathy to anyone Miss Nettles living in her Mansion before was the last person. I grew up with out a dad.. he died when i was 5 years old. The last chick i dated was trying to cheat on me but i kept catching her attempts. I have been cheated on before and i have been thrown on the street and been penniless. And i had my disabled step sister who was blind / deaf and retard die at age 12 some years back. (she was like the guy in the Metallica "One" video) I got burned and took loss and got fucked over by Cryptsy too which is why i bitched them out so many times before.. So where is my sympathy and Diamond ring SUV and Mansion and then cash payment ? Hard times.. hard times guys.. i have to scrape by on food stamps with my quarter million dollars  What will i feed my kids ? OMG i just realized something guys.. i might have to get a job like the Cryptsy users who got ripped off to pay for my kids food.  ..the HORROR  Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck off  Gimme a break with the hard luck story here people. I highly doubt her claims of innocence considering their pre-Cryptsy history. Gimme a break. We're talking about the Nettles who collected all the small amounts of money from a large pool of users. Each user had a small amount of cash money they pooled into Crypto based on FAITH ! Faith the owner would not steal the money and run.. then lie about it for a year or two etc. I WILL have sympathy for the collection of small guys who all lost a small(er) amount of money ..that went into a pocket who held a large amount. Am i suppose to pity some embezzling thief who robbed a company of 12.5 million dollars because he had to give back *some* of it ? The reality is even if she did not know what Paul did way back.. she DID know after the fact. Which means she should NOW be forgoing willingly receiving an obscene amount of cash she KNOWS damn well she is not entitled to at all. If that women had a shred of class in her she would already be here saying ok who lost money let me split it with you etc. But nope.. she KNOWS the guys are here complaining and short from being ripped-off and has her "mouth" to feed so i guess tough luck suckers.. miss Nettles needs YOUR MONEY to to do <insert some shit for sympathy> I Gove zero fucks about who cheated on who or who is divorced etc. This is about the users who got ripped off and don't you guys damn well forget it ! PS: Who is still getting their Cryptsy Cryptostocks.com payments ? And yeah i was ALWAYS suspicious of who might have ran that site/service.. Paul & Friends ? You are absolutely right that she knew that Vernon money is dirty.She maybe just did not know exactly sum of money he stole. During divorce settlement,Vernon gave her all money on his US accounts,both houses,SUV,absolutely everything.Also he paid expenses for her lawyer($15000) and $20000 tax for big house, oblige to pay $2500 monthly for childcare support,full health insurance and to continue to pay his $1 million worth life insurance. So,she wasnt suspicious how he will continue to pay such a lot of expenses when he gave her all possesions and has no job or any worthly possesions??? Did she really believe that Vernon with empty pockets went to live in China with his mistress??? So,man with no money,no job,no anything,will continue to pay expenses for 2 families in 2 different countries by creating money from thin air !? No way that she is so dumb!!! She was military counter-intelligence agent,which are very suspicious to the others by default.You dont have to be a genius to figure out that money for paying such a lot of expenses by the man who has no job and possesions could come only from illegal,criminal activities. |
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Vernon ex-wife got $250K for settlement over a big house.If receivership has evidences(so they claim) that house was bought from Cryptsy stolen money,they were too generous to her.
There is one more thing.Nettles got $285.000 from selling second house in January,which Vernon bought in August 2004.Did receivership investigate how they paid off credit,where money came from?
By the way these $285K is far more than enough to provide her with "basic living necessities",additional $250K is a just big bonus for her
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Tough time for WDC. Since Poloniex exit,volume on BTC38 dropped much more than expected.As an act of complete desperation,someone who owned a lot of WDC,yesterday tried to fake volume buying and selling to himself 30 millions of WDC on BTC38.
WDC has good development team,but now it is obvious that trading on 2 or more major exchanges is necessary.
Also,huge problem is that major WDC owner(s)(this is case for some other coins too) tied up WDC destiny for DOGE.They piggyback WDC pump on DOGE pump.It was disastrous decision for coin,because DOGE is not dynamic coin,but it is the most static coin(now even more static than LTC).Now,when DOGE is in prolonged crisis(no doubt artificial one,to max. squeeze market),WDC almost came to oblivion.
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Ya maybe Vern connected etc ..where is the couple guys good at block chain analysis ?
For the past twenty minutes I've been trying to connect this site to Paul Vernon via other means, but to no avail. I can't even provide a guess as to who this fucker is. I dont think so it is connected with Vernon,but it is definetely black site - no public owner,no physical address,nothing.Will go scam in future for sure. |
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The WDC market seems to be really small now.
unfortunately,yes. Bittrex listed so many useless shitty coins,why they dont list WDC??? It would has volume bigger than 90% coins on Bittrex. Were any contacts with Bittrex in past or now? |
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It is a really shame that Poloniex will delist WDC.They are now the biggest altcoin exchange so maybe they dont need coins with few BTCs average daily volume any more.
It is what it is - is there any chances to list WDC on Bittrex?
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Receviership mistyped sum of Bitcoins Vernon transferred to Coinbase directly from Cryptsy - it is 11000 BTC not 1100.
One more thing on which receivership have to pay special attention:
Vernon sent on these Coinbase addresses - 1Jnz9XLNMdSyx1vPCsgQQkZYy2SrXsJcmE and 1LBDM5jvaE1e32KktyEyzWoPkY2CddUBZJ BTCs directly from Cryptsy wallets.In total for both addresses it is 11695 BTCs.He did not changed it for 2 years,so I believe it was probably registred on Cryptsy and funds obtained from selling BTCs deposited on these addresses were probably used to pay Cryptsy and Vernon expenses in US (salaries, hardware, renting offices on Florida and Canada, buying big house, SUVs...)
But, rest of BTCs, 10012 BTCs were sent to his personal BTC wallets directly from Cryptsy wallets or from other exchanges accounts on which he was selling users altcoins for BTCs.He also sent them on Coinbase,but not on above addresses - he generated new deposit address for each transaction from personal wallets.In mine previous posts I list founded till now deposit addresses.I dont think so that Coinbase account was registred on Cryptsy,most likely it is personal account(or registred on his offshore company) .
Coinbase could give valuable help by providing list of all his money transfers - personal and business.
But,also Vernon sent BTCs from Cryptsy(and also received BTCs from selling Cryptsy altcoins on other exchanges) to his personal wallets - 9166 BTCs, where 6067 came directly from Cryptsy and 3099 from selling altcoins on other exchanges Main addreses of these wallets are : 1MSijnGgNRFKJAMweRcPCbF8whSpdyDUkm and 1oFmWzZRF6b2kTiTrkSJ7CQZ2JnB351oH https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14577919#msg14577919https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14572734#msg1457273414ETojkW9Jif1N5XzMRYhjhgGZUimn7e3j https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14578716#msg145787161Naz8JLF8STQbZ9hqAVn8wej8pMKGW5v1x https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14579191#msg14579191He also sent them on Coinbase and here is a list of deposit addresses he used: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg14866478#msg14866478 |
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Most likely receivership is putting remained coins in new wallets |
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Vernon caught himslef in net of lies.In this interview he told: "Yes. I was awoken the morning of the attack with alerts of moved funds from the safe wallets. The individual(s) who did it had been planning it for some time, as they had access into the system for a while, possibly months. It was several wallets and not just bitcoin and litecoin. I shut down all wallets and immediately contacted the wallet manager “Mullick” and the systems admin to check to make sure it wasn’t them. We then promptly met at the office to start investigating. It took us a couple of weeks to determine what exactly happened." By his words ,they needed few weeks to determine what happened - this is so much in contradiction that they started new Bitcoin ,Litecoin,DASH and other wallets just 6 hours after hack. How he could know that hacker wont attack again?? - he started new wallets on the same compromised system just 6 hours after hack in the time he did not even know how it was compromised It defies any logic except that he knew that wont be any further attacks and he only could know that if he is a hacker. |
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Someone tell me Vern pointing who The lawyer who filed the lawsuit against you likened what you did to "robbing a bank." How do you respond?
He doesn't think the hack occurred, which is surprising to me since the ex-wallet manager is working with them and he knows all the details of what happenedThat news come out in public nice 5hour ago He keeps to disinformate people. $3 millions revenue in the first year,means that Cryptsy had to have more than 10000 BTCs daily volume in first year and that is BS.First few months it volume was very small and only on few days during DOGE and XPY pump it climbed to 8000 daily.Cryptsy went to 1500-2000 BTC daily volume only in second year of its existence. 80-85% of this so call "revenues" came from deliberate taking(stealing) BTCs from users. That is why Vernon destroyed users,accounting and site audit databases and fled to China.
The man who claimed he didnt steal anything burned all his accounting books. |
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 Just alert got on . Vern running out of money or other thing got so badly ,he want to shutdown that website n start a new UI website + totally different form cryptsy  . I got nothing support msg reply ( why they doing this lol ) Closing of Bitebi9 on 23rd.June coincided(no way by accident) with the putting rest of 3300 BTCs from selling allegedly stolen altcoins from Cryptsy to Bitcoin mixer - Bitmixer.io.Series of transactions were conducted on 21st,22 and 23rd.June and all of them to Bitmixer.io. Soon after series of huge dumps occured on Huobi and OKCoin. Now there are no slightest doubt that Vernon is behind alleged hack.He sold all of his Bitcoins except 11825 BTCs taken on 29.July 2014. Wallet with BTCs obtained from selling altcoins : https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337 So where's the money? Paul closed bitebe, he should have about $2 M worth orf RMB if dumped that much on the chinese exchanges, how could he get that much rmb without a paper trail leading right to him? and get it out of china? And here is the fiscal report of Vernon company for 2015. It is now - 30 million yuans ~ 4.57 millions dollars ~ 10000 BTCsWay of subscription capital - currency - cash money !!!Page 1 of fiscal report Page 2 of fiscal report  |
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Just alert got on . Vern running out of money or other thing got so badly ,he want to shutdown that website n start a new UI website + totally different form cryptsy . I got nothing support msg reply ( why they doing this lol ) Closing of Bitebi9 on 23rd.June coincided(no way by accident) with the putting rest of 3300 BTCs from selling allegedly stolen altcoins from Cryptsy to Bitcoin mixer - Bitmixer.io.Series of transactions were conducted on 21st,22 and 23rd.June and all of them to Bitmixer.io. Soon after series of huge dumps occured on Huobi and OKCoin. Now there are no slightest doubt that Vernon is behind alleged hack.He sold all of his Bitcoins except 11825 BTCs taken on 29.July 2014. Wallet with BTCs obtained from selling altcoins : https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337 |
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 Somedays before So fucking badly coin dump like dust . All I know that hug amounts of value dump in bittrex . Per coin sold in 0.00000016 Cryptsy have most largest market have running old time of XRP (  ) Hmmm I don't know it piggy Vern or noob user WHO did that I'm not sure. No,in this case it is not Vernon. Cryptsy XRP address is rJGW69cMpaSqNwjhWjvtkRwhvm9yNfnNpN and there is 30 millions of XRP on it now. It was dormant for 6 months,but a month ago 2 small transactions occured(10 and 100 XRP).It can be receivership but Iam not sure. |
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Why I said investigation not done proper way Why they ignored that Yes You all thinking about hmmm FinCEN words in 2016-1-16 Look at this picture  Full news : - http://www.coindesk.com/cryptsy-bitcoin-theft-avoid-panic/2015 story http://cointelegraph.com/news/cryptsy-we-have-never-been-investigated-for-anything( in 2015- 10 -xoxo by give ducoment related inside trading. , market manipulation ,financial violations / were cryptocurrency involving / finCEN ignore that all ducoment lol ) Coinfire really did everything .whatever they can do At that point of epic tower fall before , I believe Vern not alone in this ATM money laundering They have rats so call name cryptsy employees . TJ also show that cryptsy involved in ''cryptodouble'' ponzi scheme Bitebi9 back on free coin get on your active trade or deposits Crucial thing is to receive data about all Cryptsy/Vernon crypto/money transactions on Coinbase which he used for BTC selling.Especially to where he moved cash after BTC selling. Because he used Coinbase exclusively, from incoming BTC transactions it can be reconstructured his whole selling network. I dont believe that he sent all cash from Coinbase to Cryptsy bank accounts.Probably 50% for paying employees,exchanges expenses and his own expenses.He obviously reported huge profit in 2014, enough to buy house and SUVs,because he could not pay them in cash otherwise.But other 50% probably went to offshore account. Inside trading and market manipulations are more SEC job than Fincen.In one court document about class action lawsuit there was statement that Vernon is under IRS Criminal division and SEC investigation.Also in February, criminal investigation against Secret Service rogue agents are opened again ,because prosecution has more evidences that they were connected which US based exchanges in money laundering. Chinese knew who he is and he has to bribe them constantly for giving him sanctuary.He is not a some kind of smart businessman,all his businesses were elaborate frauds from FooPile to Cryptsy.He wont dare to do that in China again,so he will run out of money for few years.Then Chinese will transport him to Dalian province neighbouring country - North Korea and ruling Kim will put him in brand new ICBM misslie warhead and shoot him to US to test new way of extradition. |
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is there a any chance to get my coins from craptsy?
I spoke at length with the receivership attorney yesterday and a forensic investigator. They had hoped to reconstruct the Cryptsy website but it appears that Vern deleted the databases and wiped the disks the day of his departure.The problem at this point is determining which coins belong to which users. The hired experts are attempting to recover the databases, but at this point it looks doubtful. We will be asking the receivership to recommend to the courts that the coins be returned to the various communities whereby a system can be worked out to fairly redistribute the coins. In any case, I was told the legal process could possibly drag out for years. ~~ Hey, MG, I'm in no way doubting your exchange with the RA, but was surprised to read an important piece of evidence in this case shared with you (in bold above). I think the upcoming website is going to reiterate this information and go into much more detail. The receiver is determined to keep this case as transparent as possible. I was upfront about my motivations and communicated my intention to share any provided information. Did they happen to mention "which" employee of cryptsy is helping restore the databases etc... i'd like to know which slimey ass employee is trying to save their scaley hide by helping now to avoid or lessen their involvement. My money is on jshock as they have something on him. Horus is just some customer relations retard with no actual security check knowledge.. that dumb ass didn't even know his company insides and was in charge of verifications. I hope the case is more about getting vern back than it is chasing funds. If you get vern you can force him to spill the information to make customers as whole as possible. If vern doesn't drop its not worth much. That pompous prick needs to be in jail with garza and i suspect there is a little more to the whole case than meets the eye... notice how the xpy case is delayed... i reckon its going to be linked in with paul vernon and recoverying him. Is there anyway to get mike from the old coinfire to come here and spill info he had that he didn't mention at the time? Anyone got his contact? Seems he knew more of the truth Apparently it is Mullick News from Mullick came to CBX dev:I have been contacted by Cryptsy regarding the movement of the CBX under their control. These funds have been moved to a secure address and are still safe and locked away as they have been for the several months Cryptsy has been closed. Below is the note from Mullick.I saw some people worrying about the coins being moved by Paul.
The coins were not moved by Paul. They were moved by me under order of the receiver to a secure wallet.
I don't want to get involved on the forums but since we have a history I thought I would let you know there is no need to worry about Paul dumping any CBX. CryptoBullion CBX coins that were stored on Cryptsy never moved until now... It is hard to say is it receivership or Vernon.If it does not move further it is receivership,putting them in a new wallet. But if it moves further,then it means Vernon is again in the full motion. Didn't mullick always swear black and blue he didn't have access to the wallets? Now he does? And can piece the dbs back together for cryptsy to make stuff happen. I suspect he did have enough access to know the funds cryptsy supposedly had and actually had were a different number. He's guilty as hell. Hope he gets something his way in regards to fines / court charges. I remembered on Cryptsy chat,when BigJohn told that Vernon only has full access to everything and that Mullick has highest access level to wallets among Cryptsy employees.What it really means? Probably he had full access to work on wallets, deposit/withdrawal problems and some kind of limitation on amounts of coins he can send without Vernon knowledge.I think dbs were not his field of work,but without question he had to know for alleged hack in July.2014.You cant work with wallets and dont see such massive outflow of different coins. Now we know that all Cryptsy employees had to sign NDA. So,reason for his silence can be NDA or big paycheck. |
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is there a any chance to get my coins from craptsy?
I spoke at length with the receivership attorney yesterday and a forensic investigator. They had hoped to reconstruct the Cryptsy website but it appears that Vern deleted the databases and wiped the disks the day of his departure.The problem at this point is determining which coins belong to which users. The hired experts are attempting to recover the databases, but at this point it looks doubtful. We will be asking the receivership to recommend to the courts that the coins be returned to the various communities whereby a system can be worked out to fairly redistribute the coins. In any case, I was told the legal process could possibly drag out for years. ~~ Hey, MG, I'm in no way doubting your exchange with the RA, but was surprised to read an important piece of evidence in this case shared with you (in bold above). I think the upcoming website is going to reiterate this information and go into much more detail. The receiver is determined to keep this case as transparent as possible. I was upfront about my motivations and communicated my intention to share any provided information. Did they happen to mention "which" employee of cryptsy is helping restore the databases etc... i'd like to know which slimey ass employee is trying to save their scaley hide by helping now to avoid or lessen their involvement. My money is on jshock as they have something on him. Horus is just some customer relations retard with no actual security check knowledge.. that dumb ass didn't even know his company insides and was in charge of verifications. I hope the case is more about getting vern back than it is chasing funds. If you get vern you can force him to spill the information to make customers as whole as possible. If vern doesn't drop its not worth much. That pompous prick needs to be in jail with garza and i suspect there is a little more to the whole case than meets the eye... notice how the xpy case is delayed... i reckon its going to be linked in with paul vernon and recoverying him. Is there anyway to get mike from the old coinfire to come here and spill info he had that he didn't mention at the time? Anyone got his contact? Seems he knew more of the truth Apparently it is Mullick News from Mullick came to CBX dev:I have been contacted by Cryptsy regarding the movement of the CBX under their control. These funds have been moved to a secure address and are still safe and locked away as they have been for the several months Cryptsy has been closed. Below is the note from Mullick.I saw some people worrying about the coins being moved by Paul.
The coins were not moved by Paul. They were moved by me under order of the receiver to a secure wallet.
I don't want to get involved on the forums but since we have a history I thought I would let you know there is no need to worry about Paul dumping any CBX. CryptoBullion CBX coins that were stored on Cryptsy never moved until now... It is hard to say is it receivership or Vernon.If it does not move further it is receivership,putting them in a new wallet. But if it moves further,then it means Vernon is again in the full motion. |
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