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1001  Economy / Economics / Re: This is a total nightmare on: July 27, 2020, 04:16:16 PM
So I'm really curious why are you taking a hit when I don't see most of the companies in the tech industry being affected that much. Is it in your customer or what kind of business do you have?

Another aspect of the virus yet to fully come to light will be increased outsourcing to cheaper countries. Tech stuff is super vulnerable to this and many companies have realised there's little need for a physical location or physical meetings.

Those who didn't consider it before certainly will now and there's a whole world out there willing to work for less.

Yes, and there's a whole world of consultants out there just waiting to fix mismanaged outsourcing by inexperienced project managers Grin
1002  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Investors Rejoice As Bitcoin Price Surges Above $10,000 on: July 27, 2020, 04:08:48 PM
Expect a pullback rather sooner than later. The big question is whether Bitcoin will manage to stay above 10k for good, if yes we're going to to be in for a good time. Not sure if I'd expect a new ATH before 2021 though. We still have a lot of resistance levels ahead and who knows what other surprises 2020 still holds in store.

If Ethereum is also prepping its moon rockets, all the better. Confidence in one pushes confidence in the other.
1003  Economy / Economics / Re: This is a total nightmare on: July 27, 2020, 02:16:27 PM
--snip--

Well i just hope it will get better else 15 years of experience goes down the toilet do to some chinese guy in Wuhan who decided he has to eat bats  for dinner... if it goes bad i will raise prices and do something else until it gets better again i hope...  i can't complain as i can afford to raise prices and wait ... but some people can't ... IT sector is crumbling...people say they need us but i don't see money moving ...Today someone asked me to build him something that takes 3 months to build i gave him price 4500 euros ...fair price do to economic coditions ...and he wanted me to build his project for 300 euros .... "300 euros for 3 months of work are you joking or mad ?"

They're not joking, nor are they mad... They just don't realise our skillset is valuable. They just see our punching on our keyboard and nothing physically gets produced so they think "i can do this, it's more of a hobby, why would i pay anybody for this". Offcourse, our skillset also takes years to develop, it's not free, it's not our hobby either... But hey, that's just not how we are perceived.

Ironically it can help to raise prices. Gets rid of the cheapskate clients and the ones that stick around usually gain more appreciation for the time you give them. If all you have are cheapskate clients you're shit out of luck though.



Exactly ... and it's based on International costumers that pay in dollars ...dollar falls  i have to increase price do to fact i am based in Europe ...

Have you been trying to acquire projects in Europe? Unfortunately the market has been mostly locked down by head hunters but expertise is still very much sought after.
1004  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: About project like Utopia on: July 27, 2020, 11:25:20 AM
Looks a bit like a closed source version of RetroShare [1] but with a fancier website and the added thrill of potentially catching some malware along the way. The direct integration of a cryptocurrency is neat of course, but all the privacy and security promises in the world are worthless if there's no source code available.

[1] https://retroshare.cc/
1005  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcoin in Fiat auszahlen wirklich ein Problem? on: July 27, 2020, 10:55:25 AM
Auch noch wichtig: Falls man als Empfänger in Deutschland sitzt gilt es noch die AWV Meldepflicht (ab EUR 12.500,-) zu beachten, ansonsten kann Bußgeld drohen. Größere Grenzüberschreitende Geldtransaktionen können generell das Interesse deiner Bank erwecken, auch unabhängig von Crypto.
1006  Economy / Economics / Re: This is a total nightmare on: July 27, 2020, 10:34:18 AM
I think i am moving from IT to agriculture (as i got some land ... ) ,there is no way my IT biz will survive like this ...

What technologies are you working with? IT is very broad and anecdotally IT seems to be one of the sectors that's least affected by the pandemic. If you're in events or tourism, then you're fucked, but IT seems to be fine for the most part.
1007  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans in a Bitcoin world on: July 24, 2020, 03:36:38 PM

Accordingly I do believe that even in a Bitcoin world most loans would still have to run on fiat. Everything else just doesn't add up, at least as long we insist on our economies to grow or unless economics undergoes a major paradigm shift.

This is the point. We need a big paradigm shift. 
Credit is ok. Banking is ok. In a word: hard money is of.
What is not ok is central banking providing infinite credit to infinite borrowrs without accountability.
This is what is dangerous: not credit per se, but credit without the penalty of the loss if the borrower gets in trouble.

This is what bitcoin fixes. Credit in a deflationary environment urges the lender to accuratley select the borrower's projects to pick the one qwit hthe greatest chance to repay his preciuous ddeflationalry money.



Except in practice this "urge to accurately select the borrower's projects" doesn't work out quite as well. I mean people are sending coins to scammers to double their money FFS (╯ಠДಠ)╯

We need a paradigm shift that goes beyond underdelivering ICOs, cloudmining ponzis and thinly veiled HYIP scams. A new understanding of money and economics. Bitcoin delivered on the first one, but we're still far from the second.
1008  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans in a Bitcoin world on: July 24, 2020, 10:11:48 AM

In a Bitcoin world however, a fractional reserve system can be imagined (like Hal Finney proposed it here in the forum in 2010) but it would be very risky for banks, because there is no Central Bank and thus no lender of last resort. Banks would never be able to operate with a reserve as low as the 1% currently standard in Europe and the US, but probably need reserves of 30 or even 50%. This would indirectly lead to less availability for loans, a situation called credit crunch or credit squeeze.

This assumes that Bitcoin will be a dominant currency of the world, which is likely not gonna happen. So, even if 5% of the economy will run on Bitcoin, Bitcoin's deflation won't be a big problem.

Pretty much this. Even if Bitcoin becomes dominant, the way we currently run our economy still requires a form of inflationary fiat currency.

In a completely crypto dominated utopia this may even be private money in the form of centrally issued tokens, although it's more likely to remain governmental currencies. The thing is, our current understanding of growth-based economy requires a heavy amount of forward-looking loaning to function, ie. businesses borrowing money "from the future" to allow for growth in the present. This system unfortunately only works if the loans are based on an inflationary currency, otherwise businesses end up short on money in a literal way, ie. with a deflationary currency you can't take money "from the future" without it missing somewhere else -- it turns into a zero sum game where any economic growth on one side can not happen without a bankruptcy on the other.

Accordingly I do believe that even in a Bitcoin world most loans would still have to run on fiat. Everything else just doesn't add up, at least as long we insist on our economies to grow or unless economics undergoes a major paradigm shift.
1009  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Question on confirmation time and blocks on: July 23, 2020, 09:30:04 AM
1. When I read about bitcoin confirmation, I read after 10 confirmations the bitcoin sent will be completely mined which means has full (10) confirmations but I still noticed after the recipient had received the bitcoin, I checked the transactions details the next day, and I saw 2099 confirmations which is more than 10. What caused this?

Total confirmation basically means total blocks after your transaction included in a block and the number will increased over time.

Besides, where do you read "after 10 confirmations the bitcoin sent will be completely mined"? Total confirmation is used to determine whether we can conclude the transaction is done, for example 1 confirmation is good enough if you sell a cup of coffee, but if you sell a car, you probably wants the transaction have 6 confirmation more.

To expand on this -- there's no confirmation count that defines a transaction as "completely mined" or "fully confirmed".

There's no predefined limit that says "welp, now it's settled" except for the one defined by the recipient of the coins.

So for low risk transactions 1 confirmation is fine but with high risk transactions you might want to wait for a few more confirmations before regarding the transaction as settled, with 6 confirmations often being regarded as the sweet spot between security and practicality (ie. waiting time) in that case. Rationale being that the higher the confirmation count the more expensive an attack (which, accounting for oppportunity cost, get exponentially more expensive with each confirmation, starting in the tens of thousands for the first confirmation).
1010  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Yet another chainsize post... Maybe on: July 23, 2020, 08:12:38 AM
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Which is also why it's critical that 2nd layer infrastructure becomes established by then to keep transmitting BTC affordable.

affordability of transacting bitcoin on any other layers still depends on the main chain fees because the coins have to move from main chain to the other layer first and then be settled on chain again. so there are two transactions in the process and 2 fees involved.

Of course! But if those 2 fees then cover, say, 20 or 200 instead of just 2 transactions it will be much easier to reach a balance between the interests of miners (ie. high fees per block) and users (ie. low fees per transaction).
1011  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Smart contracts - How smart are they? on: July 22, 2020, 10:23:31 PM
Thank the same people who condemned the critics of "turing-completeness on the blockchain/base layer" for proving them, the critics, right. Haha.

Although, should some experimentation and development be done with it off-chain though?

I'm a bit on the fence, but I guess even on the main chain turing-completeness could be okaish given rigorous tooling, a very strict language and a very restrictive interpreter. Yet here we are with the most popular smart contract platform making methods implicitly public by default Roll Eyes (or maybe they changed it by now, I haven't been following Ethereum all that much)


... but the smart contract purpose is to issue tokens.
That is only one application of smart contracts. I would bet that most smart-contracts don't issue tokens.

Smart contract are overrated, many problems still require oracle, which makes the usage of smart contract on blockchain is less useful due to :
1. Require to trust the oracle being honest or/and neutral (On many cases)
2. Less privacy, especially when oracle involved on case outside blockchain
3. Single point of failure on few cases where status quo will remain forever

Not all smart contracts depend on oracles.

Part of the problem of smart contracts is probably that people have been trying to apply them to use cases for which they make absolutely no sense.

Which on the one hand is okay, since every new technology needs to go through a explorative phase to reach its full potential.

But on the other hand it's a bit like the radioactive quackery of the early 20th century and just as silly.
1012  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Nothing is truly decentralized using a centralized ISP on: July 22, 2020, 09:55:37 PM
In a mesh network each node becomes its own ISP basically.

They don't. If a mesh node wants to access the internet, it still needs to access via a centralized service provider. How else is the mesh network going to connect to the internet? There's no other way to access it, not even on a physical level.
1013  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: BIP numbering and status mess on: July 22, 2020, 01:49:34 PM
I can't figure out what, concretely, davef is asking for.

Would you prefer a spec which changes from time to time to falsely claim that it is final?  You would prefer that the spec not change even when demands mean the implementation must, so then the spec will just not match?   Or would you prefer the BIP have never been written in the first place, saving an epic boatload of time for the authors? Something else?


I don't intend to snark either, but your generalized complaint is totally opaque to me-- to the point that I can't even discuss it with you because I just can't tell what you expect.

I guess what DaveF and to some extend OP are asking for is an additional status like "Proposed" that indicates something has been merged and released but is still in a state of flux? Or is this what "Proposed" means anyway?
1014  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Yet another chainsize post... Maybe on: July 22, 2020, 01:15:46 PM
Bitcoin has an enormous security overhead though, so even at half the hashrate a majority attack would still be orders of magnitudes more expensive than a similar attack on any of the alts

This is mainly because of the mining proftiblity which has to do with the blockrewards+fees and their value in FIAT, the amount of security is based largely on the mining rewards in $ of any given coin, bitcoin has security overhead because of it's mining profitability and nothing else, if a shitcoin like BCH was to gain value and people are willing to pay $9,000 for it, BCH will have the exact same hashrate, let's do some maths.

BCH has a market cap of 4.2B and a hashrate of 2.8EH , so that's 0.66 Billion dollars worth of hashrate for every billion dollars worth of value, BTC has 173.2B market cap and 115EH that's exactly 0.66 billion dollar worth of hashrate for every billion worth of value.

BTC is 41x more secured than BCH not because people hate Roger and Bitmain, it's because of the simple fact that bitcoin is worth 41x BCH.

Other coins with 5% the market cap of btc have 5% worth of hashrate, remember that miners don't mine the coin they love or believe in, they simply mine the coin that is profitable, and profiblity has to do with rewards and the value of those rewards in fiat.

If bitcoin goes up 100% in price, there will be enough room for double the hashrate, if it goes down 50% there will be 50% less room for the current hashrate (not exactly but more or less), obviously it will also be 50% less worthy of an attack, but it will be easier for someone who isn't doing it for profit, someone like a king or a dictator of some rich country.

The point I'm trying to make is that, even assuming no rise in price, Bitcoin can still take a couple more halvings before the hashrate loss would become relevant in terms of security.

Taking the example of BCH, all prices remaining equal and ignoring mining fees, it would take Bitcoin 5 more halvings (41 -> 20 -> 10 -> 5 -> etc) to come down on BCH's security level.

However already the 3rd halving's impact will be greatly diminished due to mining fees becoming the primary source of income, which means that we'll have reached a floor beyond which Bitcoin's security level won't break (assuming mining fees don't diminish due to less usage). Additionally BCH and other forks follow the same halving pattern, so BTC's halvings does not put it at an disadvantage. SHA-256 alts that are not direct blockchain forks of BTC have lost all relevancy and it's highly unlikely that any new promising alt coin project will pick up SHA-256 as their PoW hashing algorithm of choice; so unlike GPU-mined coins BTC will probably never have any competition for hashpower to speak of. (Unless BCH or BSV top BTC's price of course, but... you know) And without mining hardware "on the sidelines" (i.e. mining other coins than the target), there's no hashing power to attack Bitcoin.


However I believe the above to be mostly theoretical, since just like you...

[...] the bet here is that fees go higher in number and value, while price keeps climbing up slow and steady, and I am confident that we will achieve that.

...I'm also confident that Bitcoin's price will continue to off-set halving losses for a while longer.

Which is also why it's critical that 2nd layer infrastructure becomes established by then to keep transmitting BTC affordable.
1015  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Yet another chainsize post... Maybe on: July 21, 2020, 10:11:37 PM
This is the problem, less miners/enegery required to mine bitoin = less security one way or the other, by 2028 when rewards are 1.5625 bitcoin needs to be sitting at about $56,000 so that mining remains as profitable, if price is 50% less by then, then long story short, bitcoin will be 50% easier to centralise.

Bitcoin has an enormous security overhead though, so even at half the hashrate a majority attack would still be orders of magnitudes more expensive than a similar attack on any of the alts (and even with those relatively "easy" targets majority attacks are surprisingly rare). Accordingly I wouldn't worry that much about hashrate dropping as block subsidy decreases. By 2032 block subsidy will be only secondary to mining fees anyway, so subsequent halvings will have less and less of an impact.
1016  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Finally some justice, scammer sent to jail at South Korea. on: July 21, 2020, 06:00:01 PM
While it is nice that at least a scammer has to face the justice system at the same time I am disappointed by this short sentence. What do you think of this?

At a first glance 2.5 years seem laughable given the financial damages, but with them merely being a "secretary" it looks more warranted. It will be much more interesting to see what sentence the heads of the operation are going to receive, assuming they ever get caught.
1017  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Bitcoin for Contract Killing" on: July 21, 2020, 03:34:23 PM
*There are sites on the darknet that exist to hire contract killers for bitcoin scam would-be clients

FTFY Wink

Most (if not all) of those sites are fake, you'll find plenty of articles on the subject matter. IIRC there's only one murder that's actually linked to a hitman that was hired via a hidden service and that one was an amateur that got caught pretty quickly.


Think about it, it's a pretty perfect scam.

You offer murder for hire, but since you're nice you only want 50% up-front. So you take 50% up-front and then... that's it. No one dies, your victim likely is kind of a dick anyway and they sure as hell won't go to the police ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I saw that kind of advertisement before when I visited the dark web, that was a long time ago, maybe 3 years already IIRC. I was just curios that time but it was really a scary web,  after that I didn't visit again. Well, with that set up, that's really a scam, unless you can find an escrow to hold the money and just release it when the job is done, but it's still hard to verify the reputation of the escrow as the transaction itself in the first place is illegal, hence you can't complain  if anything does not go with the expectation. 

Offering escrow services for contract killings seems like a good way to scam a few more coins out on top of your "retainer":

"I understand if you don't trust me, even though I only take 50% in advance, but here this guy is a trusted escrow that can hold the coins for just a small fee!"



I doubt anyone would use the darknet to offer his services for real, this is not Uber to get better ratings, scamming gullible morons is far easier than risking your life.

Talking of which, since we're already on the topic of cryptocurrencies and crime in the media -- has anyone here watched Westworld? In season 3 they introduce an app called RICO, which is essentially Uber for crime. According to the creators it's in part inspired by "the idea of the blockchain" so it's probably the first (fictional) dApp that made it into mainstream science fiction. Pretty neat in my opinion.
1018  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Smart contracts - How smart are they? on: July 21, 2020, 01:15:10 PM
So basically, smart contracts are cool, but the necessity of turing-complete smart contract languages is still not really proven.

I'd even argue that in terms of smart contracts turing-completeness has been proven to be more of a liability than a blessing. At least if you honestly strive for immutability without centralized oversight and are not just paying lip service.
1019  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Yet another chainsize post... Maybe on: July 21, 2020, 01:04:45 PM
FYI the cap is 4 kWu (4 million weights unit)

Don't you mean 4 thousand weights unit? ie. k as in kilo as in thousand (as opposed to mega as in million)
1020  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Bitcoin for Contract Killing" on: July 20, 2020, 07:10:29 PM
There are sites on the darknet that exist to hire contract killers for bitcoin, including joke sites listing just about every famous person along with a bounty, I didn't browse any of them, I got this information from a clearnet blog. Also realistically it depends on the target, someone wouldn't get payed $500K to target an ordinary person.

*There are sites on the darknet that exist to hire contract killers for bitcoin scam would-be clients

FTFY Wink

Most (if not all) of those sites are fake, you'll find plenty of articles on the subject matter. IIRC there's only one murder that's actually linked to a hitman that was hired via a hidden service and that one was an amateur that got caught pretty quickly.


Think about it, it's a pretty perfect scam.

You offer murder for hire, but since you're nice you only want 50% up-front. So you take 50% up-front and then... that's it. No one dies, your victim likely is kind of a dick anyway and they sure as hell won't go to the police ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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