French Election

[DooMAD]

I don't think it's possible to understand the dichotomy incarnate that is popcorn1.  He claims he's voting for Theresa May, but hates everything she and the tories stand for.

The EU is for BIG BUSINESS ..And now because not much socialism around not much tax getting collected from big business to use for public services and to make sure your future children have the same chance as everyone else..

The tories are for big business.

See even free school meals are privatised NOT so free .. You think the farmers good veggie waste food should be given to local schools saving the tax payer on school meals..
No but they wont do that because someone like the POLITICIANS CRONIES are the people making money off SO CALLED FREE SCHOOL DINNERS..

The tories are for privatisation.

The EU is all for the ELITE ..And the ELITE are the few meaning way more sadness than happiness ..
WAY WAY WAY more sadness..

The tories are for the elite.

Corruption costs EU 'up to €990 billion a year'

The tories are corrupt.

You seem to be of the quite delusional impression that the EU is the sole source of everything in the world that you hate and that getting out of it will magically make everything better.  But the sad fact is you've been lied to and you've swallowed the lie whole.  You think all of the EU regulation is bad, but some of it actually protects the things you care about.  With those protections out of the way, the tories and their buddies in big business are free to exploit the average person in all sorts of new cruel and profitable ways.  And the best part is you begged them to do it.  Self inflicted harm.

Enjoy your nightmare future of your own making.

[mainpmf]

I can't say I'm happy Macron won.
I'm just happy Lepen lost.

But not so sure it will be much better...

Brace yourself for 5 difficult years my fellow citizens. If he really does what he announced I swear to God you'll see me attacking cops in a few weeks with the millions of people he'll try to destroy

[signature200]

I can't say I'm happy Macron won.
I'm just happy Lepen lost.

But not so sure it will be much better...

Brace yourself for 5 difficult years my fellow citizens. If he really does what he announced I swear to God you'll see me attacking cops in a few weeks with the millions of people he'll try to destroy

Attack the police, many do not mind. Do you have suggestions how to improve the economic situation in France? If there is, why you are in government, and if not then what is the point to criticize and nothing alternative to prerogat.

[craked5]

I can't say I'm happy Macron won.
I'm just happy Lepen lost.

But not so sure it will be much better...

Brace yourself for 5 difficult years my fellow citizens. If he really does what he announced I swear to God you'll see me attacking cops in a few weeks with the millions of people he'll try to destroy

Lol, whole France Insoumise will be in the street trying to take the fucker down if he actually does even just 10% of what he said.
The guy is completely crazy. He's the third worst possible choice of this election. Only worst choices were Fillon and MAYBE Lepen. Honestly I'm not even sure Lepen was really worse...

[Magpieguy]

A hard one to call for us here in the UK. I suppose I am pleased that Macron won, but unfortunately it will mean further alienation for us in the UK.

[youdamushi]

A hard one to call for us here in the UK. I suppose I am pleased that Macron won, but unfortunately it will mean further alienation for us in the UK.

Yeah you can bet no one will help you in any way now that all important countries have pro EU government.

Time to see how it feels to be completely alone in the big world friend. Maybe you won't do so bad in the end, who knows?

[mainpmf]

I can't say I'm happy Macron won.
I'm just happy Lepen lost.

But not so sure it will be much better...

Brace yourself for 5 difficult years my fellow citizens. If he really does what he announced I swear to God you'll see me attacking cops in a few weeks with the millions of people he'll try to destroy

Attack the police, many do not mind. Do you have suggestions how to improve the economic situation in France? If there is, why you are in government, and if not then what is the point to criticize and nothing alternative to prerogat.

Sure I have. And an easy one: stop this bullshit economy based on infinite growth that MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL!!!

We produce largely enough for everyone, at least it's true in our country. So stop the bullshit and stop feeding the riches without any reason! A few key ideas:
-Stop shareholders from taking business down: you want to have power on the administration coucil? Then you'll have to block your shares for 10 years. It will separate those who want to pump and dump from power.
-Reduce week work to 30h, the only time we decreased unemployment was when we decreased work time AND THAT SEEMS LOGICAL, right now those bullshit politicians want to make us work more to "relaunch the economy" xD
-Tax turnover and not benefits. For honest companies it will mean less taxes and for all the greedy ones like Apple and Google they won't be able to avoid it.
-Separate the laws between small companies and big ones, you simply can't deal with both the same way.
-Nationalize what we the people paid for. In France highways bring 2 billions a year to private companies, that's just taxation on us. WE paid for highways and a corrupted asshole of a president gave them to private companies for a few billions...

Easy shit that will actually change shit around here...

[markj113]

Btw remember schröder? Unlike the UK we germans had the balls to say no to the iraq invasion.

I don't think the Germans are in a position to take the high ground on starting wars lol.

[craked5]

Btw remember schröder? Unlike the UK we germans had the balls to say no to the iraq invasion.

I don't think the Germans are in a position to take the high ground on starting wars lol.

Considering how table turned in the last decades I'd say they can give you a few lessons...

USA are the warmongers crazy assholes now. Germans are pacifist guys who understood their mistakes. Americans are arrogant jerks who believe they should rule the world.

[Okurkabinladin]

Btw remember schröder? Unlike the UK we germans had the balls to say no to the iraq invasion.

I don't think the Germans are in a position to take the high ground on starting wars lol.

Considering how table turned in the last decades I'd say they can give you a few lessons...

USA are the warmongers crazy assholes now. Germans are pacifist guys who understood their mistakes. Americans are arrogant jerks who believe they should rule the world.

I dont find either approach particularly good, when we are talking about future of country. Both create new enemies every day.

Yes, you are right that nobody likes the bully.

Yet, nobody likes cowards and traitors either. In the past couple of years, german government showed that it is willing to sell high tech weapons to Saudi Arabia and its ideological islamist allies, yet it is unwilling to protect its own borders and citizens against incursions and acts of terror.

Middle road, please.

[craked5]

I dont find either approach particularly good, when we are talking about future of country. Both create new enemies every day.

Yes, you are right that nobody likes the bully.

Yet, nobody likes cowards and traitors either. In the past couple of years, german government showed that it is willing to sell high tech weapons to Saudi Arabia and its ideological islamist allies, yet it is unwilling to protect its own borders and citizens against incursions and acts of terror.

Middle road, please.

Agreed on the part where Germans (but not only them) are selling weapons accross the world.
I just find it funny how the 5 biggest weapons dealers are the 5 countries in the permanent security council of the UN...

For the "protection of its own border" let's all be clear: anyone thinking that closing borders is an efficient way to protect a country against terrorism is so dumb they shouldn't have the right to vote.

[Sithara007]

Btw remember schröder? Unlike the UK we germans had the balls to say no to the iraq invasion.

I don't think the Germans are in a position to take the high ground on starting wars lol.

To know the real state of affairs in the German army, please visit this link:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11420627/German-army-used-broomsticks-instead-of-guns-during-training.html

German army used broomsticks instead of guns during training

A German battalion assigned to Nato's rapid response force used broomstick handles instead of guns on a joint exercise due to chronic equipment shortages

I would have laughed at this news, but now I feel like crying.

[Okurkabinladin]

I dont find either approach particularly good, when we are talking about future of country. Both create new enemies every day.

Yes, you are right that nobody likes the bully.

Yet, nobody likes cowards and traitors either. In the past couple of years, german government showed that it is willing to sell high tech weapons to Saudi Arabia and its ideological islamist allies, yet it is unwilling to protect its own borders and citizens against incursions and acts of terror.

Middle road, please.

Agreed on the part where Germans (but not only them) are selling weapons accross the world.
I just find it funny how the 5 biggest weapons dealers are the 5 countries in the permanent security council of the UN...

For the "protection of its own border" let's all be clear: anyone thinking that closing borders is an efficient way to protect a country against terrorism is so dumb they shouldn't have the right to vote.

Nobody asked Germans to "close" their borders, if your memory serves well. Some if not most people were just shocked, that German government decided to breach international agreements and its own laws by suspending both Shengen and Dublin protocols. Closing borders is not the same thing as "not letting in people, who served with Islamic State and carried proofs inside their mobile phones".

Officials (paid generously by tax payers) had both information and duty to act against such possibility. Thats the very reason borders exist after all. They did not act.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/29/isis-finds-success-infiltrating-terrorists-into-re/

[criptix]

If Le Pen wins you are going to cry so much MOAR.    Can't wait for your NeverLePen mania to drive you crazy.

Crying might be a bit of a stretch, but I'd certainly mourn the loss of human decency in what was once a reasonably tolerant country.  Any substantive points to make?  Or just more of the usual lousy farceur routine?

Is mocking the (loud, public) signaling of your pious Transnational Progressive virtue a "substantive point" or not?   

Why does preserving France for French people and French culture bother you so much?  Why are you so eager to see an apex K-selective civilization be invaded and displaced by r-selective mud people from the savage lands?

It seems like you are the kind of social justice warrior who desires to see every high culture torn down until they reach equilibrium with the shit cultures ('Because Muh Fairness').

well if this table is true i can understand why he doesnt fear the creation of the french caliphate:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_France#By_country

the african nations with the highest immigrants are:

Algeria, Morroco and Tunesia. let me try to remember... oh all three nations that were french colonies not so long ago. rekt...
(ever asked yourself why muricans have indian reservations?)

I am well aware of the history of French colonialism, just like most people with a decent education.  But thanks for confirming your status as a Social Justice Warrior. 

You are framing a trivial bit of common knowledge as if it constituted some sort of game-changing Gotcha that justifies the abandonment of France and destruction/replacement of French people/culture.

Get the fact you are a fucking pleb through your thick transnational progressive propaganda infected head, and don't ever try to chuck some random thing you just learned at me as if I haven't known it since high school.

Your red herring about "why muricans have indian reservations" is beyond asinine, as I am a card-carrying member of a BIA federally recognized tribe whose ancestors survived the Trail of Tears and Apache Wars.

If Le Pen wins, don't forget your easiest option to stop the ride and get off this terribly indecent and horribly intolerant planet:

Please icebreaker. We know that indians... aeh american natives dont visit ivy league schools.
They visit shitty 3rd world public schools alongside 3rd world negros in the US.
(Hitler is still governing germany you know?!)

You are just making yourself looking like a bigly indi... native american joke.

So based on your missing education it was just logical from me to tell you that most non white french are people from ex french colonies.

But because i'm neither your school teacher nor interested in educating you in history you gotta look up the historical context yourself.


Well le pen lost, maybe you should take your gun out?

[Lieldoryn]

Btw remember schröder? Unlike the UK we germans had the balls to say no to the iraq invasion.

I don't think the Germans are in a position to take the high ground on starting wars lol.

To know the real state of affairs in the German army, please visit this link:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11420627/German-army-used-broomsticks-instead-of-guns-during-training.html

German army used broomsticks instead of guns during training

A German battalion assigned to Nato's rapid response force used broomstick handles instead of guns on a joint exercise due to chronic equipment shortages

I would have laughed at this news, but now I feel like crying.

You're too serious about this news. I certainly do not deny the fact that if army is not fighting then it loses its qualification, but it seems to me that the important thing is not what they mimic guns, and the skills that they have and will use real guns if necessary. In any army has elite units and the rest. I am sure that this news did not concern the elite units.

[popcorn1]

Btw remember schröder? Unlike the UK we germans had the balls to say no to the iraq invasion.

I don't think the Germans are in a position to take the high ground on starting wars lol.

To know the real state of affairs in the German army, please visit this link:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11420627/German-army-used-broomsticks-instead-of-guns-during-training.html

German army used broomsticks instead of guns during training

A German battalion assigned to Nato's rapid response force used broomstick handles instead of guns on a joint exercise due to chronic equipment shortages

I would have laughed at this news, but now I feel like crying.

You're too serious about this news. I certainly do not deny the fact that if army is not fighting then it loses its qualification, but it seems to me that the important thing is not what they mimic guns, and the skills that they have and will use real guns if necessary. In any army has elite units and the rest. I am sure that this news did not concern the elite units.

No it's mama merkel saving the Germans money ..

Germany posted a record annual surplus of 23.7 billion euros ($25 billion) for 2016, the National Statistics Office (Destatis) reported on Thursday.
The federal government alone accounted for 7.7 billion euros of the surplus, with the 16 states and communities across Europe's powerhouse contributing the bulk of the extra resources.
Destatis noted the 2016 surplus was highest since the country reunited in 1990 and marked the third annual surplus in a row...

Now if they paid for battle ships and planes and what not they never have a surplus NEVER ..
So if you think about it Mama merkel is a clever little woman very clever actually ..
CRAFTY GET ..

The uk spends this..

Defence budget increases for the first time in six years. ... 1 April 2016 marks the first day that these commitments come into effect with the core defence budget increasing by £800m from the 2015/16 baseline of £34.3bn to £35.1bn...

THAT'S WHY WE ARE POOR AS FUCK..
And the ELITE war weapon sellers I.E the queen and her crew are raping the British for every penny they own..
Everyone is raping each other for money..
But some are so greedy they have no intentions of giving someone else ago..

MAMA MERKEL GOT NO QUEEN ..

Queen told to confront Bahrain's King Hamad on human rights abuses ...
https://www.rt.com/uk/388113-queen-bahrain-abuse-torture/
1 day ago - Queen Elizabeth II must discuss repression, torture and executions committed by the Bahraini state when she meets king Hamad bin Isa ..


And these people are the same as ISIS ..But our queen loves him ..

So makes we wonder is this all war games these horrible kings and queens play to keep us all busy so they rape our pockets ..Modern day pillaging..

We work our asses off then we get taxed for war weapons and then we get taxed for foreign aid ..

So every year just on WEAPONS AND AID we the British loose in tax..

47 BILLION a year.. ..
So how much is actually getting spent on these 2 projects say 25 billion the rest or even more is getting stolen for the ELITE ..

I will vote MRS MAY ..Why to get us out of the EU why because even more politicians to rob us silly..
And i don't even like my own politicians so why would i add more   and ones i no nothing about?..

So by 2022 if nothing changes i will vote for someone that will do what we ask..
And if they don't do what we ask i then can imagine civil war..
And the UK will become one big battle ground and all the rich will get attacked..

Like france  ..

French workers seize factory & threaten to blow it up in protest over ...
https://www.rt.com/news/388032-french-workers-threaten-blow-factory/
2 days ago - Workers at a car component factory in central France have occupied the plant and are threatening to blow it up in a radical protest against their bosses as the site risks closure. The workers at the GM&S auto-suppliers plant in the Creuse region,

Seems quite common in France ..Look at date..

French workers threaten 'to blow up' car factory - Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk › News › World News › Europe › France
12 Jul 2009 - Workers at a bankrupt French car parts supplier have threatened to blow up their factory unless carmakers Renault and PSA-Peugeot pay them

France: Workers Threaten to Blow Up Factory if it Closes | The Tim ...
https://www.preusspodcast.com › World
13 hours ago - Union workers in central France are threatening to blow up a factory that is near closure. The plant manufactures auto parts for Renault and ..

France: Workers trash factory equipment, threaten to blow up GM&S ...
Video for french workers threaten to blow up a factory▶ 2:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDN5-78RwZ0
1 day ago - Uploaded by Ruptly TV


Call me stupid BUT if the EU is so good why is FRANCE doing so bad?..
And you pay the EU THIS MUCH every year..

Total EU spending in France – € 14.468 billion

So basically each and every person that works in the EU besides the EU politicians and their crew ..
WE THE PEOPLE OF EUROPE PAY these gangsters tribune to say well go on you can sell to Germany or France or Italy ..
THE GOD FATHERS OF EUROPE .

We pay them to just let us trade ..Just to say go on you BITCHES CAN SELL..

Now why a Eu when each country just sends a person I.E a politician we voted for to talk about trade laws ..
No need for big buildings each country already has them..
So one year all 28 countries get together to talk about trade law in one persons country..

But it's our own politicians who we voted in power ..
It saves on MEPs  wages and it saves on paying for big buildings so these greedy MEPs can sit in.

They had there own MEP shopping mall..CHEEKY..

NO NEED FOR A EU political elite..To pay there pensions and to let them rob us silly..

Corruption costs EU 'up to €990 billion a year' – POLITICO
www.politico.eu/.../corruption-costs-eu-990-billion-year-rand-study-fraud-funding/
22 Mar 2016 - The EU has a corruption problem that could cost it up to €990 billion a year, according to a study commissioned by the European Parliament ...

It's all about why pay more than we need to and to stop getting robbed by political elite..
The EU you add ..

10,000 European Union officials better paid than David Cameron ...
www.telegraph.co.uk › News › World News › Europe › EU
21 May 2014 - More than one in five European Union officials earn above £142000, the ... meaning many officials with families on lower grades will also earn more than Mr Cameron. ... for their entire working lives, as well as for household allowances. ... EU civil servants better paid than Mr Cameron to more than 10,000.

And believe me i have problems with my own robbing politicians without adding ^^^^^..
If your own countries politicians are not worth a carrot why would you think 10k more you know nothing about will care?..ALL ABOUT THE MONEY..

Politicians when they first start out they are full of promise to change your country and the world for the better...ALWAYS the agenda..But when they get in power and have the KEYS to make money
they make the money ALWAYS..

Makes your life good and your family will never ever starve again..
Buy mansions and everything..

So unless we change the way these greedy politicians work it will always be the same..
Until one day the public have enough and have a civil war..

And that means everything gets destroyed EVERYTHING in your lands   mansions and everything..

But you want to pay 10 thousand MEPs plus your own countries politicians there life and there families lives till they die..

I don't anyways..I want them to bake good cakes and sell them to the masses like we have to to get rich..

[Sithara007]

No it's mama merkel saving the Germans money ..

Germany posted a record annual surplus of 23.7 billion euros ($25 billion) for 2016, the National Statistics Office (Destatis) reported on Thursday.
The federal government alone accounted for 7.7 billion euros of the surplus, with the 16 states and communities across Europe's powerhouse contributing the bulk of the extra resources.
Destatis noted the 2016 surplus was highest since the country reunited in 1990 and marked the third annual surplus in a row...

The German income tax rates are insane. If the United States had the same rate of tax, then the federal debt would have been wiped out in less than 5 years. So this surplus was not achieved through fair means.

[criptix]

^

That happens if you are addicted to drugs.
It strongly impairs your brain functions like logical and critical thinking which leads to a distorted view of reality where you cant differ fantasy from reality.