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June 09, 2024, 04:37:54 PM
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Moreover, it's wise to tell newbies they should gamble only with spare money they aren't going to need for anything essential soon. To use considerable amounts of money from weekly or monthly wage is never a good idea, and will imply regrets in the future, once loss streaks are faced by the gambler.

I am not sure I agree most gamblers who have addiction see gambling as their source of income, perhaps some do, but I don't think it is the majority. There are many addicted people to gambling who still manage to keep their jobs and keep up their source of income by traditional means, there will be addicts who happen to be engineers, judges, police people, politicians, etc. To some degree those people are aware of the nature of gaming and the fact it will never get constant money out of it, otherwise, they would have quit their jobs long ago. They are looking for a jackpot to retire, maybe.
It is a completely different level of addiction to have gambling as "source of income" because it will definitely lead to commiting crimes in order to satisfy the addiction. One does not need to be jobless to be addicted, joblessness on the other hand can be a consequence of addiction.

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June 10, 2024, 09:36:47 AM
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Gambling is a different type of entertainment though.

First of all, it is way more expensive per hour than other entertainment options.

Is it? I think it depends o the size of the bets you make. If you are playing slots making just $0.10 bets all the time if you would be losing all the time, yes, you would lose around $150, but it's impossible to be losing all the time, sometimes you win. And thus, on average, if there are no big wins, you lose around $15 per hour, which is comparable to what you usually spend on other entertainments.


Second, the "feel good" part of it is addictive, so you want more and more.

No, I don't. If I win anything above $50, I call it a day. I feel like I'm entertained enough.


If you watch a game, once it is finished you are usually satisfied, same with a movie, show, dinner, etc.

With gambling it is different. It is designed so that you always want more.

No, that's not the case, as I explained above.

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June 12, 2024, 11:12:28 AM
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Because they did not seek for advises and tips first before entering gambling world in which mostly
ended up becoming them the loser and turning into addicted that will ruin their life forever.
With the rate of online gambling now do you think anyone will come to seek for advise before venturing into gambling? Of course No! When an online casino registration is very simple nobody knows if the next person is gambling or not so they don't even share experience in order for others to learn and as a result of this gambling addict is born to spread. One thing know is no matter what is used in writing the gambling rules and gamble responsibly you will still find people not listening because it's in their nature to ignore the rules and chase the imaginary profits which they end up losing all their money.

So practically nobody would seem advise even though they might be facing alot yet they will find it convincing not to ask.
of course no one will  ask for advise but what I am saying this is at least they must consider having good advises to never fall for addiction.

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To help beginners? we must be truth to them and tell them no lies most importantly about
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can win today or tomorrow but we will suffer in the coming days.

Gambling is not about becoming instant millionaire or to be rich, instead this is by chance
or unless consider it to be the joy bringer an not the luck who will sit with us together forever.

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June 12, 2024, 12:03:10 PM
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Someone who is new or already addicted to gambling is unlikely to be aware of asking for advice from other people, which is not surprising because gambling can make their focus focus only on gambling. with those who are less likely to ask for advice, so we have to act first. by informing beginners or giving them advice so that they don't take inappropriate actions that could endanger themselves in the future, saying that it is actually very difficult to beat the host is something that can be done, after all, winnings in gambling are also difficult to obtain, especially with beginners, even experienced gamblers cannot win with certainty, because winning at gambling is based on each individual's portion of luck.

basically gambling can be a trap, by giving a win at the start which is usually an attraction for those beginners who will think that gambling can really make them make money quickly and even become rich because with the win that they usually win at first it can make them confident . and when they do, they will continue to gamble, as time goes by they will get deeper into gambling until they are trapped until it is difficult to get out. Therefore, before it's too late, it's better to tell him from the start.

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June 12, 2024, 12:25:33 PM
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The only help we can render is, letting them understand the fact that gambling is not programmed to favour gamblers and also a profit oriented business of which the house will always have the upper hand, they should always gamble within there risk tolerance and not over leverage, winning is by chance above all have self-discipline. They should focus on what they have control over which is there habits and not winning.

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June 12, 2024, 01:03:23 PM
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The only help we can render is, letting them understand the fact that gambling is not programmed to favour gamblers and also a profit oriented business of which the house will always have the upper hand, they should always gamble within there risk tolerance and not over leverage, winning is by chance above all have self-discipline. They should focus on what they have control over which is there habits and not winning.
Sometimes when we want to try to help beginners it is a bit difficult because they will usually be stubborn and ignore all advice from experienced gamblers, the only way is to let them experience it for themselves so that they can learn directly from what they have felt when they started gambling. The point is to provide a deterrent effect and facts that will slap them directly, I often remind beginners of that too but they ignore what I say, that's why I prefer them to learn directly from their mistakes.

They will learn from the mistakes they will receive, which is a clear fact that will make them realize that other people's advice is important, especially experienced people, of course they already have quite a lot of experience, so it's best to listen to experienced gamblers so they don't get misguided, gamblers who are easily addicted usually is that gamblers really come from beginners because their ignorance and unpreparedness in gambling and self-control makes it very easy for beginners to become addicted to gambling.

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June 12, 2024, 01:14:29 PM
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First, they should have the knowledge of gambling before using money to gamble, and it will be difficult for newbies to get addicted to gambling because they will know their limit in the gambling center.

Secondly, newbies should not take gambling as an investment, which is another advise we need to give to newbies so that they will not involve themselves in addicted to gambling, because there are some people that took gambling as an investment but they didn't end up well.

Thirdly, newbies should try to have their daily budget on gambling, I guess it will help newbies not to be addicted to gambling because is not the wish of gamblers to see newbies into addicted to gambling.

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First, they should have the knowledge of gambling before using money to gamble, and it will be difficult for newbies to get addicted to gambling because they will know their limit in the gambling center.

Secondly, newbies should not take gambling as an investment, which is another advise we need to give to newbies so that they will not involve themselves in addicted to gambling, because there are some people that took gambling as an investment but they didn't end up well.

Thirdly, newbies should try to have their daily budget on gambling, I guess it will help newbies not to be addicted to gambling because is not the wish of gamblers to see newbies into addicted to gambling.
Indeed, no gambler wants to be addicted. The only thing that might be advised to beginners who want to gamble is that they know the risks and tell them to always be responsible.
especially they must know the limits of the capabilities they can bet on. and try to remain consistent and not exceed it. After the gambler knows all that, everything will return to the gambler's own personality. because what actually makes gamblers addicted is their own mindset and gambling habits. no casino forces gamblers to become addicted, even if it is profitable for them.

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June 12, 2024, 01:24:04 PM
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The reason why I'm not addicted to gambling is because even before I started to play gambling I already understand gambling and its addiction, and my understanding has helped me on how to follow up gambling. Sometimes I ask myself why do people get addicted to gambling, is it because they have no understanding or awareness about the addiction of gamble.

 I think majority of people who are addicted to gambling is because they do not understand gambling as beginners, the rules and the side effects of playing gambling excessively.

I think if gambling companies can help to giving beginners to understand gambling and addiction it will help and reduce the rate at which people get addicted o gambling, I mean good lesson for people to get understanding.  Or do gambling companies benefit from gamblers who are addicted, which the awareness of getting addicted can affect their business?.

i don't think casino company are aware of the addicted ones so far because for me they don't even know who and who is gambling everyday of their life's. But only the business owners knows the addicted ones but if they let the addicted ones know that, they're addicted they might also lose customers and mostly the addicted ones gambles more than the people who gambles for fun. But as a beginner before you think of going into gambling it's better you know what gambling is all about not just jump in, because you saw your friend winning whenever he/she gambles. So for me before starting or thinking about gambling you should know the elements of gambling, so that you won't get addicted to it while gambling I won't say you shouldn't gamble but know your limit whenever you notice something awful towards it.
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Moreover, it's wise to tell newbies they should gamble only with spare money they aren't going to need for anything essential soon. To use considerable amounts of money from weekly or monthly wage is never a good idea, and will imply regrets in the future, once loss streaks are faced by the gambler.

I am not sure I agree most gamblers who have addiction see gambling as their source of income, perhaps some do, but I don't think it is the majority. There are many addicted people to gambling who still manage to keep their jobs and keep up their source of income by traditional means, there will be addicts who happen to be engineers, judges, police people, politicians, etc. To some degree those people are aware of the nature of gaming and the fact it will never get constant money out of it, otherwise, they would have quit their jobs long ago. They are looking for a jackpot to retire, maybe.
It is a completely different level of addiction to have gambling as "source of income" because it will definitely lead to commiting crimes in order to satisfy the addiction. One does not need to be jobless to be addicted, joblessness on the other hand can be a consequence of addiction.

I think you have said it yourself below that it means that gambling addiction has its own level, or what it means is that everyone who suffers from gambling addiction is different, there are some of them who find it difficult to ignore any time not to gamble such as having to always be involved in gambling every day but can still apply a little limit in terms of the amount of budget at stake, which indirectly can still make them maintain their source of income because they still don't fully assume or think that gambling is an activity that can produce.

But there are others, namely gamblers who have entered the level of chronic addiction that makes them forget all the important things in their lives, maybe one of which is leaving something that gives them certainty such as work to focus on gambling, even though it is wrong but that is what is likely to happen when you have entered the chronic addiction phase.

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This very basic. You can't help a beginner person avoid becoming addicted to gambling if they can't even help themselves avoid gambling. Personal desire and discipline are important for a person to avoid gambling addiction. Eventhough many of us can offer support or help the decision and action must come from the person themselves. (Another topic about gambling addiction 😕) I'm having difficulties to understand OP that's why I only answered the title thread. lol

This is very basic: you can't.

I mean, if somebody really want to gamble they'll find a way
if they can't control their urges they'd get addicted
only way would be casinos limiting user time but this goes completely against their incentives so it's not happening.

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June 12, 2024, 05:18:25 PM
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The only way a beginner doesn't get addicted to gambling it's when it isn't viewed as a source of income.Most gamblers depends on gambling as a source of income and they get addicted to it because they think it's a place to make profit.Casino sites are there to run their business and not to educate people who are old enough to make decisions for themselves.Gambling sites won't loss if they enlighten beginners not to get addicted to gambling because they feel everyone has their own decision and choice to make.
If a beginner can have good control when they playing gambling and not trying to winning the games, they will not gets addicted to gambling. They will aware that they should limits themselves in gambling so they don't have to lose much money but it is difficult to gets away from the tempts of gambling.
That is why they must not use gambling too often and always limits their money when they playing gambling and follows their rules to avoids the problems. No one knows if they will gets tempts or can stay awake when playing gambling because the tempts can comes to them without they realizes.
A beginner must learn many things to protect themselves from the addiction and it also needs practice without stops. They will have a chance to enjoy playing gambling even if they use some money.

All control or self-control in gambling always depends on what exactly they are looking for or what they want in gambling, if for example they are not more than just looking for entertainment to fill their spare time then obviously I think they will be able to easily control and control themselves and also I think they will not easily fall into various temptations that they find, for them it is not something tempting because the idea of “tempting” will only happen or allow it to be felt by someone who has the intention and purpose of making money or winning.

In gambling everyone has the same chances of winning and possible risks, meaning that the problem of temptation that comes will certainly always be there, but most of those who feel the temptation are those gamblers who have the intention of earning from the beginning so as we know that gamblers who are addicted often make various crazy decisions that tend to be aggressive, This means that about what actions are likely to be taken by a gambler as well as whether they can control themselves or not depends on how their goals actually come to gambling and also what understanding they have about gambling, meaning that if it turns out that their understanding is wrong then of course their goals must also be wrong and this is what makes someone addicted who is initially too tempted and finally makes various aggressive or impulsive decisions.

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With the rate of online gambling now do you think anyone will come to seek for advise before venturing into gambling? Of course No! When an online casino registration is very simple nobody knows if the next person is gambling or not so they don't even share experience in order for others to learn and as a result of this gambling addict is born to spread. One thing know is no matter what is used in writing the gambling rules and gamble responsibly you will still find people not listening because it's in their nature to ignore the rules and chase the imaginary profits which they end up losing all their money.

So practically nobody would seem advise even though they might be facing alot yet they will find it convincing not to ask.
of course no one will  ask for advise but what I am saying this is at least they must consider having good advises to never fall for addiction.

At some point, we can find people who are will to take advise but this kind of people are always very few because addiction always brings some sense of correctness in ones life, which means they do not see things as bad especially their bad habits (gambling addiction) so for them to consider advises it will only have to be the person in question have some level of consciousness in them for taking responsibility of their actions. Hence gambling addicts are not always easy to advise.

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This very basic. You can't help a beginner person avoid becoming addicted to gambling if they can't even help themselves avoid gambling. Personal desire and discipline are important for a person to avoid gambling addiction. Eventhough many of us can offer support or help the decision and action must come from the person themselves. (Another topic about gambling addiction 😕) I'm having difficulties to understand OP that's why I only answered the title thread. lol

This is very basic: you can't.

I mean, if somebody really want to gamble they'll find a way
if they can't control their urges they'd get addicted
only way would be casinos limiting user time but this goes completely against their incentives so it's not happening.
Yes, no matter how hard you would really be trying out to make some explaination about gambling addiction and other potential things that could happen to them but still it wont really be that enough on stopping them on playing. Why? Just like on what you have said that as long those gambling intent and interest will really be still having into their minds, they would really be continuing to play no matter what and there's nothing we can do about it because people do usually stop at the moment that they cant literally be able to play just because they dont already have the money for them to do so. This is why it would really be better that you should really be minding with your own business and let those people do play all they want. They do have that common sense and intellect for them to distinguish if they had already involved or spend up too much towards gambling.

On the moment that someone is really that starting on playing gambling then this is really that indeed the time or moment on which you are really that still a noob where emotions and those urges
is really that at peak, then it would really be that so hard for you to completely stop midway not until you would be busting it all.

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