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May 02, 2018, 08:25:39 AM
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^^^ That's aether drift, it correlates with sidereal time and most likely drives the projection of all the celestial objects. This drift was measured by the M&M experiment but the effect was many magnitudes smaller in size than the predicted effect the experimenters were expecting if the Earth was in motion. The aether drift also explains the many experiments that detect the so-called Coriolis effect.

My empirical proofs that the Earth is not in motion stand firm.

The three experiments you claim as "my empirical proofs that the Earth is not in motion" were all experiments done to try and prove the presence of a substance that would explain how light (using wave theory) could travel in a vacuum, a substance they named aether. This substance was not proven to exist from these experiments and is still yet to be proven to exist.

The fact that you believe that aether exists slants your view to the findings of these experiments, but we've already had the subjectivity discussion about these experiments before.
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May 02, 2018, 08:30:55 AM
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^^^ The Sagnac Effect exploits the aether to produce its effect and is empirical proof thereof.
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May 02, 2018, 09:34:51 AM
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^^^ The Sagnac Effect exploits the properties of light in the Earth's atmosphere to produce its effect and is empirical proof that the Earth rotates.

There you go, I removed all subjectivity from your reply to allow others to gain insightful knowledge based on reproducible experimentation that forms the ground work for the field known as Science.

You're most welcome.  Grin
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^^^ Clown.

The Sagnac Experiment was designed by Sagnac in 1913 for the specific purpose of detecting the aether and was successful in doing so. The result being the Sagnac Effect and empirical proof of the aether.
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^^^ Clown.

The Sagnac Experiment was designed by Sagnac in 1913 for the specific purpose of detecting the aether and was successful in doing so. The result being the Sagnac Effect and empirical proof of the aether.

I know you won't read it notnatman, but for the sake of others who might be slipping into a like mindset, here's some interesting reading: https://briankoberlein.com/2015/08/11/does-the-aether-exist-hint-no/
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^^^ Clown.

The Sagnac Experiment was designed by Sagnac in 1913 for the specific purpose of detecting the aether and was successful in doing so. The result being the Sagnac Effect and empirical proof of the aether.

I know you won't read it notnatman, but for the sake of others who might be slipping into a like mindset, here's some interesting reading: https://briankoberlein.com/2015/08/11/does-the-aether-exist-hint-no/

This article states that the Sagnac experiment proves the aether "A shift in the interference pattern is exactly what the aether model predicts." A direct quote that contradicts the title of the article proves it's misleading and intellectually dishonest.

It then tries to whitewash the result by claiming it didn't disprove relativity because it (relativity) doesn't apply to rotating systems. Dufour and Prunier totally blow this argument out of the water by proving the results are in fact not consistent with relativity:

"Challenging Modern Physics: Questioning Einstein's Relativity Theories" -- https://books.google.ca/books?id=XVLmihZnsvUC


You've just been BTFO asshole.
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May 02, 2018, 01:00:28 PM
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Oh no... it looks like notbatman has been lying to us for nearly 600 pages. There is no wall of ice around flat earth. There is a teleportation thingy:

http://www.newsweek.com/flat-earth-pac-man-edges-907976

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The convention saw flat-Earthers, skeptics, and the flat Earth-curious gather in the city of Birmingham, U.K. At the event, conference speaker Darren Nesbit sought to address one of the most obvious problems with flat Earth claims—why people don’t just fall off the edge of the planet if they travel too far in one direction.

“We know that continuous east-west travel is a reality,” he said, according to the Telegraph. “No one has ever come to, or crossed a physical boundary.”

The best explanation isn't a curved, globe-shaped Earth, Nesbit thinks. Instead, it could be something more like teleportation. Yes, you read that right. Teleportation.

Like Pac-Man himself, who reappears on one side of the game screen having exited on the other, objects would be transported from one edge of the flat Earth to the opposite edge. Describing this as a “logical possibility” for “truly free thinkers,” Nesbit explained, “Space-time wraps around and we get a Pac-Man effect.”

See, that I can understand. "Magic" is a very good explanation for pretty much anything.

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May 02, 2018, 02:01:11 PM
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^^^ Clown.

The Sagnac Experiment was designed by Sagnac in 1913 for the specific purpose of detecting the aether and was successful in doing so. The result being the Sagnac Effect and empirical proof of the aether.

I know you won't read it notnatman, but for the sake of others who might be slipping into a like mindset, here's some interesting reading: https://briankoberlein.com/2015/08/11/does-the-aether-exist-hint-no/

This article states that the Sagnac experiment proves the aether "A shift in the interference pattern is exactly what the aether model predicts." A direct quote that contradicts the title of the article proves it's misleading and intellectually dishonest.

It then tries to whitewash the result by claiming it didn't disprove relativity because it (relativity) doesn't apply to rotating systems. Dufour and Prunier totally blow this argument out of the water by proving the result are in fact not consistent with relativity:

"Challenging Modern Physics: Questioning Einstein's Relativity Theories" -- https://books.google.ca/books?id=XVLmihZnsvUC


You've just been BTFO asshole.

It's no wonder you believe in a flat Earth, your reading comprehension is abysmal at best or blinded by your one-eyed subjectiveness at worst.

Here's a key point taken straight from the article that you conveniently ignore constantly when the Sagnac experiment is discussed:

      "...the Sagnac experiment is inconclusive, since it agrees with both the aether and relativity models."
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May 02, 2018, 02:03:46 PM
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Oh no... it looks like notbatman has been lying to us for nearly 600 pages. There is no wall of ice around flat earth. There is a teleportation thingy:

http://www.newsweek.com/flat-earth-pac-man-edges-907976

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The convention saw flat-Earthers, skeptics, and the flat Earth-curious gather in the city of Birmingham, U.K. At the event, conference speaker Darren Nesbit sought to address one of the most obvious problems with flat Earth claims—why people don’t just fall off the edge of the planet if they travel too far in one direction.

“We know that continuous east-west travel is a reality,” he said, according to the Telegraph. “No one has ever come to, or crossed a physical boundary.”

The best explanation isn't a curved, globe-shaped Earth, Nesbit thinks. Instead, it could be something more like teleportation. Yes, you read that right. Teleportation.

Like Pac-Man himself, who reappears on one side of the game screen having exited on the other, objects would be transported from one edge of the flat Earth to the opposite edge. Describing this as a “logical possibility” for “truly free thinkers,” Nesbit explained, “Space-time wraps around and we get a Pac-Man effect.”

See, that I can understand. "Magic" is a very good explanation for pretty much anything.

Hahahaha!!! Nice find.

I truly am no longer surprised by the idiotic things these people continue to come up with.
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May 02, 2018, 03:53:17 PM
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It's no wonder you believe in a flat Earth, your reading comprehension is abysmal at best or blinded by your one-eyed subjectiveness at worst.

Here's a key point taken straight from the article that you conveniently ignore constantly when the Sagnac experiment is discussed:

      "...the Sagnac experiment is inconclusive, since it agrees with both the aether and relativity models."


You are arguing facts with a lying troll.  :/

We proved the earth was a globe hundreds of years ago.  There is no debate anymore.

These type of threads just serve to feed attention to a very lonely man.

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May 03, 2018, 12:26:45 AM
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It's no wonder you believe in a flat Earth, your reading comprehension is abysmal at best or blinded by your one-eyed subjectiveness at worst.

Here's a key point taken straight from the article that you conveniently ignore constantly when the Sagnac experiment is discussed:

      "...the Sagnac experiment is inconclusive, since it agrees with both the aether and relativity models."


You are arguing facts with a lying troll.  :/

We proved the earth was a globe hundreds of years ago.  There is no debate anymore.

These type of threads just serve to feed attention to a very lonely man.

Oh I'm well aware of everything you just said but sometimes I feel the urge to debate with an idiot.

Besides that, it's quite possible someone reading this thread could get sucked into his lies, so I feel it's also important to try and add some balance.
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May 03, 2018, 12:39:53 AM
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^^^ Clown.

The Sagnac Experiment was designed by Sagnac in 1913 for the specific purpose of detecting the aether and was successful in doing so. The result being the Sagnac Effect and empirical proof of the aether.

I know you won't read it notnatman, but for the sake of others who might be slipping into a like mindset, here's some interesting reading: https://briankoberlein.com/2015/08/11/does-the-aether-exist-hint-no/

This article states that the Sagnac experiment proves the aether "A shift in the interference pattern is exactly what the aether model predicts." A direct quote that contradicts the title of the article proves it's misleading and intellectually dishonest.

It then tries to whitewash the result by claiming it didn't disprove relativity because it (relativity) doesn't apply to rotating systems. Dufour and Prunier totally blow this argument out of the water by proving the results are in fact not consistent with relativity:

"Challenging Modern Physics: Questioning Einstein's Relativity Theories" -- https://books.google.ca/books?id=XVLmihZnsvUC


You've just been BTFO asshole.

It's no wonder you believe in a flat Earth, your reading comprehension is abysmal at best or blinded by your one-eyed subjectiveness at worst.

Here's a key point taken straight from the article that you conveniently ignore constantly when the Sagnac experiment is discussed:

      "...the Sagnac experiment is inconclusive, since it agrees with both the aether and relativity models."




You've been BTFO, deal with it.






edit:

Lets see if I can clarify the intellectual dishonesty in your linked article a bit.

1. They reference the Sagnac Experiment.
2. They reference two theories:
    (a) Static Aether.
    (b) Special Relativity.
3. They note the experiment is consistent with both theory 'a' and theory 'b'.
4. They claim because the experiment is consistent with theory 'b' theory 'a' has been disproven.



Can you see what an absolute fuck head the guy who wrote that MSM style article is? Not to mention that Dufour and Prunier proved empirically that special relativity is in fact not consistent with the results, a fact the author omits entirely so can make his intellectually dishonest claims.





edit_2:

The comments in the linked article are gold.
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May 03, 2018, 08:12:22 PM
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The longest straight line you can travel without hitting hand.

Poor idiotic notbatman probably can't figure out how a straight line can curve.   Cheesy

https://gizmodo.com/this-is-the-longest-straight-path-you-could-travel-on-w-1825725532

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May 03, 2018, 09:52:26 PM
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the earth is uneven. because there is its rotation day and night
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May 05, 2018, 01:10:41 AM
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^^^ Clown.

The Sagnac Experiment was designed by Sagnac in 1913 for the specific purpose of detecting the aether and was successful in doing so. The result being the Sagnac Effect and empirical proof of the aether.

I know you won't read it notnatman, but for the sake of others who might be slipping into a like mindset, here's some interesting reading: https://briankoberlein.com/2015/08/11/does-the-aether-exist-hint-no/

This article states that the Sagnac experiment proves the aether "A shift in the interference pattern is exactly what the aether model predicts." A direct quote that contradicts the title of the article proves it's misleading and intellectually dishonest.

It then tries to whitewash the result by claiming it didn't disprove relativity because it (relativity) doesn't apply to rotating systems. Dufour and Prunier totally blow this argument out of the water by proving the results are in fact not consistent with relativity:

"Challenging Modern Physics: Questioning Einstein's Relativity Theories" -- https://books.google.ca/books?id=XVLmihZnsvUC


You've just been BTFO asshole.

It's no wonder you believe in a flat Earth, your reading comprehension is abysmal at best or blinded by your one-eyed subjectiveness at worst.

Here's a key point taken straight from the article that you conveniently ignore constantly when the Sagnac experiment is discussed:

      "...the Sagnac experiment is inconclusive, since it agrees with both the aether and relativity models."




You've been BTFO, deal with it.






edit:

Lets see if I can clarify the intellectual dishonesty in your linked article a bit.

1. They reference the Sagnac Experiment.
2. They reference two theories:
    (a) Static Aether.
    (b) Special Relativity.
3. They note the experiment is consistent with both theory 'a' and theory 'b'.
4. They claim because the experiment is consistent with theory 'b' theory 'a' has been disproven.



Can you see what an absolute fuck head the guy who wrote that MSM style article is? Not to mention that Dufour and Prunier proved empirically that special relativity is in fact not consistent with the results, a fact the author omits entirely so can make his intellectually dishonest claims.





edit_2:

The comments in the linked article are gold.

There is no need for stupid experiments that you can't perform. Just take a camera and make a timelapse of the stars, easy evidence there, look through a telescope at other planets or the moon. It is so easy to prove the earth is not flat and yet you don't want to believe it.

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May 05, 2018, 02:08:15 AM
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^^^ That's right folks, no need for stupid replicated and peer reviewed established empirical experiments that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Earth is motionless; just look at the stars circling above and pretend you're on a merry-go-round.
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^^^ That's right folks, no need for stupid replicated and peer reviewed established empirical experiments that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Earth is motionless; just look at the stars circling above and pretend you're on a merry-go-round.

If that was a peer reviewed established empirical experiment, scientists would say the earth is flat yet they don't. Imagine how idiotic the belief is considering that a lot of scientists do believe in god yet virtually all of them do not believe the earth is flat. People already showed you a few pages ago that your experiment does not prove the earth is motionless.

'' just look at the stars circling above and pretend you're on a merry-go-round.'' Better to think that the dome is rotating around us or something no?

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May 05, 2018, 12:46:56 PM
Last edit: May 05, 2018, 04:12:49 PM by notbatman
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^^^ That's right folks, no need for stupid replicated and peer reviewed established empirical experiments that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Earth is motionless; just look at the stars circling above and pretend you're on a merry-go-round.

If that was a peer reviewed established empirical experiment, scientists would say the earth is flat yet they don't. Imagine how idiotic the belief is considering that a lot of scientists do believe in god yet virtually all of them do not believe the earth is flat. People already showed you a few pages ago that your experiment does not prove the earth is motionless.

'' just look at the stars circling above and pretend you're on a merry-go-round.'' Better to think that the dome is rotating around us or something no?



1. The Michelson & Morley Experiment, Airy's Failure Experiment, The Sagnac Experiment and Dufour & Prunier's replication of the Sagnac Experiment are all peer reviewed and established empirical experiments.

2. (((Scientists))) have an agenda and no amount of proof can change that, they have to support the Jews and their lies no matter what.

3. The dome is motionless and fixed to the Earth below. The Sun, Moon and stars are holographic projections off of its mirrored surface, this is how they're in motion.
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May 05, 2018, 02:11:25 PM
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^^^ That's right folks, no need for stupid replicated and peer reviewed established empirical experiments that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Earth is motionless; just look at the stars circling above and pretend you're on a merry-go-round.

If that was a peer reviewed established empirical experiment, scientists would say the earth is flat yet they don't. Imagine how idiotic the belief is considering that a lot of scientists do believe in god yet virtually all of them do not believe the earth is flat. People already showed you a few pages ago that your experiment does not prove the earth is motionless.

'' just look at the stars circling above and pretend you're on a merry-go-round.'' Better to think that the dome is rotating around us or something no?

I'm still scratching my head on why the stars....sorry, I mean projected holograms....circle in the opposite direction for us people in the Southern Hemisphere (or is that Hemiflat???). What kind of magic is that?!?!  Wink
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May 05, 2018, 02:44:19 PM
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How's possible this shit is still going? Huh

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